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Votes for me already? I love it :D DO TELL? WHY WOULD YOU EVER VOTE FOR ME? | ||
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On October 31 2014 12:18 VisceraEyes wrote: I think GB probably town. Stay tuned for more simplistic insights with VE. I'm already a fan. ##Vote VE For Major | ||
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On October 31 2014 13:13 Oatsmaster wrote: It's literally not. It's the sorta shit that gets people mislynched because too much weight is put into some irrelevant comment. And also, it's a conversation starter that isn't supposed to go anywhere. You know this. Stop bothering me about it. It's not alignment indicative therefore useless I LIKE THIS POST | ||
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My response to that would be it's super early in the day people post because there is nothing else to do. They post for the hell of it till they think they see something scummy and they scumhunt. Oh and just so no one gets confused I just liked VE's post cause VE is awesome and he said Stay tuned for more simplistic insights with VE. God I love this guy XDI hadn't looked into GB before then. | ||
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On October 31 2014 13:38 Misder wrote: Do you think, given your role, that the character a person is from HS correlates to his/her alignment? It stated in the Set up that this is not the case. A character does not relate to (Mafia) alignment. I do find it weird that in the text from Mr.Bigglesworth that he mentions finding the Horde | ||
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Does this come from a player or part of the flavor of the game We dont know if the cat could of came from mafia so it could just be something to mess us up. | ||
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On October 31 2014 13:47 Mr. Bigglesworth wrote: Purrrrr Once it reaches majority. I'm not one of the mods, so you don't have to use the green font. Meeeeow! Well then dont respond to green text. Then. I WANT MOD CONFIRMATION FOR MAH POSTS GREEN POSTS. SCRAM KITTY | ||
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On October 31 2014 13:53 GlowingBear wrote: So, you think asking me if I'm scum is doing a better job than pointing out a bad entrance? C'mon oats. Would you prefer if that person hadn't posted then? Would that be more townie? | ||
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On October 31 2014 13:58 GlowingBear wrote: Tell me the town motivation behind coming to the thread, summarizing a thread 2 pages long, downgrading his gameplay and bringing nothing contributive. It isn't even a conversation starter. You didn't answer my question You stated if they didnt wanna joke around why would they post. I would say cause people feel obligated to post on day 1 as there is nothing else to do. As for downgrading himself. I know i am not the next prodigy mafia player, palmar incarnate. I am a just an average mafia player that enjoys the game. Who cares if someone knows they aren't great. I think people say that ts a scum tell but i never feel like scum actually use it. | ||
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On October 31 2014 14:03 GlowingBear wrote: I think discussing this is harmful to town. It will be just WIFOMing and we won't reach anywhere discussing this. I think we should just vote and ignore its existence until it posts an analysis. Then we can evaluate it. Yea, you say we shouldn't discuss this. But your also arguing against what i just proposed. I said we should not give any votes to the cat. While your saying we should vote. Also I asked the hosts questions that should reveal somethings about the cat if they choose to answer them. | ||
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On October 31 2014 14:08 ritoky wrote: You are on about some really arbitrary, nitpicking stuff imo. I am not a fan. There's a difference between knowing you're not great; and first posts advertising how not great you are. I'm trying to get people to post about there reasoning and to post more so i can get a better read on them. The faster there is substance in the thread. The faster real analyzing can happen. By me "nitpicking" hopefully you can also get a better read on me as well as GB. Who is my nit...pickeded XD | ||
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On October 31 2014 14:09 Holyflare wrote: there's literally nothing more to talk about on that subject and it's pretty weird that jay is vehemently arguing with gb about it when it's irrelevant game speculation Listen bro dont hate on mah PASSION ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/ZvuBGLu.jpg) | ||
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On October 31 2014 14:19 Oatsmaster wrote: I dont see why doing a side objective could be bad in any way. Not sure what you mean by side objective. It could hurt us however as third party could glean information to win the game and it would make town lose. Hm thinking about it if horde could be both mafia and town then the third party would be indifferent to helping either of us. hm If third party wins does it mean that town and mafia lose? or does third party win condition, have an objective they have to fufill so they can win with either Mafia or town? Sorry if I didnt make my question clear. I dont know too much about third party in mafia set ups. | ||
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On October 31 2014 14:20 ritoky wrote: How is hammering on a point that he clearly won't back down on and you disagree with getting more info into the thread? People already challenged him on it and he didn't budge. You just seem to be trying to find an arbitrary hole to throw scum at. I am not very fond of you atm. I wanted to see his thought process. I may be hyper focusing on it a bit. (Bad tendency of mine.) But it was one of the things that stuck out to me. Oh also to the people that haven't posted yet. Get on it. I can't stand lurkers. | ||
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On October 31 2014 14:32 Holyflare wrote: read op before playing, come back and post content, kk? The OP didn't answer my question. But based on the context of your post im guessing that you are implying that they wont answer my question. Tell me this then if your knowledgeable on set ups. For the most part are things that are "Third Party" win to the exclusion town and mafia. | ||
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Dude all of your posts srsly suck you haven't even tried to engage in conversation with anyone. Every. Single. One. is just trash. and completely unrelated to the thread. ##Vote Lord Tolkien | ||
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But being stuck up just makes you guys seem well... Stuck up. Just cause I'm ignorant of something doesn't mean you have to give me shit. Hell I wasn't even asking you guys at first.Originally I was asking the Hosts. Also saying it was "all I have been talking about when I had been talking to GB just before that just seems to lack thread awareness. | ||
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On October 31 2014 14:45 Oatsmaster wrote: 3p either wins alone or with town or with scum. So yeahhhhhhhhh basically nothing. I think its way more likely that this helps us rather than hurting us, more info good for town cause of the info imbalance between town and mafia. IGNORE 3P. Interesting that you brought up 3p though, why do you think this game has a 3p? Thank you Oats. See this is the answer I was looking for HF and Obi plz take note. Oh and because the Cat specifically mentioned finding and killing the horde (im paraphasing) And the horde isn't alignment indicative of mafia or town. | ||
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On October 31 2014 14:52 Oatsmaster wrote: 2nd time you noob claimed btw. Just so you know. in the most amiable way idgaf | ||
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On October 31 2014 14:58 Seuss wrote: Oh hey. ##Analyze: GlowingBear Holy Shit Monty is in this. Whats up Monty? Dude BTW i still miss your amazing calls from TL Inhouse 5's Do you still play any league? | ||
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On October 31 2014 15:28 Lord Tolkien wrote: (the point of my post)------> (your head) + Show Spoiler + aka, HF make very townie read on me, am happeh @LT Oh sorry, did i miss the point of your post. As far as i could tell it just seemed like fluff. Oh wait, nope still fluff. | ||
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Saying I have been only posting about policy just isn't true so why does he say it? On October 31 2014 14:09 Holyflare wrote: there's literally nothing more to talk about on that subject and it's pretty weird that jay is vehemently arguing with gb about it when it's irrelevant game speculation On October 31 2014 22:43 Holyflare wrote: jay why is it bad that his posts are fluff when all of yours are the same? On October 31 2014 23:52 Holyflare wrote: 1) ObiWanShinobi <--- random town reads based off of almost nothing and talking about useless crap 2) Lord Tolkien - useless spam all game, making things up about me to justify vote (still dont even know if it was a joke) 5) risk.nuke - 0 posts 7) Seuss 10) Oatsmaster - aggression but no real commitment and looks really behind when he returns to question things already answered, dunno might take him off 11) Alakaslam - 0 posts 12) Blazinghand - 0 posts (wouldn't be surprised if he was somehow the cat) 13) Damdred - don't really know what he's thinking at all 14) liancourt - potentially could take off he looks jokey enough and has some of his trademark basic reads but meh 17) jaybrundage - cat policy, 3 policy, ?????? policy king op list post, please contribute to shrinking it On October 31 2014 14:44 jaybrundage wrote: Dude all of your posts srsly suck you haven't even tried to engage in conversation with anyone. Every. Single. One. is just trash. and completely unrelated to the thread. ##Vote Lord Tolkien [QUOTE]On October 31 2014 22:25 jaybrundage wrote: [QUOTE]On October 31 2014 15:28 Lord Tolkien wrote: [QUOTE]On October 31 2014 14:44 jaybrundage wrote: [QUOTE]On October 31 2014 14:40 Lord Tolkien wrote: [QUOTE]On October 31 2014 14:28 Holyflare wrote: also LT completely different and i mean COMPLETELY different from his fanfic game and all he's done is talk about useless things that the op contradicts (alignment/role stuff) and wants to lynch/joke lynch me based off of something when he knows that im busy doing something else (he came and saw me playing league) also super weird unvote after gb made a post and then disappearing[/QUOTE] 20 points to gryffindor[/QUOTE] Dude all of your posts srsly suck you haven't even tried to engage in conversation with anyone. Every. Single. One. is just trash. and completely unrelated to the thread. ##Vote Lord Tolkien[/QUOTE] (the point of my post)------> (your head) + Show Spoiler + aka, HF make very townie read on me, am happeh @LT Oh sorry, did i miss the point of your post. As far as i could tell it just seemed like fluff. Oh wait, nope still fluff. | ||
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On October 31 2014 14:44 jaybrundage wrote: Dude all of your posts srsly suck you haven't even tried to engage in conversation with anyone. Every. Single. One. is just trash. and completely unrelated to the thread. ##Vote Lord Tolkien On October 31 2014 22:25 jaybrundage wrote: @LT Oh sorry, did i miss the point of your post. As far as i could tell it just seemed like fluff. Oh wait, nope still fluff. | ||
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On November 01 2014 04:44 Holyflare wrote: Jay your posts are all policy and i don't need to include you arguing with gb because you were again arguing over policy so there's that, then you also make a giant case thing on me which apparently has no relevance because you're voting for the person I've called mafia...? So not only does that entire post say nothing but you don't even follow through with the nothing on me. Again your saying things things that are strictly untrue. I first started posting to gb about how he called out someone's first post as not saying anything and if they didn't wanna joke they shouldn't post and that didn't make sense to me. So no I was not "only" arguing about policy. Second off you never called him mafia See this WHOLE POST you never once called him mafia. In fact I voted in the thread for LT BEFORE you did!! Are you being intentionally ironic. I don't get how you can type this shit and act like your in the right. On October 31 2014 14:28 Holyflare wrote: also LT completely different and i mean COMPLETELY different from his fanfic game and all he's done is talk about useless things that the op contradicts (alignment/role stuff) and wants to lynch/joke lynch me based off of something when he knows that im busy doing something else (he came and saw me playing league) also super weird unvote after gb made a post and then disappearing What my post says is that your saying things in your posts that are strictly untrue and your shit flinging at me. And you continue to say things that aren't true and shit fling. Alakaslam said this is normal for you as both alignments which is baffling to me. Can anyone who has played with HF comment on this stuff. As it stands I wouldn't mind if he is out day 1 lynch. | ||
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On November 01 2014 08:17 VisceraEyes wrote: JayB are you still Best Mislynch NA? LOL I forgot about that. Its funny cause oats was giving me crap before it's like he doesn't even know me. XD On October 31 2014 14:52 Oatsmaster wrote: 2nd time you noob claimed btw. Just so you know. | ||
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On November 01 2014 08:20 VisceraEyes wrote: I've given plenty of insights. The following are insights I've made in the thread: HF and Misder seem to be thinking critically about the game > town GB seems genuinely aggressive > town JayB seems to be buddying me > mafia? risk.nuke seems to be third-party hunting > mafia! That's like four more insights than like 3/4 of the players in the game! How about you define "insightful" for me if inactivity isn't your beef? VE screw you. You always think I'm mafia you jerk. You used to be able to read me well. And I knew you were mafia if you called me scum cause you could always read my town game. But then in the League of Legends themed game you were town and thought i was mafia and you were wrong. What happened to the good reads bro. You scum this game? | ||
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On November 01 2014 08:20 GlowingBear wrote: That doesn't tell much about his alignment, IMO. Anyway, I always have a hard time reading HF I thought lying and shit flinging are chiefly mafia traits. GB if you have a town read on HF can you tell me why? He did some poke at misder but misder replied and that was it. Is there anything else that would make you think HF is town? | ||
