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Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 03 2014 03:20 GMT
#1593
I look bad for the shenanigans but GB talk to us about what you think about all this?
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 03 2014 03:25 GMT
#1597
The last time I wanted a lynch that bad Jay, HF decided it was better to kill town damdred then poisoner palmar at the last second *tear*
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 03 2014 03:31 GMT
#1600
oh god, thats a hilarious power.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 03 2014 03:35 GMT
#1606
Risk.Nuke
BH
GB

I think theirs a good chance theres a scum in this group. GBs play this game has felt like his scum meta and in the next day cycle I will have a case ready for the thread on GB that shows the meta side of it with his play and his hard defense of LT.

Risk.Nuke made promises lets see if he can keep them, he didn't look good while he was here made excuses didn't really contribute.

BH: Just not sure what hes doing thread prescense isn't where i'm used to.

Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 03 2014 03:43 GMT
#1609
Actually yea BH, i think by the vote talley you were actually the person who hammered the lynch down. You were up for shenanigans i think but you never really moved
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 03 2014 04:01 GMT
#1622
Better question is why did it hit obi and oats but no one else, there was a fair amount of votes not affected between obi and vote counts....
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 03 2014 19:34 GMT
#1700
GB is making me laugh with that comment
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 03 2014 21:35 GMT
#1703
I'm going to respond hf no worries
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 03 2014 23:52 GMT
#1747
I promised a case tomorrow after day starts but i'm going to be really hit or miss tomorrow so i decided to just go ahead and bust it out before I got called out on it.

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Glowing bear has a few consistences with his game play that does not look like his normal town play or his normal thought process when town. If you look at what amounts to his first serious post it looks pretty decent, it seems like its pretty try hard and trying to pressure and get information out, but town GB would NOT try hard like this.

On October 31 2014 11:54 GlowingBear wrote:
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On October 31 2014 11:31 jrkirby wrote:
I haven't played in over a year, so let's start slow.

This seems like normal day one starts: random unfounded accusations (which happen by both town and mafia), people being funny and playing around.

Nothig suspicious to me yet.


Ok people. I'm not kidding when I say I don't like this post.
Mafia have a hard time to insert themselves into the game. Their posts, usually, show struggle to make a good entrance.

In this post, this guy says the obvious and nothing more. If there is nothing suspicious and he is not willing to joke/engage into a conversation, why even bother posting?

Also, saying he didn't play in a year sounds like someone trying to downgrade their play so he gets a free pass when looking suspicious.


if you look at http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/468642-avogadros-number-mini-mafia (avogadros mafia gb was town here) This is GBs initial response to someone being try hard like he was starting in this game

On October 12 2014 06:36 GlowingBear wrote:
LE TRYHARD IS STRONG IN THIS GAME


When asked his why response was

On October 12 2014 06:50 GlowingBear wrote:
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On October 12 2014 06:40 DarthPunk wrote:
What the fuck is it with people whinging about try harding.

Firstly: This is not try harding.

Secondly: Why would you not try your best?

Makes no sense and annoys the shit out of me.


Raising suspicions on someone because he thinks that a guy that only posted an entrance COULD be mafia, instead is thinking that the guy IS mafia, is try hard for me.

It looks like scum try hard.

Your vote on damdred was also bizarre. Damdred looks terrible for what reason, specifically? You say you don't have a is about his alignment yet but still votes on him because "you don't care?"


On October 12 2014 07:19 GlowingBear wrote:
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On October 12 2014 07:08 Damdred wrote:
GB, i'm not really seeing mafia in geripts posting right now, he always rides my balls pretty hard. Could you point out something that shows him that way?


Damdy, I don't believe someone who joins the thread, makes thousand of questions and raises suspicions on little things. Specially on page 1.


On October 12 2014 07:27 GlowingBear wrote:
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On October 12 2014 07:20 VisceraEyes wrote:
On October 12 2014 07:18 Damdred wrote:
On October 12 2014 07:11 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 12 2014 07:05 Hopeless1der wrote:
On October 12 2014 07:01 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 12 2014 06:54 DarthPunk wrote:
On October 12 2014 06:50 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 12 2014 06:40 DarthPunk wrote:
What the fuck is it with people whinging about try harding.

Firstly: This is not try harding.

Secondly: Why would you not try your best?

Makes no sense and annoys the shit out of me.


