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On October 24 2014 11:32 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2014 11:29 Holyflare wrote:On October 24 2014 11:24 GlowingBear wrote:On October 24 2014 10:59 Holyflare wrote:On October 24 2014 10:56 GlowingBear wrote:On October 24 2014 10:47 Holyflare wrote:On October 24 2014 10:30 GlowingBear wrote:On October 24 2014 10:25 Damdred wrote:On October 24 2014 10:05 GlowingBear wrote:On October 24 2014 10:00 Damdred wrote:
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Very possible could be store, Lian and hf...
wait bear you no whisper in my ear I whisper you, I'm the bear whiserer. Reasons behind it? Bear, I think these are great reasons that these guys aren't the beautiful town they are pretending to be. look at storrs filter man, compare it to the other games he played in.Hes a serious person in every game, but everything is coming off so fake this game his fights seem fake. His pressure feels fake, everything about him seems fake. Hes also obtuse and he filled up the thread with a fight over nothing to get town disorganized at the start. Lian hasn't posted a lot of really insightful posts this game either. Last game I scum read him for refusing to do things, so my hesitation...actually screw that. Hes wishy washy a lot of his filter is fluff, he tried to get ff into a rage and has seemed to avoid things and takes soft stances i might of mentioned that already. hf gives some unsubstantiated reads, and his list of people he wants to lynch is mostly lazy people or lurkers. Could be mafia in their but just doesn't seem like a townhf thing to do. Storr was really serious when we both played mafia together. He also posted a lot less than he is posting now. So you believe lian and storr are mafia together. Do you think mafia would bus for so long, specially considering this is still day1? HF needs to step up, I'm also not liking his gameplay. On October 24 2014 10:40 GlowingBear wrote:On October 24 2014 10:35 Damdred wrote:
I know what you are doing here bear bear but i'll go along until i finish this drink.
People can change their playstyle to fit their needs.
The possibility is their, its probably a low possibility i have no idea how lian plays scum. But they seem a bit ok instead of just pushing each other they seem to be at peace so not seeing much bus after initial.
Bear, tell me your scum reads or are you still catching up I'm stilll at page 19. I don't think I'll be able to finish catching up today but anyway...
I want to call everyone in the game scum. Nobody has done anything quite townie yet. Which sucks.
But until now my strongest scumread is lian. Gonna make a case on him.Damdy, would storr and lian bus themselves so early if they are both mafia? what the fuck is this, you've read half of the thread, don't know what on earth people are posting yet at all because you aren't caught up with 50% of the game and you are already making a super strong scum read + wanting to make a case on them and you're talking about people's play throughout the whole game? 20 pages of thread and yes, I have a scumread on lian. The strongest, but not strong. So you didn't had any reads at page 20? You think that it's impossible? I think it's entirely strange that the part I highlighted in red shows that you think that nobody has done anything towny at all yet and how it sucks but instead of checking if that's actually true and maybe re-evaluating that by actually reading the whole game and MAYBE changing your mind on your scum read on lian who you don't even know if he shits town rainbows since page 19 you decide to say that you're going to make a full blown case on him. Without reading the rest of the game. That's the strangest thing i've seen in a while. I was talking about the game until the page I was at. I'm sorry I had opinions on page 20 what use is a read up to page 20 when there's 20+ more pages to read and everything could have changed? It just screams of wanting to appear to contribute and get post count up because you're afraid of having an empty filter with no contributions There's a lot of content on 20 pages HF. I can give reads that nobody gave yet and it will also help you reading me.
There's more content in 40 pages that would be more than enough to COMPLETELY change any read you have up on it's head, I don't even know why you're contesting this at all. You're literally working with 50% information and saying that it's better than 100%. If you had the same reads after you read all the game I wouldn't even be bringing this up but you're being stubborn on a point which is a no brainer.