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And not much reason to keep him around. Also LT I don't believe I have seen you contribute yet still waiting. | ||
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Seems like sound logic | ||
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On November 01 2014 08:39 risk.nuke wrote: Woah! What do you base those accusations on? My last game I played with you Shadowed Mini Mafia The Reboot We almost lost the game cause we let you get into late game and let you get away with not posting content, constant lurking, and having a temper tantrum if someone called you scum. | ||
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No I am not sure lol. It appears that I got you mixed up with Coagulation. I made that first post about you thinking back on my experiences from the Shadowed Mini Mafia: The Reboot. So err sorry about that. However, If Coagulation was in this game I would totes be down to vote him. | ||
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On November 01 2014 09:03 Lord Tolkien wrote: BUT MOOOOOM, I got TLLOLOTGDTGN tonite, can't I wait till LATER to contribute? I was gonna respond with a parody of your post asking the thread to lynch you. But I am actually curious at what point does your posting of only joke posts, videos, and exclamations of "LOL" become unacceptable to the thread. Granted your cavalier attitude makes you almost appear townie. But the main issue is that a there is no content spread thru your jokes and "LOL's a townie would want to scumhunt and you have done nothing of the sort. Do you plan to contribute or you do you plan to keep stalling? | ||
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On November 01 2014 09:20 jrkirby wrote: BH why didn't you let us discuss rng lynch before culculating the rng so we can tell if anybody changes their mind about rng based on the outcome of it? Why even discuss it. Its dumb. At best its a first post conversation starter. This late in the day it has no useful applications | ||
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You bring up risk.nuke what's your reasoning for wanting to lynch him? How do you feel about Oats? Do you still think hes worth analyzing? What's your read on him? LT has quite a bit of votes on him but you haven't mentioned him as a candidate. Why is that? Who is your ideal lynch candidate? | ||
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On November 01 2014 13:08 Oatsmaster wrote: I dont know his alignment but he posted a decent amount leading to a more consistent read by an outside party Ha I'll show you no one can read the Best Mislynch NA MWAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAH+ Show Spoiler + 3rd noob claim | ||
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On November 01 2014 12:28 Circumstance wrote: I'll go over the questions first, since I need to do a proper filter runthrough before I go on with reads. I've been going mainly on instinct since I went to bed last night. I brought up risk.nuke because I noticed a push towards him, and given that I was assuming a majority requirement, I figured it would be pertinent to nail someone down quickly. Oats still feels like he's not really helping move things along. Holyflare's assessment of him mimics my thoughts to a certain extent. I think he's definitely worth an analysis, because he just doesn't seem to make sense right now. LT seemed like a placeholder more than anything - the rationale of voting seemed to be mainly "eh, no big loss if we're wrong." And I did see a few posts indicating that people were planning on unvoting him (though that evidently didn't wind up happening in the thread itself). If it were up to me, I had the power to off one player straight away, I wouldn't be prepared to do so just yet. I'm not seeing something I can put together and say "Yes, this player is definitely ideal to lynch today", so with the time we have, I'd like for us all to get a stronger case put together on someone. So the biggest thing I think I got from your post is that your unsure about anyone's alignment as of yet. Disappointing but as we are in the first day not very surprising either. However as noted by the Bold it seems that your very willing to sheep the thread. Do you plan to just go with the majority?Do you have a player that you strongly consider town and would be willing to follow? Also I would be fine lynching LT. While he is not reeking of mafia. His continuous lack of contributions are becoming more and more telling. He also seems to not be bothered with the vote majority on him atm and shows no signs of improving. | ||
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On November 01 2014 12:29 liancourt wrote: i agree to test this cat we should use it on a lurker to see if it gives additional info. I think atm risk.nuke is the primary lurker so ##Analyze risk.nuke You must of missed this. Using this on a lurker (if you do plan to use it) would be a waste. On November 01 2014 00:02 Mr. Bigglesworth wrote: To clarify things: I am a player from outside the game. I was summoned by a townie who I must keep in secret. I'll analyse a player as any player would. This means I will read the thread, focus on that player's posts, and say what I think about him, i.e., make a case. Talking about me will lead nowhere. I am town aligned but I'm not a killable player. Which means you will gain nothing trying to know who I am or if I am town, mafia or 3rd party, for I'm none. This is my last post until the first analysis. Meow. | ||
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@ Liancourt. I noticed that you seem to comment on a lot of things and often ask questions. Liking it so far. I am not sure who your top scum read is tho. Do you have anyone picked out? I would ideally like to get each person to set up a position on who they would like to lynch. The day is half over, What would suck is if at the end of the day we have people with poorly defined positions who just can pile on any bandwagon with little reasoning and because of that let scum influence the lynch. I'm not posting this just to try to give scum a hard time. Townies do this shit too and it makes it harder to sift thru the drivel after a lynch. | ||
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On November 01 2014 14:08 ritoky wrote: Why do you trust and believe the cat before it has even done anything? Cuz no one has ever lied in a mafia game right? And how is it a waste? How do you know the cat doesn't have more information? If you use it on a lurker with nearly no content and the cat comes back with something more; it potentially has more info, if it says idk, then it is basically useless since it just distributes an opinion from a source who's motive we don't know. I don't see how that is a useless proposition in the slightest. The fact that you have 0 skepticism over this shit doesn't reflect a townie mindset. Rofl How about you go read what my opinion about the cat is. Also Liancourt made his decision to pick a lurker from what i saw as a false assumption that the cat had knowledge independent of the thread based on him not reading well or misinterpreting what the cat said. So I pointed out his mistake. Again read what my actually opinion is about the cat your whole tirade is irrelevant. | ||
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On November 01 2014 14:44 ritoky wrote: i don't think your previously stated opinion matters in this case. you just quoted the cat and bolded it like it was fact to refute someone's reasoning. which to me, says you believe it. and if your previous opinion was any different, that just makes it worse. but i mean, we will see this cat analysis since apparently it's going on you w/e the thing posts. If your too lazy to filter me and find what i said about the cat previously and insist on arguing from ignorance. I won't be responding to anything further on the matter. | ||
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Get some dice DO IT FOR RNG. | ||
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Get it! Cause he said roll and i said dice and RNG + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/SZmUSix.gif) | ||
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On November 01 2014 15:01 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Tempted to rescind my townread on jb for his bad jokes. Is it worth it? Probably. IT WAS WORTH IT!!!!!11111 | ||
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On November 01 2014 14:57 Oatsmaster wrote: Seriously that rng shit was such bullshit this time. Super cop out, and not at all like what he did before I'm having faith that Blazing will come back and actually do something. | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + On November 01 2014 16:54 Lord Tolkien wrote: alright, back from long series of cancer inhouses wheeeeeeee~ I'm tired and actually want to sleep, but I SUPPOSE I should help lead town to victory. ...when I'm not about to pass out. First, I really want to analyze JB. But whatever town wants, I guess. I'll consolidate because I'm a conformist and not mafia trying to waste muh votes. Two, Misder, I find it very enlightening to see how people reacted to my blatant trolling. Very enlightening indeed. It's how I garner early reads: looking at the wagons that always form on me D1. :D Plus no one ever lynches me D1, so why should I be concerned. Three, Holyflare, VE, and GlowingBear are probably town. Compare the cancer mafia Glowing to current Glowing. Much more wililng to take a stance and much less passive. Will peg him as town for now. Would also sort of like to say OWS is slightly leaning town, but much less to go on. I've heard people say that Oats is hard to read, but idk, he's leaning town in my reading. Everyone else are scummerdawgs, or I can't read them based on past experience. Id actually have to, like, put in effort and nitpick their filters. Four, as much lulz and hilarity BHs RNG lynch turned out in FFL mini-mafia, I'm not quite ready to take one on yet. At least, not when I've good a semi-decent read on Glowing. Won't vote for what I suspect is a sure mislynch. Also again, lynching (one of?) the most active player is lelelelel Five, Zzzzz, Giving risk.nuke some time to do his IRL shit. But if he dont post D2, we post lynch him then. If we lurker lynch someone, we should totes lynch jrkirby: who are you mafia reads? You made it clear that I'm only your vote because you want me to post stuff and not troll. I'll post moar, but can't promise not trolling on occasion. But in any event, you've given no real stance on possible mafia, instead sheeping onto a silly RNG vote. I'll be awake sometime before ~12PM EDT to carry town to victoryyyyyyy. For now, #Vote Seuss But i'll consolidate when the time cums First Everyone and their mum wants to analyze me nothing new here. Second You say its "Very enlightening indeed." How people react to your trolling. Classic cop out. And seeing as I have been reacting strongly against your "trolling" I would think you would have something insightful to comment about me. You put a throw away vote on Seuss. Directly under that you state your intention to sheep towards the end of the day. Going further then that you recant your vote on Seuss after you see him post. After 20 or so shit posts I'm not impressed. Your only redeeming factor is that BH has done less then you. Which is rather damning for BH. And who I am rather disappointed in. | ||
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@BG You wanna switch to Damdred as i can see. What opinion do you currently have on BH as he was your last top scum read. | ||
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On November 02 2014 02:07 GlowingBear wrote: LYNCH ALL LIARS. IF YOU DON'T GET DAMDRED LYNCHED I'LL PUNCH A WALL... WITH MY HEAD. Video or it didn't happen | ||
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On November 02 2014 02:14 GlowingBear wrote: You guys, Place your votes on Damdred Don't force me into making a huge case on him. We already have enough motives to lynch him. I could never not accept a case freely offered. GB you gonna deliver? | ||
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On November 02 2014 02:24 GlowingBear wrote: I'm gonna take a nap. When I wake up I want to see votes placed on damdy. GB NOT GONNA DELIVER | ||
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On November 02 2014 02:21 Damdred wrote: I'll take bad town, not any different from most of the thread. And look at jrkirby he once again changed vote when it wasn't going in the way that he wanted Don't worry about replying to the thread atm. Put that time into writing a case on a scum read you wanna lynch today. We know you think GB might be scum and worth lynching later on but we got to lynch someone in less then 10 hours. GIT HER DONE | ||
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On November 02 2014 02:26 Holyflare wrote: 1) ObiWanShinobi <--- random town reads based off of almost nothing and talking about useless crap, talks about how much of a waste analysing jb is and then does it 5) risk.nuke - 11) Alakaslam - never have any clue really 12) Blazinghand - probably scummiest mofo, excuse for being afk for a ridiculous amount of time (dinner????????) and then rng to fill in the gaps of "content", then NOT pushing his rng target like a mofo and no fake rng case content after that 13) Damdred - massive long post on why jay is town and then asked to post reads and didn't post anything else despite saying he had more notes, pretty scummy especially when jay is super borderline not town that i wanted to put him on this list potential people to add: seuss jay tolkien Stop the shitty list post. I WANNA A CASE DAMMIT. Preferably one that you don't directly misrepresent things. | ||
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On November 02 2014 04:09 GlowingBear wrote: I'm not talking anymore. If you guys don't lynch damdred I won't play this game anymore, so you should lynch me. Bye. This is the worst post in the thread. Plz grow up. | ||
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On November 02 2014 04:10 Damdred wrote: what the literal fuck.... i'm claiming a blue power role and this is the response? I post my notes though ve mad about redacting and this is what you do. Good job gb is a good lynch then @VE: In regards to Dramdred, Bad Town or Scum. The Town case felt pretty heavy-handed. And I'm pretty sure he cleaned up his notes before posting, not that it actually matters. The use of the power seems normal. As scum or town he felt the thread sentiment going towards his lynch and felt he more time would be helpful so he could insure he wouldn't get lynched. The claim seems pretty clear cut. No clue what the issue is here. Also I feel like your hung up on that fact that it changes to a majority lynch. I don't see the big deal. Maybe its cause most of the games I have played have been Majority lynch. But your really over reacting to the switch in voting. Why they hell would the town collectively let a No-Lynch happen? Any town worth its salt wouldn't let that shit happen. We get more time to discuss which is good for town. Although I was looking forward to lynching someone tonite but we have more time to type and we should try to use wisely. [Aside]: And by wisely I mean discuss and try to figure things out and not get tunnel visioned and refuse to consider alternate possibilities /Aside] I think Dramdred's case will be an important factor. Looking forward to it. | ||