Raising suspicions on someone because he thinks that a guy that only posted an entrance COULD be mafia, instead is thinking that the guy IS mafia, is try hard for me.

It looks like scum try hard.

Your vote on damdred was also bizarre. Damdred looks terrible for what reason, specifically? You say you don't have a is about his alignment yet but still votes on him because "you don't care?"


Congratulations, you successfully recited what happened in the thread. Care to draw a conclusion? or provide some analysis?

Damdred looks terrible because his posts were useless and made no positive contribution to the thread. Which is pretty damn obvious in my opinion.



Conclusion: geript is mafia tryhard and you are suspicious of being mafia or trying to look as mafia

could you rephrase this so that it makes sense this time?


Geript: trying too hard at the start of the game, picking on little things. He is mafia
DarthPunk: his vote on damdred is too scummy. He is either bad mafia (which I don't believe so, he is a legend ) or he tried to look as mafia for some reason.

Start ignoring me, I really believe this at the moment.


But is picking on the little things when their is so little to go on (lolz) actually alignment indicative? I'm not so sure that it is, especially with geripts history with me, try to explain to me more why this is mafia trait and not bad/good early scum hunting?

Not sure what you mean about DP, hes voted three people in this thread I think. Is throwing a vote around like that scummy for DP?




In a vacuum vote-skipping is town-indicative...it shows a carelessness with regard to one's outward appearance and fearlessness of retribution in the form of OMGUS votes.

The question is whether /you/ think it's scummy for DP or not. What do you think?


Answering damdred:

Damdy, the easiest thing for mafia to do is to come early in the thread and try to look contributive until someone townreads him. I did exactly what geript is doing in Mission. I'm more inclined to believe that mafia would be this tryhard at page 1 than town.

Throwing votes is town trait. Throwing votes without reasoning, or even saying he doesn't care is scummy to me. But too scummy to be scum. As I said, I don't want to discuss this specific point anymore.



This seems like a vastly different opinion and actions then GB would normally take, and if I could be so bold GB would scum read himself for the very actions he does early. Now if you compare it to another scum game gb has http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/464753-arnie-got-his-gun-mafia (arnie) we actually see a few similarities in the early game.

On August 19 2014 01:15 GlowingBear wrote:
Ok, I was running against time because I overslept and was late to work. I won't be too much active today because I'm at work and I'll have a course which I won't be able to use my phone.

Skimmed through the topic.

@Damdred: I pointed out something which was odd, and that was giving free town pass to Yamato so early and the reason is that he was posting more one liners than on another game. Do you really think this is an okay play as town? Also, you overreacted when I pointed out that. Although I always have a scum read on you, this makes me feel that you are a good vote for today.

@Robik:

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On August 19 2014 00:35 IAmRobik wrote:
On August 18 2014 08:45 GlowingBear wrote:
On August 18 2014 08:37 Xatalos wrote:
On August 18 2014 08:31 GlowingBear wrote:
On August 18 2014 08:20 Xatalos wrote:
I hope he is and makes a mistake


He may not be the shitty witch, but I don't like that he started doing jokes about roles night0. Sounds like mafia trying to talk about blue roles and making it easier to the shitty witch to use his power.


Hm. I guess it would be best to be as silent as possible about our roles until N0 is over. Dunno what would be the point of that check thingy. Possibly scum-motivated, or just bored.


Rayn could be town trying to take a bullet, but that's dumb, and Rayn is a good player. Being bored isn't an excuse.
You gotta admit it is at least suspicious.

I didn't like this line. He's seeking validation which is scummy.


So, you point out that you think I'm scum and then you search for a post that you think it's scummy? Good thought process in there. You are also unusually lurking on this game.

##Vote: IAmRobik

Because (i) your thought process is not natural, trying to force a scum read on a post of mine AFTER considering me scum for no particular reason, (ii) because you are lurking and dropping one liners in an unusual gameplay of yours.



The thought process and tone of the posts actually seem pretty close together as what was posted in this game.

Moving on, GB struggles as town to get his thought process and reasons for reading someone as a certain across

In avo for instance look at the intial readings of people

On October 12 2014 07:11 GlowingBear wrote:
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On October 12 2014 07:05 Hopeless1der wrote:
On October 12 2014 07:01 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 12 2014 06:54 DarthPunk wrote:
On October 12 2014 06:50 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 12 2014 06:40 DarthPunk wrote:
What the fuck is it with people whinging about try harding.

