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ritoky (2): geript, DarthPunk
GlowingBear (1): raynpelikoneet
sqrtofneg1 (1): Chairman Ray
Currently ritoky is set to be lynched! This day ends at Monday, Oct 13 9:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00). At that time, the player set to be lynched will be lynched.
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On October 13 2014 00:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2014 00:22 GlowingBear wrote:On October 13 2014 00:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What i think you did is you gave yourself an out before even trying to push a read.
You did the same thing last game with me. You called the motivation behind my posting scum "or something that comes from town" (i don't remember the reasoning).
That is self-preservation before pushing a read and townies do not do that. If you think someone might be blue you shut the fuck up of it and try gathering more information about them in other ways. Not basically say "he is mafia OR THIS OTHER THING I DON'T WANNA TALK ABOUT!!!" Now you're misquoting me. I said he could be trying to look scum. It does not automatically implies he is blue. If you think that was so clear, why people started saying my read was bizarre or forcing me to explain it? If it's clear, why don't you shut up about it? If you think it was that clear, what do you think of people who forced me into talking about it? Because i joined the fucking game after you made your post about you thinking he is blue.... There is no reason to shut up about it any more. Vanilla townies never ever try to look like scum for any reason. rofl, what other explanation there is for your phrase than "blue"?
Why making such entrance, then?
What so you get from his opening?
Tell me town motivation behind doing that kind of post.
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On October 13 2014 00:26 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2014 00:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 13 2014 00:22 GlowingBear wrote:On October 13 2014 00:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What i think you did is you gave yourself an out before even trying to push a read.
You did the same thing last game with me. You called the motivation behind my posting scum "or something that comes from town" (i don't remember the reasoning).
That is self-preservation before pushing a read and townies do not do that. If you think someone might be blue you shut the fuck up of it and try gathering more information about them in other ways. Not basically say "he is mafia OR THIS OTHER THING I DON'T WANNA TALK ABOUT!!!" Now you're misquoting me. I said he could be trying to look scum. It does not automatically implies he is blue. If you think that was so clear, why people started saying my read was bizarre or forcing me to explain it? If it's clear, why don't you shut up about it? If you think it was that clear, what do you think of people who forced me into talking about it? Because i joined the fucking game after you made your post about you thinking he is blue.... There is no reason to shut up about it any more. Vanilla townies never ever try to look like scum for any reason. rofl, what other explanation there is for your phrase than "blue"? You defended yourself and avoided the question.
Because they think you are mafia as you did scummy thing.
That would be my interpretation.
Which is also why i am questioning DP about his read on you.
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oh my gosh, what is this fight that I really cant be bothered to read.
town and town.
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On October 13 2014 00:29 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2014 00:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 13 2014 00:22 GlowingBear wrote:On October 13 2014 00:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What i think you did is you gave yourself an out before even trying to push a read.
You did the same thing last game with me. You called the motivation behind my posting scum "or something that comes from town" (i don't remember the reasoning).
That is self-preservation before pushing a read and townies do not do that. If you think someone might be blue you shut the fuck up of it and try gathering more information about them in other ways. Not basically say "he is mafia OR THIS OTHER THING I DON'T WANNA TALK ABOUT!!!" Now you're misquoting me. I said he could be trying to look scum. It does not automatically implies he is blue. If you think that was so clear, why people started saying my read was bizarre or forcing me to explain it? If it's clear, why don't you shut up about it? If you think it was that clear, what do you think of people who forced me into talking about it? Because i joined the fucking game after you made your post about you thinking he is blue.... There is no reason to shut up about it any more. Vanilla townies never ever try to look like scum for any reason. rofl, what other explanation there is for your phrase than "blue"? Why making such entrance, then? What so you get from his opening? Tell me town motivation behind doing that kind of post.
Town motivation for calling someone mafia at the start of the game?
Well to get the game started... Get people talking about something game relevant.... Get people to take stances.. Put pressure on people who might be mafia...
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On October 13 2014 00:30 Oatsmaster wrote:
oh my gosh, what is this fight that I really cant be bothered to read.
town and town.
