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On October 28 2014 12:15 Damdred wrote: Slam teach me your ways You called him [r]Slam[/r]. Slam is a warrior move. The Warrior is Garrosh. Garrosh is on the [r]Horde[/r]. Confirmed Alakaslam and Damded are scum. 100% chance. Easy game. | ||
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On October 29 2014 10:33 GlowingBear wrote: Who are these guys that I never saw before but seems to have experience in mafia? I played the summer before last, if you're talking about me. | ||
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On October 29 2014 14:11 Alakaslam wrote: /confirm? I had to do this in thread too? PM said to do it in thread, there were no instructions to reply to the PM. | ||
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This seems like normal day one starts: random unfounded accusations (which happen by both town and mafia), people being funny and playing around. Nothig suspicious to me yet. | ||
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For giving my opinion on a regular day one start? Okay. | ||
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On October 31 2014 11:40 liancourt wrote: Caps lock and vulcan mind melds!!! Can i be spock and get my 3 win streak woohoo! >vulcan mind melds I don't get this reference. What mind melds are you talking about? | ||
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On October 31 2014 11:45 liancourt wrote: Star trek I meant, what in the thread made you think mind melds? | ||
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On October 31 2014 11:48 Damdred wrote: I won't pretend to answer for loan but.. I mentioned it earloer Oh, woops, I missed that. Sorry. | ||
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On October 31 2014 11:54 GlowingBear wrote: Ok people. I'm not kidding when I say I don't like this post. Mafia have a hard time to insert themselves into the game. Their posts, usually, show struggle to make a good entrance. In this post, this guy says the obvious and nothing more. If there is nothing suspicious and he is not willing to joke/engage into a conversation, why even bother posting? Also, saying he didn't play in a year sounds like someone trying to downgrade their play so he gets a free pass when looking suspicious. I'm just telling the truth. My last game was in 2013. It's on TL, you can look it up. And I'm not shying away here. I'm engaging with the thread. I don't want a free pass here. Scrutinize my play to the same standards as everyone else. | ||
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On October 31 2014 11:58 Damdred wrote: You beat me to it GB dang shower. He also is somewhat lacking a sense of humor and apologizes for no reason. @lian shhhhh they shouldn't notice if we play along So I'm scum for playing the game seriously instead of posting videos of jarraxxus and pictures of ham? Your logic is impeccable here. | ||
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On October 31 2014 12:01 Circumstance wrote: First game on TL, using TL's systems, thank God I'm town, makes things a lot easier. (Question: If someone votes in the separate thread, is that vote binding for the day?) No, you can unvote and vote for someone else. | ||
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On October 31 2014 12:03 liancourt wrote: Opening posts saying to go slowly really? Unfounfed accusation are what makes mafia and then you find out they were true and u pat urself on ur back saying imma flippin a genius! I wasn't telling other people to go slowly, I was saying I was taking things slowly. Jumping to conclusions at the start of day 1 isn't necessarily scummy, but it doesn't necessarily help either. | ||
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On October 31 2014 12:03 Lord Tolkien wrote: Alright. Holyflare=Starts with an H Hunter=Starts with an H ergo, Holyflare is a Hunter. And I presume my confirm went through only because Hunters were to be labeled scum so... #Vote Holyflare So you just make a joke vote and slide out of the thread? Come on, stick in here. Join the conversation. | ||
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On October 31 2014 12:19 liancourt wrote: I dont get these hearthstone references sea giants? Hunters? Hunter is a Horde class, so presumably scum. Sea Giants are a card primarily used by bots, which every one hates, so presumably scum. They're just jokes based upon the game's flavor. | ||
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On October 31 2014 12:27 Circumstance wrote: Because I've never heard of the phrase "null tell" before. I can logic out its meaning, but I was using misread in a more general sense, not specifically stating a belief that the opposite of your assumption was true. I looked at your post count, and was about to say "Bullshit, you've played mafia here before!" But then I looked though your posts, and it looks like you might be telling the truth. | ||
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He's not jumping to conclusions, and he's making logical arguments. | ||
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No, I have a null read on you. I think you getting analysed would give more information about other players than anyone else getting analysed. | ||
