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Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12084 Posts
October 12 2014 22:47 GMT
#721
I kind of want to lynch ketchup for continuing to instigate the whole "o my god don't listen to them they're vets, MANIPULATION" line of thought.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
October 12 2014 22:48 GMT
#722
On October 13 2014 07:38 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2014 07:36 Alaric wrote:
On October 13 2014 07:16 WaveofShadow wrote:
On October 13 2014 07:13 Alaric wrote:
On October 13 2014 06:22 WaveofShadow wrote:
On October 13 2014 06:19 AsmodeusXI wrote:
I'm glad we could see eye to eye Alaric.

@MB, I want to point out that I'm still open to be swayed. No one's 100% guilty on D1. Come @ me with something good and I'll switch to that lurker scumbag Coma because he certainly hasn't done much good for himself. Vice versa for you Coma. Why aren't you scum?

Haha what say you now Alaric

See my post right after yours for a more detailed explanation.

Although in retrospect I told myself that overly clinging to one's first impression and being fiercely confrontational was also something Tolkien did, and in the very same post I wrote that it made me rethink a bit if that wasn't a town move from me. Why wouldn't Moonbear benefit from the same treatment for how he behaved?
It could be pointed out that both you and Tolkien have some experience under your belts, which makes me more likely to "accept" that there's a reason behind you doing that I'm too green to grasp yet.

On the other hand, just because it's Moonbear's first game doesn't mean he's not maybe better at this kind of things than you. An issue for me here is that I have no idea what "serious" Moonbear is like, since he's always that jolly cheerful fellow with us in the off-topic thread (heck, even when he warns me it's more like "PSA from your friendly neighbour"!), which muddies my expectations.
But in the end I said I'd rather vote for someone dubious than an afk*, so I'm looking at him right now.
Moonbear, what that means is that you're close to a default lynch than a 100% scum read for me, so if you wanna stay alive it's up to you buddy! Be convincing, preferable before I go to bed.



* my "policy" in terms of lynching lurkers is that I assume noone will lie and pretend they have RL stuff to justify them lurking, and Mafia's still a game in the end, so I'd rather have everyone play.
It means I'm wary of lynching people who've been away for non-game reasons, while someone who participated, even if he's lynched day 1 will have at least had a go at it (syntax?). Obviously the more time passes the less it holds, and I won't be as "lenient" in that regard come day 2.
Cf. the "carebear" post.

I have no idea what you're talking about here.
I was referring to the fact that you removed your vote from Asmo and then he goes and scums it up a little by talking about how he's giving himself and others opening to control his voting patterns rather than take responsibility for them himself.

Oh. That.
Well I'm not 100% sure either and I tend to be a pretty passive person in general (as in "I gather as much information as I can until I'm as sure as I think I'll ever be, and even then I have doubts"), so I'm technically still opened to "swaying" myself, as I mentioned with the "for lack of a better option".

I assume it's normal for day 1, though, since even the vets are unsure? And it should be better once day 2 rolls around and we have firmer reads.
Also who is BH and what's that RNG talk?

Don't worry about the RNG business. And yes a lot of people are unsure, but announcing to the thread that your vote is essentially not being determined by your own ideals means that if you mislynch you don't have to be blamed for it. Dun like it.

Uh... I guess I can see what you're getting at. Although in my case that means I'm going to stick to my guns (eg. Moonbear) because I value formulating one's opinion (see the whole Asmo thing) over taking the bet that Moonbear will not only bring more to the town than Ghandi (odds in his favour for this considering how "not-caring" Ghandi has seemed up to now, but that's assuming Moonbear is town to begin with which I'm doubting), but also enough that we don't feel the need to off him later (which current-not-caring Ghandi would probably require, as you pointed out, hence contributing-Moonbear would "save" us a shot/lynch).
At the moment I don't feel like taking this bet is worth it.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
October 12 2014 22:48 GMT
#723
Ok I've caught up.

