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On October 17 2014 04:05 WaveofShadow wrote: Where did Asmo post? Also Alaric could you condense that monstrosity a little bit? I can honestly say I have e no idea of the final messages I'm supposed to get from that. Some tl;dr on each point, if you please.
tl;dr don't trust Mr. Karate
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On October 17 2014 04:41 AsmodeusXI wrote:Look who's talking. 
Now look who's talking.
Also Req wtf why would we not play another game after this one?
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*after an acceptable rest period to ease off paranoia
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Ever since Wave's comment I've been thinking of troll Mafia setups.
I think my favorite is 10x Cop, 1x Miller, 3x Godfather.
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On October 17 2014 05:20 onlywonderboy wrote: Hmm, finally caught up. I'm still racking my brain trying to figure out why everything went down as it did. I'm uncertain about a lot of things but I'm interested to see what happens when Day 3 starts. I've been pretty inactive so sorry about about but it's been an incredibly busy day and I'll still be indisposed for a while. Will pop in when I can.
What's your stance on Ghandhi post-flip? He was your main target D2.
Jeff following the town bandwagon doesn't really do much either way since it's what you'd expect whether he's scum or town.
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On October 17 2014 05:56 WaveofShadow wrote: I guess I'll elaborate if I survive the night and if I can..
Please not a repeat of this...
On October 14 2014 08:14 Lord Tolkien wrote: 4) lots of people will be reevaluated when i get home. Highly doubt ill get shot lol. If so, lelscum.
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I'm mildly disappointed in TL for not at least getting a "Go ahead Tac-Com".
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Nobody around? Such a contrast from last night.
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Don't have time to really analyze what Soniv just dumped.
I'm protecting Soniv tonight. My life for Aiur!
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Woah. ComaDose strikes true!
I was roleblocked though, obviously.
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Requizen mordek GhandiEAGLE AsmodeusXI WaveofShadow Alaric
Two of you are filthy scum.
Requizen, Ghandhi and Asmodeus have the most suspicious posting styles.
mordek doesn't post much, which I suppose is suspicious in itself.
Wave and Alaric I've thought were town since Day 1, but all bets are off now I think, regardless of the advice of the dead.
I'd like to see first impression votes from people.
##Vote: AsmodeusXI
Don't consider this a condemnation, I just want to get things moving. I need to go back and look at how all the votes shifted around D1 and D2, I bet there's a pattern to find.
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+ Show Spoiler [Vote Tallies] +Requizen has voted for Lord Tolkien and WaveofShadow
mordek has voted for Cixah, Lord Tolkien, Alzadar, GhandhiEAGLE and jcarlsoniv
Ghandhi has voted for MoonBear, WaveofShadow, Cixah, ComaDose, Alzadar, jcarlsoniv, mordek
Asmodeus has voted for MoonBear, Ghandhi, Alzadar, ComaDose, Ghandhi, jcarlsoniv
WaveofShadow has voted for MoonBear, Ghandhi, Lord Tolkien, Asmodeus, ComaDose, Alzadar, jcarlsoniv, mordek
Alaric has voted for MoonBear, Asmodeus, ComaDose, Ghandhi, jcarlsoniv
onlywonderboy never received a vote from anyone. He voted for mordek and Ghandhi
So, do OWB's votes clear mordek and Ghandhi? Not really. mordek was a pressure vote, and he quickly removed it. Ghandhi was the center of attention for most of the day and it's a plausible bus.
I made Coma red because TL doesn't have purple. wtf. Colour discrimination!
So...
There are 15 possible scum combinations.
Req and mordek - have not voted for each other Req and Ghandhi - have not voted for each other Req and Asmodeus - have not voted for each other Req and Wave - Req has voted for Wave, not the other way though Req and Alaric - have not voted for each other mordek and Ghandhi - have both voted for the other mordek and Asmodeus - have not voted for each other mordek and Wave - Wave has voted for modek, not the other way though mordek and Alaric - have not voted for each other Ghandhi and Asmodeus - everyone vote for Ghandhi except Req Ghandhi and Wave - everyone vote for Ghandhi except Req Ghandhi and Alaric - everyone vote for Ghandhi except Req Asmodeus and Wave - Wave has voted for Asmo, not the other way though Asmodeus and Alaric - Alaric has voted for Asmodeus, not the other way though Wave and Alaric - have not voted for each other
I was hoping to see something clearer emerge. Requizen has been the most reserved with his votes, and hasn't voted for any confirmed enemies yet. Same goes for mordek, and the two of them have not voted for each other (not in itself suspicious).
Obviously need to investigate pairings deeper than this, but that's all I've got for now.
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Just saw mordek's post, I think I believe that.
So I guess we can assume Coma poisoned Ketchup, and there is no Mafia Poisoner? Or he also poisoned someone who's not deceased.
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Plenty of time, I think with mordek's Poisoner role in mind I can go more in depth with the possible pairings, 5 choose 2 is only 10.
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On October 17 2014 11:14 GhandiEAGLE wrote: I never voted for him Alaric, but I was clearly hounding OWB repeatedly, especially when nobody else was. Just looking at votes doesn't show a lot from me at all really since, until the end of each day, I was quite conservative with them.
Obviously there's much more than votes, that post is mostly a reference for myself but I might as well share. The town's cards are all on the table now.
