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VisceraEyes
United States21171 Posts
On October 15 2014 02:06 geript wrote: He could do that but it's unlikely. Thus why to look at hopeless in part. Hopeless was first to claim, risking counterclaim and certain defeat if he's mafia. Unless you have some sort of reasoning to think otherwise? | ||
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geript
10024 Posts
On October 15 2014 02:09 VisceraEyes wrote: Hopeless was first to claim, risking counterclaim and certain defeat if he's mafia. Unless you have some sort of reasoning to think otherwise? He just got out of a scum game where he was caught. Looked similar to his play here. It's the right play for scum to claim. It gives mafia extra info about setup. Free town cred from the numpties. Etc. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21171 Posts
On October 15 2014 02:23 geript wrote: He just got out of a scum game where he was caught. Looked similar to his play here. It's the right play for scum to claim. It gives mafia extra info about setup. Free town cred from the numpties. Etc. Okay I'ma stop you right here. It doesn't give mafia extra info about the setup unless someone counterclaims, at which point it becomes the WRONG move for mafia to make because they lose one of their members. There's no "free town cred from the numpties" if someone counterclaims, and in this setup there's like zero chance of townies not counterclaiming at some point (because setup). There's no situation where mafia's first impulse is to "claim Prime" geript. You're just making things up. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21171 Posts
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geript
10024 Posts
I'd like to point out that any medic or cop flip proves me right. And either should claim at start of d2. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21171 Posts
On October 15 2014 02:30 geript wrote: Ok VE be bad or be mafia. Your choice. I'd like to point out that any medic or cop flip proves me right. And either should claim at start of d2. Explain instead of just throwing attacks. Why am I "bad or mafia"? And if I'm so bad, why are you parrotting things I've said already? | ||
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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
On October 15 2014 02:26 VisceraEyes wrote: Okay I'ma stop you right here. It doesn't give mafia extra info about the setup unless someone counterclaims, at which point it becomes the WRONG move for mafia to make because they lose one of their members. There's no "free town cred from the numpties" if someone counterclaims, and in this setup there's like zero chance of townies not counterclaiming at some point (because setup). There's no situation where mafia's first impulse is to "claim Prime" geript. You're just making things up. Hmmm not really. Consider that mafia could have 2 square roots. It means it's setup B or C. They know that. They also know that there is only one prime or a maximum of two primes if condition (1) happens. So it's easy to claim prime and be safe with it. I don't know if I was clear here... | ||
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geript
10024 Posts
On October 15 2014 02:28 VisceraEyes wrote: Like ALL of the setups include at least one prime - so mafia KNOW FOR A FACT that if they claim Prime, SOMEONE ELSE will ALSO claim Prime and fuck up their day. Except that only 1, maybe 2 roles can CC them. If no one else claims, they essentially 100% know the setup. If 1 CC, nbd. Just look towny as 2 aren't unlikely at all. Plus it takes having 2 blues come out to force flipping primes which is good for them. | ||
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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
On October 15 2014 02:28 VisceraEyes wrote: Like ALL of the setups include at least one prime - so mafia KNOW FOR A FACT that if they claim Prime, SOMEONE ELSE will ALSO claim Prime and fuck up their day. Condition (3) can make a game without primes. Condition (1) can make a game with 2 primes There is also a base setup with 2 primes and the possibility of having three primes. I find it very safe to claim prime. I'm actually getting inclined to believe hopeless fake claimed now. | ||
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geript
10024 Posts
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Damdred
15669 Posts
And your "If I were mafia i'd claim a role by now" Thats such wifom | ||
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geript
10024 Posts
On October 15 2014 02:40 Damdred wrote: Geript, why is it every time you enter thread you just seemily try to make up things to make someone scummy. But then when you get called out or people reply to you or ask questions you just move onto another target? And your "If I were mafia i'd claim a role by now" Thats such wifom I'm not changing target. I still think you're scum. I just want people to actually consider Hopeless too b/c he's also mafia. Not sure on the third. | ||
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sqrtofneg1
Canada1159 Posts
WTF happened? | ||
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sqrtofneg1
Canada1159 Posts
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sqrtofneg1
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
Stop that act and start playing if you are town. | ||
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sqrtofneg1
Canada1159 Posts
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
If you fail you die. | ||
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sqrtofneg1
Canada1159 Posts
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kushm4sta
United States8878 Posts
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