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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
November 05 2014 20:17 GMT
#2321
On November 06 2014 05:15 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2014 05:12 VisceraEyes wrote:
On November 06 2014 05:09 Damdred wrote:
No theres still time for VE to calm down come back and really help us figure out the lynch. You can say all the mean words in the world to me VE but I still want you to play and calm down.

I've been doing that. All. Game.

I've been trying to figure out good lynches. All. Game.

Like, I'm JUST NOW saying fuck this and going away. JUST NOW! I haven't done that before now, I never "gave up" trying to find a good lynch when I voted risk.nuke as evidence by my filtering and subsequently scumreading Circ. I DID say that I wanted to lynch risk first, but from my perspective I've had reason to believe he's mafia since DAY FUCKING ONE! Anyone saying I only wanted to push risk because he's a lurker is a fucking LIAR or is FUCKING WRONG.


I'm not saying you only wanted to push risk because he's a lurker at all, I believe there is actually a good reason to scum read him for promises broken and unable to give reads in the thread which has already been discussed before.

But I don't think he was your top scum read going into the day and pointed out a couple things in your post, I just want you to calm down come back and decide if risk shoudl be the lynch today or if we should look somewhere else, and if we should send jay or obi off today.

risk IS the lynch today. I've made that quite clear, in fact gone so far as to say that anyone who is voting for risk is claiming mafia if they unvote risk. And we send off Obi today imo, I've been townreading Jay all game. I could be wrong, but Jay is aware of his "Best Mislynch NA" meta and I don't think as mafia he 1v1's like anyone in the thread.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 05 2014 20:18 GMT
#2322
On November 06 2014 05:15 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2014 05:13 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On November 06 2014 05:05 ritoky wrote:
On November 06 2014 05:04 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Love how nobody cares about the second lynch.


?????? I spent the entire day trying to dig you out from a pile of shit and you sat there digging in the opposite direction.


Appreciate you trying. The people deciding it don't care so it's mostly just us.

If I've got an opportunity to get out of it then I'm all ears. But I just don't see it.


Try to convince people that a) jaybrundage is scum or b) your abilities are more useful than his if you are both town.


I don't have any powers.

I can talk about job later though.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 05 2014 20:19 GMT
#2323
Jb*

Stupid phone.
Retired.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
November 05 2014 20:23 GMT
#2324
On November 06 2014 05:17 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2014 05:15 Damdred wrote:
On November 06 2014 05:12 VisceraEyes wrote:
On November 06 2014 05:09 Damdred wrote:
No theres still time for VE to calm down come back and really help us figure out the lynch. You can say all the mean words in the world to me VE but I still want you to play and calm down.

I've been doing that. All. Game.

I've been trying to figure out good lynches. All. Game.

Like, I'm JUST NOW saying fuck this and going away. JUST NOW! I haven't done that before now, I never "gave up" trying to find a good lynch when I voted risk.nuke as evidence by my filtering and subsequently scumreading Circ. I DID say that I wanted to lynch risk first, but from my perspective I've had reason to believe he's mafia since DAY FUCKING ONE! Anyone saying I only wanted to push risk because he's a lurker is a fucking LIAR or is FUCKING WRONG.


I'm not saying you only wanted to push risk because he's a lurker at all, I believe there is actually a good reason to scum read him for promises broken and unable to give reads in the thread which has already been discussed before.

But I don't think he was your top scum read going into the day and pointed out a couple things in your post, I just want you to calm down come back and decide if risk shoudl be the lynch today or if we should look somewhere else, and if we should send jay or obi off today.

risk IS the lynch today. I've made that quite clear, in fact gone so far as to say that anyone who is voting for risk is claiming mafia if they unvote risk. And we send off Obi today imo, I've been townreading Jay all game. I could be wrong, but Jay is aware of his "Best Mislynch NA" meta and I don't think as mafia he 1v1's like anyone in the thread.


So do you think Obi is scum then? Or is it solely because of your read on jay?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
November 05 2014 20:24 GMT
#2325
On November 06 2014 05:23 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2014 05:17 VisceraEyes wrote:
On November 06 2014 05:15 Damdred wrote:
On November 06 2014 05:12 VisceraEyes wrote:
On November 06 2014 05:09 Damdred wrote:
No theres still time for VE to calm down come back and really help us figure out the lynch. You can say all the mean words in the world to me VE but I still want you to play and calm down.

I've been doing that. All. Game.

I've been trying to figure out good lynches. All. Game.

Like, I'm JUST NOW saying fuck this and going away. JUST NOW! I haven't done that before now, I never "gave up" trying to find a good lynch when I voted risk.nuke as evidence by my filtering and subsequently scumreading Circ. I DID say that I wanted to lynch risk first, but from my perspective I've had reason to believe he's mafia since DAY FUCKING ONE! Anyone saying I only wanted to push risk because he's a lurker is a fucking LIAR or is FUCKING WRONG.