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On October 31 2014 13:33 ritoky wrote: so do you know what analyzing does? and how do you know it will be beneficial? cuz i sure as shit dunno what it means. Due to the word, analyse, it should give some clue as to what character they are from heartchstone, which should give a clue to their alignment. | ||
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On October 31 2014 13:38 Misder wrote: Do you think, given your role, that the character a person is from HS correlates to his/her alignment? I'd think that given the setup. I'm not going to talk about my role. | ||
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On October 31 2014 13:38 Misder wrote: Do you think, given your role, that the character a person is from HS correlates to his/her alignment? Also, I find this question scummy. The purpose I see behind it is to fish for the best people to night kill. I'm not going to bleed info. | ||
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On October 31 2014 13:42 ritoky wrote: If you're so certain that is what it does, then why wouldn't you volunteer yourself so that you are confirmed town for everyone? You do realize the it's kel'thuzad's cat, and in warcraft mythos kel'thuzad is an evil lich...so ummmmmm... When you face kel'thuzad in HS, the cat is on your side. And I imagine it won't only give information about the alignment, and I bet that the information will be quite a bit of a riddle. I wouldn't be terribly opposed to people analysing me. But I don't think that it would be useful. | ||
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On October 31 2014 13:46 jaybrundage wrote: It stated in the Set up that this is not the case. A character does not relate to (Mafia) alignment. I do find it weird that in the text from Mr.Bigglesworth that he mentions finding the Horde > It stated in the Set up that this is not the case. A character does not relate to (Mafia) alignment. Woops, my eyes must have glossed over this. Thanks for correcting me. | ||
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On October 31 2014 13:58 GlowingBear wrote: Tell me the town motivation behind coming to the thread, summarizing a thread 2 pages long, downgrading his gameplay and bringing nothing contributive. It isn't even a conversation starter. Obviously it was, or we wouldn't be having this conversation right now. Logic'd. | ||
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On October 31 2014 14:09 ritoky wrote: i think we should use it on seuss of risk.nuke as of now. if it's good, then we get info on non-posters thus far. if it's bad, then it goes on someone who hasn't posted. This seems sensible to me. | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + On October 31 2014 12:35 Lord Tolkien wrote: lies, LIES I've seen mafia wifom this shit d1 yo, esp since this is weaker than a wisp The rest has been a waste of keystrokes. If the day ended right now, I wouldn't mind it if he were lynched. | ||
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##Vote: Lord Tolkien | ||
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On October 31 2014 19:37 risk.nuke wrote: So have anyone heard of just saying, 'I want to analyze this player'. And then not immediately locking your analyze vote. The Cat feel super much like third party. And hi. That's what I did. Also, I agree, the cat does seems to be like a third party ability or something. And hi. | ||
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On November 01 2014 04:36 VisceraEyes wrote: Here kitty kitty...what does "Analyze" do, hmmmmm? He told us: On November 01 2014 00:02 Mr. Bigglesworth wrote: To clarify things: I am a player from outside the game. I was summoned by a townie who I must keep in secret. I'll analyse a player as any player would. This means I will read the thread, focus on that player's posts, and say what I think about him, i.e., make a case. Talking about me will lead nowhere. I am town aligned but I'm not a killable player. Which means you will gain nothing trying to know who I am or if I am town, mafia or 3rd party, for I'm none. This is my last post until the first analysis. Meow. | ||
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GlowingBear: Suess (1) Circumstance: Misder (1) Oatsmaster: Circumstance (1) JayBrundage: Alakaslam (1) If either GB or Jay get more anaylse votes, I'll jump on them. | ||
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##Analyse: jaybrundage He's got 3 votes now. | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + Yeah the pun, but I'm also serious. | ||
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On November 01 2014 09:08 Blazinghand wrote: The Post count for my RNG declaration post was 23206369 23206369 mod 17 = 9 9th player is glowingbear ##vote GlowingBEAR GB, your lynch has been determined by RNG. SUBMIT YOURSELF UNTO DEATH. I don't even know how you find the post count of a post. As far as I can tell, you're pullig numbers out of your ass. | ||
