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On November 05 2014 10:56 Elvis! wrote: This is a trolly post. How is this alignment indicative. Why are you being so weird. Maybe we'll lynch this guy? It is alignment indicative. He's drawing attention to his reasoning; it says that Serejai wants people to read why he thinks Immaterial is scum. | ||
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On November 05 2014 11:01 Fecalfeast wrote: Oooh, ooh, is this like one of those guess-your-weight things? How old am I? I'd have to RNG that one. 33? Ok I lied - I just guessed. | ||
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On November 05 2014 09:21 Elvis! wrote: Please people give me reasons based on LS posts before his claim why you believed his claim / are defending him etc. . Obviously his claim was right, but that wasn't even remotely understandable at that point. We really need to sort out this chaos, I think talking about why people believed LS is a good start. The reason I am "defending" LS right now is because you specifically asked us to say why we defended him/ believed his claim. On November 05 2014 12:36 Elvis! wrote: Why am I asking why he's defending? Since this guy flipped town now everyone is sheeping everything he has ever done. I don't get this at all. About LS: Please, someone be reasonable and actually post stuff he made that wasn't null or scum. Please, someone be reasonable and actually post more information on why he couldn't have just fakeclaimed. At this point the only reason I see is that he might come in a weird situation in lylo if all our powerroles play well and a lot of stuff happens that isn't forced to happen. Imagine this: He would have been scum, faceclaimed, we would have lynched someone else, everyone would have sheeped him like they did and how they are now (why wouldn't they), scum would, since town is reacting in this way, basically have a confirmed townie among their lines. Even if people wouldn't have sheeped him as much as they are now this would be a desaster for town and really good for scum. Why are scenarios like this less possible than the other ones. I'm not convinced at all about all the things people are saying about LS. People kept pointing out all his mistakes and scummy posts before and now he's suddenly considered a god amongst people. I only see a lot of people that could be scum earn town cred right nowfor sheeping him and talking about how he was town, why we shouldn't have voted for him and so on. No risk, easy town points for our opponents. I don't have a good feeling about this. I gave my reasoning for why I felt LS was more likely town in response to your post. Now you are accusing me of trying to gain town cred for town reading him? Or am I misreading this? | ||
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On November 05 2014 12:59 Elvis! wrote: @Grack I'm accusing all the people who defended him after his death of wanting easy towncred. I know that you were one of the people who believed him beforehand. As I stated I don't think your reasoning you had is valid at all, since his actions have never been townie or helped town in any way, since he never put much effort into them, making a lot of 3-4 liners is not difficult, doesn't show someone being active or trying. So I'm accusing you less of defending him now (still a bit since you stick to your read and defended a bit more) and more of defending him in the first place. His play didn't warrant him being rated anything better than null That's fair enough. I'm aware of why he was scum read - his posts weren't very good and he parroted other people's ideas. I focused more into the motivations behind his posts and I also factored into account what I thought about the person making the posts. (I had less expectations for his posts than I do for Breshke's posts. Breshke made some good posts today that actually analyzed whether something was townie or scummy) I think it's completely reasonable for you to not understand how I got that town read because from your perspective none of his posts are townie. There's not much I can really say besides we have different views. I feel mafia are perfectly capable of making good posts day1, and I wouldn't town read people for any of the things that were used to form the 'town circle' from earlier today. | ||
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On November 05 2014 13:13 Fecalfeast wrote: From what everyone says, kush is really bad at playing scum and usually slips up early. He has been inactive mostly but I have no real read on him. I am just about to leave for home. If I remember I'll dive his filter when I am home. Kush is quite bad at playing scum. He used to only be capable of bussing as scum, so if all of Kush's reads were correct you could tell that he had too much information. | ||