I'm not saying you only wanted to push risk because he's a lurker at all, I believe there is actually a good reason to scum read him for promises broken and unable to give reads in the thread which has already been discussed before.

But I don't think he was your top scum read going into the day and pointed out a couple things in your post, I just want you to calm down come back and decide if risk shoudl be the lynch today or if we should look somewhere else, and if we should send jay or obi off today.

risk IS the lynch today. I've made that quite clear, in fact gone so far as to say that anyone who is voting for risk is claiming mafia if they unvote risk. And we send off Obi today imo, I've been townreading Jay all game. I could be wrong, but Jay is aware of his "Best Mislynch NA" meta and I don't think as mafia he 1v1's like anyone in the thread.


So do you think Obi is scum then? Or is it solely because of your read on jay?

It's based solely on my townread of Jay. Obi MIGHT be mafia - HF did the whole catching him in a lie thing which he still denies, it still looks bad to me. Also there was the bit about him throwing shade on me during N1 for no reason, only to back completely off when the pressure was on him D2.

Obi is the better bet for mafia, so that's where my vote is.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
November 05 2014 20:28 GMT
#2326
On November 06 2014 05:24 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2014 05:23 ritoky wrote:
On November 06 2014 05:17 VisceraEyes wrote:
On November 06 2014 05:15 Damdred wrote:
On November 06 2014 05:12 VisceraEyes wrote:
On November 06 2014 05:09 Damdred wrote:
No theres still time for VE to calm down come back and really help us figure out the lynch. You can say all the mean words in the world to me VE but I still want you to play and calm down.

I've been doing that. All. Game.

I've been trying to figure out good lynches. All. Game.

Like, I'm JUST NOW saying fuck this and going away. JUST NOW! I haven't done that before now, I never "gave up" trying to find a good lynch when I voted risk.nuke as evidence by my filtering and subsequently scumreading Circ. I DID say that I wanted to lynch risk first, but from my perspective I've had reason to believe he's mafia since DAY FUCKING ONE! Anyone saying I only wanted to push risk because he's a lurker is a fucking LIAR or is FUCKING WRONG.


I'm not saying you only wanted to push risk because he's a lurker at all, I believe there is actually a good reason to scum read him for promises broken and unable to give reads in the thread which has already been discussed before.

But I don't think he was your top scum read going into the day and pointed out a couple things in your post, I just want you to calm down come back and decide if risk shoudl be the lynch today or if we should look somewhere else, and if we should send jay or obi off today.

risk IS the lynch today. I've made that quite clear, in fact gone so far as to say that anyone who is voting for risk is claiming mafia if they unvote risk. And we send off Obi today imo, I've been townreading Jay all game. I could be wrong, but Jay is aware of his "Best Mislynch NA" meta and I don't think as mafia he 1v1's like anyone in the thread.


So do you think Obi is scum then? Or is it solely because of your read on jay?

It's based solely on my townread of Jay. Obi MIGHT be mafia - HF did the whole catching him in a lie thing which he still denies, it still looks bad to me. Also there was the bit about him throwing shade on me during N1 for no reason, only to back completely off when the pressure was on him D2.

Obi is the better bet for mafia, so that's where my vote is.


What about the nature of the power itself. Challenging someone to a 1v1 and giving an extra lynch. Do you think that is clearly town sided power, mafia sided power, or could be both?

Same with Obi's claimed D1 power, which was +2 votes or -3 votes (As malfurion)? Town/maf/neither?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
November 05 2014 20:33 GMT
#2327
On November 06 2014 05:17 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2014 05:15 Damdred wrote:
On November 06 2014 05:12 VisceraEyes wrote:
On November 06 2014 05:09 Damdred wrote:
No theres still time for VE to calm down come back and really help us figure out the lynch. You can say all the mean words in the world to me VE but I still want you to play and calm down.

I've been doing that. All. Game.

I've been trying to figure out good lynches. All. Game.

Like, I'm JUST NOW saying fuck this and going away. JUST NOW! I haven't done that before now, I never "gave up" trying to find a good lynch when I voted risk.nuke as evidence by my filtering and subsequently scumreading Circ. I DID say that I wanted to lynch risk first, but from my perspective I've had reason to believe he's mafia since DAY FUCKING ONE! Anyone saying I only wanted to push risk because he's a lurker is a fucking LIAR or is FUCKING WRONG.


I'm not saying you only wanted to push risk because he's a lurker at all, I believe there is actually a good reason to scum read him for promises broken and unable to give reads in the thread which has already been discussed before.

But I don't think he was your top scum read going into the day and pointed out a couple things in your post, I just want you to calm down come back and decide if risk shoudl be the lynch today or if we should look somewhere else, and if we should send jay or obi off today.

risk IS the lynch today. I've made that quite clear, in fact gone so far as to say that anyone who is voting for risk is claiming mafia if they unvote risk. And we send off Obi today imo, I've been townreading Jay all game. I could be wrong, but Jay is aware of his "Best Mislynch NA" meta and I don't think as mafia he 1v1's like anyone in the thread.