I want to address first the "gives no fucks" part that Wave really wants to label me with. it's bullshit, I didn't expect how seriously Wave was planning on taking the game, so I started with some innocent poking at him, but just because I'm not hounding people as rabidly as he is does not mean that I dont give any fucks about the game. That's ridiculous and represents a lot of the hyperbole Wave has been throwing around.

Secondly, I stopped talking for awhile because it seemed like everything I said was hurting myself (which it probably was). I didn't want to cause more damage, and i legit didn't feel like I had a productive line of reasoning to add for awhile. I haven't been lurking, I just wasn't here at all since I was otherwise occupied. I have literally no agenda in this game from the posts I've made, so every "this sounds scummy" read is just empty ammunition. I think it shows a lot of how little conjecture you can actually make considering most people here haven't played before, and don't have a specific mindset going into the game.

I'm a simple vanilla town minding to my own crops.

Also, since beyond that I haven't said much of real value, I've come to agree with Ketchup that Wave is more or less throwing his weight around in a scummy fashion. I was being serious when I pushed for Wave earlier, but that didn't gain any traction so I wanted to see how people would react if I started voting for Cixah and getting people to move, which like I said earlier clearly backfired.

I later switched to Moonbear not to create reactions but because all of his answers either dodged the question through long text or actually raised more questions for me. Considering he has retreated after realizing the community opinion was swinging against him, I felt pretty confident in at least putting him on trial. I made sure to cast my vote early-ish in order to make sure that I had a vote by the time it ended, in case I wasn't able to show up for the end. That said, if MB doesnt show up then we should absolutely lynch him. You're crazy if you legit think that MB is going to be banned day 1, this is TLOT Mafia. Therefore, risking a dumb-ass town doublekill seems like a risk that, it being day 1, is fucking stupid to take.

I want to vote for Wave but no others do, so I'm sticking with whatever gut I have and going moonbear.

I also think a lot of the criticism towards Asmo is unfounded, I don't think hes totally guilty yet. You're trying to read too deeply into what he says, much like what certain people are trying to do with me.
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12084 Posts
October 12 2014 22:48 GMT
#724
Or maybe just req
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
October 12 2014 22:48 GMT
#725
On October 13 2014 07:47 Lord Tolkien wrote:
I kind of want to lynch ketchup for continuing to instigate the whole "o my god don't listen to them they're vets, MANIPULATION" line of thought.


Go ahead dude. Feel free to do it.
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12084 Posts
October 12 2014 22:49 GMT
#726
Jeff did you just make a VT claim?

Fu.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 12 2014 22:50 GMT
#727
On October 13 2014 07:47 Lord Tolkien wrote:
I kind of want to lynch ketchup for continuing to instigate the whole "o my god don't listen to them they're vets, MANIPULATION" line of thought.

Nah he's pretty town. That would be INSANELY ballsy of him.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
October 12 2014 22:50 GMT
#728
Also Wave is really aggressively the deflection of any and all criticism, that's pretty fucking sketch. But again, nobody is voting him, so I went with my #2 on MB.
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
October 12 2014 22:50 GMT
#729
On October 13 2014 07:44 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2014 07:43 Requizen wrote:
On October 13 2014 07:39 ketchup wrote:
On October 13 2014 07:36 WaveofShadow wrote:
Talk of modkilling stops here. It is extremely unproductive. MB is not going to be modkilled. We are going to talk about which scum we are going to lynch today.

I feel a lot better about my vote on Jeff right now---I didn't really consider his taunting me earlier particularly scummy because that's a tactic I've only ever see more experienced scum use but I feel it's possible. The fact that he's leaving his explanations/defenses until right at the end of the day to force a scramble for majority is pretty anti-town as well. He has also shown he doesn't give any fucks about this game at all so I can think of no good reason to keep him around, even if he is town.
Would you want Jeff in a 3-man LYLO?

Vote accordingly, people.


You aren't a mod, stop trying to dictate how this game goes. Until a mod comes out and tells me this isn't allowed, I will definitely keep posting about it. The mod kill discussion was 100% legit because of this random ass move to jump on the ghandieagle bandwagon started by you, and followed by Tolkien.