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On November 01 2014 09:23 Blazinghand wrote: This is a fair question. The fact of the matter is, every rng lynch discussion that doesn't roll the dice goes like this. People basically vaguely talk about how rng is not great, or talk about stats about historical rng, or whatever. Nobody gets invested, nobody cares, nobody gives away reads, nobody is under pressure, and nobody gets lynched. Take a look at the low tier policy talk in ANY game. What makes me, and my RNG, different, is that it selects a target before people discuss whether it's good or not. Now scum are on the line. Now they suddenly feel a need to justify or NOT justify voting for or not voting for GB, who is probably their scumbuddy. They're in a tough spot and it absolutely wrecks scumteams. I'm different than most people, jrkirby. Most people don't policy. Most people don't have the rock-hard, cast-iron BALLS to push policy like I do. Policy isn't REAL unless you're willing to go balls to the wall to lynch your policy target. And by jove, I WILL lynch GB, just as I've lynched so many others with the power of RNG. It is inevitable. I guess this is fair enough to me. I have a slight town-lean read on GB, but I think RNG can be very powerful day 1. If anyone trys RNG after day one, I will want to lynch you though. So I'm going to drop my slight town read on GB and my vote on the unproductive LT in favor of the power of RNG. This is a hearthstone flavored game here. Just so everyone knows, this is a vote for RNG, not for GB in particular. BY FIRE BE PURGED. + Show Spoiler + Cause Ragnaros has a random target, yeah? ##Unvote: Lord Tolkein ##Vote: GlowingBear | ||
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On November 01 2014 09:35 Alakaslam wrote: Except hitting scum more than day1 analysts This is why I'm following the RNG. Sure it might disagree with my reads, but what real use are day 1 reads anyway? They've been shown historically to almost never lynch scum. | ||
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http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/390080-tl-mafia-database?page=10#185 > The day one lynch percentage is still slightly below random, but not if you exclude newbie games. And I guess this isn't a newbie game. So perhaps I was wrong. | ||
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On November 01 2014 10:26 ritoky wrote: what strikes me as odd is that wasn't it circ who came in to hard defend jrkirby early on when he was being pressured? then once again jrkirby starts to take interest in a gb lynch and now circ is suddenly around and interested? there's something funky goin on between these two. No. GB lynch was not what I was interested in. Random lynch was. But after searching for the source on why RNG lynch is good, I'm actually rethinking whether it's a good idea. I'm going to put my vote back on LT so hopefully he becomes more serious and actually plays the game in a useful way. Or gets lynched as scum. ##Unvote: GlowingBear Vote: Lord Tolkein | ||
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On November 01 2014 10:31 GlowingBear wrote: Ritoky, Kirby thought I was suspicious because I quickly jumped into conclusions, and that circumstance was town because he was thinking logically and wasn't jumping into conclusions. Now he thinks I'm town mean but he is okay with RNGing me? When did I get townie to his eyes? But this is unflipped association. Not good yet. I just don't think he would instantly call his scum partner town that early. But his is WIFOM. I never called you suspicious or scummy. I just thought the conclusions you jumped to were unfounded. Townies make unfounded conclusions all the time. | ||
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On November 01 2014 12:43 liancourt wrote: really? ur going to vote RNG, the person who has been driving convo along? For real? For some reason I recalled reading that RNG had a better chance or lynching scum day 1 than the average game. When challenged to find a source for this, I found something that said it's true, but only for newbie games. Check my filter for the link. I changed my opinion on RNG after that. | ||
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On November 01 2014 09:35 Alakaslam wrote: Except hitting scum more than day1 analysts He says that RNG is better than town at lynching scum d1. I thought I'd read this elsewhere, so I immediately took it at face value. After looking for my original source, and getting something that contradicted it, I looked in further to what Alakaslam said about RNG in previous games. I found this from a couple months ago: On July 11 2014 11:27 Alakaslam wrote: Actually RNG has a higher chance of hitting scum than TL's recent met- (Looks at recent game scum d1 lynch statistics) Foget RNG what we gonna do He knows RNG is not the best option. He's looked it up before. But he's pushing it anyway? And making claims about it that are false? My scum-sense is on tingling. And since LT has posted good content now, this is a perfect time to move my vote over to him. ##Unvote: Lord Tolkein ##Vote: Alakaslam Also, the way that he pushed the jay analysis is kinda weird. But that might just be how he plays. | ||
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On November 01 2014 21:26 Alakaslam wrote: There is no tongue-in-cheek Ok Slam. So if I was a dumb idiot and that post I quoted was sarcasm, then back it up. What's your evidence that RNG is more likely to hit scum than day 1 non-RNG lynch? I'll happily follow any strategy that has the best chance of hitting scum. Give me evidence that RNG is the best, and I'll resume that strategy. Also, if you believe in RNG, why the hell isn't your vote on GlowingBear. Just saying "Oh, it was all a joke" isn't going to cut it. You need to back up your claims on one side or the other. | ||