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On October 24 2014 11:36 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2014 11:33 Holyflare wrote:
It's like we're all playing fifa/nfl/randomEAsportsgamethatupdateseveryyear 2015 because it's the most up to date one with all the new features but you're like "no man it's cool i'm gonna spend some time playing fifa/nfl/randomeasportsgamethatupdateseveryyear 1998-2015 because I want to tell you about all the features that have changed!" but the thing is we already played every fifa every year so we already know those changes and it's irrelevant to us now, we'd like to know what's coming in fifa 2016 or hidden things we've missed in 2015 "I found a bug on FIFA 1998 that I doubt it was fixed on the subsequent fifas" No but really, your analogy is off. If your analogy was right I should never look at previous meta because it would be FIFA 1998
no it's "I found a bug on fifa 1998 but I haven't played fifa 2015 to see if it even still exists yet before I even tell you that it started in fifa 1998"
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On October 24 2014 11:37 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2014 11:35 Holyflare wrote:On October 24 2014 11:32 GlowingBear wrote:On October 24 2014 11:29 Holyflare wrote:On October 24 2014 11:24 GlowingBear wrote:On October 24 2014 10:59 Holyflare wrote:On October 24 2014 10:56 GlowingBear wrote:On October 24 2014 10:47 Holyflare wrote:On October 24 2014 10:30 GlowingBear wrote:On October 24 2014 10:25 Damdred wrote:
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Bear, I think these are great reasons that these guys aren't the beautiful town they are pretending to be.
look at storrs filter man, compare it to the other games he played in.Hes a serious person in every game, but everything is coming off so fake this game his fights seem fake. His pressure feels fake, everything about him seems fake. Hes also obtuse and he filled up the thread with a fight over nothing to get town disorganized at the start.
Lian hasn't posted a lot of really insightful posts this game either. Last game I scum read him for refusing to do things, so my hesitation...actually screw that. Hes wishy washy a lot of his filter is fluff, he tried to get ff into a rage and has seemed to avoid things and takes soft stances i might of mentioned that already.
hf gives some unsubstantiated reads, and his list of people he wants to lynch is mostly lazy people or lurkers. Could be mafia in their but just doesn't seem like a townhf thing to do. Storr was really serious when we both played mafia together. He also posted a lot less than he is posting now. So you believe lian and storr are mafia together. Do you think mafia would bus for so long, specially considering this is still day1? HF needs to step up, I'm also not liking his gameplay. On October 24 2014 10:40 GlowingBear wrote:On October 24 2014 10:35 Damdred wrote:
I know what you are doing here bear bear but i'll go along until i finish this drink.
People can change their playstyle to fit their needs.
The possibility is their, its probably a low possibility i have no idea how lian plays scum. But they seem a bit ok instead of just pushing each other they seem to be at peace so not seeing much bus after initial.
Bear, tell me your scum reads or are you still catching up I'm stilll at page 19. I don't think I'll be able to finish catching up today but anyway...
I want to call everyone in the game scum. Nobody has done anything quite townie yet. Which sucks.
But until now my strongest scumread is lian. Gonna make a case on him.Damdy, would storr and lian bus themselves so early if they are both mafia? what the fuck is this, you've read half of the thread, don't know what on earth people are posting yet at all because you aren't caught up with 50% of the game and you are already making a super strong scum read + wanting to make a case on them and you're talking about people's play throughout the whole game? 20 pages of thread and yes, I have a scumread on lian. The strongest, but not strong. So you didn't had any reads at page 20? You think that it's impossible? I think it's entirely strange that the part I highlighted in red shows that you think that nobody has done anything towny at all yet and how it sucks but instead of checking if that's actually true and maybe re-evaluating that by actually reading the whole game and MAYBE changing your mind on your scum read on lian who you don't even know if he shits town rainbows since page 19 you decide to say that you're going to make a full blown case on him. Without reading the rest of the game. That's the strangest thing i've seen in a while. I was talking about the game until the page I was at. I'm sorry I had opinions on page 20 what use is a read up to page 20 when there's 20+ more pages to read and everything could have changed? It just screams of wanting to appear to contribute and get post count up because you're afraid of having an empty filter with no contributions There's a lot of content on 20 pages HF. I can give reads that nobody gave yet and it will also help you reading me. There's more content in 40 pages that would be more than enough to COMPLETELY change any read you have up on it's head, I don't even know why you're contesting this at all. You're literally working with 50% information and saying that it's better than 100%. If you had the same reads after you read all the game I wouldn't even be bringing this up but you're being stubborn on a point which is a no brainer. Ok HF, from the case I posted, what's different?
I literally just explained it to you, he's baiting people for reactions and trying to get them to converse about him and made that list post about why he's playing a bit differently from last game where he was trying hard and got shot by the vig. He's disproved half your case. Like 50% of your case is that he's not playing how he explained but when does anyone ever trust self meta ever? Why does that make him mafia in the slightest, what stops it being someone disgruntled from being scum read why is it a mafia trait to be wrong about yourself!??!?! Like I said the only relevant part was that he hasn't posted his conclusions from reactions (I haven't even really checked if he actually has) but even then I've seen plenty of townies do the same thing and I actually even town read him for other things/not giving a crap about things sooo there's that too
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On October 24 2014 11:18 GlowingBear wrote:
What does he get from people's reaction? Nobody knows.
tl;dr = lian says he need to get into conversation to evaluate reactions, but he is not putting effort into getting into conversations and he is not giving reads on people's reaction. Just posting a lot of random jokes.