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On November 02 2014 03:27 Holyflare wrote: well damd is aldor then i dunno how obvious he wants to be but i think that probably takes him off the table... maybe Why? | ||
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On November 02 2014 05:20 Alakaslam wrote: He is under the impression that it cannot be a scum role. That's dumb | ||
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On November 02 2014 05:23 Lord Tolkien wrote: and pls, I'm not actually a lynch. No one ever lynches me D1, I'm just a placeholder. First time for everything. As Aunt May once said "You're not Superman, you know" Just so you know, in the contest of this quote you're Uncle Ben | ||
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On November 02 2014 02:44 Holyflare wrote: i don't misrepresent anything you can quite literally say what you want but everyone else knows that what i said wasn't a misrepresentation and the only reason you're not on my list is the amount of butt hurt that you are displaying about it and the fact that you actually did something that wasn't talking about policy but it was on me so that's why you're close to being on my list again Hm weird Alakaslam said this so On November 01 2014 04:14 Alakaslam wrote: HF always likes to put words & intent into posts that weren't ever there. Does this as both alignments. You should literally find out what "everyone" means. I can't wrap my head around the fact that you could do this as both alignments. It is such a scummy, mafia-esque trait. Here is an example of something you said that was distinctly wrong. I'm sure you will ignore it tho. Rofl you remind me of Cartman stealing Jimmy's joke and being completely oblivious to the truth. HF you really believe that you haven't been misrepresenting me at all this entire time. Oh my god, Wait, I totally get it now. All this time I have been mad at you HF for trying to misrepresent me. But now I realize that your ego has made you believe that things happened differently, that's what Alakaslam was trying to tell me. That you have such a huge ego that you do these mental gymnastics so you don't appear wrong. I thought you were intentionally being thick. But now I realize that some people have egos that are so out of wack. That no matter what people tell them. They can't accept the truth of what actually happened. HF I realize now that you can't help but think you never made a mistake, Because your ego won't let you think otherwise. Oh and btw and I couldn't give two craps if I'm almost on your list. You ARE still on my list. I have yet to see good reasons why you aren't scum. The only problem is that people that have played with you previously aren't getting any scum vibes. And as I have no previous experience playing with you that i can remember . I'm deferring to their judgement of you. | ||
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On November 02 2014 06:39 jaybrundage wrote: Hm weird Alakaslam said this so You should literally find out what "everyone" means. I can't wrap my head around the fact that you could do this as both alignments. It is such a scummy, mafia-esque trait. Here is an example of something you said that was distinctly wrong. I'm sure you will ignore it tho. Rofl you remind me of Cartman stealing Jimmy's joke and being completely oblivious to the truth. HF you really believe that you haven't been misrepresenting me at all this entire time. Oh my god, Wait, I totally get it now. All this time I have been mad at you HF for trying to misrepresent me. But now I realize that your ego has made you believe that things happened differently, that's what Alakaslam was trying to tell me. That you have such a huge ego that you do these mental gymnastics so you don't appear wrong. I thought you were intentionally being thick. But now I realize that some people have egos that are so out of wack. That no matter what people tell them. They can't accept the truth of what actually happened. HF I realize now that you can't help but think you never made a mistake, Because your ego won't let you think otherwise. Oh and btw and I couldn't give two craps if I'm almost on your list. You ARE still on my list. I have yet to see good reasons why you aren't scum. The only problem is that people that have played with you previously aren't getting any scum vibes. And as I have no previous experience playing with you that i can remember . I'm deferring to their judgement of you. @HF I never assumed anything I asked a question to you about your post. Alakaslam made an assumption that sounded about right. If you have such a problem answer the damn question yourself. On November 02 2014 06:42 Holyflare wrote: It literally does not matter if i am wishy washy, "misrepresnting" or whatever. At the end of the day all i have to do is lead the town to lynch mafia and if you are posting about me representing YOU but then start posting about me town reading someone for their role when that didn't happen at all then all it does is make you look completely terrible. This is what I said But you somehow can make "Why?" and "That's dumb" Into JayBrundage "posting about (HF) town reading someone for their role when that didn't happen at all then all it does is make (JayBrundage) look completely terrible." That is the quote from HF I don't even know what to say. I said three things but he interpreted it into this drivel: JayBrundage "posting about (HF) town reading someone for their role when that didn't happen at all then all it does is make (JayBrundage) look completely terrible." Guys can we just lynch HF? Do people still think hes town at all? | ||
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On November 02 2014 07:35 Holyflare wrote: Yes. Not only have I already explained WHY to the quote during the whole damdred discussion (which proves that you haven't read the game) but then you further agreed with slam saying something that was completely false (which proves that you haven't read the game). So yeh. It makes you look completely terrible that you are pushing this point further when you are so clearly in the wrong because you haven't caught up with the current events and i've already claimed a provable town role. Not sure why I even respond to you cartman. And either prove it or stop yapping about your provable town role | ||
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Oat's What do you think of BH after spewed posts all over the thread? VE's disappearance is troubling he asked me for some my thoughts on Dramdred and then peaced out of the thread. @Liancourt is jrkirby your main scum read or do you still wanna lynch Misder? Speaking of Misder he's been afk for a while. Obi wan Whats your top scum read. Before it was BH. What do you think of him after his posting? | ||
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Cartman feels that Dramdred is probably town. But before Dramdred posted the notes he thought he was scum. And because Obiwan didn't think that Dramdred was scum when Cartman thought he was scum. That makes Obi wan scum. But what is the scum motivation of defending someone who in Cartman's point of view looked scummy but who he now thinks is a town. Scum would just go for the easy lynch of town and the thread sentiment. | ||
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On November 02 2014 17:14 Blazinghand wrote: who is cartman HF reference | ||
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I don't think I have ever been able to get a day 1 lynch I wanted before. AND ITS FUCKING RIGHT! I FUCKING LOVE THIS!! | ||
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On November 03 2014 12:14 liancourt wrote: lol misder 4 votes Yea whats going on with that Is this intentional or a mod mistake? | ||
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Risk,nuke was the main counter wagon I believe. Could it be possible that mafia have so little thread presense that possibly we had two scum up for lynch today? It sounds kind of far fetched even to me. I think he should not be taken off the docket tho. He said he would be available to post now so if he doesn't show up with his A game then he might be good to consider. | ||
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On November 03 2014 12:32 kitaman27 wrote: The final vote count is correct as far as I'm aware. Ok so there is definitely some vote manipulation going on. It is such an odd target tho. If someone who is town did it could you claim? | ||
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On November 03 2014 12:31 Holyflare wrote: Quite clearly intentional seeing as he typed it 4 times Oh sorry are you a mod? | ||
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On November 03 2014 12:40 Blazinghand wrote: man Damdred y u gotta h8 i voted LT and we'll get GB tomorrow BH whats going on with you. Do you think GB is scum or are you still going on about this RNG crap. | ||
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I do want a serious answer if that isn't clear. So if i understand you do actually think hes scum. But you also like the fact that he had RNG landed on him. What are your other scum reads? | ||
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On November 03 2014 13:59 ObiWanShinobi wrote: If you have an information role, check VE. If you're a vig, consider shooting him maybe. I don't like his filter at all. Telling blue roles what to do is so dumb. The funny part is its also self defeating. What you say will be less likely to happen as scum can see it too and would know who to protect. So blue is less likely to do what you want. Just let them do there thing and hope everyone uses common sense. | ||
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On November 03 2014 14:38 VisceraEyes wrote: And what the fuck is this shit? Are you even kidding me right now? Is this some kind of a sick joke? LOL i could see VE being 3rd party | ||
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On November 03 2014 13:25 jaybrundage wrote: Oats, VE what do you guys think of Circumstance? I know you posted him as null in your list. Anything to add beyond that? | ||
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On November 03 2014 16:08 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Alternatively you can shoot this guy because he is alive. ? No idea what your talking about here. | ||
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On November 04 2014 01:24 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Hf why are you such a piece of shit? Chill out. I know HF can be really frustrating when your trying to talk to him and its like banging your head against a wall. But we don't need to elevate to personal attacks. Just call him Cartman and make cracks at his ego. Use this for reference + Show Spoiler + HF you really believe that you haven't been misrepresenting me at all this entire time. Oh my god, Wait, I totally get it now. All this time I have been mad at you HF for trying to misrepresent me. But now I realize that your ego has made you believe that things happened differently, that's what Alakaslam was trying to tell me. That you have such a huge ego that you do these mental gymnastics so you don't appear wrong. I thought you were intentionally being thick. But now I realize that some people have egos that are so out of wack. That no matter what people tell them. They can't accept the truth of what actually happened. HF I realize now that you can't help but think you never made a mistake, Because your ego won't let you think otherwise. | ||
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On November 04 2014 07:45 Holyflare wrote: Yes jay ignore the actual game some more Bite me Cartman | ||
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On November 04 2014 07:53 ritoky wrote: you ever gonna post reads other than your random calling VE 3p? or you just gonna sit around trying to provoke HF some more when the guy is clearly town? I'll post my reads when im damn ready. You may think HF is town, I however have not yet reached that conclusion. Regardless of his alignment I hate how he posts. He manipulates information in a way that could easily lead to a mislynched townie. | ||
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On November 03 2014 10:31 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Above aimed at Oats. Also, I just read LT's reads list and you can fuck right off with that "I can't read him so he's town" nonsense. You know who did that last time? Hopeless. Also scum. Can you post the read's list that made you go from Null on LT to scum. | ||
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This is the post before I quoted it make note of the time stamp November 02 2014 11:39 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/TYy9NL9.jpg) !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Then after I quote the post the time stamp changes too November 03 2014 01:39 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/A45spjl.jpg) | ||
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Later saying that this post changed his mind just does not add up Would lynch day 2 ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/MAmyvoq.jpg) | ||
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I'm surprised you didn't mention his odd reaction to BH's RNG post. The biggest thing he has going for him is his giant filter. If as the game goes on and he stops posting and lets his content level drop it will be a big indicator he is probably mafia. | ||
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On November 04 2014 10:30 Alakaslam wrote: Chupazi Why all the stuff and pages, need not even think It is risknike Imagine a sloth eating carrots, yes this is me Why do you think its risk.nuke besides his inactivity that he said is IRL related. | ||
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On November 04 2014 10:13 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I already said why I missed it the first time: because I was working rush and I thought that Circumstance's ninja vote was a more important plot point. I glossed over it and thought it looked fine, but on closer inspection I realized it was a mafia post. It's not even like it matters though, because that's not why I voted Lt. Explain it to me then. Ok so you say you glossed over it before. But then later you look at it. And it was a "mafia post" Sure its a shit post but so are all of LT's other posts. Hell the one that you think is a mafia post had more content then half his filter. Why did this one change your mind about him so much? And now you say that this isn't why you voted LT. If I understand it was consolidation. But then bringing up this post later as "I know hes mafia because of THIS post" seems like scum trying to validate themselves. | ||