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On November 02 2014 00:01 Seuss wrote: I just realized jrkirby is casing Alakaslam because of a misunderstood joke. /boggle Am I a complete buffoon here? What is alakaslam's real opinion on RNG? | ||
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On November 02 2014 01:17 Alakaslam wrote: You still don't get it. However, Kita once came into the thread and pointed out that one time he claimed this it was actually untrue; town had done exceptionally well for d1 analysis for a bit and beat RNG entirely. So, since it landed on GlowingBear (lol) then I think levity is an understandable response. However GB's response wasn't the best XD Anyway, you somehow think I honestly advocated what I did not follow up with my vote or push with any sort of strength. In fact all I have pushed for at this point You must not know BH. BH has no qualms with making blatantly false claims to line up with his policies. Notice I did not vote GlowingBear despite  BlazingHand Many times it has been claimed by He That Is Great that RNG is better than analysis day 1. However, Kita once came into the thread and pointed out that one time he claimed this it was actually untrue; town had done exceptionally well for d1 analysis for a bit and beat RNG entirely. So, since it landed on GlowingBear (lol) then I think levity is an understandable response. However GB's response wasn't the best XD Anyway, you somehow think I honestly advocated what I did not follow up with my vote or push with any sort of strength. In fact all I have pushed for at this point really is JayBrundage analyze by the cat, And I have even joked about that. (Puts on a bowler hat And gets in a Cadillac) Well I guess either I suck at reading or slam sucks at posting. Maybe both. Anyway, ##Unvote: Alakaslam ##Vote: Misder | ||
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On November 02 2014 02:11 GlowingBear wrote: Why are you ignoring the ongoing discussion? Sorry I was getting caught up a page. Alakaslam warranted a response. | ||
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On November 02 2014 02:21 Damdred wrote: I'll take bad town, not any different from most of the thread. And look at jrkirby he once again changed vote when it wasn't going in the way that he wanted I changed vote when I realized I was completely misreading what alakaslam meant. | ||
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It just doesn't smell like a towny BH. | ||
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To me, damdred reads like bad town, cracking under pressure. You shouldn't care that he claims blue though, because it looks like all the reds are going to have random powers too. But overall, it doesn't read like scum, more like clueless town to me. + Show Spoiler [Crazy Theory, not important] + Although I did for a second entertain a crazy theory - GlowingBear and Damdred are scumbuddies. GB pushes the Damd lynch day one, if it flips mafia he gets an easy rest of game. He's been on Damd's case since the beginning of the game literally. | ||
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On November 02 2014 06:56 ritoky wrote: why is risk.nuke not in that list anymore? has your scum read on him evaporated? if so, why? No, I just forgot to mention him. I'd jump on risk in a second if I thought we could get majority. He's done almost absolutely nothing for town. | ||
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On November 02 2014 07:07 Blazinghand wrote: Fair enough. Look at how GB has responded to RNG this game. Most people who don't like RNG just dismiss it, or call it bad (which eventually, it seeems he did). What GB isntead has done has said it was "disruptive" somehow (even though basically i was the only one voting along those lines) and responded with a counterattack against me. Is this how a town player, one who is familiar with RNG, would react? Why not just call RNG bad? Why not just call me scum for using RNG? Why call attention to the fact that RNG is disruptive to the town discourse, or say that it's unusually bad becuase it landed on him? This is not how my thought process would go if I were RNGed as town and I think it shows us that GB is scum. It was probably OMGUS. That's what it looked like to me. BH, who do you read as scum? | ||
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On November 02 2014 07:13 ritoky wrote: i just glanced through your filter. it seems you have or had scum reads on: LT, slam, GB, BH, misder and risk....that's 6 mafia reads....a couple i don't really feel are explained. as for your town reads...you have 1 on circumstance for being "level-headed" early on and no real mention of anything since... so my question here is, do you care who gets lynched or do you just care about lynching someone and being in the majority like you just stated? I no longer have scum reads on slam or LT. I think HF is town, not sure about circumstance tbh. I don't think I ever said GB was scum. It's been closer to null all game for him. Could go either way with how he's playing. If BH, misder or risk get lynched I wouldn't mind. BH's back in the thread so he might change my mind. Anyone else - I need some serious convincing, but I much rather have somebody lynched than nobody lynched. | ||
