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On October 14 2014 11:41 Hopeless1der wrote:
do you understand the concept of probability?
Unless both DP and I are lying, setup D was rolled. You literally have to call us both mafia to think another setup was rolled. If any power role flips (or even claims), you lynch me and DP and rofl all the way to the bank.
So now that we know D was rolled, you're down to 33% chance to have 1, 2, or 3 primes present in the game. Does that still seem unreasonable?
Hmm. Yes.
I mean, there's a highly unlikely possibility of both of you being mafia, but I admit my math was dumb. Very dumb.
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On October 12 2014 06:30 Damdred wrote:
Because until GB does his town tell that he doesn't realize he does he might be scum or not drunk enough yet
Then
On October 14 2014 02:32 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2014 02:28 VisceraEyes wrote:
Damdred why did you spend like 4 posts of real time trying to clarify whether or not GB "dodged" when you don't know what your own read on GB is? If it is to clarify Hopeless' intentions or whatever, what is your read on Hopeless? I think I have my read on GB for right now thank you. I spent those posts talking about the dodge because I was asked about it and to clarify my earlier comments, it took that long because of semantics. Read on hopeless is that he seems to be contributing to the thread and giving his thoughts, hes claiming the named blue role that has no powers and nobody is counter claiming him or claiming with him. Its highly likely that he is town.
Damdred, day one is over and you haven't told us if I had done my town tell. Moreover, you said you had a read on me but didn't share it with us.
1) Why aren't you sharing it with us?
2) If you have a scum read on me, why weren't you pushing me?
3) if you have a town read on me, why weren't you fighting my wagon?
Your filter is mostly focused on me. You've spent most of your game busy with me. But then you follow the wagon that was being built:
On October 14 2014 04:17 Damdred wrote:
Geript, why put in that much work on Oats and not vote him? It seems like the only reason that you are voting me is some twisted meta read that is invalidated in the same game that we were playing and the game I posted.
This feels like you are trying to look towny and trying to find a good mislynch to me. Soft pushing oats to see if it picks up traction while hardpushing me for the easy mislynch today
##Vote Geript
How did you suddenly read geript as mafia here? Is that how you see him now?
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You look bad for it IMO and also VE because he asked that and your answer to him was bad, but he didn't follow up. He decided to go full throttle on geript.
VE is a good player, he would've called you mafia for that. He didn't
Damdred, what do you think of damdred and ritoky?
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EBWOP: I mean, VE and ritoky?
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Sqrt's town game in detention:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/451317-detention-mafia?user=sqrtofneg1&view=all
Nothing alike this game we are playing. He was much more active there and have much more comprehensive reads.
Here is an example of one of his reads in there:
On May 29 2014 07:05 sqrtofneg1 wrote:I propose a new wagon: Fuba. He votes jwz, and then unvotes him the next post with this explanation: Show nested quote +On May 27 2014 15:31 fuba wrote:
But the last game was Classroom, the game that got remade. And since jabber was scum in that game, he knew that Chrom wasn't. Which means that he knew chrom wasn't scum, but suggested that possibility anyway. While I can't give an exact reason for scum|jabber to lie, I don't see any reason for town|jabber to.
...Though now that I think of it, unless the scumteam is the exact three people it was last time, then jabber would be incredibly unlikely to intentionally lie about who was on it, since at least one scum from last game would be town this game and would point out that he's lying. So either this was just a mistake on his part or I'm misunderstanding some part of the interaction. Either way, I'm pretty sure I've talked myself out of this...
##Unvote Soon after, he votes him again. His next significant post, and his last post is this: Show nested quote +On May 29 2014 06:35 fuba wrote:
Every vote wasn't on jabber. It's taken the majority of two days to get the vote to reach this point. There's been significant discussion about it, and there are legitimate reasons to consider him scum.
I'd also like to point out that jabber hasn't been defending himself or offering an alternative wagon for the last 20 hours or so. This tends to be a scum reaction to a large wagon building against them, rather than a town reaction.
