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And not lynching is so damned bad. Id rather bet on the chance of hitting scum than a no-lynch.
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On October 13 2014 07:08 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2014 07:04 mordek wrote:On October 13 2014 06:56 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 13 2014 06:50 mordek wrote:
I feel like odds are at least one of the "vets" is on town side. There's a chance that's not the case but not a good one. My thoughts on Wave and Soniv to a certain lesser extent: They start off the game with what feels like a pro-town atmosphere. Since then they've backed off considerably I'd say. But they're back now which I guess was expected with the deadline coming up very soon. Lord Tolkien has still hasn't convinced me he's acting in the town's best interests.
So far I've voted Cixah and then LT. I thought I had somewhat of a meta-read on Cixah and probably had that creating some confirmation bias in my mind reading through his posts. So now that I'm convinced Cixah is town I thought I should look at who else voted Cixah. Obv Alz was also critiquing his posts but also Ghandi seemed to hop on the Cixah wagon. I thought I had a valid reason voting for him but Ghandi, like usual it seems, offered little insight.
I'm sticking with LT for now, that's what my gut says but I also thing Ghandi is at the least not-Town.
Mordek did you read what I wrote about LT? Do you think it makes sense for him to do what he did? I read he was in your top 2, and you had some kind of read on him and voted. LT then voted Asmo with no explanation. I made some comments after being accused of sheeping with your vote and LT has not convinced me anyone else is scummier. No I meant this. Show nested quote +On October 13 2014 05:41 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 13 2014 05:37 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Of course I'm here. I'm just observing right now. You're a big boy, you can live without me posting and validating your opinions. Speaking of which, I think you see me as town more than I see you as town. Don't think I don't notice your constant buddying up and using me as an excuse to make your reads valid to town.
I'm trying to look at the voting patterns. I don't think Swaglord is scum. He comes back with a big list post, but as far as list posts go, there was more than 0 content. Req makes an ok analysis and puts his vote on LT. Alright, cool, I'm glad Req started playing. A few hours later, a bandwagon has started and I'm not entirely sure why.
LT, I'm not really convinced on mordek either. He looks as bandwagony as Jeff (albeit with a bit more post content), just on different vote targets.
MoonBear's "defense" has left me very unsatisfied. No, I expect you to do more. If you think that latest post was a buddying attempt you're sorely mistaken. The bolded is exactly why I don't think he's scum either, but pre-flip association IS a bit dangerous so I can't discount it completely. Essentially my reasoning on LT is the fact that the wagons at the time were him and MB...LT then unvotes MB...as scum there is absolutely ZERO reason to do that if MB is town and you can pull off a mislynch. MB could still be scum but I have other reasons to believe he may not be and I'm not sure I want to force the issue.
Ok, so the flipside being MB and LT are both scum but that's too obvious and he would never do that?
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It says voting is mandatory. He is definitely mod killed if he doesn't vote. I mean there is still a chance for moonbear to participate, but the fact that you guys think letting mafia have two kills on day 1 is a good idea. What a joke. This is why letting it stay on moonbear is definitely a good town move even if you think he is scum or town.
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On October 13 2014 07:26 ketchup wrote:
It says voting is mandatory. He is definitely mod killed if he doesn't vote. I mean there is still a chance for moonbear to participate, but the fact that you guys think letting mafia have two kills on day 1 is a good idea. What a joke. This is why letting it stay on moonbear is definitely a good town move even if you think he is scum or town.
However we don't really gain anything from the voting record this way.
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On October 13 2014 07:26 Lord Tolkien wrote:
And not lynching is so damned bad. Id rather bet on the chance of hitting scum than a no-lynch.
I never said no lynch. I said vote moonbear if he doesn't show up. The more you argue against this, the more I feel you are scummy as shit.
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I vehemently disagree.
Hence why I'd rather take a full RNG vote involving everyone.
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Actually this modkill discussion in general is pretty silly. I don't think MB is going to get modkilled either way.
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On October 13 2014 07:27 mordek wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2014 07:26 ketchup wrote:
It says voting is mandatory. He is definitely mod killed if he doesn't vote. I mean there is still a chance for moonbear to participate, but the fact that you guys think letting mafia have two kills on day 1 is a good idea. What a joke. This is why letting it stay on moonbear is definitely a good town move even if you think he is scum or town. However we don't really gain anything from the voting record this way.
We gain night actions, and information. You really want to give mafia two kills on day 1 if moonbear is a no show? We end up voting on some other rando, and now we have given mafia two kills on DAY 1. What are your percentages that you think you will get a scum vote on day 1?
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On October 13 2014 07:26 mordek wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2014 07:08 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 13 2014 07:04 mordek wrote:On October 13 2014 06:56 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 13 2014 06:50 mordek wrote:
I feel like odds are at least one of the "vets" is on town side. There's a chance that's not the case but not a good one. My thoughts on Wave and Soniv to a certain lesser extent: They start off the game with what feels like a pro-town atmosphere. Since then they've backed off considerably I'd say. But they're back now which I guess was expected with the deadline coming up very soon. Lord Tolkien has still hasn't convinced me he's acting in the town's best interests.