That is so stupid on both counts.
First of all I'm town, wanting me lynched is ridiculous but you're in complete denial. Despite hardly even having been active day2 you're yelling NUH-UH I'm going to lynch the shit out of nuke today, I don't even care about other people, this is final and anyone disagreeing with me is scum. This is you right now Viscera. If you're town which I think you are, calm fucking down and stop being an idiot.

Secondly, out of obi and jay, jay is both the less helpful player and the more suspicious looking one. That's why he should be lynched.
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Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 05 2014 20:34 GMT
#2328
Could you elaborate more risk a bit? Give some other reads overall?

VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
November 05 2014 20:34 GMT
#2329
On November 06 2014 05:28 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2014 05:24 VisceraEyes wrote:
On November 06 2014 05:23 ritoky wrote:
On November 06 2014 05:17 VisceraEyes wrote:
On November 06 2014 05:15 Damdred wrote:
On November 06 2014 05:12 VisceraEyes wrote:
On November 06 2014 05:09 Damdred wrote:
No theres still time for VE to calm down come back and really help us figure out the lynch. You can say all the mean words in the world to me VE but I still want you to play and calm down.

I've been doing that. All. Game.

I've been trying to figure out good lynches. All. Game.

Like, I'm JUST NOW saying fuck this and going away. JUST NOW! I haven't done that before now, I never "gave up" trying to find a good lynch when I voted risk.nuke as evidence by my filtering and subsequently scumreading Circ. I DID say that I wanted to lynch risk first, but from my perspective I've had reason to believe he's mafia since DAY FUCKING ONE! Anyone saying I only wanted to push risk because he's a lurker is a fucking LIAR or is FUCKING WRONG.


I'm not saying you only wanted to push risk because he's a lurker at all, I believe there is actually a good reason to scum read him for promises broken and unable to give reads in the thread which has already been discussed before.

But I don't think he was your top scum read going into the day and pointed out a couple things in your post, I just want you to calm down come back and decide if risk shoudl be the lynch today or if we should look somewhere else, and if we should send jay or obi off today.

risk IS the lynch today. I've made that quite clear, in fact gone so far as to say that anyone who is voting for risk is claiming mafia if they unvote risk. And we send off Obi today imo, I've been townreading Jay all game. I could be wrong, but Jay is aware of his "Best Mislynch NA" meta and I don't think as mafia he 1v1's like anyone in the thread.


So do you think Obi is scum then? Or is it solely because of your read on jay?

It's based solely on my townread of Jay. Obi MIGHT be mafia - HF did the whole catching him in a lie thing which he still denies, it still looks bad to me. Also there was the bit about him throwing shade on me during N1 for no reason, only to back completely off when the pressure was on him D2.

Obi is the better bet for mafia, so that's where my vote is.


What about the nature of the power itself. Challenging someone to a 1v1 and giving an extra lynch. Do you think that is clearly town sided power, mafia sided power, or could be both?

Same with Obi's claimed D1 power, which was +2 votes or -3 votes (As malfurion)? Town/maf/neither?

Could be both imo. Like it's balanced to go either way it looks like - giving town an extra lynch feels town-favored, but having to include one's self could be mafia flavored as well. And Obi's power feels incomplete. So Obi would have us believe that Malfurion Stormrage has a vote manipulation power and one other power he's received today that is useless? It just doesn't seem right...like, I don't even know what to think about his power because I still feel like I don't know anything about it.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
November 05 2014 20:37 GMT
#2330
On November 06 2014 05:33 risk.nuke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2014 05:17 VisceraEyes wrote:
On November 06 2014 05:15 Damdred wrote:
On November 06 2014 05:12 VisceraEyes wrote:
On November 06 2014 05:09 Damdred wrote:
No theres still time for VE to calm down come back and really help us figure out the lynch. You can say all the mean words in the world to me VE but I still want you to play and calm down.

I've been doing that. All. Game.

I've been trying to figure out good lynches. All. Game.

Like, I'm JUST NOW saying fuck this and going away. JUST NOW! I haven't done that before now, I never "gave up" trying to find a good lynch when I voted risk.nuke as evidence by my filtering and subsequently scumreading Circ. I DID say that I wanted to lynch risk first, but from my perspective I've had reason to believe he's mafia since DAY FUCKING ONE! Anyone saying I only wanted to push risk because he's a lurker is a fucking LIAR or is FUCKING WRONG.


I'm not saying you only wanted to push risk because he's a lurker at all, I believe there is actually a good reason to scum read him for promises broken and unable to give reads in the thread which has already been discussed before.