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On November 02 2014 07:17 Damdred wrote: Ok BH is town, hes actually catching up and giving thoughts on stuff. He shouldn't be the lynch today even though he called me inarticulate You just like that he's defending you. | ||
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Can someone quote or link these two posts for me, because I am sometimes a little slow about this. | ||
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On November 02 2014 08:31 Blazinghand wrote: what makes it a null game for GB? he's been making a lot of posts and that's convinced many people... but not you? you unvoted him earlier. can you explain why, or who your head honcho for lynching is? it seems like you're lost, and you don't know who to lynch. seems like you need something to guide you. something untouchable. something pure. something perfect. something policy. something like RNG So as I explained earlier, I only voted GB because I'd been convinced RNG was good. When I changed my mind on RNG, I changed my vote. GB is trying his hardest to get somebody lynched. Someone who he thinks is scummy. This is kinda townie. I just don't quite agree with all his reasonings. If you want me to go back to a GB vote, you'll have to convince me that GB is actually scummy. I'm just not seeing it right now. Right now, I think misder is the best lynch target. He was blue fishing, hasn't posted scumreads, and has been pretty AFK for the last day or so. If he wants to get ignored (a scummy thing), he's doing pretty well. Why wouldn't you lynch misder? | ||
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On November 02 2014 08:59 Blazinghand wrote: just lurking and blue fishing doesn't do it for me. blue fishing is bad but i don't see scum doing it often enough to think it's a scum thing. you've haven't told me about his mindset, just that he hasn't posted much. if you want to convince me that a policy lurker lynch is better than RNG lycnh, which has worked 50% of the time I've actually gotten people to vote the guy, you'ave got another thing coming Sample size = 2? | ||
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And BH needs to take a stats course. | ||
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On November 02 2014 09:39 ritoky wrote: like....what is your case on misder? i tried to look thru your filter and didn't find anything really organized. and this sentiment is literally a direct sheep of something i said earlier. Blue fishing + No scum hunting + Lurking + that = decent chance of scum. | ||
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On November 02 2014 09:48 Holyflare wrote: Were you not happy with his answers? I thought they were quite towny On October 31 2014 14:38 Misder wrote: For the "role-fishing" thing - don't know if what I said actually counts as role-fishing, but if we ever do find out his character, I'm inclined to believe that jkirby is not the opposite alignment of that character (subjective of course). I would have thought that either way, but I asked because I wanted to get the point across. I read it as "Role fishing? I wasn't role-fishing, I was just kinda... asking him what his role was. Also, lets talk more about what his role might be." Also, with his last post, he calls for a risk.nuke lynch, but doesn't even vote him. Are you all going to let him sit back in the scum QT laughing at us? | ||
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How do you feel about that? I think that's too much lurking. | ||
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risk.nuke: who are you going to vote this day? | ||
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While I hope it's real, as it'll be super hard to get a lynch today without it, Something tells me it's not a real thing. | ||
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On November 03 2014 07:30 Alakaslam wrote: Hey so what fish I consolidate Going for Tolkien Sson everyone follow WAT? What happened to risk? he's still super scummy. | ||
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On November 03 2014 07:47 risk.nuke wrote: Viscera, how did I react poorly? Wouldn't mind if you were specific. You appeared out of nowhere and said turning majority lynch into double lynch was scummy. | ||
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On November 03 2014 08:01 Holyflare wrote: He said he can't play till next cycle so why not lynch the guy that could and has been completely awful? (lt) Because he's scum, as we've pointed out. LT was awful at the beginning, but he's been ok (not great) since he actually started playing. | ||