Firstly: This is not try harding.

Secondly: Why would you not try your best?

Makes no sense and annoys the shit out of me.


Raising suspicions on someone because he thinks that a guy that only posted an entrance COULD be mafia, instead is thinking that the guy IS mafia, is try hard for me.

It looks like scum try hard.

Your vote on damdred was also bizarre. Damdred looks terrible for what reason, specifically? You say you don't have a is about his alignment yet but still votes on him because "you don't care?"


Congratulations, you successfully recited what happened in the thread. Care to draw a conclusion? or provide some analysis?

Damdred looks terrible because his posts were useless and made no positive contribution to the thread. Which is pretty damn obvious in my opinion.



Conclusion: geript is mafia tryhard and you are suspicious of being mafia or trying to look as mafia

could you rephrase this so that it makes sense this time?


Geript: trying too hard at the start of the game, picking on little things. He is mafia
DarthPunk: his vote on damdred is too scummy. He is either bad mafia (which I don't believe so, he is a legend ) or he tried to look as mafia for some reason.

Start ignoring me, I really believe this at the moment.


There are a lot more prying posts inbetween this one and the next one but it takes a bit for GB to get this across

On October 12 2014 08:56 GlowingBear wrote:
On Geript
+ Show Spoiler [questioning] +

On October 12 2014 06:26 geript wrote:
Hello "town." Why'd you take so long coming to the thread?


On October 12 2014 06:27 geript wrote:
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On October 12 2014 06:26 Damdred wrote:
Geript is now in my town circle because I never know how to take his plans.

GB if I said you might be scum what would you say?

Why would you say he might be scum instead of just flat out calling him scum?



On October 12 2014 06:32 geript wrote:
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On October 12 2014 06:29 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 12 2014 06:27 geript wrote:
On October 12 2014 06:26 Damdred wrote:
Geript is now in my town circle because I never know how to take his plans.

GB if I said you might be scum what would you say?

Why would you say he might be scum instead of just flat out calling him scum?


He is trying to find a slip.

Damdy, I'd say you're wrong and that I'm not really worried because even if you don't believe now you'll believe later because you can read me well

Geript, I didn't came to the thread earlier because I just posted and when afk

How do you know that he's trying to find a slip? Doesn't that presume he's town?

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On October 12 2014 06:30 Damdred wrote:
Because until GB does his town tell that he doesn't realize he does he might be scum or not drunk enough yet

This sounds like complete bullshit.



On October 12 2014 06:37 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2014 06:36 GlowingBear wrote:
LE TRYHARD IS STRONG IN THIS GAME

If you're happy to play, then why are you bullshitting so much early?



I don't think his massive questioning is a town trait. I think it's a scum trying to look like town here. Look, it's easy to start questioning and look contributive at early game. It's a good opportunity for mafia to gain two points.
But check the second quote. He raises suspicions on damdy for saying that I might be mafia instead of being incisive. Should damdy be really that incisive when I've only posted twice? Why picking on this?
He picked on this because it is easy to pick and look contributive. It's easy to see something little and question about it, specially when there's nothing to infer from it, and gain town points by doing that. I see much more a mafia doing this than a townie.

Now, on DP

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On October 12 2014 06:35 DarthPunk wrote:
Holy crap. Damdred looks terrible already.

Don't know if he is scum or town but I kinda don't care.

##vote: Damdred


"I have no idea about his alignment but I'll vote him LOLOLOL I DON'T CARE"

Not caring is a mafia trait, right? So this is really scum.
But isn't this too scum? Like, if you're mafia, you would risking posting like this?

So, my conclusions on this post is
1) He is mafia trying to be read as town because he is too mafia to be mafia, or
2) He is blue fishing for a null read. He starts looking scummy but then goes to a town like position, which would make people only lean town on him. But talking about blue roles is stupid, it only helps mafia. That's why I didn't want to talk about it.

This took to long, I think I made my point.


and has to defend himself here

On October 12 2014 23:15 GlowingBear wrote:
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On October 12 2014 23:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Just answer the fact you called DarthPunk mafia with the thought in mind you didn't know if he is mafia or town and how on earth it does make any sense at all?