He is not interested in solving the game. (wouldn't say this is even particularly true) Therefore, mafia.
^^ this is a better version
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On October 24 2014 11:44 GlowingBear wrote:
Oh god...
Attack my post, not me.
Good night.
I literally do not see how anything I wrote is attacking you in the slightest instead of just completely showing you why your post is half wrong?!?!?!?!?!
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I think this pretty much debunks the entirety of your case though:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/468053-fantasy-football-ffl-mini?page=31#601
That's storr's case from the last fantasy and it's pretty much a longer winded version of yours and lian was town in that game too and got scum read for very similar things (what are his real reads etc) so it kind of doesn't actually mean anything that he hasn't outright scum read someone (he poe'd in that game from other reads) it just doesn't make him scum for those particular reasons
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5. Fecalfeast
6. batsnacks
7. Elvis!
8. GlowingBear
13. raynpelikoneet
Maybe remove you, MAYBE gb although not entirely sure yet have to do some reading, might have to add someone back to it in a bit
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On October 24 2014 11:54 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2014 11:43 Holyflare wrote:On October 24 2014 11:37 GlowingBear wrote:On October 24 2014 11:35 Holyflare wrote:On October 24 2014 11:32 GlowingBear wrote:On October 24 2014 11:29 Holyflare wrote:On October 24 2014 11:24 GlowingBear wrote:On October 24 2014 10:59 Holyflare wrote:On October 24 2014 10:56 GlowingBear wrote:On October 24 2014 10:47 Holyflare wrote:
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what the fuck is this, you've read half of the thread, don't know what on earth people are posting yet at all because you aren't caught up with 50% of the game and you are already making a super strong scum read + wanting to make a case on them and you're talking about people's play throughout the whole game? 20 pages of thread and yes, I have a scumread on lian. The strongest, but not strong. So you didn't had any reads at page 20? You think that it's impossible? I think it's entirely strange that the part I highlighted in red shows that you think that nobody has done anything towny at all yet and how it sucks but instead of checking if that's actually true and maybe re-evaluating that by actually reading the whole game and MAYBE changing your mind on your scum read on lian who you don't even know if he shits town rainbows since page 19 you decide to say that you're going to make a full blown case on him. Without reading the rest of the game. That's the strangest thing i've seen in a while. I was talking about the game until the page I was at. I'm sorry I had opinions on page 20 what use is a read up to page 20 when there's 20+ more pages to read and everything could have changed? It just screams of wanting to appear to contribute and get post count up because you're afraid of having an empty filter with no contributions There's a lot of content on 20 pages HF. I can give reads that nobody gave yet and it will also help you reading me. There's more content in 40 pages that would be more than enough to COMPLETELY change any read you have up on it's head, I don't even know why you're contesting this at all. You're literally working with 50% information and saying that it's better than 100%. If you had the same reads after you read all the game I wouldn't even be bringing this up but you're being stubborn on a point which is a no brainer. Ok HF, from the case I posted, what's different? I literally just explained it to you, he's baiting people for reactions and trying to get them to converse about him and made that list post about why he's playing a bit differently from last game where he was trying hard and got shot by the vig. He's disproved half your case. Like 50% of your case is that he's not playing how he explained but when does anyone ever trust self meta ever? Why does that make him mafia in the slightest, what stops it being someone disgruntled from being scum read why is it a mafia trait to be wrong about yourself!??!?! Like I said the only relevant part was that he hasn't posted his conclusions from reactions (I haven't even really checked if he actually has) but even then I've seen plenty of townies do the same thing and I actually even town read him for other things/not giving a crap about things sooo there's that too Best way to play as town right? Acting scummy to get people talking and not actually contributing to the thread. That's the thing, HF. He isn't bringing his conclusions regarding reactions. Any alignment can do that.And if he is town, he is playing anti town because he is making us wasting our time talking about him.
If this is what you think then your whole case is actually a giant case on a null tell
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On October 23 2014 23:14 liancourt wrote:
you aren't your usual "serious storr".
