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On November 06 2014 04:39 Seuss wrote: I have no problem with you asking HolyFlare a question. I have severe problems with you saying you weren't around when you were, and using HolyFlare as an excuse for ignoring your own top scum read. HolyFlare is not the be all and end all of the game, why is his disagreement enough to dissuade you from even trying? It's not about Holyflare, it's about the idiot townies who are blindly sheeping him. I don't think Holyflare is really even all THAT good at the game, just really good at posting a lot and confidently. Add to that the fact that he just lynched mafia, and opposing his lynch is just bad play no matter WHAT you think my alignment is. I'm not ignoring Damdred, but I'm not going to try and push a Damdred lynch at a time when someone I'm trying to work with amicably is stating in very clear terms that he's townreading the guy. Like, this isn't fucking hard. | ||
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On November 06 2014 04:40 Holyflare wrote: Like you're saying "omg you're scum cz your only reason for pushing risk is afking like you just said hur dur" but you aren't actually using anything i'm saying in the context i'm saying it in. You have ONLY ONLY ONLY pushed the lurkers. I've pushed obi, jay, now you, risk/circ, questioned a lot in mason chats. I'm realising that this wagon is scummy as fuck because nobody is talking about anything other than risk being afk and the whole day is a stalemate about it while he continues to just push oats (who isnt actually that awful of a target for risk to talk about) and afk But that's not even true! He's been doing scummy shit all game - like appearing from the ether when he's mentioned and shit. ITS ALL DOCUMENTED IN THE THREAD! HES NOT JUST AFK, HE IS SCUMMILY AFK! | ||
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On November 06 2014 04:43 VisceraEyes wrote: It's not about Holyflare, it's about the idiot townies who are blindly sheeping him. I don't think Holyflare is really even all THAT good at the game, just really good at posting a lot and confidently. Add to that the fact that he just lynched mafia, and opposing his lynch is just bad play no matter WHAT you think my alignment is. I'm not ignoring Damdred, but I'm not going to try and push a Damdred lynch at a time when someone I'm trying to work with amicably is stating in very clear terms that he's townreading the guy. Like, this isn't fucking hard. | ||
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On November 06 2014 04:49 Damdred wrote: VE if you are so sure that hf is scum why say that shouldn't you be pushing people to lynch the more dangerous hf? I'm not sure HF is scum, I'm sure that he's being really really bad at the game right now. I SUSPECT that he's scum, but frankly it's based on him scumreading me and that's never a good reason. | ||
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On November 06 2014 04:51 Seuss wrote: jaybrundage didn't give a damn what the "sheep" thought. Why should you? Why are you so concerned about the consequences of opposing the guy who lynched mafia? Why are you suddenly so unconcerned that you're going all-in callling him scum? Because it's all coming to a head now, when the lynch is on the line. That stinks of mafia pushing an agenda. Like, if you think I'm mafia then you've got to come up with some reasons because the ones you're providing now A) don't make me mafia and B) are easily explained. I care because I care about getting a good lynch in. AT the time I was pretty sure HF was town right? And if HF is town and I'm town then I have to be concerned about not just our votes but the votes of everyone else in town. And if HF is against a Damdred lynch, then me pushing a Damdred lynch A) doesn't get me what I want and B) makes me look bad (because I'm opposing someone who just lynched scum) so why would I do that regardless of alignment? If I'm mafia then I don't want to draw attention to myself and if I'm town then I want to make a lynch happen. It doesn't say ANYTHING about my alignment, what you're spewing right now, and I've explained it from my (townie) perspective. You're free to believe or disbelieve that, but to get me lynched you're going to have to either convince everyone else or bring some other more convincing points to bear. | ||
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On November 03 2014 05:40 VisceraEyes wrote: I didn't, but it's literally hilarious that you popped in to say that. LMAO. On November 03 2014 05:50 risk.nuke wrote: How is it hilarious. I've already told you that I am following the thread. I didn't really see a point to popping up a couple of times to say I'm to busy to do much today. The abillity was pro town. The way you used it was so not. On November 03 2014 06:00 Alakaslam wrote: And it is hilarious ##votes risknike This is what I'm referring to. Slam was present one of the times I caught risk popping into the thread to toss shade on anyone mentioning him. | ||
