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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 06 2014 16:22 GMT
#181
On October 07 2014 00:09 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2014 23:34 batsnacks wrote:
On October 06 2014 23:28 Oatsmaster wrote:
On October 06 2014 23:26 batsnacks wrote:
Oats if you are in fact "contributing" shouldn't you be thanking me? I did enable these "contributions" of yours. I feel like you're annoyed with me for allowing you to contribute.

Or are you annoyed with being in the spotlight this early?

You dont get to claim credit for something that happened accidentally.

What are your reads, mainly holyflare and me?


I agreed with HF a lot last game and he was town. I'm agreeing with him this game already so, tentatively town.

I'm voting you because I think you're scummy.

Also lol at "accidentally"

You claimed on accident now?

The whole argument is not planned by you, therefore it's an accident.

Holy flare, there have been a grand total of 10 pages in this game. Why do you want me to come up with a page long sheet of nonsense? You only have one scumread. And all your reasons are weak as hell and based on your misunderstanding of the situation. The reason why I think that is scummy is because you are stuck in a mindset that is biased. You want to call me scum and are looking for reasons to back that up. Town would do it the other way around.


Your reaction IS scummy, seeing as many other people have mentioned it too I'm pretty sure the majority of people agree. There is no need to be frustrated that someone whose alignment you don't know is doing something you don't agree with and then scum reads you because of a joke. Why would you ever ever ever be frustrated at THAT point? Maybe if he kept pointing it out over and over again you'd be frustrated but he hadn't done anything at that point but instead got people to start discussing things and you are acting salty about how his plan wasn't intended but did good things anyway.

There are plenty of things to talk about as well and they don't require masses of posting to discuss. Such as hopeless' scummy question to bs and how you even come about your read of "grack is probably town" based on literally like 3 pages of gameplay. These don't require essays but you still refuse to even elaborate on the read that YOU gave when it should be easy because it's what YOU think.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 06 2014 16:26 GMT
#182
my scum read on you is easy to explain

I didn't see your thing as a joke > scum read you for claiming and then berating bs for saying we should claim

(this was subsequently quashed by you, so scum read gone)

I see you react ridiculously to batsnacks because he got people talking and didn't realise you joked whereas you responded normally and not in mass caps to me, you also are frustrated that a player did something that wouldn't find scum (....lol) but then have done nothing to find scum, town read grack based on nothing and then wouldn't explain it when asked.

(scum read +++)
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 06 2014 16:31 GMT
#185
How can you be in this direction of thinking and be frustrated I don't get it.

"batsnacks plan is awful because it doesn't find scum!!! WHAT THE FUCK MAN WHY DO YOU THINK THATS GOOD"
"batsnacks is so fucking lucky his plan worked and found town"
"mafia aren't going to join in a mass claim so early!"
"man fuck batsnacks for finding townies, you so lucky batsnacks"
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 06 2014 16:33 GMT
#188
On October 07 2014 01:31 Alakaslam wrote:
Holyflare, Storrzerg, batsnacks team calling it nao

Gimme dat baller shot caller épée-

Wait this is not OMGUS.net


i know 1/3 of this is wrong and i actually think it could just flat out be all wrong
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 06 2014 16:33 GMT
#189
On October 07 2014 01:32 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2014 01:31 Holyflare wrote:
How can you be in this direction of thinking and be frustrated I don't get it.

"batsnacks plan is awful because it doesn't find scum!!! WHAT THE FUCK MAN WHY DO YOU THINK THATS GOOD"
"batsnacks is so fucking lucky his plan worked and found town"
"mafia aren't going to join in a mass claim so early!"
"man fuck batsnacks for finding townies, you so lucky batsnacks"

I think paraphrasing is an awesome tool for scum.

That actually is not quite what oats has been saying sson


then please go ahead and prove otherwise
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 06 2014 16:37 GMT
#192
On October 06 2014 23:05 Oatsmaster wrote:
its blatently fucking obvious to anyone with a brain that mass claiming day 1 in a normal setup is bad.
Yet bat seems to think that scum dont know that.
It irritates me.


On October 06 2014 23:07 Oatsmaster wrote:
Ok. To make it extremely clear.

I am not yelling at bat because I think that mass claiming is a bad idea.

Im yelling at bat because he thinks that he can catch mafia by suggesting a mass claim and looking at the replies.