It's not a fight.
It's me calling GB scum for something and him saying "i misphrased my post that's why it's scummy".
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On October 13 2014 00:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2014 00:26 GlowingBear wrote:On October 13 2014 00:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 13 2014 00:22 GlowingBear wrote:On October 13 2014 00:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What i think you did is you gave yourself an out before even trying to push a read.
You did the same thing last game with me. You called the motivation behind my posting scum "or something that comes from town" (i don't remember the reasoning).
That is self-preservation before pushing a read and townies do not do that. If you think someone might be blue you shut the fuck up of it and try gathering more information about them in other ways. Not basically say "he is mafia OR THIS OTHER THING I DON'T WANNA TALK ABOUT!!!" Now you're misquoting me. I said he could be trying to look scum. It does not automatically implies he is blue. If you think that was so clear, why people started saying my read was bizarre or forcing me to explain it? If it's clear, why don't you shut up about it? If you think it was that clear, what do you think of people who forced me into talking about it? Because i joined the fucking game after you made your post about you thinking he is blue.... There is no reason to shut up about it any more. Vanilla townies never ever try to look like scum for any reason. rofl, what other explanation there is for your phrase than "blue"? You defended yourself and avoided the question. Because they think you are mafia as you did scummy thing. That would be my interpretation. Which is also why i am questioning DP about his read on you.
They think I'm mafia knowing I have a blue tell and wants me to say who this blue tell is?
Does this make sense to you?
As you said, it was clear I had a blue tell. Why not questioning me solely on geript instead of forcing me into giving my blue read on DP? Why town would waste time with known fact and even help mafia blue hunting?
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GlowingBear you have literally called a guy who has pushed the game most forward mafia.
And another guy who did the same thing "mafia or blue" without thinking the consequenses from the beginning.
Your vote is nowhere, and now you are calling ritoky mafia. I answered your post about ritoky already. I also said i am not going to convince you that you are mafia and wanted to talk about something else. So unless you think i am mafia why have you not commented on my post about your ritoky read?
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On October 13 2014 00:33 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2014 00:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 13 2014 00:26 GlowingBear wrote:On October 13 2014 00:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 13 2014 00:22 GlowingBear wrote:On October 13 2014 00:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What i think you did is you gave yourself an out before even trying to push a read.
You did the same thing last game with me. You called the motivation behind my posting scum "or something that comes from town" (i don't remember the reasoning).
That is self-preservation before pushing a read and townies do not do that. If you think someone might be blue you shut the fuck up of it and try gathering more information about them in other ways. Not basically say "he is mafia OR THIS OTHER THING I DON'T WANNA TALK ABOUT!!!" Now you're misquoting me. I said he could be trying to look scum. It does not automatically implies he is blue. If you think that was so clear, why people started saying my read was bizarre or forcing me to explain it? If it's clear, why don't you shut up about it? If you think it was that clear, what do you think of people who forced me into talking about it? Because i joined the fucking game after you made your post about you thinking he is blue.... There is no reason to shut up about it any more. Vanilla townies never ever try to look like scum for any reason. rofl, what other explanation there is for your phrase than "blue"? You defended yourself and avoided the question. Because they think you are mafia as you did scummy thing. That would be my interpretation. Which is also why i am questioning DP about his read on you. They think I'm mafia knowing I have a blue tell and wants me to say who this blue tell is? Does this make sense to you? As you said, it was clear I had a blue tell. Why not questioning me solely on geript instead of forcing me into giving my blue read on DP? Why town would waste time with known fact and even help mafia blue hunting?
I have no idea what you are trying to achieve with this so explain yourself.
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Also that's not what i said.
Not at all..
I said you gave yourself an out by saying DP is blue if not mafia.
Townies do not think someone is blue if they do a scummy thing "because town can act scummy if they are blue".
That's just bullshit. Townies push a case on scummy people because they want to lynch mafia.
You are not doing that.
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On October 13 2014 00:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2014 00:29 GlowingBear wrote:On October 13 2014 00:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 13 2014 00:22 GlowingBear wrote:On October 13 2014 00:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What i think you did is you gave yourself an out before even trying to push a read.