But I don't think he was your top scum read going into the day and pointed out a couple things in your post, I just want you to calm down come back and decide if risk shoudl be the lynch today or if we should look somewhere else, and if we should send jay or obi off today.

risk IS the lynch today. I've made that quite clear, in fact gone so far as to say that anyone who is voting for risk is claiming mafia if they unvote risk. And we send off Obi today imo, I've been townreading Jay all game. I could be wrong, but Jay is aware of his "Best Mislynch NA" meta and I don't think as mafia he 1v1's like anyone in the thread.

That is so stupid on both counts.
First of all I'm town, wanting me lynched is ridiculous but you're in complete denial. Despite hardly even having been active day2 you're yelling NUH-UH I'm going to lynch the shit out of nuke today, I don't even care about other people, this is final and anyone disagreeing with me is scum. This is you right now Viscera. If you're town which I think you are, calm fucking down and stop being an idiot.

Secondly, out of obi and jay, jay is both the less helpful player and the more suspicious looking one. That's why he should be lynched.

I've said it before and I'll say it now again. If you feel like you're a poor lynch then stop hanging out and watching the game and start participating in the game. Part of that is doing more than just posting defensively against anyone who speaks up against you. Give reads on other players, give your opinion on the gamestate. You've said you think I'm town, so if you're town then who are the mafia on your wagon? Are there mafia on your wagon? Who are the mafia pushing if not you?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 05 2014 20:45 GMT
#2331
On November 06 2014 05:34 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2014 05:28 ritoky wrote:
On November 06 2014 05:24 VisceraEyes wrote:
On November 06 2014 05:23 ritoky wrote:
On November 06 2014 05:17 VisceraEyes wrote:
On November 06 2014 05:15 Damdred wrote:
On November 06 2014 05:12 VisceraEyes wrote:
On November 06 2014 05:09 Damdred wrote:
No theres still time for VE to calm down come back and really help us figure out the lynch. You can say all the mean words in the world to me VE but I still want you to play and calm down.

I've been doing that. All. Game.

I've been trying to figure out good lynches. All. Game.

Like, I'm JUST NOW saying fuck this and going away. JUST NOW! I haven't done that before now, I never "gave up" trying to find a good lynch when I voted risk.nuke as evidence by my filtering and subsequently scumreading Circ. I DID say that I wanted to lynch risk first, but from my perspective I've had reason to believe he's mafia since DAY FUCKING ONE! Anyone saying I only wanted to push risk because he's a lurker is a fucking LIAR or is FUCKING WRONG.


I'm not saying you only wanted to push risk because he's a lurker at all, I believe there is actually a good reason to scum read him for promises broken and unable to give reads in the thread which has already been discussed before.

But I don't think he was your top scum read going into the day and pointed out a couple things in your post, I just want you to calm down come back and decide if risk shoudl be the lynch today or if we should look somewhere else, and if we should send jay or obi off today.

risk IS the lynch today. I've made that quite clear, in fact gone so far as to say that anyone who is voting for risk is claiming mafia if they unvote risk. And we send off Obi today imo, I've been townreading Jay all game. I could be wrong, but Jay is aware of his "Best Mislynch NA" meta and I don't think as mafia he 1v1's like anyone in the thread.


So do you think Obi is scum then? Or is it solely because of your read on jay?

It's based solely on my townread of Jay. Obi MIGHT be mafia - HF did the whole catching him in a lie thing which he still denies, it still looks bad to me. Also there was the bit about him throwing shade on me during N1 for no reason, only to back completely off when the pressure was on him D2.

Obi is the better bet for mafia, so that's where my vote is.


What about the nature of the power itself. Challenging someone to a 1v1 and giving an extra lynch. Do you think that is clearly town sided power, mafia sided power, or could be both?

Same with Obi's claimed D1 power, which was +2 votes or -3 votes (As malfurion)? Town/maf/neither?

Could be both imo. Like it's balanced to go either way it looks like - giving town an extra lynch feels town-favored, but having to include one's self could be mafia flavored as well. And Obi's power feels incomplete. So Obi would have us believe that Malfurion Stormrage has a vote manipulation power and one other power he's received today that is useless? It just doesn't seem right...like, I don't even know what to think about his power because I still feel like I don't know anything about it.


No, I just didn't get a second power.
Retired.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
November 05 2014 20:46 GMT
#2332
On November 06 2014 05:45 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2014 05:34 VisceraEyes wrote:
On November 06 2014 05:28 ritoky wrote:
On November 06 2014 05:24 VisceraEyes wrote:
On November 06 2014 05:23 ritoky wrote:
On November 06 2014 05:17 VisceraEyes wrote:
On November 06 2014 05:15 Damdred wrote:
On November 06 2014 05:12 VisceraEyes wrote:
On November 06 2014 05:09 Damdred wrote:
No theres still time for VE to calm down come back and really help us figure out the lynch. You can say all the mean words in the world to me VE but I still want you to play and calm down.