I've seen you play in the last game and I read your game on the one before. You were totally serious throughout. It's funneh you're making light jokes now and trying to be useful to town. You're never trying to be useful to town. You go on your gut instinct and push with that. Now you're actually trying to think what would a townie do at this point. How would a townie react in this situation? You're acting like a townie, but not being yourself. taadaa~ voila!~
On October 23 2014 23:45 liancourt wrote:
if storr decided to branch off that squirmish with jat into a full fled tunnel war i'd think he'd be town. But he gave multiple scum reads and they were practically all omgus. Very unlike storr.
On October 23 2014 23:58 liancourt wrote:
hmm i'd have to converse with them directly to give a good read on them. Last time it didn't work out so well since I was forced to make reads when i didn't have a read on them at all.
I can tell you about jat seems pretty townie pushing things forward.
On October 24 2014 00:55 liancourt wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2014 10:46 DrParnassus wrote:
hf i'm pretty sure one of us is mafia Based on hfs post analyzing my mafai post im inclined to see this guy as town also. And probably whoever made that mafai post lemme check. And hf for analyzing that post...didnt really think anyone would.
On October 24 2014 01:05 liancourt wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2014 16:46 Alakaslam wrote:On October 23 2014 16:31 batsnacks wrote:Look at this: On October 23 2014 15:59 Alakaslam wrote:On October 23 2014 15:58 Holyflare wrote:
Yes but there's silly town reads based off nothing and then there's even more silly associative town reads based off of original nothing, you've managed to cross some weird line Nonetheless FITE me And decal fe ast U thro f irst push I know all about your hidden meanings and messages. I deciphered your code. You are taunting us by claiming mafia in this post by spelling out "mAfia" with the red letters. Are you surprised I found you out so easily? SSON Is scraping bottom of barrel Spells mafai Oh so it was slam and bats pretty townie they look jolly
much the same kind of reads as what you just quoted
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well that's cool but I don't because I have a larger town read on him than you do a scum read
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every response I throw out at you that disproves everything you call him scummy for showing you that he can do that as town you try and parry and still call him scum, it's pretty scummy
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On October 24 2014 12:04 DrParnassus wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2014 11:55 Holyflare wrote:
5. Fecalfeast
6. batsnacks
7. Elvis!
8. GlowingBear
13. raynpelikoneet
Maybe remove you, MAYBE gb although not entirely sure yet have to do some reading, might have to add someone back to it in a bit that's exactly where I'm at except I still haven't decided about you yet. but for now GB and FF are off my watch list
well i'm just exceptionally lazy this game, I actually expected more people to call me out on it but nobody really has apart from like 1 person
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On October 24 2014 12:05 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2014 12:04 DrParnassus wrote:On October 24 2014 11:55 Holyflare wrote:
5. Fecalfeast
6. batsnacks
7. Elvis!
8. GlowingBear
13. raynpelikoneet
Maybe remove you, MAYBE gb although not entirely sure yet have to do some reading, might have to add someone back to it in a bit that's exactly where I'm at except I still haven't decided about you yet. but for now GB and FF are off my watch list well i'm just exceptionally lazy this game, I actually expected more people to call me out on it but nobody really has apart from like 1 person
which totally proves that i'm town because mafia is too scared to even push me
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On October 24 2014 12:02 DrParnassus wrote:
hf are you willing to lynch rayn on D1?
i'm willing to lynch people that look like mafia and could very well be mafia yes, nobody is really exempt
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what games has gb been mafia in?
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yeh read the other games and gb very very likely town
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5. Fecalfeast
6. batsnacks
13. raynpelikoneet
very tempted to add kush back on there because he came back and did absolutely nothing but reply to something irrelevant even if i did like his initial entry but i wouldn't say that's super hard to do as either alignment, at a stretch I'd add thrawn back for not being very conversational at all whatsoever and just having reads (even if they are super similar) and that's about it, his reasons for his reads were very straightforward and not very critical thinkingish... lian... i dunno i'm just not feeling him being mafia i dunno, damd has to post more for me to solidify some things
##vote batsnacks for best push today
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super defends lian and doesn't really have any scum reads
calls out posts as super towny, towniest post etc when they aren't particularly
has a weird "push" on ff but it's not even a push or any pressure and based on super strong town read on lian which i don't think any sensible person would have at this point in time
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On October 24 2014 13:09 DrParnassus wrote:
I'm feeling a policy lynch unless elvis reveals himself. I've actually lost a game that I could have won if I'd have known the identity of a smurf who ended up being mafia.
hf you know this
his account is super old and has no posts but he played in a newbie.... don't really get it
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