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GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
October 17 2014 00:03 GMT
#1921
Also Dandel that was such a lazy fucking daypost
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
October 17 2014 00:06 GMT
#1922
Freeeeeeeeedom!
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
October 17 2014 00:09 GMT
#1923
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
October 17 2014 00:42 GMT
#1924
Huh that was weird.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 17 2014 00:49 GMT
#1925
Alright so owb WAS having a case of the 'I-know-way-toomuch's'
On October 16 2014 06:00 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2014 11:59 onlywonderboy wrote:
Alright. First things first, I think the push for Wave being scum is mostly unwarranted. He has a lot of experience so it's easy to get caught up in the idea of "OMG if he's mafia we're screwed because he has the most experience and we have to be extra suspicious of him." That said, his play hasn't been inherently scummy. There have been several occasions where's he's tried to take control of the conversation and guide the town away from certain topics (the modkill discussion comes to mind). I believe that's honestly him trying to move the town in the direction of finding scum instead of limiting town options. He was the most active member Day 1 and I think he did the town more good than harm Day 1, no reason to even consider him for a Day 2 lynch atm.

That said, even though ketchup is the one pushing back on Wave's play the most, I also think he's town. I can see how Wave's play could seem abrasive and confusing to newer players so I think ketchup is just seeing it as scum play even though sometimes it takes a strong hand to lead the town in the right direction.

As far as scum goes I currently believe Asmo is scum. He's been fairly vocal but I don't think he's really contributed much of note. His actions around the lynch just seems a little off too. He switched off Ghandi just because of his long impassioned post that didn't really have that much substance. I think he felt comfortable pushing MB because it was clear a lot of people agreed it was a fine lynch and he could easily fall back on the defense of "he was a lurker anyway" when MoonBear flipped town. He did push MB early, but that was done to call him out for being a lurker which, again, can easily be defended. Pushing lurkers is important but it can also be a tactic for scum to actively look like they are doing town work. Also I don't like his post after the lynch. Just seems like he's trying to play up the fact he's a noob and his actions should be pardoned because he went about the first night wrong. Just rubbed me the wrong way.



this post, owb.
How are your insights so good so as for you to get everything 'right' in this post (that is to say, from my POV). You defend me when nobody else does.

Show nested quote +
On October 13 2014 12:53 onlywonderboy wrote:
On October 13 2014 12:37 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Anything else?

Nothing really else of note. Seemed like a pretty standard Day 1 from the mafia games I played. A lot of name calling and people trying their name, people calling out lurkers, ect. Had I been caught up with the game by lynch time I would have gone ahead with Wave and switched my vote.

Why add this? It's completely non-indicative of anything and it just looks as though you want on my good side.

There's SO much of this kind of posting in your filter and I was willing to ignore it for a while because I just thought you were being good town-bro 'cause we came up with a lot of the same shit but that recent voting thing man may have been the straw.

Well it took me a while but at least I'm getting there.
I have to do some massive re-evaluation of all my reads. I had a pretty good reason to think mordek was town but I think I'm going to drop that reason. I think the same may very well go for Req.

Unfortunately I can only really trust 6ah right now so it's back to square one. Alzadar I sincerely hope you were roleblocked. Scum have only one option for NK tomorrow night and that's you now, and if you don't die then we have a problem on our hands (or scum is dumb/ballsy). No other deaths last night means we either don't have another role, somebody doublestacked owb or somebody didn't speak up with their role usage.

At this point if we have another blue I think it's safe to claim because scum HAS to kill Alz tonight no matter what (correct me if I'm wrong on this btw)

Um...more vomit to follow when I gather my thoughts.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 17 2014 00:55 GMT
#1926
I think I MAY be willing to clear Jeff for now based on his pressure on owb when nobody else was---I'm not sure there's a point for scum to bus like that when owb wasn't under the gun for any true reason.

I also think req looks a great deal worse thanks to that owb flip. Not so much for anything specifically related to owb but the fact that the two of them played in COMPLETELY the opposite fashion in regards to me. OWB rode my towny dick all day and night, and req won't shut up about lynching me. It's the absolute furthest in distancing from each other they could possibly be.

Just a theory.

As for mordek...yeah I had some out-of-thread reasons for assuming he was town. I am hereby dropping those reasons and I will be filtering him at some point because he may very well be our lynch today.

I'm on the fence re: Asmo and Alaric is somewhere above that.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
October 17 2014 01:25 GMT
#1927
You are not paying attention if you think I'm not town at this point.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
October 17 2014 01:27 GMT
#1928
Requizen
mordek
GhandiEAGLE
AsmodeusXI
WaveofShadow
Alaric

Two of you are filthy scum.

Requizen, Ghandhi and Asmodeus have the most suspicious posting styles.

mordek doesn't post much, which I suppose is suspicious in itself.

Wave and Alaric I've thought were town since Day 1, but all bets are off now I think, regardless of the advice of the dead.

I'd like to see first impression votes from people.