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On November 03 2014 08:04 risk.nuke wrote: jrkirby, I came out because I saw something worth commenting on and had time to do it. And I didn't say the ability was scummy, I said the timing and way he used it was scummy because it was being used so sub-optimally. Viscera, Following the thread is so I'd be aware if anything big happens, It's basically skimming the thread. I haven't had time to look for mafia. I didn't see any danger in myself getting lynched today because it is stupid to lynch someone day1 when he's promised to be active day2. Like that is the optimal mafia agenda. Push the innocent guy as a lurker before he gets a chance to play. If what you say is true, that I'm scum just trying to get away with doing nothing it will be evident day2 and you can lynch me then. I don't understand how you can go like, no, it so SOOOO important to kill me today instead of after I've had a chance to post reads. Your post feel like such bullshit. Thread: "Why don't you hunt scum?" risk.nuke: "I'll do it later" | ||
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On November 03 2014 08:06 VisceraEyes wrote: This defense feels genuine. What do you think of Damdred risk? You buy that? He's been reading the thread the whole time, but that's the only thing he thought was important to comment on? If he were reading the thread, why not comment on the extended day? Why comment on nothing and vote on nothing till after the regular day would've ended? He's 100% scum. | ||
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On November 03 2014 07:27 Holyflare wrote: Lt claim or die Why are you asking him to claim? That's just bad play. | ||
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On November 03 2014 09:01 GlowingBear wrote: How Can you guys Not want To lynch Damdred? Just how? How? Risk is 20x scummier. Damdred is just bumblingly bad. Risk is clear scum. | ||
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On November 03 2014 09:18 Holyflare wrote: You have 0 reasons why he is town and i have plenty on why he is mafia Convince me. | ||
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On November 03 2014 09:20 GlowingBear wrote: I have plenty of reasons to see him as a joker. All I know is that he's not scum. | ||
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On November 03 2014 09:40 Seuss wrote: This looks less like joker and more like faking joker to get out of a lynch to me. That's something that occurred to me. But if he were scum, there wouldn't be so many people voting for him. Why is circumstance voting for him? With no chatting in thread either. That sounds kinda like scum trying to finish up a lynch on Misder is still a jungle panther (stealthed) keeping his vote on him since forever ago before he really started playing. Kinda scummy. Risk is scummy for other reasons. He's just voting LT because it's the other wagon. | ||
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On November 03 2014 09:52 GlowingBear wrote: CASE ON CIRCUMSTANCE CASE ON CIRCUMSTANCE CASE ON CIRCUMSTANCE At the moment, a circumstance lynch would be fine to me. But the wagon isn't gonna change, it's too late for that. The only two wagons here are LT and risk, and risk is was better of a lynch. | ||
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It wasn't real. risk's response showed he was scum though. | ||
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Start here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/469686-hearthstone-mafia?page=62#1239 read the beginning of the next page. risk comes out of nowhere and says it's scummy to try to defend himself. After his afkness, and his explaination of why he responded right there, I call it scum play. | ||
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On November 03 2014 11:06 Lord Tolkien wrote: Back. dang, jester fakeclaim didn't convince anyone? oh ffs fine Claiming Northshire Cleric. No idea what my night actions are, but presumably medic. And now I die at night. Whewt. http://memecrunch.com/meme/15MXY/anchorman/image.png?w=400&c=1 but we'll see what happens at night. | ||
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Damn, I just want him lynched even if he isn't scum. | ||
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##Unvote ##Vote: Lord Tolkein | ||
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What I mean is this: I didn't have scumread on him before, but there's no way this can be townie. And I'm pissed at it. Pissed = want him lynched, no matter what. | ||
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On November 03 2014 11:38 Holyflare wrote: Nothing he does makes any sense but i sure as shit don't want to risk killing a medic??? Who kirby pretty much said was town There is no way he's medic. It's gotta be bullshit. Do you believe that claim? | ||
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IF YOU"RE REALLY MEDIC, DON'T CLAIM!!!!! | ||
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On November 03 2014 11:43 Lord Tolkien wrote: You didn't believe the Acolyte of Pain claim. I wasn't voting for you when you claimed acolyte, but true, I wasn't sure I believed you. The northshire, no fucking way ever. but really, I was talking to any other medic who may possibly exist. If you're a real medic, don't claim here. | ||
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On November 03 2014 11:42 Misder wrote: Guys I have four votes please get on another train Does anybody know what he means by this? It seems like some kinda claim. | ||
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On November 03 2014 11:48 Oatsmaster wrote: Jrjrjrjrrj KIRBY!!!! wat? | ||
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On November 03 2014 12:40 Blazinghand wrote: man Damdred y u gotta h8 i voted LT and we'll get GB tomorrow Gotta be honest here BH, but your play is not living up to your reputation. | ||
