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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
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ObiWanShinobi
United States8089 Posts
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
On November 06 2014 06:13 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Ve, for you to think that risk and me are both mafia means that I was bussing him for no reason while he was pushing my counter wagon in the gladiate. that's what he thinks for me and lt briefly too so duh | ||
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ObiWanShinobi
United States8089 Posts
On November 06 2014 06:17 Holyflare wrote: that's what he thinks for me and lt briefly too so duh That doesn't make him mafia any more than it does Ve. | ||
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risk.nuke
Sweden2825 Posts
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ObiWanShinobi
United States8089 Posts
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risk.nuke
Sweden2825 Posts
On November 06 2014 06:28 risk.nuke wrote: VE seems town because he seems genuine from how he talks. HF I'm reading town on you aswell from obvious reasons plus a thing I am speculating about. There is noone in this game that I want to lynch even remotely as much as oats right now. Most others are nullreads may just aswell be scum as mafia. Ofcourse there are mafia on my lynch, I got 7 people on me and most of them have been sitting there all cycle. You say this cycle have been active, active how? What have been discussed? What other lynch candidates have been discussed or proposed? that's a typo, supposed to be "town as mafia" On November 06 2014 06:30 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I'm probably going to unvote risk. beware, you'll be confirmed scum to visceraeyes... + Show Spoiler + being serious: yes, that is a good idea | ||
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
On November 06 2014 04:48 VisceraEyes wrote: IF ANYONE MOVES OFF RISK.NUKE THEY ARE CLAIMING MAFIA! I agree! | ||
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
On November 06 2014 05:00 ritoky wrote: ???? Here is this strange crap about slam again????? Tell me what is strange! My one ability that doesn't suck is I glom onto things that happened while I was live. | ||
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
On November 06 2014 06:35 risk.nuke wrote: + Show Spoiler + On November 06 2014 06:28 risk.nuke wrote: VE seems town because he seems genuine from how he talks. HF I'm reading town on you aswell from obvious reasons plus a thing I am speculating about. There is noone in this game that I want to lynch even remotely as much as oats right now. Most others are nullreads may just aswell be scum as mafia. Ofcourse there are mafia on my lynch, I got 7 people on me and most of them have been sitting there all cycle. You say this cycle have been active, active how? What have been discussed? What other lynch candidates have been discussed or proposed? that's a typo, supposed to be "town as mafia" beware, you'll be confirmed scum to visceraeyes... + Show Spoiler + being serious: yes, that is a good idea All you do is claim town Why don't you just say "I'm town, I am not scum- voting for me is a bad idea HA CONFIRMED LIKE PALMAR! cya" every game then? ... Oh wait Seriously though do something about the claims against you or ve is right But he is right ISNT he | ||
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ritoky
United States6851 Posts
On November 06 2014 06:37 Alakaslam wrote: Tell me what is strange! My one ability that doesn't suck is I glom onto things that happened while I was live. I feel like he is over-crediting you for things, and over-town-reading you for things in odd places and for not really strong reasons. It's just the timing of his mentions and reads on you I am having difficulty understanding. | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
Can you update me on why? | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
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jaybrundage
United States3921 Posts
So as possible town fighting isn't helping us figure out who we want to lynch today. I think we should focus on who can be lynched today. Risk,nuke is the biggest possibility with the most votes. The main points against him are that: He promised content. Didn't deliver with exception to him saying he thinks Oats is scum. He never produced a case didn't respond to me trying to talk to him about Oats. Blamed the Town saying its our fault he is up for lynch. Takes no responsibility for not being proactive and making a case. Or trying to show his townieness thru his actions. He just says this your fault town and lurks some more. Circumstance is someone I mentioned before. Another possibility for a lynch. He seems to often be mentioned as a lynch target but no one has voted for him. I tried to put some pressure on him to get more active. He responded to my post with this. On November 04 2014 15:35 Circumstance wrote: FFS. I've had a long few days, and I already got an activity warning. I'll be able to be significantly more active after tomorrow (the last day of my internship). Anyway, I'm feeling like the GB nightkill probably was at least in part an attempted a frame on me, since his analysis on me was pretty effective at painting me in a scummy light. I'll directly say that my Night 1 ability wound up being a bust, since nobody did anything to my target. He basically did the same thing risk,nuke has done. Stated he was busy for RL reasons. Promises activity later. That was his only post in D2 unless I'm mistaken. He is basically a straight up lurker. I really wish he would just get modkilled off for inactivity. Also in D1 he straight up stated he had no idea what he was gonna vote. He wanted reasons to get OFF risk.nuke but doesn't provide reasons why anyone is scum. Complete wishy wash scummy bull. He also brings up his schedule as an excuse day 1. Same thing he did day 2 I feel a pattern forming. On November 01 2014 10:47 Circumstance wrote: Do you want me to explain my schedule to you? I will if you want. As for GB's question, my current reads aren't strong enough to lay out on the table right now, and frankly, I don't know how much it matters at this stage. We've got some clear targets that are slowly beginning to get multiple votes placed on them. If we don't consolidate, we run the risk of a no-lynch, which doesn't benefit anyone. I don't WANT to lynch you right now, GB, because I'm not a fan of RNG and you keep discussions going. But before I place my vote on risk.nuke, I