It made sense to me at that moment. I've seen Haru doing the same thing as blue (team melee). Yes, it's not a good play, but I can't understand town motive behind saying "I'll vote for him without having any idea of his alignment because I don't care". Why do you come to the thread and say that?
He said that damdy had shitty posts. My god, it was still page one. His only post was asking me what would I think if he called me mafia. Do you think this is so shitty to the point of a town being ready to kill a town?

So, this made me think that he tried to open the game looking scummy. I don't know if that's because he is mafia trying to look too scum to be scum or a blue fishing for a null tell (he goes for a vote streak which is a town trait, objectively. Looking scummy and then trying to look townie would grant him a close-to-null tell). This was my thought at the moment and I was sure pointing it out would least give us information to work with.

I will NOT read him solely on that and I think nobody should. But I think it's okay to use it as a secondary argument.


Now look at this, he really struggles getting what he thinks across but the thought process is there, and it shows some form of progression and thought. Compare it to here initial read posts and onward

On November 01 2014 01:32 GlowingBear wrote:
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On November 01 2014 01:25 Damdred wrote:
I wasn't paying attention to vote thread, ok GB but any other reads you want to get out their right now


VE is not playing his town meta
HF is okay
You have still to define your meta this game
I don't like lian
I don't like Kirby
I don't like jay
Oats has yet to define his meta this game

That's all I have for now.


And never really gives any explanations or reads after that and nobody challenges him but VE a bit but its dropped. What is GBs current reads? I couldn't tell you its not in the thread like they would normally be and they are really bland infact he himself says that hes being lazy and takes him over 24 hours (roughly) to even develop a case. We do know at one point he had mafia on BH, Me, nuke or kirby and somehwat not liking circumstance i'll give him that. And the circumstance thing kind of comes out of nowhere and is a lurker lynch basically with a few posts gb doesn't like.

Now look at how GB approaches the lynch, basically says we are lynching Damdred or <insert other person name here>, he does not try to convince the thread or try to make a case on me (does make one on circumstance later but lacks real push I feel) refuses to make cases up until a point and says f u and leaves.

If you compare this to GB in Fanasy Football or avo GB never does this, he might tunnel but he will pull out a case instantly instead of waiting hours even if it is wrong he is invested and puts time aside.

His activity and push in the thread past the first spammy day has fallen through the floor, and it falls in line with arnie got a gun and with fanfic when GB would pull activity back and say he just can't do it. Compare it to fantasy football or avo and he 100% makes time for them.

GB is scum

Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 03 2014 23:53 GMT
#1748
I had a more in depth case working but my comp crashed and i lost a lot of quotes for the bottom half so I went with it i can find them again if need be
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 03 2014 23:58 GMT
#1751
What hf said basically,

i know my case is boring but any thoughts?
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 04 2014 00:08 GMT
#1753
That makes me sad took awhile to read all those filters
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 04 2014 03:07 GMT
#1795
Oh my, well....thats some odd kills, BH just wanted to kill GB not sure what was going on their unless my case on gb convinced the vig to get gb...

Either way Obi and Jay you both should claim probably since one of you are going to die.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 04 2014 03:08 GMT
#1797
Obi what is your role and power?
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 04 2014 03:12 GMT
#1804
Seuss you think everthing I say is scummy probably and keep pointing to me. Its like you are soft pushing a lynch or trying to on me
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 04 2014 03:22 GMT
#1818
Ok I need thoughts, my ability in play today (its already activated just needs trigger) can be detrimental to town. How should we handle it
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 04 2014 03:24 GMT
#1819
On November 04 2014 12:22 Seuss wrote:
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On November 04 2014 12:12 Damdred wrote:
Seuss you think everthing I say is scummy probably and keep pointing to me. Its like you are soft pushing a lynch or trying to on me


Let me check off the scumtell boxes here:
  • NK speculation.
  • Instant role fishing.
  • Reflexive ad hominem.



Both of the kills don't make a ton of sense.

One of the people going to die probably obi no matter what

You been soft pushing me all the way back into last cycle
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 04 2014 03:29 GMT
#1824
Well its just an automatic ability that if someone says a specific word there vote power is gone for the cycle.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 04 2014 03:30 GMT
#1828
Just the first person to say it and I can't say it obviously
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 04 2014 03:32 GMT
#1834
Its one of BH favorite words near eod when lynched can go to someone else suddenly
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