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On October 15 2014 02:06 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2014 02:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 15 2014 02:02 VisceraEyes wrote: DP could be - I maintain that nothing he's done is outside his gamut as mafia.
But that's a world I'll start considering much later. Look. Think about it yourself. There is 2 prome claims. You are scum. Would you claim another prime? He could do that but it's unlikely. Thus why to look at hopeless in part. Hopeless was first to claim, risking counterclaim and certain defeat if he's mafia. Unless you have some sort of reasoning to think otherwise?
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On October 15 2014 02:09 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2014 02:06 geript wrote:On October 15 2014 02:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 15 2014 02:02 VisceraEyes wrote: DP could be - I maintain that nothing he's done is outside his gamut as mafia.
But that's a world I'll start considering much later. Look. Think about it yourself. There is 2 prome claims. You are scum. Would you claim another prime? He could do that but it's unlikely. Thus why to look at hopeless in part. Hopeless was first to claim, risking counterclaim and certain defeat if he's mafia. Unless you have some sort of reasoning to think otherwise? He just got out of a scum game where he was caught. Looked similar to his play here. It's the right play for scum to claim. It gives mafia extra info about setup. Free town cred from the numpties. Etc.
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On October 15 2014 02:23 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2014 02:09 VisceraEyes wrote:On October 15 2014 02:06 geript wrote:On October 15 2014 02:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 15 2014 02:02 VisceraEyes wrote: DP could be - I maintain that nothing he's done is outside his gamut as mafia.
But that's a world I'll start considering much later. Look. Think about it yourself. There is 2 prome claims. You are scum. Would you claim another prime? He could do that but it's unlikely. Thus why to look at hopeless in part. Hopeless was first to claim, risking counterclaim and certain defeat if he's mafia. Unless you have some sort of reasoning to think otherwise? He just got out of a scum game where he was caught. Looked similar to his play here. It's the right play for scum to claim. It gives mafia extra info about setup. Free town cred from the numpties. Etc. Okay I'ma stop you right here.
It doesn't give mafia extra info about the setup unless someone counterclaims, at which point it becomes the WRONG move for mafia to make because they lose one of their members. There's no "free town cred from the numpties" if someone counterclaims, and in this setup there's like zero chance of townies not counterclaiming at some point (because setup).
There's no situation where mafia's first impulse is to "claim Prime" geript. You're just making things up.
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Like ALL of the setups include at least one prime - so mafia KNOW FOR A FACT that if they claim Prime, SOMEONE ELSE will ALSO claim Prime and fuck up their day.
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Ok VE be bad or be mafia. Your choice.
I'd like to point out that any medic or cop flip proves me right. And either should claim at start of d2.
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On October 15 2014 02:30 geript wrote: Ok VE be bad or be mafia. Your choice.
I'd like to point out that any medic or cop flip proves me right. And either should claim at start of d2. Explain instead of just throwing attacks. Why am I "bad or mafia"? And if I'm so bad, why are you parrotting things I've said already?
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On October 15 2014 02:26 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2014 02:23 geript wrote:On October 15 2014 02:09 VisceraEyes wrote:On October 15 2014 02:06 geript wrote:On October 15 2014 02:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 15 2014 02:02 VisceraEyes wrote: DP could be - I maintain that nothing he's done is outside his gamut as mafia.
But that's a world I'll start considering much later. Look. Think about it yourself. There is 2 prome claims. You are scum. Would you claim another prime? He could do that but it's unlikely. Thus why to look at hopeless in part. Hopeless was first to claim, risking counterclaim and certain defeat if he's mafia. Unless you have some sort of reasoning to think otherwise? He just got out of a scum game where he was caught. Looked similar to his play here. It's the right play for scum to claim. It gives mafia extra info about setup. Free town cred from the numpties. Etc. Okay I'ma stop you right here. It doesn't give mafia extra info about the setup unless someone counterclaims, at which point it becomes the WRONG move for mafia to make because they lose one of their members. There's no "free town cred from the numpties" if someone counterclaims, and in this setup there's like zero chance of townies not counterclaiming at some point (because setup). There's no situation where mafia's first impulse is to "claim Prime" geript. You're just making things up.
Hmmm not really.
Consider that mafia could have 2 square roots. It means it's setup B or C. They know that. They also know that there is only one prime or a maximum of two primes if condition (1) happens. So it's easy to claim prime and be safe with it.
I don't know if I was clear here...
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On October 15 2014 02:28 VisceraEyes wrote: Like ALL of the setups include at least one prime - so mafia KNOW FOR A FACT that if they claim Prime, SOMEONE ELSE will ALSO claim Prime and fuck up their day. Except that only 1, maybe 2 roles can CC them. If no one else claims, they essentially 100% know the setup. If 1 CC, nbd. Just look towny as 2 aren't unlikely at all. Plus it takes having 2 blues come out to force flipping primes which is good for them.
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On October 15 2014 02:28 VisceraEyes wrote: Like ALL of the setups include at least one prime - so mafia KNOW FOR A FACT that if they claim Prime, SOMEONE ELSE will ALSO claim Prime and fuck up their day.
Condition (3) can make a game without primes. Condition (1) can make a game with 2 primes
There is also a base setup with 2 primes and the possibility of having three primes.
I find it very safe to claim prime.
I'm actually getting inclined to believe hopeless fake claimed now.
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Also fwiw. If I were mafia I'd claim a role by now.
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Geript, why is it every time you enter thread you just seemily try to make up things to make someone scummy. But then when you get called out or people reply to you or ask questions you just move onto another target?
And your "If I were mafia i'd claim a role by now" Thats such wifom
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On October 15 2014 02:40 Damdred wrote: Geript, why is it every time you enter thread you just seemily try to make up things to make someone scummy. But then when you get called out or people reply to you or ask questions you just move onto another target?
And your "If I were mafia i'd claim a role by now" Thats such wifom I'm not changing target. I still think you're scum. I just want people to actually consider Hopeless too b/c he's also mafia. Not sure on the third.
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WTF why did we lynch oats?
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Oh. Rayn replaced Barakos.
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You don't get to bitch about anything because you didn't give a shit about the game on D1. Stop that act and start playing if you are town.
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GB, CR and Hopeless are scum.
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Read the thread and post nothing until you have read the thread. If you fail you die.
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Okay, actually gonna read now.
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ya read all 54 pages and get back to us after 4 straight hours of reading,
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