If anyone has a specific person they'd like me to comment on, I might have time to squeeze in a filter dive before the deadline. My quick read through the thread didn't leave a whole lot of time for contemplation. I can say that no one struck me as more likely to be scum than jabber. I know a few people asked me specific questions, so I'll try to answer those in the meantime. Just gotta find 'em. Has there been significant discussion about jwz? Also, I disagree that the fact that he hasn't defended himself or offered an alternative wagon indicates that he's scum. I feel that jwz's attitude right now is more like a town who's resigned to being mislynched. This guy hasn't made much contributions. This guy doesn't look like town to me. This guy is scum. ##Vote: fuba
Nothing alike his list post with his unreasoned vote on me.
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By the way, oats must be pretty mad and it sucks that I'm the only one playing now.
Gonna sleep.
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On October 14 2014 13:34 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2014 06:30 Damdred wrote:
Because until GB does his town tell that he doesn't realize he does he might be scum or not drunk enough yet Then Show nested quote +On October 14 2014 02:32 Damdred wrote:On October 14 2014 02:28 VisceraEyes wrote:
Damdred why did you spend like 4 posts of real time trying to clarify whether or not GB "dodged" when you don't know what your own read on GB is? If it is to clarify Hopeless' intentions or whatever, what is your read on Hopeless? I think I have my read on GB for right now thank you. I spent those posts talking about the dodge because I was asked about it and to clarify my earlier comments, it took that long because of semantics. Read on hopeless is that he seems to be contributing to the thread and giving his thoughts, hes claiming the named blue role that has no powers and nobody is counter claiming him or claiming with him. Its highly likely that he is town. Damdred, day one is over and you haven't told us if I had done my town tell. Moreover, you said you had a read on me but didn't share it with us. 1) Why aren't you sharing it with us? 2) If you have a scum read on me, why weren't you pushing me? 3) if you have a town read on me, why weren't you fighting my wagon? Your filter is mostly focused on me. You've spent most of your game busy with me. But then you follow the wagon that was being built: Show nested quote +On October 14 2014 04:17 Damdred wrote:
Geript, why put in that much work on Oats and not vote him? It seems like the only reason that you are voting me is some twisted meta read that is invalidated in the same game that we were playing and the game I posted.
This feels like you are trying to look towny and trying to find a good mislynch to me. Soft pushing oats to see if it picks up traction while hardpushing me for the easy mislynch today
##Vote Geript How did you suddenly read geript as mafia here? Is that how you see him now?
I'm sold on Geript being mafia right now, all his points about me (while it could be said are omgus) they do not line up. Rayn picked a few a part pretty good with my thought pattern, and explained it pretty well. And i'm documented in the thread for reading him scum there, and some reasons for it.
1) I am not sharing my read with you because I wasn't asked and i was in a little bit of a hurry
2) I haven't been pushing you because im pretty sure you aren't scum presently
3) You seemed to do a pretty decent job defending yourself, your filter was big enough where you shouldn't of been the lynch and there was plenty of sentiment to move away from you. So not sure what I was defending you against.
I have been tied up with you in my limited thread time, i should be free more tomorrow
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On October 14 2014 13:38 GlowingBear wrote:
You look bad for it IMO and also VE because he asked that and your answer to him was bad, but he didn't follow up. He decided to go full throttle on geript.
VE is a good player, he would've called you mafia for that. He didn't
Damdred, what do you think of VE and ritoky?
He went full throttle on geript because geript was doing scummy things especially at the time. (Thats my interpretation) You are reading me bad because of my limited exposure in the thread i'll change that.
Ritoky i'm not sure about, hes not really pushing much and is in and out of the thread. I'm not sure of his alignment but I can't say hes town.
I like VE I think that hes pretty townish, he looks pretty close to other town games that i've played with him recently. A bit different than his mafia game, just from a meta standpoint anywa.