On October 13 2014 07:34 MoonBear wrote:
I've been busy zzz. Just because I write like Bill Gross doesn't make me scum. Focus on the people trying to be disruptive instead. Read into what people are doing and not people write on D1 imo since there's so little to read into anyway. You guys are getting so twitchy about each shadow in the forest as if there are ghosts as you drive through and ignoring the wolf howls right outside.

##Vote: GhandiEAGLE


This moonbear jump on ghandieagle bandwagon is hilarious.

##Vote: MoonBear

This is what makes me vote Wave. The manipulation stops here. Even if he's town, I don't want him to dictate the flow of everything. Don't be caught in a situation where he can turn the town against you with his words.

LOL
Are you fucking serious right now?
Do you honestly think I have had any reason at all to attempt to turn the town against ketchup?
I am so incredulous with this. I'd also love to explain to you why you're throwing your vote away and making it easier for scum but RAWRR FIGHT THE POWER I guess so you won't listen I assume.

Doesn't matter about ketchup. You're not playing the Town game, you're playing the "Wave knows better than everyone and you should listen to him" game.

I'd rather "waste" my vote than jump on someone I don't believe in. And your push to get a single vote off of you when you're in no danger of getting lynched is really desperate imo.
It's your boy Guzma!
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12084 Posts
October 12 2014 22:51 GMT
#730
Right now im just getting a "herpaderp im clueless" vibe from jeff. Not sure if scum or bami.

Nyeh.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 12 2014 22:52 GMT
#731
On October 13 2014 07:48 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
Ok I've caught up.

I want to address first the "gives no fucks" part that Wave really wants to label me with. it's bullshit, I didn't expect how seriously Wave was planning on taking the game, so I started with some innocent poking at him, but just because I'm not hounding people as rabidly as he is does not mean that I dont give any fucks about the game. That's ridiculous and represents a lot of the hyperbole Wave has been throwing around.

Secondly, I stopped talking for awhile because it seemed like everything I said was hurting myself (which it probably was). I didn't want to cause more damage, and i legit didn't feel like I had a productive line of reasoning to add for awhile. I haven't been lurking, I just wasn't here at all since I was otherwise occupied. I have literally no agenda in this game from the posts I've made, so every "this sounds scummy" read is just empty ammunition. I think it shows a lot of how little conjecture you can actually make considering most people here haven't played before, and don't have a specific mindset going into the game.

I'm a simple vanilla town minding to my own crops.

Also, since beyond that I haven't said much of real value, I've come to agree with Ketchup that Wave is more or less throwing his weight around in a scummy fashion. I was being serious when I pushed for Wave earlier, but that didn't gain any traction so I wanted to see how people would react if I started voting for Cixah and getting people to move, which like I said earlier clearly backfired.

I later switched to Moonbear not to create reactions but because all of his answers either dodged the question through long text or actually raised more questions for me. Considering he has retreated after realizing the community opinion was swinging against him, I felt pretty confident in at least putting him on trial. I made sure to cast my vote early-ish in order to make sure that I had a vote by the time it ended, in case I wasn't able to show up for the end. That said, if MB doesnt show up then we should absolutely lynch him. You're crazy if you legit think that MB is going to be banned day 1, this is TLOT Mafia. Therefore, risking a dumb-ass town doublekill seems like a risk that, it being day 1, is fucking stupid to take.

I want to vote for Wave but no others do, so I'm sticking with whatever gut I have and going moonbear.

I also think a lot of the criticism towards Asmo is unfounded, I don't think hes totally guilty yet. You're trying to read too deeply into what he says, much like what certain people are trying to do with me.

Eh tu, Jefferino?
Whatever I'm going to let the scrubs scrub it up then.

Interesting that we have a fair amount of pushback onto MB now.
Today is too fucking hard.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12084 Posts
October 12 2014 22:52 GMT
#732
On October 13 2014 07:50 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2014 07:47 Lord Tolkien wrote:
I kind of want to lynch ketchup for continuing to instigate the whole "o my god don't listen to them they're vets, MANIPULATION" line of thought.