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The night kills seem a bit odd. BH main lynch target was GB it just feels off. I dunno know. I suggest no on gives there votes to Tirion. He could be scum or town and whats the point of giving your vote away to a unknown identity. We already have had a Town Kel'Thuzad. Don't be suckered in. | ||
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On November 04 2014 13:03 VisceraEyes wrote: Cool so we voting er?? ##Vote: Damdred YO VE STOP MAKING PORK CHOPS AND GIMME A CASE SON. no but srsly tho. you dont seem invested in this game. whats up bra? | ||
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On November 04 2014 13:08 Holyflare wrote: Well here i am claiming it outright....? So.... are you going to claim the rest of your power. Why should anyone give you their vote instead of using there own judgement and using their own gawd damn vote | ||
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On November 04 2014 13:11 VisceraEyes wrote: But you've been doing it before now, encouraging people to forfeit their right to vote, without telling them that they're giving their votes to you (presumably). I'm just saying, it felt underhanded and I didn't like it. So the Light can suck a D. VE now a proud sponsor of Sunny D Light | ||
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On November 04 2014 13:14 Holyflare wrote: A) i wanted to see reactions on who was willing to throw away a vote because town are increasingly likely to do so whereas mafia want the ability to do switches off of mafia B) i didn't particularly want to claim it's me for obvious reasons C) what i said before stands, you will all be sheeping me so this way i can practically become a mayor with a solo vote and avoid potential mishaps Rofl this post sucks. A) No, no one that is thinking critically about this game is gonna throw their vote to a unknown entity B) Either your being obvious and are claiming. Or you had no intention to claim. This is wishy washy bull shit C) You didn't start the LT wagon. The fact that you keep acting like you did is really dumb. Can you not stand on your two feet as a townie with out referring to the fact that you had a vote on Lord Tolkien every 2 minutes? C 2) The fact that you don't want people to think about what they are doing is sooo scummmy. If you have so much town sway you could just tell people what you wanted them to vote. Not use some dumb ponzi scheme. You scum HF? | ||
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On November 04 2014 13:23 Holyflare wrote: Jay you are a fucking moron. There is absolutely no way you sheep my obi read so aggressively that you make it a 2 way vote and also see i stopped the wagon switching off of LT and then go this full on retarded questioning the most stupid shit i have ever seen unless you're not thinking in a town like way aka not town. Rofl Way to dismiss my comments about your post and not respond to them. And if by me sheeping your obi read. That I looked at the evidence before me and came to my own independent conclusion using my judgement. Sure if that's what you call it. I call it playing mafia. I never said anything about the 2 way vote thing. How is it even relevant to your shit abc post. I may think differently then you. I am ok with that. | ||
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On November 04 2014 13:39 Holyflare wrote: "i saw all that information you posted about a guy being mafia and i am calling it my own free will but i mean it's totally my original thought" -jaybrundage + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://www.roguescast.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/youmadethisImadethis.jpg) Nice comic I'm assuming you made it? Can you stop dodging and respond to my original post? | ||
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On November 04 2014 13:46 Holyflare wrote: There's literally nothing to respond to they are all statements? Try. Ill lay it out for you. Your post was really scummy and it rung some red bells for me. I made a post with why I thought it was really scummy. Depending on how you respond to my statements will influence my read of you. If your town you get a chance to explain your post and show me (Why i was mistaken, What you actually meant, Whatever) I want to get a better read on you. I don't see what the problem you would have if your town. The fact that you kept dodging my post doesn't read well to me. | ||
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On November 04 2014 13:21 jaybrundage wrote: Rofl this post sucks. A) No, no one that is thinking critically about this game is gonna throw their vote to a unknown entity B) Either your being obvious and are claiming. Or you had no intention to claim. This is wishy washy bull shit C) You didn't start the LT wagon. The fact that you keep acting like you did is really dumb. Can you not stand on your two feet as a townie with out referring to the fact that you had a vote on Lord Tolkien every 2 minutes? C 2) The fact that you don't want people to think about what they are doing is sooo scummmy. If you have so much town sway you could just tell people what you wanted them to vote. Not use some dumb ponzi scheme. You scum HF? Ok so your responses are A) You think Town are MOST likely to not think critically. B) Your posts have been unclear before you said you get a power by sacrificing votes. But now your also saying you can control their votes. I'm assuming its both then? Why not just straight up claim and say hey if you think I'm town give me your votes and I get a power. You executed this terribly. C) You did not respond to either statement on C On November 04 2014 13:50 Holyflare wrote: Like how revealing are these answers going to even be?? Town are MOST likely to do it but it doesn't mean they will which is why i made it more and more obvious and eventually claimed. Obviously the power is going to be op if it sacrifices votes to empower me so why wouldn't i try for that? It also stops any mafia controlling a lynxh if i have the deciding vote. Contined from B) AND This is weird now all of a sudden your are saying Don't give me your votes? If there is no downside if your town. Why wouldn't you do it? Some power is better then no power. Why not get every possible vote you can get? I do not understand this at all. On November 04 2014 13:21 Holyflare wrote: Also i urge people not to donatw their votes now unless EVERYONE agrees because then we lose too much voting power and may not get a great ability with a little amount of votes | ||
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Congratulations Circumstance You just won first place in JB's "Get in here and start fucking posting contest."  YOU know how to play. So get in here! AND start FUCKING POSTING  Remember You only have a limited time till you DIE!! OH NO!! Better start posting  ##Vote Circumstance | ||
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On November 04 2014 14:24 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Meh, I'm leaving for the night. I guess I'll just ask some stupid question that's going to end in me dying anyway. Jb, why is it that you only started asking good questions when night was about to end and ended up not caring about the responses as soon as day broke? Why would you even bother asking them if you already made up your mind based on the fact that I scumread Lt off of a list post? I was reading thru your whole filter for a while. The time stamps changing threw me off track for a bit. And It did appear that you should of seen the LT list post. You even said you had seen it. But you glossed over it. You were focusing on two people I would think that a post that you think was straight up a Mafia post would of stood out to you more. You are free to respond to my questions still. After night 1 tho trying to figure out your alignment seemed like a waste of time because I am going to vote my self regardless cause I know I'm town. However IF you are in fact town.. Try to keep your head up mate. Keep posting your insight. Maybe you will see something we will miss. You can still help town win | ||
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On November 04 2014 14:41 ObiWanShinobi wrote: So if you made your mind up, why bother asking? It clearly wasn't a waste of time to you because you made this really pretty looking post right before night ended, which you never bothered to follow up on and never seemed to matter to you anyway because you already made your decision. Your going on the assumption that I engaged this... I was asking cause I wanted to try to discern your alignment. I posted my questions and didn't even realize that the night was over didn't realize they were gonna cut the night short an hour. After the Jarraxus thing came up in the day 2 post. It seemed like one of us was going to die regardless of whatever your alignment is. So I never bothered going back to the questions | ||
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On November 04 2014 14:55 ObiWanShinobi wrote: So you're not Jarraxus? What are you then? Dude aren't you the one that asked me not to claim? | ||
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On November 04 2014 14:59 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Yeah, well now I'm asking you to claim. Either you made up your mind about killing me today despite asking me questions near night end despite not knowing what Jarraxus was, or something antitown stuck us together. So claim. I am Jarraxus. I originally was planning to go for Circumstance but then HF made his case on you about the List post and it made me think you were more likely to flip scum. So I changed it. I had to have it locked in at night 1. I didn't realize night was going to end an hour earlier so I was still trying to find out about your alignment. From the way you reacted to this whole fiasco has made it seem that you might be town : / If so sorry dude. I fucked up. | ||
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On November 04 2014 14:19 Holyflare wrote: You are seriously boring. People SACRIFICE their votes in order to give me a POWER. Each towny that does it means we lose a potential town aligned vote so unless everyone does it and i can control the vote (by being the only non sacrificed voter left) there is no point. It's not rocket science. That sounds like the dumbest shit ever. So you basically are completely useless why even ask anyone to give tirion there vote then. If that is the case you should of been telling everyone to not empower tiron. ITS NOT ROCKET SCIENCE | ||
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On November 04 2014 15:15 Oatsmaster wrote: Jay completely doesn't understand what holy flare is talking about. Explain. | ||
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On November 04 2014 15:19 Holyflare wrote: Oh right no it just says the more votes you get the more powerful the ability will be If you get everyones vote you should just win the game | ||
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On November 04 2014 15:45 ritoky wrote: I am considering it, I have a hard time seeing you; and malfurion (who no one has cc'd) being mafia. Primarily, pardon my insult, because I have a hard time believing that 2 mafia were stupid enough to make a dumpster tier read (you) on damdred and then the other sheep that read for 0 reason (LT). Like that play just seems too bad for both of you to be mafia. I have a much easier time seeing jay's play yesterday as being mafia, as well as you know....a devil from the burning legion.... You guys see this shit Blatant Racism.  | ||
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On November 05 2014 07:07 risk.nuke wrote: You're free to ask me questions but you can knock that attitude if you choose to not and at the same time won't answer mine. Is it too much to ask you to be proactive? You said you were busy day 1 and because of that didn't do anything day 1.Ok now you have day 2 But its almost half over and you have yet to make a case or push a read. You stated you were a good player. Is this your idea of good town? You might get lynched today. Do you even care? | ||
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On November 05 2014 08:12 risk.nuke wrote: Yeah I care, I want to lynch oats. None of you seem to care though. You're all super content doing nothing aswell and lynching me because I was busy day1. What did you expect from me, a massive case. Most of what was said day 1 was useless and the rest is inconclusive. I want to talk and discuss things, I want to hear your thought and I have no problem giving you mine. This will actually give me information I can use. If you want to help me, you can start by telling me what you think of oats and jrjkirby who's being fishy as hell today. Yes I was expecting a decent case. Why wouldn't I you have been gone all day 1. You say you think Oats is scummy. Why the hell not go over his posts and show why you think that. We shouldn't have to coax your reasons out of you. You think Oats is scummy so make a case why you think so. I don't see why this wouldn't be the first thing you would be doing. Hell a good case is a great conversation starter. I think Oats is town. He doesn't make alot of big posts. But I agree with alot of his reasoning. He seems cool and confident and comes off as similar to his townie games. Now your turn. Why do you think hes scummy. | ||
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On November 05 2014 08:15 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Fwiw, TL seems to create scumteams with varied experience among the players on them; it's actually kind of likely that the scumteam has at least one of Oats/Hf/Ve on it. It's not the greatest analysis but that's what I got. Crossing fingers its HF. | ||