So far I've voted Cixah and then LT. I thought I had somewhat of a meta-read on Cixah and probably had that creating some confirmation bias in my mind reading through his posts. So now that I'm convinced Cixah is town I thought I should look at who else voted Cixah. Obv Alz was also critiquing his posts but also Ghandi seemed to hop on the Cixah wagon. I thought I had a valid reason voting for him but Ghandi, like usual it seems, offered little insight.
I'm sticking with LT for now, that's what my gut says but I also thing Ghandi is at the least not-Town.
Mordek did you read what I wrote about LT? Do you think it makes sense for him to do what he did? I read he was in your top 2, and you had some kind of read on him and voted. LT then voted Asmo with no explanation. I made some comments after being accused of sheeping with your vote and LT has not convinced me anyone else is scummier. No I meant this. On October 13 2014 05:41 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 13 2014 05:37 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Of course I'm here. I'm just observing right now. You're a big boy, you can live without me posting and validating your opinions. Speaking of which, I think you see me as town more than I see you as town. Don't think I don't notice your constant buddying up and using me as an excuse to make your reads valid to town.
I'm trying to look at the voting patterns. I don't think Swaglord is scum. He comes back with a big list post, but as far as list posts go, there was more than 0 content. Req makes an ok analysis and puts his vote on LT. Alright, cool, I'm glad Req started playing. A few hours later, a bandwagon has started and I'm not entirely sure why.
LT, I'm not really convinced on mordek either. He looks as bandwagony as Jeff (albeit with a bit more post content), just on different vote targets.
MoonBear's "defense" has left me very unsatisfied. No, I expect you to do more. If you think that latest post was a buddying attempt you're sorely mistaken. The bolded is exactly why I don't think he's scum either, but pre-flip association IS a bit dangerous so I can't discount it completely. Essentially my reasoning on LT is the fact that the wagons at the time were him and MB...LT then unvotes MB...as scum there is absolutely ZERO reason to do that if MB is town and you can pull off a mislynch. MB could still be scum but I have other reasons to believe he may not be and I'm not sure I want to force the issue. Ok, so the flipside being MB and LT are both scum but that's too obvious and he would never do that?
Yeah, and while possible it's extremely unlikely.
On October 13 2014 07:28 Lord Tolkien wrote:
I vehemently disagree.
Hence why I'd rather take a full RNG vote involving everyone.
That will never happen so stop talking about it.
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On October 13 2014 07:27 ketchup wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2014 07:26 Lord Tolkien wrote:
And not lynching is so damned bad. Id rather bet on the chance of hitting scum than a no-lynch. I never said no lynch. I said vote moonbear if he doesn't show up. The more you argue against this, the more I feel you are scummy as shit.
Idgaf what you think. you think I care that you think im scum?
Off MB if he doesnt show. I am serious.
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This discussion isn't silly, because there is a high chance moonbear will be night killed. We have like 1-2 hours, and he is still a no show. I wanted to bring this up before people manipulated everyone to take the vote off moonbear, and put it on someone else.
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Err sorry, that was incorrect. There is a high chance moonbear will be mod killed*
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United States15536 Posts
This sucks.
I don't want to lynch a townie, but in lieu of a better argument for WHO to lynch (even if that argument is in the form of an RNG function... though I'm not in favor of that on principle) I gotta stick to my guns.
MB's showed no evidence he's town and provided no good reasoning or opinions for anyone else. What he has done is post a bunch of weird, unclear stuff. That smells like scum.
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Can you stop with the manipulation talk?
I can do it too:
LOOK AT KETCHUP GUISE HE SCUM HE TRYING TO MANIPULATE US TO WASTE OUR LYNCH ON MB
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Lynching MB for his low posting (which is still more than he normally posts anywhere else) is a scum move and makes you a bad person imo.
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Anyways. Until either jeff or MB return.
##vote ghandieagle
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Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
I've been busy zzz. Just because I write like Bill Gross doesn't make me scum. Focus on the people trying to be disruptive instead. Read into what people are doing and not people write on D1 imo since there's so little to read into anyway. You guys are getting so twitchy about each shadow in the forest as if there are ghosts as you drive through and ignoring the wolf howls right outside.
##Vote: GhandiEAGLE
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On October 13 2014 07:31 AsmodeusXI wrote:
This sucks.
I don't want to lynch a townie, but in lieu of a better argument for WHO to lynch (even if that argument is in the form of an RNG function... though I'm not in favor of that on principle) I gotta stick to my guns.
MB's showed no evidence he's town and provided no good reasoning or opinions for anyone else. What he has done is post a bunch of weird, unclear stuff. That smells like scum.
I dunno, I think that was just him trying to spark discussion in his own, crazy, british way. Tryhard (though silly) posts != scum
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Talk of modkilling stops here. It is extremely unproductive. MB is not going to be modkilled. We are going to talk about which scum we are going to lynch today.
I feel a lot better about my vote on Jeff right now---I didn't really consider his taunting me earlier particularly scummy because that's a tactic I've only ever see more experienced scum use but I feel it's possible. The fact that he's leaving his explanations/defenses until right at the end of the day to force a scramble for majority is pretty anti-town as well. He has also shown he doesn't give any fucks about this game at all so I can think of no good reason to keep him around, even if he is town.
Would you want Jeff in a 3-man LYLO?
Vote accordingly, people.
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