I've been doing that. All. Game.

I've been trying to figure out good lynches. All. Game.

Like, I'm JUST NOW saying fuck this and going away. JUST NOW! I haven't done that before now, I never "gave up" trying to find a good lynch when I voted risk.nuke as evidence by my filtering and subsequently scumreading Circ. I DID say that I wanted to lynch risk first, but from my perspective I've had reason to believe he's mafia since DAY FUCKING ONE! Anyone saying I only wanted to push risk because he's a lurker is a fucking LIAR or is FUCKING WRONG.


I'm not saying you only wanted to push risk because he's a lurker at all, I believe there is actually a good reason to scum read him for promises broken and unable to give reads in the thread which has already been discussed before.

But I don't think he was your top scum read going into the day and pointed out a couple things in your post, I just want you to calm down come back and decide if risk shoudl be the lynch today or if we should look somewhere else, and if we should send jay or obi off today.

risk IS the lynch today. I've made that quite clear, in fact gone so far as to say that anyone who is voting for risk is claiming mafia if they unvote risk. And we send off Obi today imo, I've been townreading Jay all game. I could be wrong, but Jay is aware of his "Best Mislynch NA" meta and I don't think as mafia he 1v1's like anyone in the thread.


So do you think Obi is scum then? Or is it solely because of your read on jay?

It's based solely on my townread of Jay. Obi MIGHT be mafia - HF did the whole catching him in a lie thing which he still denies, it still looks bad to me. Also there was the bit about him throwing shade on me during N1 for no reason, only to back completely off when the pressure was on him D2.

Obi is the better bet for mafia, so that's where my vote is.


What about the nature of the power itself. Challenging someone to a 1v1 and giving an extra lynch. Do you think that is clearly town sided power, mafia sided power, or could be both?

Same with Obi's claimed D1 power, which was +2 votes or -3 votes (As malfurion)? Town/maf/neither?

Could be both imo. Like it's balanced to go either way it looks like - giving town an extra lynch feels town-favored, but having to include one's self could be mafia flavored as well. And Obi's power feels incomplete. So Obi would have us believe that Malfurion Stormrage has a vote manipulation power and one other power he's received today that is useless? It just doesn't seem right...like, I don't even know what to think about his power because I still feel like I don't know anything about it.


No, I just didn't get a second power.


Is your first power still available for use today or has it evaporated?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 05 2014 20:48 GMT
#2333
Comparing the powers if both are truthful Jays would look more mafia esq than obis. Mafia has to have a risk to put someone in a duel so best shot would be to put themselves agains the scummiest looking person in the thread.

If obi is being truthful and was scum he could of saved scum tolkien last night and forced a no lynch quite possibly. Which is total wifom
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 05 2014 20:48 GMT
#2334
On November 06 2014 05:24 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2014 05:23 ritoky wrote:
On November 06 2014 05:17 VisceraEyes wrote:
On November 06 2014 05:15 Damdred wrote:
On November 06 2014 05:12 VisceraEyes wrote:
On November 06 2014 05:09 Damdred wrote:
No theres still time for VE to calm down come back and really help us figure out the lynch. You can say all the mean words in the world to me VE but I still want you to play and calm down.

I've been doing that. All. Game.

I've been trying to figure out good lynches. All. Game.

Like, I'm JUST NOW saying fuck this and going away. JUST NOW! I haven't done that before now, I never "gave up" trying to find a good lynch when I voted risk.nuke as evidence by my filtering and subsequently scumreading Circ. I DID say that I wanted to lynch risk first, but from my perspective I've had reason to believe he's mafia since DAY FUCKING ONE! Anyone saying I only wanted to push risk because he's a lurker is a fucking LIAR or is FUCKING WRONG.


I'm not saying you only wanted to push risk because he's a lurker at all, I believe there is actually a good reason to scum read him for promises broken and unable to give reads in the thread which has already been discussed before.

But I don't think he was your top scum read going into the day and pointed out a couple things in your post, I just want you to calm down come back and decide if risk shoudl be the lynch today or if we should look somewhere else, and if we should send jay or obi off today.

risk IS the lynch today. I've made that quite clear, in fact gone so far as to say that anyone who is voting for risk is claiming mafia if they unvote risk. And we send off Obi today imo, I've been townreading Jay all game. I could be wrong, but Jay is aware of his "Best Mislynch NA" meta and I don't think as mafia he 1v1's like anyone in the thread.


So do you think Obi is scum then? Or is it solely because of your read on jay?

It's based solely on my townread of Jay. Obi MIGHT be mafia - HF did the whole catching him in a lie thing which he still denies, it still looks bad to me. Also there was the bit about him throwing shade on me during N1 for no reason, only to back completely off when the pressure was on him D2.

Obi is the better bet for mafia, so that's where my vote is.