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On November 05 2014 08:23 ObiWanShinobi wrote: If you think it's Hf then why the fuck did you agree with his read on me and duel me? Well out of the three people you proposed HF is definitely the scummiest to me. It's also the fact that I WANT HF to be mafia. Cause it would be so sweet to lynch his ass. I don't know if you have ever played with Marv. But scum marv is the thing made of nightmares. He will play well. VERY WELL in fact he will play better then most town players who ARE actually town. HF feels in a similar vein. I have been getting scummy vibes from HF quite a bit. The biggest thing that probably makes me biased is that I hate how he responds to posts in an argument. He twists things. But that abc post by HF was terrible and super scummy. Seeing that makes me second guess my read on HF. His post on you was actually something that I thought was well put together and made him seem more townie. But then he does some scummy gimme your vote shit. I have been going back and forth on Null to scummy on HF this whole game. Also I told you why I changed from Circumstance to you. HF made a really good point about your filter. You were null on LT for the longest time. You were going between who to vote. You voted LT and then later on said he was definitely mafia off some post that was posted such a long time ago. I was going over it and it seemed much more likely that you were mafia. Hell you still could be and are just good at appeal to emotion. (Are you mafia? Cause if you are you made me feel really bad that I killed off a townie and YOU SUCK) But even now It is still a bad mark that you never explained. It was only the sincerity of your post and how you reacted to the secondary lynch that made me think you might be town. | ||
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On November 05 2014 08:48 ritoky wrote: If HF is mafia, then please explain why he was spamming the thread to stay firm on LT. And how do his actions surrounding lynching a mafia make him in any way more mafia than the other two? He would be bussing? I don't read Oats and VE town, because of there actions surrounding the lynch. Rather I read them town by how they are posting. | ||
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What do you think of his GB case? It was his recent big case. Why did you choose to exclude it from your case? Also I find it odd you say townies don't have a self preservation mind set. A town only knows his alignment. One of a townies biggest job is to prove there own townieness, and by extension not get lynched. | ||
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On November 05 2014 08:29 risk.nuke wrote: We were having a discussion, I pressured you and you ran away. Why didn't you answer me? Then you finally come back and then just tries to put down your vote on me. Jay http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/469686-hearthstone-mafia?page=104#2080 And oats is still not posting and showing no interest in finding scum. I said why I thought Oats was townie. Your statement can be applied to you as well. If you think Oats is scum why aren't you pushing for his lynch. From your post it seems like your lynching based purely on activity. Looking over him surprised he hasn't mentioned a a lynch candidate yet. Duly noted. | ||
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Your under no pressure to be lynched why drag this up. I was explaining to Obi wan my read on you and why I did what I did. To respond: I said anyone that is thinking critically would not give away their vote to an unknown identity. How you went about using your power. Doesn't make any sense to me as either alignment. I thought your ABC post was scummy. I said as much. Part of it was misunderstanding your power. | ||
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On November 05 2014 10:18 ritoky wrote: Tries to dismiss first half of case by saying "I wasn't here"; then turns around and accuses people on the grounds that they weren't here. Calls pretty much the most obvious town in the game mafia repeatedly. Ignores the 2nd half of the case against him. Doesn't even attempt to push a scum read on someone he had such a strong scum read on that he challenged him to a 1v1. This guy is clearly the better option for Oblivion. Nope I called out people for being afk first and then i said I wasn't around the third day in response to me not pushing LT. Oh and I still plan to do so. If you think that's hypocritical whatever. Who cares if I call out HF. If I see something scummy I will call it out. Sorry I don't have a raging erection for HF like you do apparently. What 2nd part of the case? I have explained what happened with Obi wan. I was alot more sure of Obi wan being scum last night. Was it a mistake to switch from Circumstance to him? We have yet to see. How he reacted to the secondary lynch seemed very sincere to me and made me think he might be town. I haven't pushed his lynch because I was leading the votes by a good margin. I have been trying to focus who we should be normal lynching today | ||
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On November 05 2014 10:36 Holyflare wrote: You ARE under pressure of being lynched, if it doesn't make any sense as any alignment why did you call me mafia abd are repeatedly calling me mafia. I responded avout everything to with that abc post that you asked me abd you still call me mafia. The fuck? Darn HF you got me I'm actually a host. What is not clear here. I thought you had a scummy post. So I called it out. Didn't you read the part about Marv. Just cause your not oozing mafia doesn't mean you can't have got a red PM. Maybe I'm just paranoid i dunno . Does it bother you that much that I have you on Null/Scummy? | ||
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So as possible town fighting isn't helping us figure out who we want to lynch today. I think we should focus on who can be lynched today. Risk,nuke is the biggest possibility with the most votes. The main points against him are that: He promised content. Didn't deliver with exception to him saying he thinks Oats is scum. He never produced a case didn't respond to me trying to talk to him about Oats. Blamed the Town saying its our fault he is up for lynch. Takes no responsibility for not being proactive and making a case. Or trying to show his townieness thru his actions. He just says this your fault town and lurks some more. Circumstance is someone I mentioned before. Another possibility for a lynch. He seems to often be mentioned as a lynch target but no one has voted for him. I tried to put some pressure on him to get more active. He responded to my post with this. On November 04 2014 15:35 Circumstance wrote: FFS. I've had a long few days, and I already got an activity warning. I'll be able to be significantly more active after tomorrow (the last day of my internship). Anyway, I'm feeling like the GB nightkill probably was at least in part an attempted a frame on me, since his analysis on me was pretty effective at painting me in a scummy light. I'll directly say that my Night 1 ability wound up being a bust, since nobody did anything to my target. He basically did the same thing risk,nuke has done. Stated he was busy for RL reasons. Promises activity later. That was his only post in D2 unless I'm mistaken. He is basically a straight up lurker. I really wish he would just get modkilled off for inactivity. Also in D1 he straight up stated he had no idea what he was gonna vote. He wanted reasons to get OFF risk.nuke but doesn't provide reasons why anyone is scum. Complete wishy wash scummy bull. He also brings up his schedule as an excuse day 1. Same thing he did day 2 I feel a pattern forming. On November 01 2014 10:47 Circumstance wrote: Do you want me to explain my schedule to you? I will if you want. As for GB's question, my current reads aren't strong enough to lay out on the table right now, and frankly, I don't know how much it matters at this stage. We've got some clear targets that are slowly beginning to get multiple votes placed on them. If we don't consolidate, we run the risk of a no-lynch, which doesn't benefit anyone. I don't WANT to lynch you right now, GB, because I'm not a fan of RNG and you keep discussions going. But before I place my vote on risk.nuke, I want to hear the argument against it, assuming there is one, to see if it holds water. Again I dont wanna lynch risk.nuke someone tell me not too. If he has a town read on risk.nuke. Then come out and say it! This feels like scum wanted a reason to get off scum. Ironic considering that LT was also scum. BUT keep in mind he never mentioned LT. On November 01 2014 09:42 Circumstance wrote: So, we have GB as a call for the D1 backup, and some people seem to be jumping onboard for risk.nuke. I've read the case for lynching risk.nuke, and I'm not yet completely sold. I don't have a solid read on him yet, so can anyone give me a reason we should lynch someone else INSTEAD of risk.nuke? Here I ask him a bunch of questions because up till that point he hadn't given any reads of any stability at all. It was like pulling teeth. The answers are still disappointing tho. He states he thought there was pressure on risk.nuke and he wanted to nail him down. But in his other posts he seemed to be looking for every excuse NOT to lynch risk.nuke. Says he thinks Oats might be scummy. Says we should get Cat on him. Doesn't seem to want to figure out Oats by him self at all. This is wierd he brings up LT and says he is just a placeholder. To me this feels like a soft defense. He makes it seem like LT is town and that people would be ok lynching him cause if hes town. Then its no big deal. BUT this wasn't the case. He even says people were planning to unvote him. Not sure where he got that notion. When I ask him who his lynch target is. He states basically IUNNO. Real help. He has posted less then Risk.nuke. But at the same time Defended LT and Risk.nuke on day 1. On November 01 2014 12:28 Circumstance wrote: I'll go over the questions first, since I need to do a proper filter runthrough before I go on with reads. I've been going mainly on instinct since I went to bed last night. I brought up risk.nuke because I noticed a push towards him, and given that I was assuming a majority requirement, I figured it would be pertinent to nail someone down quickly. Oats still feels like he's not really helping move things along. Holyflare's assessment of him mimics my thoughts to a certain extent. I think he's definitely worth an analysis, because he just doesn't seem to make sense right now. LT seemed like a placeholder more than anything - the rationale of voting seemed to be mainly "eh, no big loss if we're wrong." And I did see a few posts indicating that people were planning on unvoting him (though that evidently didn't wind up happening in the thread itself). If it were up to me, I had the power to off one player straight away, I wouldn't be prepared to do so just yet. I'm not seeing something I can put together and say "Yes, this player is definitely ideal to lynch today", so with the time we have, I'd like for us all to get a stronger case put together on someone. Dramdred is the third candidate. Alot of the suspection seems to stem from his use his power to extend the lynch. But self preservation seems not alignment indicative to me at least. Seuss posted a case on him. Here Something that hasn't been noticed before is how Dramdred was reacting to the Spat of VE HF. He seems to be egging it on a bit. But when it nears the end of VE practically rage quiting. Then he backs up and says dude relax chill out a bit I just want to under stand this. But it seems the opposite of what he was doing before. He also Fingers VE as being mafia in a few of his posts. But never calls him actually mafia. On November 06 2014 05:07 Damdred wrote: My god VE just answer us for gods sake, you went on a rampage and then completely went from HF IS SCUM GIVE US PARTNER to, i'm not sure hes mafia. So talk to us and help us sort through this, calm down if you have to step away you can. On November 06 2014 05:05 Damdred wrote: Oh shush you HF To continue i hit the post button a bit to soon, You say VE that town want to make a lynch happen. Most of hte time thats yoru top scum read right? I'm your top scum read, you should WANT to make my lynch happen like seuss is doing or did, you shouldn't just drop it in one sentence. On November 06 2014 04:49 Damdred wrote: VE if you are so sure that hf is scum why say that shouldn't you be pushing people to lynch the more dangerous hf? Looking over it all. I feel like Day 1 Circumstances play. Combined with his risk.nuke-esque excuse. Make him very possible to be mafia. Risk.nuke hasn't changed much and I would be fine lynching either one of them. Dramdred is kind of an outlier for me. I was more null on him Day 1. But his egging on of VE HF and lack of anything useful to say in regard to a lynch candidate makes me think he could very well be scum. ##UnVote Risk.nuke ##Vote Circumstance | ||
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I haven't been focusing on this because I felt that people should know that I'm townie by now. But seeing how the vote is still possible to swing I feel like I need to talk about it. I voted OWS towards the end of the night. My power was I could create a secondary lynch between me and another player. I had to pick a target before the end of the night or my power would be lost. I had originally going to go for Circumstance and was asking people about him. When the HF, OWS thing came up. I looked into it and came to the conclusion that OWS saying that he had LT as mafia AFTER the fact of him going back and forth between candidates and saying that a certian post made him think that LT was mafia that was several hours old and that he never mentioned previously struck me and very odd I saw no town incentive to do this. It looked very much like mafia trying to get cred of a wagon that they didn't seem to want to lynch before. OWS I had asked you questions before night ended. I don't believe you ever answered them could you do so now. I know I'm town. While Oats has been posting quite differently with this secondary lynch looming above us. There is still a good chance he's mafia using appeal to emotion. And I have no intention to be mislynched. | ||
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On November 06 2014 05:56 kitaman27 wrote: Please note that there is an error in the previous vote count. nuke should have 7 votes. Day 2 Damdred (1): Seuss, VisceraEyes (0): risk.nuke (7): VisceraEyes, Alakaslam, Holyflare, jrkirby, ObiWanShinobi, Circumstance (0): Alakaslam (0): Oatsmaster (1): risk.nuke Not voting (5): Misder, ritoky, Damdred, liancourt, Circumstance OBLIVION!!!! Jaybrundage (4): Alakaslam, ObiWanShinobi (6): Holyflare, Misder, VisceraEyes, liancourt, Jaybrundage, Oatsmaster Not voting (4): jrkirby, Seuss, Damdred, Circumstance Currently Risk.Nuke is set to be lynched, and ObiWanShinobi is to be sent to OBLIVION!!! Day 2 ends at Thursday, Nov 06 3:00am GMT (GMT+00:00) (in ) Voting is mandatory | ||
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Oats your folowing the thread. Why aren't you posting me. This thread is dead cause townies are letting it die. | ||
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On November 06 2014 09:25 ritoky wrote: i can't vote, my vote was given to the light. Any comment on what i posted? | ||