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On October 17 2014 12:41 Requizen wrote: Also Alzadar's claim is sketchy as butts to me right now. I don't know, I just feel like the likelyhood of near-lynching two blues in a row seems small. And when the only one left standing can't prove himself in any way, I don't really know if I would trust him as far as I could throw him. Soniv turned out to be true, but he gave something close to evidence that he was "leaking" his role to observant readers, so I was more willing to accept it.
I would have thought so as well, and I thought I was doing a pretty good job of supporting the Town without drawing too much scum attention until Cixah had a random urge and you all got excited about crunch time shenanigans (I have to admit, I would have gotten carried away as well).
I didn't realize overt "breadcrumbing" was a thing like Soniv did. But if you read carefully you'll see I actually was trying to subtly feel around and see what people thought the Medic ought to do or did do. I never said "hey guys what should the Medic do?", but I tried to move conversation towards those topics.
On October 11 2014 10:25 Alzadar wrote: I would assume Wave is a high priority target for mafia
On October 14 2014 09:20 Alzadar wrote: Well not necessarily right? You're discounting Medic and Jailkeeper who might have prevented a Townie's kill (safe bet that Tolkien was scum kill). It's too dangerous still for blues to out themselves but you shouldn't assume we've got no Vig.
On October 14 2014 09:48 Alzadar wrote:I'm not as convinced as Wave we don't have a Vig. There's more than one way the Vigilante could have been stopped - Medic on the target, Jailkeep on the target, Jailkeep on the Vig, Roleblock on the Vig.
Anyways, I'm your Medic, and I'm all you've got now, except for a Poisoner with no vials. I'll be dead tomorrow morning, but I'd like to actually see a scummer get lynched before I go.
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On October 18 2014 00:24 mordek wrote: There doesn't seem to be any apparent connection between Req and Asmo.
I'm not sure. Asmo has been very consistently casually defensive of Req:
On October 12 2014 05:28 AsmodeusXI wrote: We also have our townies: Alaric and Req. Also, I don't see Req's attitude as a cover YET. However, if townies start falling around him, I'll totally revisit that because it'd be a DAMN good play for scum. But it comes back the fact that I don't think either player is good enough at Mafia yet to being lying based on the contents of their posts thus far.
On October 12 2014 23:58 AsmodeusXI wrote: Also, LT, you're jumping on Req's case for noob stuff, even to the extent of a policy lynch on him as if he were lurker scum, but 6ah and I have done similarly bad noob BS. Why Req more than anyone else?
On October 13 2014 07:40 AsmodeusXI wrote: And Req's right... MB does have a sparse posting schedule in general. Some people don't have that excuse.
On October 15 2014 10:40 AsmodeusXI wrote: At this point, we all kinda know how Req plays: volatile states, prone to lashing out. It's emotional play because Req's a sensitive dude (and this is not meant to offend sir), and it's easily manipulatable (even ketchup got his goat, and that was probably unintentional). If Soniv wants to cover his tracks well, the best way to do it is to set off Req since it's unlikely he'll be able to get a rise out of Wave at this point, and no one else has proven to be so easy to control (again, don't mean to offend buddy). That also fits in with the "fake anger" that Alaric pointed out: play an emotional game, get easy emotional feedback. I think the intent of this is to get the focus away from Soniv and onto Req, and I think it's working. Which is dangerous (Wave sees that).
On October 15 2014 11:34 AsmodeusXI wrote:I'm not excusing it, I'm saying I'm buying it so far. Req's posting style all over this site reads like this on his bad days, and you and I both know that. His last game went into this direction at points, and you were in it with him. You're a good enough player that if you wanted to take advantage of that, I think you could. Show nested quote + I don't understand why you'd be praising his scum play. He's playing so scummy that there's no way he's scum? And therefore it's masterful? Not a chance.
I don't know how well Req can fake his angry self. That's what would make it impressive to me
On October 16 2014 06:03 AsmodeusXI wrote: I don't THINK Coma is scum, but he could still flip red (just unlikely to me). Same with Req, but he's more vocal and that ground been trodden.
The reverse is also true.
On October 14 2014 03:04 Requizen wrote: Filter check: AsmodeusXI Feeling: Town Posting Habits: Reasonable
Asmo's posts give me a green vibe. I'm not trusting him yet, but I in no way have a bad feeling from him. Yes, he voted for MB, but he made that call very early and gave reasoning for it before the train began running. I have not agreed with every call he's made (for example, his aggression towards AFKers and his tirade against Jeff), but I think he's more town and anything.
The only thing that stands out to me is his post after MB flipped green - the anger and regretfulness is in line with his normal posting style, but it only feels a little too forward, as if Mafia!Asmo is trying to force sounding regretful about his decision.
But then, I've started to feel a bit mistrustful of any post that isn't strictly productive towards saving the town.
This supports Asmo as town without being overly committal about it.
It's also happened twice that someone makes a post listing Asmo as a suspect and Req is quick to reply with a redirection "what about these other people?".
This may be a confirmation bias though, it's probably possible to find a lot of these vaguely supportive pairings.
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On October 18 2014 01:34 WaveofShadow wrote: Upon reading owb's filter, I think the poisoner claim could be fake. I have to do some looking into owb's past games too.
I really want to hear more about this, I can't make anything out of OWB's filter.
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On October 18 2014 01:48 WaveofShadow wrote: His father is pretty juicy tbh.
LOL
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