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(this is an awesome place to go to if you want to study past games of a player in your game!) http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/390080-tl-mafia-database kushykushkushPerson was signed in when posted 09-22-2013 02:22 AM ET (US) here is a gift i am going to give to all of you. The gift of a 100% easy and correct way of reading my alignment. I cannot read town filters as scum. I just tried and it's impossible. Too boring! But I do it as my primary scumhunting method as town. kushykushkushPerson was signed in when posted 09-21-2013 09:57 AM ET (US) please bus me i want my life to end kushykushkushPerson was signed in when posted 09-21-2013 09:38 AM ET (US) im so sad i got scum. everyone has permission to bus the shit out of me kushykushkushPerson was signed in when posted 09-20-2013 10:58 PM ET (US) nah im trash scum and i will bus all of you in the most obvious manner | ||
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If it's doc/cop then mafia don't need to lynch LS they can just RB him. | ||
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On November 05 2014 13:51 Elvis! wrote: @Grack read stuff about his lies on my filter (page 1-3) and look at his filter. It's not difficult to see where he contradicted himself and lied. This is probably the last I'll talk about this unless you really want to keep discussing it. On November 04 2014 07:34 Elvis! wrote: Talking about this Lightning guy. So he begins with a vote on superbia. ... I don't even... Like how can you vote someone without giving reasoning. Ok, he later on gives reasoning after being asked multiple times, as he says "I have read chelsea's posts (and I wanna look town so I agree with the guy who people think is townie)" Then he's like, "wait a second, chelsea pulled his vote back. Time to pull mine back as well so I fit in again and don't look suspicious. Being mafai is so easy". Then he sees people going on about Immortal. Now guess what happens next. He calls someone fishy without reasoning what exactly is meant, why it is fishy, why that appears scummy or anything of importance. Generally, I am yet to see him post his own opinion that isn't basically copy-pasted from someone (especially chelsea), rephrased or wishy-washy (referring to his recent post on Immortal being "fishy"). I am yet to see his posts exceed 4 lines, and even those 4 lines don't ever have content. He just rephrases stuff and basically reposts others, and I'm yet to see anything productive from him. He doesn't even remotely try hunting scum For now, if he doesn't drastically change his playstyle or someone more definitive arrises, I view him as a mafia lurker. ##Vote LightningStrike . This isn't LS lying, this is just your narrative of his play: "I have read chelsea's posts (and I wanna look town so I agree with the guy who people think is townie)" Then he's like, "wait a second, chelsea pulled his vote back. Time to pull mine back as well so I fit in again and don't look suspicious. Being mafai is so easy". Another narrative (and the correct one, mind you) is that LS didn't have a strong idea of how to scum hunt, so his reads were strongly influenced by what other people were saying in thread. He saw reasoning from someone he thought was townie so he voted Superbia, then people started arguing that it was a bad vote and he was influenced by that reasoning as well so he unvoted Superbia. I thought my explanation for his play fit a bit better because he didn't seem too nervous about doing it. He came back to the thread and kept making similar posts despite people calling him out for copying other people's thoughts. It took me a remarkably long time to figure out what was going on in that other post of his that you quoted accusing him of lying. But it was essentially just an expansion of this On November 04 2014 23:20 LightningStrike wrote: I just woke up and saw Elvis thinking I am a scum when he already switched his views a lot so his vote should be taken with a grain of salt on that part but however I do agree his posts were mainly suspicious because of him defending Superbia with mostly saying just wait till Superbia post and after Superbia made a post Elvis tried to stear all the attention away from Superbia and placed it on me and Sentinel which kind of screams Scum due to Sentinel is a townie and although my post are kind of bad but I am a Townie. ##unvote ##vote Elvis He's not lying about anything he's just not using very good reasoning. He feels sentinel is town and knows that he is town. He's arguing that you are scum because you weren't suspicious of Superbia and then you tried to shift attention off of Superbia on to him/sentinel. There's no lie in that - it's just not a very good reason to suspect you. | ||
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I was pressuring Elvis a lot yesterday but I don't think he's scum anymore. Superbia/sentinel are both possibilities Try to look at KSCs play as a whole rather than just the fake claim -I'm pretty sure town fake counter claims more often than scum. Batsnacks vote doesn't matter too much to me. It's not strange reasoning from Serajai but he could have easily not changed votes at all. | ||
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On November 23 2014 07:01 Blazinghand wrote: Driving right now will post more thoughts in about an hour Could this be a repeat of British empire 2? On April 20 2014 06:20 Blazinghand wrote: Ok ok so some stuff came up. Let's say end of April. It'll happen I promise. I know it has been a year and a month since the end of this game, but THE END GAME WRITEUP WILL HAPPEN. | ||
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