The whole "Hf lie" thing hinges on me going back in time after seeing a scummy post, marking it as null, and then re-seeing it later and scum reading lt for it after I already had a reason to vote him.

Also, if a bunch of people have said the same thing as I have to some degree, why is it that me saying it makes me scum?
Retired.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9244 Posts
November 05 2014 20:50 GMT
#2335
On November 06 2014 05:17 Seuss wrote:
Tangent:

Is voting for OBLIVION mandatory?


Yes
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 05 2014 20:50 GMT
#2336
On November 06 2014 05:46 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2014 05:45 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On November 06 2014 05:34 VisceraEyes wrote:
On November 06 2014 05:28 ritoky wrote:
On November 06 2014 05:24 VisceraEyes wrote:
On November 06 2014 05:23 ritoky wrote:
On November 06 2014 05:17 VisceraEyes wrote:
On November 06 2014 05:15 Damdred wrote:
On November 06 2014 05:12 VisceraEyes wrote:
On November 06 2014 05:09 Damdred wrote:
No theres still time for VE to calm down come back and really help us figure out the lynch. You can say all the mean words in the world to me VE but I still want you to play and calm down.

I've been doing that. All. Game.

I've been trying to figure out good lynches. All. Game.

Like, I'm JUST NOW saying fuck this and going away. JUST NOW! I haven't done that before now, I never "gave up" trying to find a good lynch when I voted risk.nuke as evidence by my filtering and subsequently scumreading Circ. I DID say that I wanted to lynch risk first, but from my perspective I've had reason to believe he's mafia since DAY FUCKING ONE! Anyone saying I only wanted to push risk because he's a lurker is a fucking LIAR or is FUCKING WRONG.


I'm not saying you only wanted to push risk because he's a lurker at all, I believe there is actually a good reason to scum read him for promises broken and unable to give reads in the thread which has already been discussed before.

But I don't think he was your top scum read going into the day and pointed out a couple things in your post, I just want you to calm down come back and decide if risk shoudl be the lynch today or if we should look somewhere else, and if we should send jay or obi off today.

risk IS the lynch today. I've made that quite clear, in fact gone so far as to say that anyone who is voting for risk is claiming mafia if they unvote risk. And we send off Obi today imo, I've been townreading Jay all game. I could be wrong, but Jay is aware of his "Best Mislynch NA" meta and I don't think as mafia he 1v1's like anyone in the thread.


So do you think Obi is scum then? Or is it solely because of your read on jay?

It's based solely on my townread of Jay. Obi MIGHT be mafia - HF did the whole catching him in a lie thing which he still denies, it still looks bad to me. Also there was the bit about him throwing shade on me during N1 for no reason, only to back completely off when the pressure was on him D2.

Obi is the better bet for mafia, so that's where my vote is.


What about the nature of the power itself. Challenging someone to a 1v1 and giving an extra lynch. Do you think that is clearly town sided power, mafia sided power, or could be both?

Same with Obi's claimed D1 power, which was +2 votes or -3 votes (As malfurion)? Town/maf/neither?

Could be both imo. Like it's balanced to go either way it looks like - giving town an extra lynch feels town-favored, but having to include one's self could be mafia flavored as well. And Obi's power feels incomplete. So Obi would have us believe that Malfurion Stormrage has a vote manipulation power and one other power he's received today that is useless? It just doesn't seem right...like, I don't even know what to think about his power because I still feel like I don't know anything about it.


No, I just didn't get a second power.


Is your first power still available for use today or has it evaporated?


I would assume it would have evaporated after day 1 since it was listed as my day 1 power. It doesn't matter though because I didn't make a choice.
Retired.
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
November 05 2014 20:50 GMT
#2337
On November 06 2014 05:37 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2014 05:33 risk.nuke wrote:
On November 06 2014 05:17 VisceraEyes wrote:
On November 06 2014 05:15 Damdred wrote:
On November 06 2014 05:12 VisceraEyes wrote:
On November 06 2014 05:09 Damdred wrote:
No theres still time for VE to calm down come back and really help us figure out the lynch. You can say all the mean words in the world to me VE but I still want you to play and calm down.

I've been doing that. All. Game.

I've been trying to figure out good lynches. All. Game.

Like, I'm JUST NOW saying fuck this and going away. JUST NOW! I haven't done that before now, I never "gave up" trying to find a good lynch when I voted risk.nuke as evidence by my filtering and subsequently scumreading Circ. I DID say that I wanted to lynch risk first, but from my perspective I've had reason to believe he's mafia since DAY FUCKING ONE! Anyone saying I only wanted to push risk because he's a lurker is a fucking LIAR or is FUCKING WRONG.


I'm not saying you only wanted to push risk because he's a lurker at all, I believe there is actually a good reason to scum read him for promises broken and unable to give reads in the thread which has already been discussed before.