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On November 06 2014 08:52 Damdred wrote: Talk more about this if you will, So you had town vibes from ows day 1? Also talk mroe about the second bolded section, it doesn't add up going towards your vote. Why are you scum reading risk again? I'm not lying yo Well your right in his risk.nuke not making any sense giving what he typed. @Misder is this your only post in the whole second part of day 2. How could you don't try to post your thoughts or reads more? | ||
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On November 06 2014 09:36 Damdred wrote: This might sound insane, is it balanced for town to have two ways to manipulate the vote by adding votes? This just struck me generally theres a balance, its true I can take away a singular vote, but for instance Misder was able to add 4 votes by himself yesterday obi could of added some or subtracted three. Do you think town has two vote manipulators? Or am i just to paranoid here I have no idea. Never tried to balance a game or hosted one either. Mider mentioned getting a homing chicken from VE not sure if that was it might have been. | ||
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On November 06 2014 09:37 Oatsmaster wrote: I don't think you know what a dead thread looks like. Well I rather not find out by killing this one. | ||
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On November 06 2014 09:37 ritoky wrote: i think you're a more likely mafia target than OWS, have expressed it multiple times. i agree with you that oats is hanging back and it is suspicious, but i seriously can't read him to save my life. i think slam has done similar things this phase, toward the end of last day phase he had a burst of seriousness, he hasn't had it this time. he seems content lynching afks...which makes me doubt him a bit more. i think misder's post is a pile of crap. most if it is vague "feeling reads" we are 100some pages in, i expected something more. he also mentioned he felt intimidated; i don't like when people talk themselves down it feels bad to me. i also don't think risk is likely mafia. none of this matters though since i don't have a vote on that wagon. Just cause you cant vote doesn't mean you shouldn't give reasons to vote someone. Do you think circumstance has a higher chance to flip mafia? | ||
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On November 06 2014 10:14 Oatsmaster wrote: Im not down. No SH******* today. What are you opinions about Circumstance and Misder. Comon oats I WANT MORE. | ||
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On November 06 2014 10:20 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Are you fucking serious? I've been saying the same shit on repeat for the past three days and you STILL have no idea why I voted Lt? Are you actually mafia? Are you deliberately ignoring me? If you have been saying the same things to reply to a concern. But no one thinks what you have been saying make any sense. Then rephrase it. Explain it differently. Don't just try to show what the definition of insanity is. Oat's drop in activity is pretty concerning. I liked his day 1 alot better. | ||
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On November 06 2014 11:04 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I never voted Lt because of his list. I voted Lt because I was sure that killing both Lt and Circumstance would produce at least one scum. I never should have talked about the list. There was no way for me to parse through it properly during rush at work, but I got too excited when I saw some scummy-ass ninja vote pop up out of nowhere because that's easy information to process quickly. It's not even an important plot point because I never voted Lt for it. If I recalled correctly. It was that you had no idea of who to vote. Settled on LT. and then later used that list post as why you now totally knew LT was mafia. Even tho the List post was a couple hours old at that point. If you do end up turning up as town. Sorry dude : / | ||
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Dramdred what happened? Why didn't he lose his vote. On the bright side of things we got a replacement for Circumstance. Oats risk.nuke died and now he's haunting our ass. Who is your biggest scum read now? | ||
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On November 06 2014 12:40 Damdred wrote: Seuss looked really good today pushed a case no matter what people thought about it and tried to rethink his position and struggeled with it he looked realy towny through a lot of today. Jrkirby during night and when he was here looked ok he looked towny in some of the things he said today. I didn't know which to pick so i just let fate pick Rofl that reminds me in arkham asylum. Someone was Vigging and doing a terrible job and kept hitting town and just used a number randomizer. I think it was toad. | ||
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On November 06 2014 13:09 Damdred wrote: Lol I'm going to make it so that every 5 posts he makes hf has to post in poetic verse.... its so trolly If your gonna claim your power claim your entire power plz. Don't think you can copy paste but try to paraphrase everything it says in your PM. Why not attempt to your use your power to catch scum instead of random shit. Use it so that Misder has to post content every 6 hours or something | ||
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On November 06 2014 12:53 Holyflare wrote: why did you write a giant wall of text about damd/risk/circumstance and then end up voting OFF of all 3 of your scum reads and with your scum read damd? Because I wanted town to come out of the cracks and start posting about the lynch, It was really dead in here and 4 people had not even posted at that point in time. With all the scummy lurkers we have it almost feels like a carnival game trying to hit the lurker that's scum in between the scummy town lurkers. No one wanted to try to lynch Circumstance. I was trying to create a counter wagon with my Circumstance push to create more wagons to go on and make it so we had more things to analyze after the day ended. Seuss suggested Misder as a alternative Lurker lynch and as I have a decent town read on him I went with it. | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + On November 06 2014 13:20 jaybrundage wrote: Because I wanted town to come out of the cracks and start posting about the lynch, It was really dead in here and 4 people had not even posted at that point in time. With all the scummy lurkers we have it almost feels like a carnival game trying to hit the lurker that's scum in between the scummy town lurkers. No one wanted to try to lynch Circumstance. I was trying to create a counter wagon with my Circumstance push to create more wagons to go on and make it so we had more things to analyze after the day ended. Seuss suggested Misder as a alternative Lurker lynch and as I have a decent town read on him I went with it. | ||
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On November 06 2014 13:23 Holyflare wrote: so didn't you hesitate when a big mafia read damdred came out of the cracks and voted for him and you just afk'd??? Nope didn't hesitate. If you gonna do shenanigians. Ya gotta go BALLS TO DA WALL! Why do you think Misder is town? | ||
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- Jaybrundage has a scum read and posted a huge case on damdred, yet voted with him both times today. Danm you're right. If I had simply changed my vote to kill my self I could of solved this problem. | ||
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On November 06 2014 14:20 Holyflare wrote: like it really doesn't matter what you think lian we're confirmed town ~_~ unless we're both mafia TOGETHER which would be ridiculous given how town favoured ritokys powers have proven to be and also how we've been playing and how stupid it would be if we did that as mafia This is the image going thru my head. In mafia QT: HF (High as fuck): Dude like... What if like we were both really townie this game and claimed to be mod confirmed masons.... Ritoky (Also High as fuck): Duuuuuuuuuuuude... I think you just liked solved mafia man.... + Show Spoiler + Srsly tho If they said they got a Masoned together and mod said they are both town. I believe them | ||
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So it basically comes down to is OMGUS a valid point to think someone is scum. For the most case it would be an obvious no. But between certain players I think it might be a decent indicator. For instance If someone can usually read me as town but thinks I'm scum when I have shown all my town tells. It might make me suspicious of them. VE is kind of an example of this. He can usually read if I'm town and if he tries to mislynch me when I should be very easily readable by him. Then it might be an indicator that he's scum. Regardless tho if VE is inventor. We should be able to leave him alive and control his inventions. If he is scum then we would find out by him not making us good shit that we can direct to whom we want him to give it too. Last time we I have had a town inventor he seemed scummy So mafia let him live but he kept inventing decent shit and giving it to good standing townies. And it came to the point where scum had to take him out. I would suggest we do a similar strat. If VE is scum and inventor then we will find out eventually. | ||
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TBH I am surprised he hasn't been put under more pressure. I kinda have been skimming over his posts. OBW did said if we force him to he can post like a regular townie. So with that in mind. Alakaslam can you make a write up a case tonite. OR ELSE (Scary threat here) | ||
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On November 07 2014 04:43 Alakaslam wrote: Nope, have to have a scumread first Well list all the people you have a town read on. Or do one of those lists posts. So I can see where you stand on people. | ||
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On November 07 2014 07:52 Holyflare wrote: oats' power is nothing like ours was and he didn't really do anything, there's also some info i want to post right before deadline in regards to oats so stay tuned for that ve.... his power isn't very towny at all like 0 town ness He claimed inventor? From what I understand about it he can make shit and give it away to strong townies. What makes you say it isn't townie at all? | ||
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On November 07 2014 09:18 Holyflare wrote: how stupid would it be if i tell you at night time wtf?! Why would it matter? You said you have a vig protection thing PGO whatever. So you can say what ever you want. Also if you were bluffing it would be better to say it then die and then townie doesn't have any idea what your great revelation is. | ||
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On November 07 2014 10:03 Damdred wrote: targeting slam no pixtures/movies all posts over 100 characters. I can't read him well maybe it will help On November 06 2014 13:12 jaybrundage wrote: If your gonna claim your power claim your entire power plz. Don't think you can copy paste but try to paraphrase everything it says in your PM. Why not attempt to your use your power to catch scum instead of random shit. Use it so that Misder has to post content every 6 hours or something | ||
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On November 07 2014 10:49 Misder wrote: ##LEEROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOY JEEEEEEENKIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINS!!!! This outta be good | ||
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On November 07 2014 10:56 Oatsmaster wrote: post count is normally a pretty good indicator for slam actually. If he is posting relatively freely and semi-coherently, hes town. Wish you could of answered this question when i asked it earlier >.< | ||
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Dramdred He always seems to be someone people are suspicious of. But then it never really comes to an actually lynch. I found it weird that he was a big topic of discussion but he wasn't even a real lynch candidate compared to risk.nuke and LT. As I mentioned before I didn't like him egging on the spat between HF and VE. Also him randoming the negative vote seemed really scummy. The other possibility is he is just bad town. He seems to be a bit clueless in some aspects of how he should present him self. Unsure. Oats is someone who had a good day one as far as I'm concerned. Day 2 was weird him and risk.nuke were going at it a bit. Risk.nuke was convinced that Oats was scum. And Oats wanted to lynch risk.nuke just as much. When Misder was provided as an alternative to the risk.nuke lynch. Oats was strongly opposed to it. And currently in day 3 with all this role/set up talk Oats seems to be thriving but he doesnt seem to be adding much scum hunting. I think he should be a possible lynch candidate today. Misder is like the lurking 3p maybe? He almost got lynched with the shenagians on day 2. What's interesting to me. Is that after some votes were placed on him he started to start putting on content. But up till that point he had had a single post with mixed up reasoning on why he was placing a vote on risk.nuke and he seemed complacent in leaving his one post for his reasoning and waiting for the lynch to come around. In regards to his role as leeroy I had a couple comments on that. For the PM at least you have chicken. Still have chicken. IT MIGHT be a flavor thing (not leeroy's death quote) I was doing some research and also reading up on it. Useless role speculation yay + Show Spoiler + Apparently this wow player was doing a raid and everyone else died in his raid and he lived, possible 3p candidate @Misder Do you want us to try to lynch you again or would you prefer to provide content before that happens? Liancourt is someone that I don't even recall even looking at much. He is so forgettable and his filter is basically All one liners that don't seem to add much to the conversation. Day 1 I thought his questions were decent and he seemed interested in what was going on. But the problem is as the game has gone on the questions are comments seem to be the same. He doesn't make his own cases. I have never seen him have a disagreement with a player or a disagreement regarding reads. He just seems like sheep basically. And doesn't substantiate his own reads. Something to note here. While he displays alot of sheeping qualities he wasn't on LT's wagon. Now this could be irrelevant as when a wagon really gains speed mafia tend to jump in when they know it's a done deal but I thought it was worth mentioning. Very possible scum. Lie low, don't attract attention seems to be his MO. Very Possible scum. HF, Ritoky Our mod confirmed townies. What surprises me is that by now we don't have mod confirmed dead townies. I know that ritoky said he has a divine shield/ bulletproof vest and HF claimed PGO or whatever. But I don't recall Ritoky claiming a hit. Or Chairman Ray saying he was notified of saving HF. As we get closer to Lylo, Mylo whatever mafia need to kill off them. Or it makes it difficult for them to find mislynch targets. When we have 2 mod confirmed town. Whom are in very good standing with the town as well it makes it a mafia nightmare. With that being said If one of them doesn't die tonite I think we should reconsider them being "confirmed town" | ||