Nah he's pretty town. That would be INSANELY ballsy of him.

Oh i know. It just peeves me.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12084 Posts
October 12 2014 22:53 GMT
#733
On October 13 2014 07:52 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2014 07:48 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
Ok I've caught up.

I want to address first the "gives no fucks" part that Wave really wants to label me with. it's bullshit, I didn't expect how seriously Wave was planning on taking the game, so I started with some innocent poking at him, but just because I'm not hounding people as rabidly as he is does not mean that I dont give any fucks about the game. That's ridiculous and represents a lot of the hyperbole Wave has been throwing around.

Secondly, I stopped talking for awhile because it seemed like everything I said was hurting myself (which it probably was). I didn't want to cause more damage, and i legit didn't feel like I had a productive line of reasoning to add for awhile. I haven't been lurking, I just wasn't here at all since I was otherwise occupied. I have literally no agenda in this game from the posts I've made, so every "this sounds scummy" read is just empty ammunition. I think it shows a lot of how little conjecture you can actually make considering most people here haven't played before, and don't have a specific mindset going into the game.

I'm a simple vanilla town minding to my own crops.

Also, since beyond that I haven't said much of real value, I've come to agree with Ketchup that Wave is more or less throwing his weight around in a scummy fashion. I was being serious when I pushed for Wave earlier, but that didn't gain any traction so I wanted to see how people would react if I started voting for Cixah and getting people to move, which like I said earlier clearly backfired.

I later switched to Moonbear not to create reactions but because all of his answers either dodged the question through long text or actually raised more questions for me. Considering he has retreated after realizing the community opinion was swinging against him, I felt pretty confident in at least putting him on trial. I made sure to cast my vote early-ish in order to make sure that I had a vote by the time it ended, in case I wasn't able to show up for the end. That said, if MB doesnt show up then we should absolutely lynch him. You're crazy if you legit think that MB is going to be banned day 1, this is TLOT Mafia. Therefore, risking a dumb-ass town doublekill seems like a risk that, it being day 1, is fucking stupid to take.

I want to vote for Wave but no others do, so I'm sticking with whatever gut I have and going moonbear.

I also think a lot of the criticism towards Asmo is unfounded, I don't think hes totally guilty yet. You're trying to read too deeply into what he says, much like what certain people are trying to do with me.

Eh tu, Jefferino?
Whatever I'm going to let the scrubs scrub it up then.

Interesting that we have a fair amount of pushback onto MB now.
Today is too fucking hard.

Not sure if scum or town pushback.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12084 Posts
October 12 2014 22:53 GMT
#734
*bambi
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
October 12 2014 22:54 GMT
#735
there u go
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 12 2014 22:54 GMT
#736
On October 13 2014 07:50 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2014 07:44 WaveofShadow wrote:
On October 13 2014 07:43 Requizen wrote:
On October 13 2014 07:39 ketchup wrote:
On October 13 2014 07:36 WaveofShadow wrote:
Talk of modkilling stops here. It is extremely unproductive. MB is not going to be modkilled. We are going to talk about which scum we are going to lynch today.

I feel a lot better about my vote on Jeff right now---I didn't really consider his taunting me earlier particularly scummy because that's a tactic I've only ever see more experienced scum use but I feel it's possible. The fact that he's leaving his explanations/defenses until right at the end of the day to force a scramble for majority is pretty anti-town as well. He has also shown he doesn't give any fucks about this game at all so I can think of no good reason to keep him around, even if he is town.
Would you want Jeff in a 3-man LYLO?

Vote accordingly, people.


You aren't a mod, stop trying to dictate how this game goes. Until a mod comes out and tells me this isn't allowed, I will definitely keep posting about it. The mod kill discussion was 100% legit because of this random ass move to jump on the ghandieagle bandwagon started by you, and followed by Tolkien.