But I don't think he was your top scum read going into the day and pointed out a couple things in your post, I just want you to calm down come back and decide if risk shoudl be the lynch today or if we should look somewhere else, and if we should send jay or obi off today.

risk IS the lynch today. I've made that quite clear, in fact gone so far as to say that anyone who is voting for risk is claiming mafia if they unvote risk. And we send off Obi today imo, I've been townreading Jay all game. I could be wrong, but Jay is aware of his "Best Mislynch NA" meta and I don't think as mafia he 1v1's like anyone in the thread.

That is so stupid on both counts.
First of all I'm town, wanting me lynched is ridiculous but you're in complete denial. Despite hardly even having been active day2 you're yelling NUH-UH I'm going to lynch the shit out of nuke today, I don't even care about other people, this is final and anyone disagreeing with me is scum. This is you right now Viscera. If you're town which I think you are, calm fucking down and stop being an idiot.

Secondly, out of obi and jay, jay is both the less helpful player and the more suspicious looking one. That's why he should be lynched.

I've said it before and I'll say it now again. If you feel like you're a poor lynch then stop hanging out and watching the game and start participating in the game. Part of that is doing more than just posting defensively against anyone who speaks up against you. Give reads on other players, give your opinion on the gamestate. You've said you think I'm town, so if you're town then who are the mafia on your wagon? Are there mafia on your wagon? Who are the mafia pushing if not you?

I've probably been the most active person day2 you priggish shit, It's all of fucking you who's been missing. I'm finding it hard to separate town from scum because for most of this cycle town and scum have been doing the exact same shit. Which is nothing, and being content with sitting on your arses and waiting for my (or maybe circs) lynch to happen. Well good job everyone because it might happen, but when I flip town you'll have noone to blame but yourselves.

Since I haven't been able to get reads of people who aren't here I've been trying to get the one person I can tell with absolute certainty is mafia lynched. But none of you even fucking cared about that either. Because you're not satisfied with my amount of reads. You're just sitting around waiting for me to magically whip up reads from nothing. Which I can't do because you were not here to give me material.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
November 05 2014 20:54 GMT
#2338
On November 06 2014 05:50 risk.nuke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2014 05:37 VisceraEyes wrote:
On November 06 2014 05:33 risk.nuke wrote:
On November 06 2014 05:17 VisceraEyes wrote:
On November 06 2014 05:15 Damdred wrote:
On November 06 2014 05:12 VisceraEyes wrote:
On November 06 2014 05:09 Damdred wrote:
No theres still time for VE to calm down come back and really help us figure out the lynch. You can say all the mean words in the world to me VE but I still want you to play and calm down.

I've been doing that. All. Game.

I've been trying to figure out good lynches. All. Game.

Like, I'm JUST NOW saying fuck this and going away. JUST NOW! I haven't done that before now, I never "gave up" trying to find a good lynch when I voted risk.nuke as evidence by my filtering and subsequently scumreading Circ. I DID say that I wanted to lynch risk first, but from my perspective I've had reason to believe he's mafia since DAY FUCKING ONE! Anyone saying I only wanted to push risk because he's a lurker is a fucking LIAR or is FUCKING WRONG.


I'm not saying you only wanted to push risk because he's a lurker at all, I believe there is actually a good reason to scum read him for promises broken and unable to give reads in the thread which has already been discussed before.

But I don't think he was your top scum read going into the day and pointed out a couple things in your post, I just want you to calm down come back and decide if risk shoudl be the lynch today or if we should look somewhere else, and if we should send jay or obi off today.

risk IS the lynch today. I've made that quite clear, in fact gone so far as to say that anyone who is voting for risk is claiming mafia if they unvote risk. And we send off Obi today imo, I've been townreading Jay all game. I could be wrong, but Jay is aware of his "Best Mislynch NA" meta and I don't think as mafia he 1v1's like anyone in the thread.

That is so stupid on both counts.
First of all I'm town, wanting me lynched is ridiculous but you're in complete denial. Despite hardly even having been active day2 you're yelling NUH-UH I'm going to lynch the shit out of nuke today, I don't even care about other people, this is final and anyone disagreeing with me is scum. This is you right now Viscera. If you're town which I think you are, calm fucking down and stop being an idiot.

Secondly, out of obi and jay, jay is both the less helpful player and the more suspicious looking one. That's why he should be lynched.

I've said it before and I'll say it now again. If you feel like you're a poor lynch then stop hanging out and watching the game and start participating in the game. Part of that is doing more than just posting defensively against anyone who speaks up against you. Give reads on other players, give your opinion on the gamestate. You've said you think I'm town, so if you're town then who are the mafia on your wagon? Are there mafia on your wagon? Who are the mafia pushing if not you?