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I'm Gelbin Mekkatorque, I invented a homing chicken on D1 and gave it to Misder. No idea what it does. I invented a Poultryizer D2 and gave it to HF, I have an idea of what it does. Nothing anti-town. Good luck fuckers. | ||
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On November 06 2014 05:07 Damdred wrote: My god VE just answer us for gods sake, you went on a rampage and then completely went from HF IS SCUM GIVE US PARTNER to, i'm not sure hes mafia. So talk to us and help us sort through this, calm down if you have to step away you can. Yes because a flip in mindset like that comes from mafia ALL the time. You know, mafia who are concerned about appearing consistent and shit. Fuck you Damdred. | ||
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On November 06 2014 05:09 Damdred wrote: No theres still time for VE to calm down come back and really help us figure out the lynch. You can say all the mean words in the world to me VE but I still want you to play and calm down. I've been doing that. All. Game. I've been trying to figure out good lynches. All. Game. Like, I'm JUST NOW saying fuck this and going away. JUST NOW! I haven't done that before now, I never "gave up" trying to find a good lynch when I voted risk.nuke as evidence by my filtering and subsequently scumreading Circ. I DID say that I wanted to lynch risk first, but from my perspective I've had reason to believe he's mafia since DAY FUCKING ONE! Anyone saying I only wanted to push risk because he's a lurker is a fucking LIAR or is FUCKING WRONG. | ||
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On November 06 2014 05:11 Holyflare wrote: look i can back off of you but i'm just questioning inconsistencies from what you are writing in the thread to what you are now saying your thought process is, it's not omg how can he think i'm mafia fuk u scum is it? Yes, you're literally just paraphrasing posts I make now as if I were scum the way you do when you're certain someone is scum. Fuck you Holyflare, you don't get to back off it now. | ||
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On November 06 2014 05:15 Damdred wrote: I'm not saying you only wanted to push risk because he's a lurker at all, I believe there is actually a good reason to scum read him for promises broken and unable to give reads in the thread which has already been discussed before. But I don't think he was your top scum read going into the day and pointed out a couple things in your post, I just want you to calm down come back and decide if risk shoudl be the lynch today or if we should look somewhere else, and if we should send jay or obi off today. risk IS the lynch today. I've made that quite clear, in fact gone so far as to say that anyone who is voting for risk is claiming mafia if they unvote risk. And we send off Obi today imo, I've been townreading Jay all game. I could be wrong, but Jay is aware of his "Best Mislynch NA" meta and I don't think as mafia he 1v1's like anyone in the thread. | ||
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On November 06 2014 05:23 ritoky wrote: So do you think Obi is scum then? Or is it solely because of your read on jay? It's based solely on my townread of Jay. Obi MIGHT be mafia - HF did the whole catching him in a lie thing which he still denies, it still looks bad to me. Also there was the bit about him throwing shade on me during N1 for no reason, only to back completely off when the pressure was on him D2. Obi is the better bet for mafia, so that's where my vote is. | ||
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On November 06 2014 05:28 ritoky wrote: What about the nature of the power itself. Challenging someone to a 1v1 and giving an extra lynch. Do you think that is clearly town sided power, mafia sided power, or could be both? Same with Obi's claimed D1 power, which was +2 votes or -3 votes (As malfurion)? Town/maf/neither? Could be both imo. Like it's balanced to go either way it looks like - giving town an extra lynch feels town-favored, but having to include one's self could be mafia flavored as well. And Obi's power feels incomplete. So Obi would have us believe that Malfurion Stormrage has a vote manipulation power and one other power he's received today that is useless? It just doesn't seem right...like, I don't even know what to think about his power because I still feel like I don't know anything about it. | ||
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