You did the same thing last game with me. You called the motivation behind my posting scum "or something that comes from town" (i don't remember the reasoning).
That is self-preservation before pushing a read and townies do not do that. If you think someone might be blue you shut the fuck up of it and try gathering more information about them in other ways. Not basically say "he is mafia OR THIS OTHER THING I DON'T WANNA TALK ABOUT!!!" Now you're misquoting me. I said he could be trying to look scum. It does not automatically implies he is blue. If you think that was so clear, why people started saying my read was bizarre or forcing me to explain it? If it's clear, why don't you shut up about it? If you think it was that clear, what do you think of people who forced me into talking about it? Because i joined the fucking game after you made your post about you thinking he is blue.... There is no reason to shut up about it any more. Vanilla townies never ever try to look like scum for any reason. rofl, what other explanation there is for your phrase than "blue"? Why making such entrance, then? What so you get from his opening? Tell me town motivation behind doing that kind of post. Town motivation for calling someone mafia at the start of the game? Well to get the game started... Get people talking about something game relevant.... Get people to take stances.. Put pressure on people who might be mafia...
He didn't call Damdred mafia, he said he didn't care for his alignment.
Are you scumreading me for attacking a post without even knowing its content?
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On October 13 2014 00:25 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2014 00:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well i am not going to convince you about my read on you so let's talk about somethingelse since you are the only one here.
What's your read on CR? Leaning town. I had some suspicions on him but his posts are making sense, which is not something that happens too much when he is mafia. Yours?
Most obviously town after Hopeless.
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On October 13 2014 00:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also that's not what i said.
Not at all..
I said you gave yourself an out by saying DP is blue if not mafia.
Townies do not think someone is blue if they do a scummy thing "because town can act scummy if they are blue".
That's just bullshit. Townies push a case on scummy people because they want to lynch mafia.
You are not doing that.
Rayn, I've explained I have seen a similar play on team melee vets VS newbies.
I also commented your post on ritoky. I said everything was a matter of opinion and that I thought we wouldn't convince each other regarding him.
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On October 13 2014 00:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2014 00:30 Oatsmaster wrote:
oh my gosh, what is this fight that I really cant be bothered to read.
town and town.
It's not a fight. It's me calling GB scum for something and him saying "i misphrased my post that's why it's scummy".
for like 2 fucking pages man.
And you havent decided if hes scum yet?
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On October 13 2014 00:44 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2014 00:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 13 2014 00:29 GlowingBear wrote:On October 13 2014 00:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 13 2014 00:22 GlowingBear wrote:On October 13 2014 00:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What i think you did is you gave yourself an out before even trying to push a read.
You did the same thing last game with me. You called the motivation behind my posting scum "or something that comes from town" (i don't remember the reasoning).
That is self-preservation before pushing a read and townies do not do that. If you think someone might be blue you shut the fuck up of it and try gathering more information about them in other ways. Not basically say "he is mafia OR THIS OTHER THING I DON'T WANNA TALK ABOUT!!!" Now you're misquoting me. I said he could be trying to look scum. It does not automatically implies he is blue. If you think that was so clear, why people started saying my read was bizarre or forcing me to explain it? If it's clear, why don't you shut up about it? If you think it was that clear, what do you think of people who forced me into talking about it? Because i joined the fucking game after you made your post about you thinking he is blue.... There is no reason to shut up about it any more. Vanilla townies never ever try to look like scum for any reason. rofl, what other explanation there is for your phrase than "blue"? Why making such entrance, then? What so you get from his opening? Tell me town motivation behind doing that kind of post. Town motivation for calling someone mafia at the start of the game? Well to get the game started... Get people talking about something game relevant.... Get people to take stances.. Put pressure on people who might be mafia... He didn't call Damdred mafia, he said he didn't care for his alignment. Are you scumreading me for attacking a post without even knowing its content?
He called him useless which would mean he is either mafia or anyways not helping the town.
Which translates into a message to all the people: "Don't be useless because you'll get lynched if you are".