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On October 14 2014 13:53 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2014 13:34 GlowingBear wrote:On October 12 2014 06:30 Damdred wrote:
Because until GB does his town tell that he doesn't realize he does he might be scum or not drunk enough yet Then On October 14 2014 02:32 Damdred wrote:On October 14 2014 02:28 VisceraEyes wrote:
Damdred why did you spend like 4 posts of real time trying to clarify whether or not GB "dodged" when you don't know what your own read on GB is? If it is to clarify Hopeless' intentions or whatever, what is your read on Hopeless? I think I have my read on GB for right now thank you. I spent those posts talking about the dodge because I was asked about it and to clarify my earlier comments, it took that long because of semantics. Read on hopeless is that he seems to be contributing to the thread and giving his thoughts, hes claiming the named blue role that has no powers and nobody is counter claiming him or claiming with him. Its highly likely that he is town. Damdred, day one is over and you haven't told us if I had done my town tell. Moreover, you said you had a read on me but didn't share it with us. 1) Why aren't you sharing it with us? 2) If you have a scum read on me, why weren't you pushing me? 3) if you have a town read on me, why weren't you fighting my wagon? Your filter is mostly focused on me. You've spent most of your game busy with me. But then you follow the wagon that was being built: On October 14 2014 04:17 Damdred wrote:
Geript, why put in that much work on Oats and not vote him? It seems like the only reason that you are voting me is some twisted meta read that is invalidated in the same game that we were playing and the game I posted.
This feels like you are trying to look towny and trying to find a good mislynch to me. Soft pushing oats to see if it picks up traction while hardpushing me for the easy mislynch today
##Vote Geript How did you suddenly read geript as mafia here? Is that how you see him now? I'm sold on Geript being mafia right now, all his points about me (while it could be said are omgus) they do not line up. Rayn picked a few a part pretty good with my thought pattern, and explained it pretty well. And i'm documented in the thread for reading him scum there, and some reasons for it. 1) I am not sharing my read with you because I wasn't asked and i was in a little bit of a hurry 2) I haven't been pushing you because im pretty sure you aren't scum presently 3) You seemed to do a pretty decent job defending yourself, your filter was big enough where you shouldn't of been the lynch and there was plenty of sentiment to move away from you. So not sure what I was defending you against. I have been tied up with you in my limited thread time, i should be free more tomorrow
Not going to lie the "I've already done/wrote" that is something I see a bunch from mafia.
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On October 14 2014 14:38 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2014 13:53 Damdred wrote:On October 14 2014 13:34 GlowingBear wrote:On October 12 2014 06:30 Damdred wrote:
Because until GB does his town tell that he doesn't realize he does he might be scum or not drunk enough yet Then On October 14 2014 02:32 Damdred wrote:On October 14 2014 02:28 VisceraEyes wrote:
Damdred why did you spend like 4 posts of real time trying to clarify whether or not GB "dodged" when you don't know what your own read on GB is? If it is to clarify Hopeless' intentions or whatever, what is your read on Hopeless? I think I have my read on GB for right now thank you. I spent those posts talking about the dodge because I was asked about it and to clarify my earlier comments, it took that long because of semantics. Read on hopeless is that he seems to be contributing to the thread and giving his thoughts, hes claiming the named blue role that has no powers and nobody is counter claiming him or claiming with him. Its highly likely that he is town. Damdred, day one is over and you haven't told us if I had done my town tell. Moreover, you said you had a read on me but didn't share it with us. 1) Why aren't you sharing it with us? 2) If you have a scum read on me, why weren't you pushing me? 3) if you have a town read on me, why weren't you fighting my wagon? Your filter is mostly focused on me. You've spent most of your game busy with me. But then you follow the wagon that was being built: On October 14 2014 04:17 Damdred wrote:
Geript, why put in that much work on Oats and not vote him? It seems like the only reason that you are voting me is some twisted meta read that is invalidated in the same game that we were playing and the game I posted.