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On November 03 2014 12:48 Oatsmaster wrote: yeah whoever moved my vote onto damdred better claim. Why would scum claim what they did? | ||
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On November 03 2014 12:51 ObiWanShinobi wrote: But...I voted LT. Hold up. Oats and I both voted LT. Is there some kind of votecount manipulator in play or some such? I checked the votelogs and we're both on record as voting LT, but our votes wound up somewhere else somehow. My guess from knowing lore is this: Scum hunter with misdirect. Can't be sure though. | ||
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On November 03 2014 13:05 Alakaslam wrote: We still lynch risk tomorrow Sounds good to me. Also, if people with abilities to deal with scum used them on circumstance, that might be a good idea imo. | ||
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On November 03 2014 13:10 Misder wrote: The votes on me are me btw. Came with my power. Also anyone know what a homing chicken does. And I spotted Circumstance in the Blizzcon World Champions LR Thread in Liquidhearth btw. I'm tempted to try to ask more about how your power works, but that information is only useful to scum, so don't go into detail about it. | ||
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I definitely still think risk.nuke is a great lynch target for today. That hasn't changed a bit. But who are the other scum? Here's some theories, of course it's all speculation: + Show Spoiler [jaybrundage theory] + Jaybrundage is warlock and scum. He was given a power he could choose to use: Jaraxxus. All he has to do is activate it against a person, and win against them in a vote. If he wins, then they die, and he gets extra powers. So he chose ObiWanShinobi, becuase he confident people though he was more scummy looking than himself, which seems the general town sentiment. + Show Spoiler [Caviots] + On the other hand he could be town who chose town, or town who chose mafia. If he's town who picked mafia, then obviously it's risky to not vote obi. If he's town who picked town, it doesn't matter, and obi is probably better to lynch anyway. Or it could be that warlock is someone completely different and it worked on two random guys (it's chaotic right). I kinda doubt it because on mafia, that's a super strong ability, and on town, it's a stupid anti-town ability to use. Obviously this is about 10 pounds of speculation, so take it with more salt than you got last time reynad lost. + Show Spoiler [Holyflare theory] + I expected holyflare to die last night, which is why I'm quite wary of him. I know this could be kinda WIFOM, but if you never call the WIFOM, scum can just kill whoever's on their case. Holyflare is the ultimate busser. He knows he can get town to follow him if he's active and plays a solid game. So he and LT agree that he's going to buss LT at the beginning of the game, and LT will play haphazardly. His play was kinda awful, and from what everyone says about him he's better than that, even as scum. So perhaps he was playing bad on purpose? Anyway, holyflare thinks that once he gets town to follow him, he can lead lynches on town 8 days a week, and nobody will suspect him. After all, he led the lynch on scum day one. There's even a quote here near the beginning of day 2 telling people that they should sheep him. I also speculate that BH was killed by town, which in my mind says damdred has a decent chance to be scum too. Or maybe scum has 2 KP. idk. I should spend more time reading filters, but now the weekend is over and I have HW and tests and shit IRL, so life sucks. | ||
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But on the otherhand it's town flavored, but on the third hand flavor is not alignment indicative. Holyflare: Does it tell you what you can do if you get votes? Or how many votes you need to get? | ||
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On November 04 2014 14:44 Holyflare wrote: Kirby assuming there's a million kp flying around with no medics. Your jay theory of him going on the easiest town target possible could actually make a lot of sense. Your one about me is provably wrong though. Prove it then, and i'll drop it. | ||
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On November 04 2014 14:48 Holyflare wrote: There's a player in this game alive that knows my alignment but obviously he's not going to out just to prove a point right now I'll take your word for now, but I hope the town doesn't forget you've said this. | ||
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Sorry Obi. | ||
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On November 04 2014 14:42 jrkirby wrote: Holyflare: Does it tell you what you can do if you get votes? Or how many votes you need to get? Holyflare, you never responded to this. | ||
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What don't you get? I think they're both town, but we have to lynch one, so I think it should be obi. Did I mixup a name? | ||