That'sa pro-town behaviour regardless of DarthPunk's alignement. If he had kept his vote on Damdred and just pushed his lynch it would more likely to be mafia behaviour. But he didn't. He is calling all the people who make useless posts out. Is that a mafia trait to you? Like i can understand you initially give DP a scumread for his vote on Damdred. but still? scumreading him for that is ridiculous given what he has done since.
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On October 13 2014 00:47 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2014 00:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 13 2014 00:30 Oatsmaster wrote:
oh my gosh, what is this fight that I really cant be bothered to read.
town and town.
It's not a fight. It's me calling GB scum for something and him saying "i misphrased my post that's why it's scummy". for like 2 fucking pages man. And you havent decided if hes scum yet?
are you even reading?
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On October 13 2014 00:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2014 00:33 GlowingBear wrote:On October 13 2014 00:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 13 2014 00:26 GlowingBear wrote:On October 13 2014 00:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 13 2014 00:22 GlowingBear wrote:On October 13 2014 00:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What i think you did is you gave yourself an out before even trying to push a read.
You did the same thing last game with me. You called the motivation behind my posting scum "or something that comes from town" (i don't remember the reasoning).
That is self-preservation before pushing a read and townies do not do that. If you think someone might be blue you shut the fuck up of it and try gathering more information about them in other ways. Not basically say "he is mafia OR THIS OTHER THING I DON'T WANNA TALK ABOUT!!!" Now you're misquoting me. I said he could be trying to look scum. It does not automatically implies he is blue. If you think that was so clear, why people started saying my read was bizarre or forcing me to explain it? If it's clear, why don't you shut up about it? If you think it was that clear, what do you think of people who forced me into talking about it? Because i joined the fucking game after you made your post about you thinking he is blue.... There is no reason to shut up about it any more. Vanilla townies never ever try to look like scum for any reason. rofl, what other explanation there is for your phrase than "blue"? You defended yourself and avoided the question. Because they think you are mafia as you did scummy thing. That would be my interpretation. Which is also why i am questioning DP about his read on you. They think I'm mafia knowing I have a blue tell and wants me to say who this blue tell is? Does this make sense to you? As you said, it was clear I had a blue tell. Why not questioning me solely on geript instead of forcing me into giving my blue read on DP? Why town would waste time with known fact and even help mafia blue hunting? I have no idea what you are trying to achieve with this so explain yourself.
Ok. Explaining further.
You're a town and you saw my post on DP. "Tried to look scum" sounded like I had a blue tell on DP.
What would a townie do?
1) Force me into saying who I think is blue
2) Inquire me regarding my other scum read
You agree with me it would be (2), or at least never (1), right?
But people forced me into saying that I thought DP was blue.
So:
A) Either you're wrong on saying I was clearly hinting DP was blue
or
B) It was clear and scum tried to force me into saying I think DP is blue.
Therefore, what do you make of people who forced me into giving my blue read on DP?
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On October 13 2014 00:46 GlowingBear wrote:
I also commented your post on ritoky. I said everything was a matter of opinion and that I thought we wouldn't convince each other regarding him.
Okay i must have missed this then.
How are you planning on convincing other people if you do not debunk my counter-case on your case?
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On October 13 2014 00:51 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2014 00:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 13 2014 00:33 GlowingBear wrote:On October 13 2014 00:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 13 2014 00:26 GlowingBear wrote:On October 13 2014 00:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 13 2014 00:22 GlowingBear wrote:On October 13 2014 00:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What i think you did is you gave yourself an out before even trying to push a read.
You did the same thing last game with me. You called the motivation behind my posting scum "or something that comes from town" (i don't remember the reasoning).
