EPTElvis do you have no reads from the rest of the game even leaning town or scum?
Immaterial could you explain to me why you think what superbia did makes him mafia?
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Elvis do you have no reads from the rest of the game even leaning town or scum? Immaterial could you explain to me why you think what superbia did makes him mafia? | ||
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On November 03 2014 12:35 Immaterial wrote: I didn't say that I have no idea why -- I said I didn't "fully understand" the tunneling business. I had already searched and found an article on that mafia wiki site, but I still didn't completely understand what he meant by that in the given context. My interpretation of tunneling is that he would just select on person he's convinced is mafia and target them relentlessly (tunnel vision). I don't know if that's the correct interpretation, but my honest read on it was that Superbia's approach in those posts was strange. My vote was based on that combined with some other people's posts. Who's posts, which ones try quote them if you can. What do you think about them because of these posts? | ||
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I don't like that this post makes it seem like you arn't in the mindset to try and find peoples alignments from their posts and need someone to specifically point stuff out to you. This isn't what i remember you being like last game. | ||
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Kelsier im especially interested to hear what you think about Elvis. | ||
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I'm intrested to see what Elvis brings to the thread but sadly i think i will be asleep for it. Also i'm hesitant to call Immaterial or lightning stirke mafia as i can see them being new town and trying to enter the thread on a read they are sheeping as im fairly sure this is something i did in my first game but dont get me wrong im not giving them a pass. Currently i am happy where my vote is even though i like how elvis has reacted so far. Which bits of bats gameplay make you think he is town? Right now i have you as my top town because all throughout the thread, other than your ff read which i still disagree with you on, you have posted stuff that ive been wanting to psot in other words same thought process. Also reading sentinel and grack as lean town. | ||
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On November 03 2014 20:51 KelsierSC wrote: I want to talk about Grak Last game I played with him he was really jokey and happy at the start and he brought up some good reasons why other people were town and most people just town read him straight away. At the beginning of this game he does have some fun with his grak trap business etc. I like the way he tried to analyse kush, he asked people to talk about him and then brought his own read to the table which again feels town. He has done some things I don't like though. I don't see why he is so eager to really go and hard defend super. I don't really think I have seen grak do that before. Also this kind of thing bugs me Pointing out something is "strange" but then not following it up at all. So is imma mafia or what? Why do you put strange in quotations here. You obviously agree that immaterial isn't giving towny vibes but i do agree that he hasn't followed it up but i feel like he hasn't really been around to do so. Also i like your case on immaterial but as a newbie scum do you think his only actions in the thread would be to first fos someone and then vote someone out of nowhere. I feel like this is far too aggro for someone who's main goal is to blend in and not be lynched. I think the way Elvis entered the thread, much more passively saying he couldn't get read and what not, is far more mafia indicative. | ||
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I like parts of your recent posts but jsut remember you shouldn't be afraid to post gut feelings as town as its a good insidght to your latter thought processes. Not writing that stuff just makes me feel like you have something to hide. Like i still have a gut feeling you aren't town but two of my biggest town reads disagree so ill drop it for now | ||
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I agree the pressure on serajai was good because yeah roleplaying is fine but the entire 3 seats thing and there's 3 mafia i don't know maybe im looking too much into it. I just don't think that is the most worthwhile thing as town that he could have posted but I guess it doesn't helphim as mafia either. I also agree with grack, i fully expected kush to be trying to lead a day one lynch because of his pregame list "i am the greatest" thing. | ||
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I don't really know where to go from here but the people i would be willing to lynch today are cricketer, kush, lightning strike serajai. I am also lean scum on elvis fecal and immaterial. It worry's me that i basically just want to lynch the more lurky players because there is for sure a mafia outside of these. | ||
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On November 04 2014 10:40 Serejai wrote: Fecal seems like someone who just went into mafia chat with Elvis and they just decided to start shifting the focus to a new townie after they realized it wasn't working on Superbia. What about fecals vote on elvis. if you think they are partners what do you think was going on there. | ||
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On November 04 2014 09:00 Fecalfeast wrote: Kush is in my townreads because the more I look at his opening (asking scum to surrender because he thought we had an OP town setup) in combination with his lack of tolerance for bullshit (the serejai post) the more I think he's coming from a town mindset. Yeah he's got a total of 8 posts since game start but in those 8 posts he has questioned super's tunneling post, sentinel's RNG manipulation post, "figured out" how to win as town(I can't read either) ANd called out the serejai post. Again, all looks like it's coming from a town PoV So i have been thinking about this and i don't actually think this is a good enough reason to read kush as town. On November 03 2014 07:22 kushm4sta wrote: do you usually have strong feelings about who to lynch d1? I agree this post is towny but what do you think kush got from it. In part it isn't his fault because superbia never answerd but neither did he push to get an answer. The next two posts are about sentinels host based wifom as people are calling it and this isnt town either. He isn't hunting scum just explaining mechanics. Next three posts are him misreading the setup. Yes this could be considered townie because he thought we had autowin and obviously wouldn't point this out as scum. What has he done after this though?The answer is nothing no scum hunting just one post telling serajai to give reads which he could easily do as scum to make a newbie town look bad. He hasn't even posted any reads himself either. So please explain ff and anyone else reading kush as town. | ||
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Reasons why i think kush isn't town are in my last post. On November 04 2014 00:37 Superbia wrote: Ha! You have all underestimated Superbia's Digging Company! The play is pretty straightforward. Experienced town is never going to take the contract for these reasons: - If I'm town, I'll be wasting my time tunneling on a townie (from their perspective) - If I'm mafia, I'll have a great excuse to go hard on them all day. Scum, however, is more likely to take the contract for the following reasons: - WIFOM - I'm not afraid of being watched, I swear! - Easy fallback on "Wow I can't believe you actually tunneled me, you're dumb as shit" Since Sentinel is an experienced player (apparently), I'm pretty sure he's mafai here. Him following the badsnacks pressure train (and FF/kelsier's push) on me doesn't help. Why agree and then go against it? ##Vote: [UoN]Sentinel I disagree with you here. First of all a town tunneling on a town isn't a waste of time. People can get reads from not only on the two people involved but also from other peoples reactions to said tunnel. This would be the same case if you were mafia and sentinel was town. So in the world where sentinel is town and especially if he is an experienced player i think it is totally fair enough for him to volunteer to be tunneled as it would be a great way to get reads. Lets look now from the perspective if sentinel is mafia. What does he have to gain volunteering to be tunneled on by a player who seemed confident at the time. This would just bring unwanted attention to himself when it would have been easy for him to sit back and just not react to that post at all as it wasn't directed at him. There is also the world where sentinel and superbia are both mafia but i doubt they have an interaction like this so early if that is the case. I also find it hard to believe that you were actually laying a trap with that post and still think you were just making it up as you go along. I do like your other reads though although you feel a lot less passionate than other games i have played with you but i think that is just when i compare your activity this game to other games. | ||
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