##Vote: AsmodeusXI

Don't consider this a condemnation, I just want to get things moving. I need to go back and look at how all the votes shifted around D1 and D2, I bet there's a pattern to find.
I am the Town Medic.
Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
October 17 2014 01:44 GMT
#1929
Alza who did you protect.
Hug The Goat! Hug the Goat! Hug the Goat!
Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
October 17 2014 01:45 GMT
#1930
nvm just saw your post.
Hug The Goat! Hug the Goat! Hug the Goat!
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 17 2014 01:46 GMT
#1931
On October 17 2014 10:25 mordek wrote:
You are not paying attention if you think I'm not town at this point.

Based on.....
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
October 17 2014 01:59 GMT
#1932
I have no clue what the right play is here. It's Alaric and Asmo tho
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
October 17 2014 02:00 GMT
#1933
On October 17 2014 10:46 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2014 10:25 mordek wrote:
You are not paying attention if you think I'm not town at this point.

Based on.....

Nothing, he just keeps claiming he's town.

but srs VINDICATION AT LAST
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 17 2014 02:04 GMT
#1934
On October 17 2014 10:59 mordek wrote:
I have no clue what the right play is here. It's Alaric and Asmo tho

Based...
on.....
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
October 17 2014 02:11 GMT
#1935
Ok it's a numbers game, and I'm basically vanilla at this point so I can't think why not.
Hi I'm your friendly drugstore pharmacist aka the Town Poisoner
I'll inform you that I decided with the delayed kill I needed to act N1. Ghandi and Soniv were my highest scum reads as I've stated multiple times.
So I poisoned Soniv because I figured Jeff was a very likely target D2. We might get a double scum flip :O
Obviously it turns out to be a terrible read. I used my antidote on soniv in the off chance he would live otherwise. I'm posting from my phone but just look at my night posts.
Anyways I figure now is the time to get town consolidated because there's no one left to shield anymore and I've used both vials.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
October 17 2014 02:12 GMT
#1936
+ Show Spoiler [Vote Tallies] +
Requizen has voted for Lord Tolkien and WaveofShadow

mordek has voted for Cixah, Lord Tolkien, Alzadar, GhandhiEAGLE and jcarlsoniv

Ghandhi has voted for MoonBear, WaveofShadow, Cixah, ComaDose, Alzadar, jcarlsoniv, mordek

Asmodeus has voted for MoonBear, Ghandhi, Alzadar, ComaDose, Ghandhi, jcarlsoniv

WaveofShadow has voted for MoonBear, Ghandhi, Lord Tolkien, Asmodeus, ComaDose, Alzadar, jcarlsoniv, mordek

Alaric has voted for MoonBear, Asmodeus, ComaDose, Ghandhi, jcarlsoniv

onlywonderboy never received a vote from anyone. He voted for mordek and Ghandhi


So, do OWB's votes clear mordek and Ghandhi? Not really. mordek was a pressure vote, and he quickly removed it. Ghandhi was the center of attention for most of the day and it's a plausible bus.

I made Coma red because TL doesn't have purple. wtf. Colour discrimination!




So...

There are 15 possible scum combinations.

Req and mordek - have not voted for each other
Req and Ghandhi - have not voted for each other
Req and Asmodeus - have not voted for each other
Req and Wave - Req has voted for Wave, not the other way though
Req and Alaric - have not voted for each other
mordek and Ghandhi - have both voted for the other
mordek and Asmodeus - have not voted for each other
mordek and Wave - Wave has voted for modek, not the other way though
mordek and Alaric - have not voted for each other
Ghandhi and Asmodeus - everyone vote for Ghandhi except Req
Ghandhi and Wave - everyone vote for Ghandhi except Req
Ghandhi and Alaric - everyone vote for Ghandhi except Req
Asmodeus and Wave - Wave has voted for Asmo, not the other way though
Asmodeus and Alaric - Alaric has voted for Asmodeus, not the other way though
Wave and Alaric - have not voted for each other




I was hoping to see something clearer emerge. Requizen has been the most reserved with his votes, and hasn't voted for any confirmed enemies yet. Same goes for mordek, and the two of them have not voted for each other (not in itself suspicious).

Obviously need to investigate pairings deeper than this, but that's all I've got for now.
I am the Town Medic.
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
October 17 2014 02:14 GMT
#1937
I never voted for him Alaric, but I was clearly hounding OWB repeatedly, especially when nobody else was. Just looking at votes doesn't show a lot from me at all really since, until the end of each day, I was quite conservative with them.
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
October 17 2014 02:15 GMT
#1938
Alzadar, not Alaric, sorry just saw the A
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
October 17 2014 02:16 GMT
#1939
Just saw mordek's post, I think I believe that.

So I guess we can assume Coma poisoned Ketchup, and there is no Mafia Poisoner? Or he also poisoned someone who's not deceased.
I am the Town Medic.
Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
October 17 2014 02:19 GMT
#1940
Plenty of time, I think with mordek's Poisoner role in mind I can go more in depth with the possible pairings, 5 choose 2 is only 10.
I am the Town Medic.
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