That is self-preservation before pushing a read and townies do not do that. If you think someone might be blue you shut the fuck up of it and try gathering more information about them in other ways. Not basically say "he is mafia OR THIS OTHER THING I DON'T WANNA TALK ABOUT!!!" Now you're misquoting me. I said he could be trying to look scum. It does not automatically implies he is blue. If you think that was so clear, why people started saying my read was bizarre or forcing me to explain it? If it's clear, why don't you shut up about it? If you think it was that clear, what do you think of people who forced me into talking about it? Because i joined the fucking game after you made your post about you thinking he is blue.... There is no reason to shut up about it any more. Vanilla townies never ever try to look like scum for any reason. rofl, what other explanation there is for your phrase than "blue"? You defended yourself and avoided the question. Because they think you are mafia as you did scummy thing. That would be my interpretation. Which is also why i am questioning DP about his read on you. They think I'm mafia knowing I have a blue tell and wants me to say who this blue tell is? Does this make sense to you? As you said, it was clear I had a blue tell. Why not questioning me solely on geript instead of forcing me into giving my blue read on DP? Why town would waste time with known fact and even help mafia blue hunting? I have no idea what you are trying to achieve with this so explain yourself. Ok. Explaining further. You're a town and you saw my post on DP. "Tried to look scum" sounded like I had a blue tell on DP. What would a townie do? 1) Force me into saying who I think is blue 2) Inquire me regarding my other scum read You agree with me it would be (2), or at least never (1), right? But people forced me into saying that I thought DP was blue. So: A) Either you're wrong on saying I was clearly hinting DP was blue or B) It was clear and scum tried to force me into saying I think DP is blue. Therefore, what do you make of people who forced me into giving my blue read on DP?
(1) is not relevant. People would force you to say you think DP is blue because they think you already think so and if you give a different reasoning for your scummy post you are 100% mafia.
Why would anyone do (2) instead of (1) as you have already outed your "blue or mafia" read on DP?
Which is why i don't believe you, this is too easy to figure out. It is too easy to figure out in case you are town you should never have said what you did in the first place. It's too easy to figure out (1) is obviously the correct answer.
And i don't believe you are dumb enough to not see that.
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On October 13 2014 00:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2014 00:44 GlowingBear wrote:On October 13 2014 00:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 13 2014 00:29 GlowingBear wrote:On October 13 2014 00:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 13 2014 00:22 GlowingBear wrote:On October 13 2014 00:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What i think you did is you gave yourself an out before even trying to push a read.
You did the same thing last game with me. You called the motivation behind my posting scum "or something that comes from town" (i don't remember the reasoning).
That is self-preservation before pushing a read and townies do not do that. If you think someone might be blue you shut the fuck up of it and try gathering more information about them in other ways. Not basically say "he is mafia OR THIS OTHER THING I DON'T WANNA TALK ABOUT!!!" Now you're misquoting me. I said he could be trying to look scum. It does not automatically implies he is blue. If you think that was so clear, why people started saying my read was bizarre or forcing me to explain it? If it's clear, why don't you shut up about it? If you think it was that clear, what do you think of people who forced me into talking about it? Because i joined the fucking game after you made your post about you thinking he is blue.... There is no reason to shut up about it any more. Vanilla townies never ever try to look like scum for any reason. rofl, what other explanation there is for your phrase than "blue"? Why making such entrance, then? What so you get from his opening? Tell me town motivation behind doing that kind of post. Town motivation for calling someone mafia at the start of the game? Well to get the game started... Get people talking about something game relevant.... Get people to take stances.. Put pressure on people who might be mafia... He didn't call Damdred mafia, he said he didn't care for his alignment. Are you scumreading me for attacking a post without even knowing its content? He called him useless which would mean he is either mafia or anyways not helping the town. Which translates into a message to all the people: "Don't be useless because you'll get lynched if you are". That'sa pro-town behaviour regardless of DarthPunk's alignement. If he had kept his vote on Damdred and just pushed his lynch it would more likely to be mafia behaviour. But he didn't. He is calling all the people who make useless posts out. Is that a mafia trait to you? Like i can understand you initially give DP a scumread for his vote on Damdred. but still? scumreading him for that is ridiculous given what he has done since.
You understand that that was my early impression and that I have new reads right now, right?
I mean, I'm trying to clarify my early play. I don't have strong reads on them.
I actually don't have strong reads on anybody yet. I just find that the most scummy, for now, are sqrt and ritoky.
I'm waiting for more posts from them both, and from Damdred, whom I'm ready to rescind my town pass.
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