want to hear the argument against it, assuming there is one, to see if it holds water. Again I dont wanna lynch risk.nuke someone tell me not too. If he has a town read on risk.nuke. Then come out and say it! This feels like scum wanted a reason to get off scum. Ironic considering that LT was also scum. BUT keep in mind he never mentioned LT. On November 01 2014 09:42 Circumstance wrote: So, we have GB as a call for the D1 backup, and some people seem to be jumping onboard for risk.nuke. I've read the case for lynching risk.nuke, and I'm not yet completely sold. I don't have a solid read on him yet, so can anyone give me a reason we should lynch someone else INSTEAD of risk.nuke? Here I ask him a bunch of questions because up till that point he hadn't given any reads of any stability at all. It was like pulling teeth. The answers are still disappointing tho. He states he thought there was pressure on risk.nuke and he wanted to nail him down. But in his other posts he seemed to be looking for every excuse NOT to lynch risk.nuke. Says he thinks Oats might be scummy. Says we should get Cat on him. Doesn't seem to want to figure out Oats by him self at all. This is wierd he brings up LT and says he is just a placeholder. To me this feels like a soft defense. He makes it seem like LT is town and that people would be ok lynching him cause if hes town. Then its no big deal. BUT this wasn't the case. He even says people were planning to unvote him. Not sure where he got that notion. When I ask him who his lynch target is. He states basically IUNNO. Real help. He has posted less then Risk.nuke. But at the same time Defended LT and Risk.nuke on day 1. On November 01 2014 12:28 Circumstance wrote: I'll go over the questions first, since I need to do a proper filter runthrough before I go on with reads. I've been going mainly on instinct since I went to bed last night. I brought up risk.nuke because I noticed a push towards him, and given that I was assuming a majority requirement, I figured it would be pertinent to nail someone down quickly. Oats still feels like he's not really helping move things along. Holyflare's assessment of him mimics my thoughts to a certain extent. I think he's definitely worth an analysis, because he just doesn't seem to make sense right now. LT seemed like a placeholder more than anything - the rationale of voting seemed to be mainly "eh, no big loss if we're wrong." And I did see a few posts indicating that people were planning on unvoting him (though that evidently didn't wind up happening in the thread itself). If it were up to me, I had the power to off one player straight away, I wouldn't be prepared to do so just yet. I'm not seeing something I can put together and say "Yes, this player is definitely ideal to lynch today", so with the time we have, I'd like for us all to get a stronger case put together on someone. Dramdred is the third candidate. Alot of the suspection seems to stem from his use his power to extend the lynch. But self preservation seems not alignment indicative to me at least. Seuss posted a case on him. Here Something that hasn't been noticed before is how Dramdred was reacting to the Spat of VE HF. He seems to be egging it on a bit. But when it nears the end of VE practically rage quiting. Then he backs up and says dude relax chill out a bit I just want to under stand this. But it seems the opposite of what he was doing before. He also Fingers VE as being mafia in a few of his posts. But never calls him actually mafia. On November 06 2014 05:07 Damdred wrote: My god VE just answer us for gods sake, you went on a rampage and then completely went from HF IS SCUM GIVE US PARTNER to, i'm not sure hes mafia. So talk to us and help us sort through this, calm down if you have to step away you can. On November 06 2014 05:05 Damdred wrote: Oh shush you HF To continue i hit the post button a bit to soon, You say VE that town want to make a lynch happen. Most of hte time thats yoru top scum read right? I'm your top scum read, you should WANT to make my lynch happen like seuss is doing or did, you shouldn't just drop it in one sentence. On November 06 2014 04:49 Damdred wrote: VE if you are so sure that hf is scum why say that shouldn't you be pushing people to lynch the more dangerous hf? Looking over it all. I feel like Day 1 Circumstances play. Combined with his risk.nuke-esque excuse. Make him very possible to be mafia. Risk.nuke hasn't changed much and I would be fine lynching either one of them. Dramdred is kind of an outlier for me. I was more null on him Day 1. But his egging on of VE HF and lack of anything useful to say in regard to a lynch candidate makes me think he could very well be scum. ##UnVote Risk.nuke ##Vote Circumstance | ||
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jaybrundage
United States3921 Posts
I haven't been focusing on this because I felt that people should know that I'm townie by now. But seeing how the vote is still possible to swing I feel like I need to talk about it. I voted OWS towards the end of the night. My power was I could create a secondary lynch between me and another player. I had to pick a target before the end of the night or my power would be lost. I had originally going to go for Circumstance and was asking people about him. When the HF, OWS thing came up. I looked into it and came to the conclusion that OWS saying that he had LT as mafia AFTER the fact of him going back and forth between candidates and saying that a certian post made him think that LT was mafia that was several hours old and that he never mentioned previously struck me and very odd I saw no town incentive to do this. It looked very much like mafia trying to get cred of a wagon that they didn't seem to want to lynch before. OWS I had asked you questions before night ended. I don't believe you ever answered them could you do so now. I know I'm town. While Oats has been posting quite differently with this secondary lynch looming above us. There is still a good chance he's mafia using appeal to emotion. And I have no intention to be mislynched. | ||
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jaybrundage
United States3921 Posts
DOES NO ONE GIVE A SHIT! | ||
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ObiWanShinobi
United States8089 Posts
I'll even quote the post I used as my reasoning when I get home. | ||
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ObiWanShinobi
United States8089 Posts
Otherwise I'm pushing him. | ||
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jaybrundage
United States3921 Posts
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