On October 13 2014 07:34 MoonBear wrote:
I've been busy zzz. Just because I write like Bill Gross doesn't make me scum. Focus on the people trying to be disruptive instead. Read into what people are doing and not people write on D1 imo since there's so little to read into anyway. You guys are getting so twitchy about each shadow in the forest as if there are ghosts as you drive through and ignoring the wolf howls right outside.

##Vote: GhandiEAGLE


This moonbear jump on ghandieagle bandwagon is hilarious.

##Vote: MoonBear

This is what makes me vote Wave. The manipulation stops here. Even if he's town, I don't want him to dictate the flow of everything. Don't be caught in a situation where he can turn the town against you with his words.

LOL
Are you fucking serious right now?
Do you honestly think I have had any reason at all to attempt to turn the town against ketchup?
I am so incredulous with this. I'd also love to explain to you why you're throwing your vote away and making it easier for scum but RAWRR FIGHT THE POWER I guess so you won't listen I assume.

Doesn't matter about ketchup. You're not playing the Town game, you're playing the "Wave knows better than everyone and you should listen to him" game.

I'd rather "waste" my vote than jump on someone I don't believe in. And your push to get a single vote off of you when you're in no danger of getting lynched is really desperate imo.

This is fair a point, but the constant cries of me controlling and manipulating everyone is starting to get to me. I'm trying to ensure a scum lynch and I get people whining at me that I'm not letting them herp and derp when I'd like to, you know, win the game for town.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
October 12 2014 23:02 GMT
#737
Vote Count

GhandiEAGLE (5): WaveofShadow, ComaDose, WaveofShadow, Lord Tolkien, MoonBear, AsmodeusXI
MoonBear (3): jcarlsoniv, Lord Tolkien, AsmodeusXI, GhandiEAGLE, Alaric, ketchup
Lord Tolkien (2): Requizen, Alzadar, WaveofShadow, mordek
WaveofShadow (1): GhandiEAGLE, Requizen, Requizen
ComaDose (0): ketchup
mordek (0): Lord Tolkien
Cixah (0): mordek, Alzadar, GhandiEAGLE
Alzadar (0): Cixah, AsmodeusXI
jcarlsoniv (0): ketchup
AsmodeusXI (0): WaveofShadow, Alaric, Lord Tolkien
Requizen (0): ketchup

No-lynch (1): onlywonderboy

Not voting (2): Cixah, jcarlsoniv

Currently, GhandiEAGLE is set to be lynched. Day 1 ends in

Remember that voting is mandatory.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
October 12 2014 23:03 GMT
#738
I like Jeff's post more than MB's. I'm gonna follow my convictions on this. If Jeff goes, I won't be terribly sad, but he's earned a shift from my suspicions for.

##Unvote
##Vote: MoonBear


I don't think I'm changing that anymore since it's dinnertime. Let's see what the night brings.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
October 12 2014 23:04 GMT
#739
suspicions for now***

Stupid no editing.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
October 12 2014 23:05 GMT
#740
On October 13 2014 07:45 ketchup wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2014 07:44 MoonBear wrote:
On October 13 2014 07:42 ketchup wrote:
On October 13 2014 07:41 MoonBear wrote:
On October 13 2014 07:39 ketchup wrote:
This moonbear jump on ghandieagle bandwagon is hilarious.

##Vote: MoonBear

Yeah no.


You haven't responded all day today, and you expect me to believe you when you randomly join in to vote ghandieagle AFTER there was already effort put in by tolkien and wave to get jeff lynched? Yea okay dude.

Y'all m'fk'ers act like they forgot about Dre real life and the fact I mentioned Ghandi before anyway


Who cares if you mentioned ghandi before? You haven't given me enough to justify the vote RIGHT NOW. What is making you vote on ghandieagle? The only thing I see is that you jumped on the ghandi bandwagon because it's rolling really strong!


So I'm still waiting for moonbear to come up with his reasons on why he chooses to jump on ghandieagle this late. I hope he didn't post once, and then went away. What disqualified the other two people you spoke about? What happened with tolkien and Alzadar that made you change your mind?
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