This feels like you are trying to look towny and trying to find a good mislynch to me. Soft pushing oats to see if it picks up traction while hardpushing me for the easy mislynch today
##Vote Geript How did you suddenly read geript as mafia here? Is that how you see him now? I'm sold on Geript being mafia right now, all his points about me (while it could be said are omgus) they do not line up. Rayn picked a few a part pretty good with my thought pattern, and explained it pretty well. And i'm documented in the thread for reading him scum there, and some reasons for it. 1) I am not sharing my read with you because I wasn't asked and i was in a little bit of a hurry 2) I haven't been pushing you because im pretty sure you aren't scum presently 3) You seemed to do a pretty decent job defending yourself, your filter was big enough where you shouldn't of been the lynch and there was plenty of sentiment to move away from you. So not sure what I was defending you against. I have been tied up with you in my limited thread time, i should be free more tomorrow Not going to lie the "I've already done/wrote" that is something I see a bunch from mafia.
Wow.
That's all you've got from his response?
I've posted a lot of information. What do you make of them?
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On October 14 2014 05:06 VisceraEyes wrote:
I kinda don't want to lynch anyone but geript ever in my life.
On October 14 2014 05:30 VisceraEyes wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote: Oatsmaster
Explain how you were convinced to shift to oats, who you said you have a hard time reading.
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Well, it seems I'm the only one playing the game
Town deserves to lose for its inactivity
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On October 14 2014 20:36 GlowingBear wrote:
Well, it seems I'm the only one playing the game
Town deserves to lose for its inactivity
playing the game would be you doing something, then going away so people can respond. instead you do nothing and sit there in the thread and spam.
u scum?
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On October 14 2014 22:17 kushm4sta wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2014 20:36 GlowingBear wrote:
Well, it seems I'm the only one playing the game
Town deserves to lose for its inactivity playing the game would be you doing something, then going away so people can respond. instead you do nothing and sit there in the thread and spam. u scum?
HAHAHAHA
You mean that skimming through filters, bringing scummy posts to light, diving the database to search for a town play from a scummy player so you can compare gameplay is me doing nothing and just spamming?
I'm sorry, I should've lurked and just voted someone, like you did. That's totally playing the game.
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On October 14 2014 22:24 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2014 22:17 kushm4sta wrote:On October 14 2014 20:36 GlowingBear wrote:
Well, it seems I'm the only one playing the game
Town deserves to lose for its inactivity playing the game would be you doing something, then going away so people can respond. instead you do nothing and sit there in the thread and spam. u scum? HAHAHAHA You mean that skimming through filters, bringing scummy posts to light, diving the database to search for a town play from a scummy player so you can compare gameplay is me doing nothing and just spamming? I'm sorry, I should've lurked and just voted someone, like you did. That's totally playing the game.
what you are doing is actually easy as fuck for scum to do.
hmm u almost got lynched yesterday then you started trying. THAT IS SCUMMY AS FUCK SIR.
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On October 14 2014 22:27 kushm4sta wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2014 22:24 GlowingBear wrote:On October 14 2014 22:17 kushm4sta wrote:On October 14 2014 20:36 GlowingBear wrote:
Well, it seems I'm the only one playing the game
Town deserves to lose for its inactivity playing the game would be you doing something, then going away so people can respond. instead you do nothing and sit there in the thread and spam. u scum? HAHAHAHA You mean that skimming through filters, bringing scummy posts to light, diving the database to search for a town play from a scummy player so you can compare gameplay is me doing nothing and just spamming? I'm sorry, I should've lurked and just voted someone, like you did. That's totally playing the game. what you are doing is actually easy as fuck for scum to do. hmm u almost got lynched yesterday then you started trying. THAT IS SCUMMY AS FUCK SIR.
Why exactly that is scum?
Why would I bother trying to figure out who is mafia at night if I were scum? I could keep myself quiet, as every other player is ridiculously doing.
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scumminess is merely the absence of towniness.
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On October 14 2014 22:33 kushm4sta wrote:
scumminess is merely the absence of towniness.
Kthxbai
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On October 14 2014 22:34 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2014 22:33 kushm4sta wrote:
scumminess is merely the absence of towniness. Kthxbai
if only this wasn't a lie and you would actually go away lol
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