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And Chairman Ray if you missed it I previously claimed Jaraxxus and my day 2 power was a secondary lynch I had to lock in at night between me and someone of my choosing. I picked Obi wan shinobi who unfortunately turned out to be town. | ||
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On November 08 2014 09:54 Misder wrote: Sorry - can't really figure out this game rn. The PM basically said that my shot went through but I survived and that I've got a chicken. Honestly, I thought it was the way it was phrased (which I believe I can't actually copy and paste), though the more I think about it, the more I think the PM was just for flavor. Respond to my speculation of you. Also you never claimed what the hell the chicken VE gave you. | ||
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On November 08 2014 12:02 Damdred wrote: Here are some questions and observations for you, Why give someone a free pass for entering the game, he says he is going to catch up and is filter diving people but hes not really scum hunting per se hes trying to figure out peoples powers and has a claim thats the same as slams on the same night but that does not even enter into your list post. Why do you ignore that fact? Why don't you pressure CR hes a good player in his own right to give reads? Why give him such an easy free pass. Your read on Oats is shoddy to say the least, your saying that because risk said oats was mafia we shoudl believe him? Oats was correct in saying that people should of stayed on risk.nuke he was a huge question mark, so was misder at the time as well, there really wasn't much scum hunting to do at the points where oats was talking since they were talking about different claims and trying to figure out what was the truth. Why does that make him scum and the lynch today? Lian hasn't done much of anything all game. What good questions did he ask d1? What do you think of him saying i'm his top scum read but 24 hours past day start he hasn't even mentioned me? I think your post on me is bad, I have been bad power wise but calling me bad town I think is wrong. I've at least tried to put cases forward and try to talk things, I pressured VE I did not eg on a fight ty very much. (Chairman Ray) Simple he just got into the game. To expect him to read the entire 150 ish pages of the thread and expect him to have insights into people's play when in contrast we have been here gradually absorbing it all over the course of the entire game is unrealistic and foolish. If we give him a chance to catch up and also be able to observe people in real time about 5 IRL days totally assuming he lives the night. Then hopefully he can meaningfully contribute. If he was mafia wouldn't his team give him a rundown of what happened and a good counter claim list. Also it could be true we do in fact have 2 town watchers. What would stop that from happening? I don't mind pressuring people. I just don't think he should be on the docket today. We have alot more info on alot of other lynch targets. Oats was incorrect in saying we should stay on risk.nuke. Because risk.nuke was town. If Misder is scum and we had lynched him would you be giving me this same spiel, about how we should of killed town risk.nuke instead? (Rhetorical question) I suggested Oats as a possible lynch because he is someone I had a town read previously but who lately I feel may be scum. Sometimes scum aren't terrible to the point of being obvious. His play today consisting of roles/set up isn't terrible. It just isn't what I would expect from him. I would think he would follow it with some kind of conclusion and a push to lynch someone. (Lian) I recall thinking he seemed invested in the game day 1 and was asking questions. That hasn't been the case recently. I find it scummy as hell that he hasn't pushed you when your his top scum candidate. I also find it odd that he has never been mentioned before as possible scum. I think part of it was him just lying low all the time. Which as we go on is appearing more and more scummy. As we approach lylo we need people to be forward about there views. We can't have anyone just following the crowd just because cause it lets scum blend in. Dramdred alot of confirmed townies seemed to think you have been scummy. Maybe its not a conspiracy and you can improve your play if in fact you are town. | ||
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On November 08 2014 12:32 Damdred wrote: Ritoky is correct you ar emissing the best parts of this day in your analysis, it almost seems like you are contributing without doing so. And what was your new power after dueling obi Didn't get a new power. On November 08 2014 12:33 ritoky wrote: I really dislike that jayb post, it doesn't arrive anywhere....it just says maybe we should lynch 4 people....seems really non-committal. HF do i have confirmation bias on jayb? Rofl yea dude, no kidding, there is no conclusion. I wanted to inject the thread with some stuff I have been thinking about and turning around in my head and hopefully bounce some ideas off of people as well. After set up and role talk no one seemed to get back to scum hunting on the merit of someone's posting. Instead it was hoping scum misstepped in claiming or WIFOMING what role should go with what alignment (Ritoky....) If you want the TLDR version tho I think Misder/Lian would be the better lynches today. Part of that depends if Misder claims 3p or not. (can he do that?) On November 08 2014 12:50 ritoky wrote: As opposed to slam who theorized that me and risk were mafia together with LT, placed his vote early in the phase on risk, and just afk'd the phase away? Why are you so harsh on oats but not slam? | ||
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On November 08 2014 12:50 ritoky wrote: As opposed to slam who theorized that me and risk were mafia together with LT, placed his vote early in the phase on risk, and just afk'd the phase away? Why are you so harsh on oats but not slam? (Posted before I was done) I only asked someone to vig Alakaslam. Not harsh at all amirte? To reiterate Oats is someone that has quite a few town reads. But his play hasn't been rock steady town play either. Because of that he would be in a good position if hes mafia. Sure he could be town, but considering alternative possibilities is usually a good way to go | ||
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On November 08 2014 13:10 Oatsmaster wrote: CR is smoking some shit. I dont know what the fuck his scumread on Misder is. PURELY FROM ROLE SPECULATION ##vote CR I hate you Oats lol | ||
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On November 08 2014 13:47 Holyflare wrote: Sorry guys having a few issues irl atm so can't really do much. Not had any sleep in like 50 hours Don't be a quitter im sure you could do at least another 20 | ||
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Is it just that there are two watchers? I believe slam was the other one if memory serves. Why not slam scum CR town? | ||
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On November 08 2014 16:03 VisceraEyes wrote: Yo fuck you Holyflare I'm lynching Damdred today. ##Vote: Damdred What makes Dramdred a better lynch then the others? | ||
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On November 08 2014 12:50 ritoky wrote: As opposed to slam who theorized that me and risk were mafia together with LT, placed his vote early in the phase on risk, and just afk'd the phase away? Why are you so harsh on oats but not slam? Do you think Slam is scum? | ||
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Gonna make my own gawd damn party. With black jack and hookers. ##Vote Liancourt | ||
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On November 08 2014 16:39 Holyflare wrote: Nuuu lian is a bad lynch and wtf why don't you want to kill a 3p and remove a whole kp?? Iunno last time I played with 3p I remember town didn't want to waste a lynch on them. He Could win with town possibly tho right? Granted its unlikely | ||
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Thats the point :D Pff your not tired enough. When you get really tired you hit a stage when shit is hilarious that would normally never be funny. The drunk tired stage Its a good stage your missing out. | ||
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On November 08 2014 16:42 Holyflare wrote: Yes killing 3p is bad generally unless that 3p is a serial killer which is very likely here Iunno he seems to have only killed that one time with leeroy. | ||
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Lol that reminds of today in league. I was support and Maokai was our jungle Maokai: Leona ward more the map is dark. Leona: Your face is bark Tristana; lol | ||
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On November 08 2014 16:58 Holyflare wrote: Like wtf are you saying here??? Where does extra kp come from n1?they killed both gb and bh????? I don't know but why would Misder use his power night 2 and claim it with leeroy. But then kill someone on night 1 and not have to claim it doesn't make sense. | ||
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On November 08 2014 17:04 Holyflare wrote: To look towny when he was under a lot of suspicion..? What? Yo imma kill this guy that my town persona thinks is bad town but might have a slight chance of mafia and instead ignore my other scum read and go on my gut instinct. Then ill be really vague about how I actually used 6 kp and they come back at me and how i should be dead but i am still alive and have no idea why. I think it has something to do with this pm about chicken that could be mod flavor or maybe i got a chicken item so the host decided to keep me alive for the hell of it. That'll show them that I'm townie for sure. *Swings arm with a confident lopsided grin on his face* | ||
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On November 08 2014 17:08 jaybrundage wrote: What? Yo imma kill this guy that my town persona thinks is bad town but might have a slight chance of mafia and instead ignore my other scum read and go on my gut instinct. Then ill be really vague about how I actually used 6 kp and they come back at me and how i should be dead but i am still alive and have no idea why. I think it has something to do with this pm about chicken that could be mod flavor or maybe i got a chicken item so the host decided to keep me alive for the hell of it. That'll show them that I'm townie for sure. *Swings arm with a confident lopsided grin on his face* I think i just convinced myself that Misder is not 3p | ||
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On November 08 2014 17:07 Chairman Ray wrote: I'm guessing mafia have 1kp, but abilities that grant them kp. Makes sense considering that ritoky and I both block kp. That makes sense. | ||
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On November 08 2014 17:08 jaybrundage wrote: I think i just convinced myself that Misder is not 3p Or at least not a 3p that shot someone n1 | ||
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On November 08 2014 17:12 Holyflare wrote: Like you can't possibly be thinking that because there's 2 nights and 1 of those nights the kills don't make ANY sense whatsoever at all coming from a single mafia faction. Like 0 sense at all. Then there's night 2 where misder is a claim for 1kp and mafia the other. Where are you getting all these random facts about mafia having extra kp from??? Your misder 3p theory doesn't make any sense either. And if your so convinced he's 3p why aren't you lynching him instead of CR. | ||
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On November 08 2014 17:19 Holyflare wrote: I wasn't aware the lynch had already occured? Oh yeh because it hasn't. My vote location is irrelevant until the lynch. Your vote usually shows who you intend to lynch. Don't get snippity with you over tired Brit. Something something Freedom. Something something American Revolution. Something something MURICA!!!!!!! | ||
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On November 08 2014 17:23 Holyflare wrote: Like you're just speaking FOR misder and his thought process which you don't have any clue on whatsoever. He may have read kirby as blue, that in fact should be his probable read if its slightly scummy/bad town. His explanation of his power at the time was definitely seemingly in reference to the homing chicken from ve which made no sense at all, i also dunno how many times i have to say mafia are normally given fake claims for this kind of stuff. I was attempting to paraphase On November 08 2014 06:10 Misder wrote: I killed jrkirby since I just had a nagging feeling that he was scum, even though I guessed he was bad town, I didn't want scum to get away with that excuse if it is. Again, I felt like I could have been posting the way he did if I was mafia. I didn't kill Circumstance because my main reason that he was mafia was that he has not been here, but he got replaced so I didn't want to kill someone that maybe just didn't have time to read the thread. I was considering a damdred shot even though I had a town read on him because there was speculation about him- but in the end I went with my gut read. | ||
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On November 08 2014 17:27 Holyflare wrote: There's many more uses for a vote than what you say. No come back to my American Revolution point, I see. Check and Mate. I bid you Good Day Sir. | ||
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In that case you would subscribe to CR's theory that they have 1kp and other abilities as well For extra KP? | ||
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On November 08 2014 17:37 Holyflare wrote: No. There is almost 100% a 3p with the n1 kills, aren't you reading? No, I can't actually read. I do impress myself with how well i can carry on a conversation on the computa tho. + Show Spoiler + Before you say it: MURICA EDUCATION! So where do you think this 3p went on n2? | ||
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On October 31 2014 13:23 Mr. Bigglesworth wrote: ![[image loading]](http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140724225014/hearthstone/images/a/a5/Bigglesworth.gif) Meeeeeeeow! I, Mr. Bigglesworth, the Supreme Feline, was summoned by my master Kel'Thuzad to help with the annihilation of the Horde. I will use my profound wisdom to analyse a player of your wish every 23 hours cycle. To vote for a player to be analysed, use the format ##Analyse: Player in this thread (not in the vote thread). The most voted player will be analysed. You can only vote once. Purr purr purr. Btw guys I think I know why the cat died. I said no one could read me. It probably blew a fuse trying to analyze me. #BestMislynchNA #StupidCat #Thisisn'teventwitter #HFCartman'sEnglishdouble #TLMafia ## On November 01 2014 13:11 jaybrundage wrote: Ha I'll show you no one can read the Best Mislynch NA MWAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAH+ Show Spoiler + 3rd noob claim | ||