I've probably been the most active person day2 you priggish shit, It's all of fucking you who's been missing. I'm finding it hard to separate town from scum because for most of this cycle town and scum have been doing the exact same shit. Which is nothing, and being content with sitting on your arses and waiting for my (or maybe circs) lynch to happen. Well good job everyone because it might happen, but when I flip town you'll have noone to blame but yourselves.

Since I haven't been able to get reads of people who aren't here I've been trying to get the one person I can tell with absolute certainty is mafia lynched. But none of you even fucking cared about that either. Because you're not satisfied with my amount of reads. You're just sitting around waiting for me to magically whip up reads from nothing. Which I can't do because you were not here to give me material.


First off, you've been the most active person day 2 is lol.

Secondly, there's 116 pages of content, how do you have 1 read? Like this blows my mind. You found nothing from the HF and VE interaction, nothing from my reads post, nothing from all the interactions with damdred, nothing from the scum lynch yesterday?

What do you make of the oblivion choice, JayB or OWS?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
November 05 2014 20:54 GMT
#2339
scratch that you already answered the 3rd question, i am an idiot
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
November 05 2014 21:06 GMT
#2340
On November 06 2014 05:50 risk.nuke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2014 05:37 VisceraEyes wrote:
On November 06 2014 05:33 risk.nuke wrote:
On November 06 2014 05:17 VisceraEyes wrote:
On November 06 2014 05:15 Damdred wrote:
On November 06 2014 05:12 VisceraEyes wrote:
On November 06 2014 05:09 Damdred wrote:
No theres still time for VE to calm down come back and really help us figure out the lynch. You can say all the mean words in the world to me VE but I still want you to play and calm down.

I've been doing that. All. Game.

I've been trying to figure out good lynches. All. Game.

Like, I'm JUST NOW saying fuck this and going away. JUST NOW! I haven't done that before now, I never "gave up" trying to find a good lynch when I voted risk.nuke as evidence by my filtering and subsequently scumreading Circ. I DID say that I wanted to lynch risk first, but from my perspective I've had reason to believe he's mafia since DAY FUCKING ONE! Anyone saying I only wanted to push risk because he's a lurker is a fucking LIAR or is FUCKING WRONG.


I'm not saying you only wanted to push risk because he's a lurker at all, I believe there is actually a good reason to scum read him for promises broken and unable to give reads in the thread which has already been discussed before.

But I don't think he was your top scum read going into the day and pointed out a couple things in your post, I just want you to calm down come back and decide if risk shoudl be the lynch today or if we should look somewhere else, and if we should send jay or obi off today.

risk IS the lynch today. I've made that quite clear, in fact gone so far as to say that anyone who is voting for risk is claiming mafia if they unvote risk. And we send off Obi today imo, I've been townreading Jay all game. I could be wrong, but Jay is aware of his "Best Mislynch NA" meta and I don't think as mafia he 1v1's like anyone in the thread.

That is so stupid on both counts.
First of all I'm town, wanting me lynched is ridiculous but you're in complete denial. Despite hardly even having been active day2 you're yelling NUH-UH I'm going to lynch the shit out of nuke today, I don't even care about other people, this is final and anyone disagreeing with me is scum. This is you right now Viscera. If you're town which I think you are, calm fucking down and stop being an idiot.

Secondly, out of obi and jay, jay is both the less helpful player and the more suspicious looking one. That's why he should be lynched.

I've said it before and I'll say it now again. If you feel like you're a poor lynch then stop hanging out and watching the game and start participating in the game. Part of that is doing more than just posting defensively against anyone who speaks up against you. Give reads on other players, give your opinion on the gamestate. You've said you think I'm town, so if you're town then who are the mafia on your wagon? Are there mafia on your wagon? Who are the mafia pushing if not you?

I've probably been the most active person day2 you priggish shit, It's all of fucking you who's been missing. I'm finding it hard to separate town from scum because for most of this cycle town and scum have been doing the exact same shit. Which is nothing, and being content with sitting on your arses and waiting for my (or maybe circs) lynch to happen. Well good job everyone because it might happen, but when I flip town you'll have noone to blame but yourselves.

Since I haven't been able to get reads of people who aren't here I've been trying to get the one person I can tell with absolute certainty is mafia lynched. But none of you even fucking cared about that either. Because you're not satisfied with my amount of reads. You're just sitting around waiting for me to magically whip up reads from nothing. Which I can't do because you were not here to give me material.


there's 40 pages since n1/d2 so you sitting there on 2 pages doesn't really correlate with you being the "most active"???? Now you're saying that we aren't doing anything else but when i point that out about ve you say he's a town read for no reason whatsoever, I don't even know what you're thinking other than on oats and he is just one person. People have been pretty active this cycle and if people are just afking like you say they are then who has the best reasons to be on your wagon and who has the worst and is just along for the ride? Who is solving things, who isn't????

you're just telling people to ask you questions but you aren't asking anyone else any questions at all it doesn't look like you're trying to get a better read on anyone
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