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After it happens there should be definitive proof whether it was pro town or anti-town. This will besically be like everyone detectiving holyflare and getting a result in thread. By looking at the votes of the people who don't put their faith in the light, it will be easier to find scum. More signal, less noise. If it does work, I imagine it will be pretty strong. If it doesn't work, we can lynch holyflare, and it probably won't end the game (I think?). It sounds towny. Holyflare has been acting pretty towny in thread. Since it looks like something you can't undo, I'll wait a bit before I actually make the plunge, but right now, there's a good change I'm gonna do this. I think the optimal amount of faith in the light should be around 5-7 people maybe? | ||
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On November 04 2014 15:32 VisceraEyes wrote: You're removing those votes from the town, giving mafia more power. You don't give that many votes to Holyflare TO USE. That's where the plan falls apart. Right, but if the mafia make really scummy votes, then it'll be pretty obvious, right? | ||
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On November 04 2014 15:45 ritoky wrote: I am considering it, I have a hard time seeing you; and malfurion (who no one has cc'd) being mafia. Primarily, pardon my insult, because I have a hard time believing that 2 mafia were stupid enough to make a dumpster tier read (you) on damdred and then the other sheep that read for 0 reason (LT). Like that play just seems too bad for both of you to be mafia. I have a much easier time seeing jay's play yesterday as being mafia, as well as you know....a devil from the burning legion.... From the OP: A player's character name does not have any relation to their alignment. | ||
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On November 04 2014 16:27 ritoky wrote: Really wish someone had just shot him. Don't we all | ||
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On November 04 2014 17:30 ritoky wrote: so not being here is a valid excuse for you, but not these people? can't have it both ways. To be honest, they've been lurking way more than jay. risk.nuke, well he's done almost nothing all game. Misder had his vote set on LT when he left, and was AFK forever, and barely posted when he returned at the very end of the day. Circumstance even did a ninja vote without posting in the thread. Maybe jay's been lurking a bit, but at least the people he's been complaining about have been lurking more than him. | ||
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I think you're scum, and unless you start posting some thoughts, I'm going to actually get you lynched today, along with the rest of town. Probably going to get you lynched anyway, but if you're town, you'd better post. The only reason you didn't get lynched yesterday was because your scumbuddy was playing worse than you were. | ||
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What's your opinion on the jay/obs oblivion shenanigans? | ||
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On November 05 2014 07:10 Damdred wrote: Risk give reads who's scummy give us something besides lurking He's not going to. I was talking to him earlier a bit, and he's like: On November 04 2014 21:41 risk.nuke wrote: Don't make things about me. He's not going to give real honest scumreads because he's scum. He doesn't want people talking about him because he's scum. He doesn't post often because he's scum. We should lynch him because he's scum. ##Vote: risk.nuke | ||
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On November 05 2014 07:32 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Kirby's vote was weird. Who gets pissed off over a medic claim? It's less that I was pissed that he claimed medic. It's more that it was obvious to everyone that it was a fake claim. I wasn't sure what LT was before. When he practically claimed jester, I didn't really believe him, but he might have been a town trying to do something weird, I just wasn't sure what was going on. Once he made the northshire cleric claim, I knew one of his claims was false. And if someone like that is willing to make one fakeclaim, they'll make two. So it was pretty clear to me that the northshire claim was complete bullshit. And if someone is claiming medic, and I'm like 95%+ sure that they're lying about it, it just makes me what to lynch them. Regardless of their motivations. At the end, I still wasn't sure he was mafia, but I was certain he wasn't medic. | ||
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On November 05 2014 08:12 risk.nuke wrote: Yeah I care, I want to lynch oats. None of you seem to care though. You're all super content doing nothing aswell and lynching me because I was busy day1. What did you expect from me, a massive case. Most of what was said day 1 was useless and the rest is inconclusive. I want to talk and discuss things, I want to hear your thought and I have no problem giving you mine. This will actually give me information I can use. If you want to help me, you can start by telling me what you think of oats and jrjkirby who's being fishy as hell today. Fishy as hell = pushing my case on you. What did you expect from me, a massive case. Yes, that's what I expect. You said you were a good player, right? | ||
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##Send ObiWanShinobi to Oblivion | ||
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