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On November 08 2014 17:51 Holyflare wrote: Either misder on kirby, bear in mind we've alread had a d5 vig flip and he was only 1kp after 5 cycles! this is 6 whole kp in n2!!! AND the downside was either bs or blocked by something that shouldn't be a block ?? You never presented an alternative. | ||
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##Unvote liancourt ##Vote Misder | ||
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On November 09 2014 10:57 Holyflare wrote: He didn't mason me we shared the same bond of blessing of wisdom Sounds kinky | ||
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On November 09 2014 11:02 Holyflare wrote: What the fuck you spent all night telling me how it wasn't true last night? Whats it? | ||
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On November 09 2014 11:06 Holyflare wrote: I remember rambling about how misder wasn't town and you repeatsdly telling me that he probably wasn't mafia or 3p and even quoted yourself to emphasise how correct you were No you're not allowed to paraphrase me. I refuse to argue with you after you paraphrase me. Get quotes. | ||
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On November 09 2014 11:09 Holyflare wrote: Why do i have to work when it's so obvious what I'm talking about Cause your the one bothering me about it. | ||
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On November 08 2014 17:11 jaybrundage wrote: Or at least not a 3p that shot someone n1 | ||
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On November 09 2014 11:17 Holyflare wrote: Like i don't understand ANY of these nk combos coming from mafia, are we even in the same game?? Trying to understand the reasoning behind mafia kills. *chuckles* WIFOM MORE NOOB | ||
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I say Oats isn't doing what I expected and you say im scummy for casting suspicion on Oats. Misder is up for lynch but you keep throwing shit at the lynch. While not pushing your own scum read. Now your throwing suspicion on Oats but doing it in such a weird way. Do you think Oats is scum/3p. I don't get what your doing towards the end of the day. Why aren't you pushing your top scum read? | ||
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On November 09 2014 11:22 Holyflare wrote: No mafia kills aren't wifom wtf. How much mafia have you even played Trying to understand mafia kills isn't WIFOM? So like if Seuss thinks Dramdred is scum. And Seuss dies. Saying Seuss died because Dramdred is scum and wanted to get pressure off him. That isn't WIFOM? | ||
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On November 09 2014 11:27 Holyflare wrote: That is wifom but when have i ever made a read like that at all??? Annnnd that brings us back to this quote. /end discussion On November 09 2014 11:19 jaybrundage wrote: Trying to understand the reasoning behind mafia kills. *chuckles* WIFOM MORE NOOB | ||
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Like I'm kinda of mad at misder. Town agreed on everyone role claiming and he doesn't even do a full role claim... | ||
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On November 10 2014 09:15 VisceraEyes wrote: I still wanna lynch Damdred. Do you think ritoky could be right and maybe oats is scum? | ||
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On November 10 2014 10:23 Holyflare wrote: ok we totally should 100000% lynch this guy now The hyperbole is real. CR take pictures of the steak > Post in thread > ???? > Profit. VE has show this process to be true with Pork Chops. I'm sure the necessary steps of steak are similar. | ||
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Dramdred takes to scummy to be scum to an extreme. I really don't know what to do with him. BTW didn't Alakaslam claim a vig shot last night? | ||
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On November 10 2014 12:53 VisceraEyes wrote: That's a lot of carriage-returns there typewriter man. Why you editing your posts so hard son? Hm. What's that son. I didn't hear you. You Know grandpa's hearing ai d don't work so well and this Damn Typewriter ,, Don' t Work as it used too Love Grandpa Brundage Xoxo | ||
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The other thing is I can't see him and Dramdred being scum. It just doesn't make sense for me. | ||
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On November 10 2014 12:57 ritoky wrote: I would like an explanation of your late vote. I stated I would be happy to lynch between Liancourt and MIsder. i decided earlier in the day to put my vote for Liancourt because I thought Misder might be 3p and it is usually best not to lynch 3p's. But after talking with HF and CR it seemed unlikely that 3p was an option for Misder. So that left the possibility of mafia. My Liancourt vote got no traction for a possible lynch So instead of staying on Liancourt for no reason. As well as my preference not to lynch CR cause I didn't think he had enough time to catch up and contribute. I voted for Misder who I thought had a good chance of flipping mafia and whom no longer seemed like a possible 3p | ||
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On November 11 2014 04:06 Holyflare wrote: Like we're great medic saves and have had abilities to protect ourselves and also a martyr saved us so you're saying mafia is going to blindly shoot into us in a closed mass themed setup when they ABSOLUTELY need the nk's or they are just going to shoot peripheral towny looking people? | ||
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Also Lian was not a weaker read at the time of me voting him. Why the hell do you think I would vote for a weaker read at the beginning of the day. I only changed to Misder who I stated was another scum read of mine previously. As well as me wanting to consolidate to make sure scum couldnt control the lynch as it was very close. Like VE has been crawling up your ass the whole day. And after scum reading him pretty hard. You then decide because he keeps pushing you that he therefore can not be scum. What the hell is that about. You did the exact same thing with GB. But here is the weird part when you feel that no one is going to lynch VE you back off and say how's hes town. With no other reason besides the fact that you can't lynch him/get him out of your face. But because I have been reevaluating my reads and thought that perhaps you might not be scum. You turn around and start calling me scum. It feels like you just want to make up reads. You just want to stick a read on someone and don't have any real substance or thought behind your reads. On November 11 2014 12:22 Damdred wrote: Also looking through Jays filter his scum read on me seems to evaporate during day 3 I believe, i make all of his scum lynches but he has no trouble voting with me each day to some point. Then at one point he even asks this to VE He'd been scum reading me for a couple cycles but then jumps on his weaker lian read never pushes it and seems ok voting with me at that point then hops to misder. Also his filter was primarily established d1, his play d2 onward has been really spotty and lurky. His yolo duel with obi still has a few problems with it, he was suspicious of hf and always scum read circumstance but trusted a case on obi that could of went either way. His power was somewhat anti-town and hes just skirted by since then doing bad lynch posts and jumping about in the votes. Between Liancourt and Dramdred I feel like there is one scum. I think I have been wrong about it being Liancourt. Dramdred 's weird as fuck power on VE in regards to taking away his vote. As well as throwing scum reads on whoever he feels he can get away with it on. Throwing a scum read on me just because I am not pressuring him. WTF is that? His complete backing off of VE for no reason besides the fact that VE wanted to lynch him and he couldn't get a lynch on VE feels so scummy. VE I got you bro. ##Vote Dramdred | ||
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HF, VE, Ritoky, Do you think its possible maybe liancourt and Dramdred have just been bussing each other with no intention to do anything about it cause they both don't have alot of thread sway? And that would maybe make the scum team Chairman Ray, Liancourt and Dramdred? | ||
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Because when I really push someone to be lynch I usually end up tunneling and it ends up hurting town. | ||
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On November 12 2014 12:23 Alakaslam wrote: But that was my original theory once that made no sense I abandoned it. Sure i didn't announce it but what, was my opinion considered important? HEY? lol I was right so many times lol I wanted to lynch HF the whole game but no one wanted to help me ; / | ||
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On November 12 2014 13:28 WaveofShadow wrote: Waste them like in fucking Catastrophe? ALso jay I have a HUGE scumtell on you  GL playing with me next time  WP people, kita basically said anything/everything I could have hoped to. Sorry for dropping the ball on vote counting stuff later in the game, kita/geript you two rock. aw comon now you gotta say. Is it cause I bus my teammates like hot cross buns | ||
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On November 12 2014 23:26 marvellosity wrote: You throw hot cross buns under buses? You attack them verbally? You string hot cross buns up at dusk? Wait isn't that what people normally do with hot cross buns? Have I been doing this wrong this whole time? *Gasps in horror* | ||
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On November 12 2014 23:35 WaveofShadow wrote: Haha jay pls. No way will I tell you. The bussing in general this game was so silly though. I wonder how you can really capitalize on this as town without really knowing that it's a bus. There are certain ways of differentiating between a town tunnel and mafia bus I suppose but they're kinda subtle. Also what happened to your streaming career? Haven't heard anything more from you on it. Pfff I just think your just gonna end up mislynching me if we ever playing again securing my spot once again as BEST MISLYNCH NA. In regards to streaming I tried to get off stream and failed. My ping can sometimes be shaky so it can throw me off still not sure how to solve this problem with only 5 upload. But just gonna try to get used it it. I guess. | ||
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On November 12 2014 23:50 Holyflare wrote: Not particularly. Lian wasn't participating in any of the game but still commenting on things 10 hours behind and was totally different from all his town games (even damd brought this up and nobody was interested) and jay... Was calling the guy whose reads he had sheeped all game mafia while still following all of those reads and also siding with all his mafia reads to push mislynches Dude I was on LT first. Way before you. You followed after me on that one. Second for Obi wan. What you said made sense and my town persona was convinced because I couldn't refute it. And your misrepresenting thing is still scummy as fuck. | ||
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On November 13 2014 00:50 Damdred wrote: Also hindsight of course, it really annoyed me when we could of killed lian instead of misder and hf said shouldn't be the lynch and right hwne i'm trying to get people on lian. He says no we lynch misder, and then jay jumps to misder in one of the scummiest vote jumps ever. How was it scummy Lian and Misder were both scum reads for me. Ritoky asked me why i switched I gave my reasoning and no one brought it up again. | ||
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On November 12 2014 23:43 WaveofShadow wrote: 5 upload isn't that bad. I used to stream with even less than that and made it work. You just have to sac a little quality. Yea I guess I feel if I drop the quality to low no one would want to watch. Me included. | ||
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On November 13 2014 03:52 Blazinghand wrote: I actually am interested to know what scum thought when I got shot instead of misder, since they never talked about it in the QT. Were they worried about a vigi or did they realize I was a bodyguard TBH HF was doing some weird shots. He kept switching on think on the basis of making them seem random or trying to make it appear that we had 1 shot instead of two. Can anyone comment on this. I wasn't sure if that was the best play. It worked out but I'm wondering what peoples opinions are of how shots should best me carried out in general | ||
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On November 13 2014 07:31 ritoky wrote: i disagree with this entirely, and take a lot of offense to this comment. i knew full well what i was doing accepting HF's assertion. yes it ended up backfiring on me, but he agreed with my case that lynched mafia day 1 so i was willing to take the risk for a while. like i said if it was 4 or 3 with HF alive, i was lynching HF 100% of the time; i had already made the conscious decision. you shouldn't talk shit and underestimate players. it was that same line of thinking that had 0 people listening to my reads that were 80% on mafia almost all game. Yea I thought you had said you knew he wasn't mod confirmed but went with it anyway. I don't know if you realize this. But from my perspective at least. Part of the reason that Town wasn't listening to you was that you set up HF to be MOD CONFIRMED town. That means the he is TOWN FOR SURE 100%. And as he also is (presumably) a good town player and therefore people followed his lead. And as he was leading town astray with mislynching people. The thread had trouble saying hey that's scummy or HF might be scum. Because you as someone who also looked townie gave him your credence and therefore made it less likely that people would call out HF on being scummy. | ||
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On November 13 2014 08:37 VisceraEyes wrote: OH JESUS FUCKING CHRIST YOU EVEN KNEW HE WASN'T MOD CONFIRMED AND YOU DIDNT TELL US?!?!?!?!? FUCK YOU RITOKY! FUCK YOU! Rofl VE. Yea I was surprised there was not more comment on this. It was the biggest thing that helped mafia for sure. | ||
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On November 06 2014 13:39 jaybrundage wrote: ritoky- So is it mod confirmed that you and HF are town? | ||
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