On October 06 2014 23:11 Oatsmaster wrote:
Batsnacks test is bound to bring up false positives cause scum aint gonna claim first or second or third or fourth. So if scum arnt talking, his test is useless and a waste of time.


On October 06 2014 23:20 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2014 23:17 Grackaroni wrote:
On October 06 2014 23:11 Oatsmaster wrote:
Batsnacks test is bound to bring up false positives cause scum aint gonna claim first or second or third or fourth. So if scum arnt talking, his test is useless and a waste of time.

if scum actually aren't going to claim first/second/third/fourth this strategy would be amazing for town hunting.

So you arent town then?

As scum, if someone suggests a fakeclaim, do you go anywhere near it until most of the thread agrees its a good idea?


On October 06 2014 23:27 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2014 23:24 Grackaroni wrote:
On October 06 2014 23:20 Oatsmaster wrote:
On October 06 2014 23:17 Grackaroni wrote:
On October 06 2014 23:11 Oatsmaster wrote:
Batsnacks test is bound to bring up false positives cause scum aint gonna claim first or second or third or fourth. So if scum arnt talking, his test is useless and a waste of time.

if scum actually aren't going to claim first/second/third/fourth this strategy would be amazing for town hunting.

So you arent town then?

As scum, if someone suggests a fakeclaim, do you go anywhere near it until most of the thread agrees its a good idea?

lol actually no. I would probably wait to see if something like this ends up happening.

I'm just saying because you're so insistent that what Batsnacks did was shit for finding mafia and then you argued that the first people to join the claim would be town. Which should actually make Batsnack's plan helpful as now you're town reading people for claiming.

Bat didnt know this though.
Which still makes his plan shitty. But lucky.




If he's lucky and scum wouldn't do any of this why is bat not a town read at all? Just lucky, had a shitty plan, not doing anything at all, harping on same points?

On October 06 2014 23:20 Oatsmaster wrote:
No right?
Yes, im confirmed town.
Grack is up in the air.
But probably town.
HF latching onto this point is really weird and scummy.

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 06 2014 16:38 GMT
#193
On October 07 2014 01:36 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2014 01:33 Holyflare wrote:
On October 07 2014 01:32 Alakaslam wrote:
On October 07 2014 01:31 Holyflare wrote:
How can you be in this direction of thinking and be frustrated I don't get it.

"batsnacks plan is awful because it doesn't find scum!!! WHAT THE FUCK MAN WHY DO YOU THINK THATS GOOD"
"batsnacks is so fucking lucky his plan worked and found town"
"mafia aren't going to join in a mass claim so early!"
"man fuck batsnacks for finding townies, you so lucky batsnacks"

I think paraphrasing is an awesome tool for scum.

That actually is not quite what oats has been saying sson


then please go ahead and prove otherwise

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/468053-fantasy-football-ffl-mini?user=Oatsmaster

There is all the proof you should require that you are not quoting oats and are therefore attributing further angst to his posts than he actually had (which was plenty)

American politics

hey look quotes now, maybe you should reread the filter before you have baseless denunciations of people!
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 06 2014 16:42 GMT
#199
On October 07 2014 01:40 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2014 00:38 Oatsmaster wrote:
On October 07 2014 00:16 batsnacks wrote:
Game didn't start on page 1

Bat traps too strong

I was guessing. Sue me.

Slam, bats is lucky because although his plan didn't produce his desired result or any result he would've expected, it produced something that isn't useless. So he unintentionally helped us. Which makes him lucky.
It isn't a very big point, I don't know why you guys keep harping about it

this is townreading bats.


or tmi? how can you just take it as face value town reading bats when he hasn't said bats was town at all previously?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 06 2014 16:44 GMT
#202
On October 07 2014 01:43 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2014 01:38 Holyflare wrote:
On October 07 2014 01:36 Alakaslam wrote:
On October 07 2014 01:33 Holyflare wrote:
On October 07 2014 01:32 Alakaslam wrote:
On October 07 2014 01:31 Holyflare wrote:
How can you be in this direction of thinking and be frustrated I don't get it.

"batsnacks plan is awful because it doesn't find scum!!! WHAT THE FUCK MAN WHY DO YOU THINK THATS GOOD"
"batsnacks is so fucking lucky his plan worked and found town"
"mafia aren't going to join in a mass claim so early!"
"man fuck batsnacks for finding townies, you so lucky batsnacks"

I think paraphrasing is an awesome tool for scum.

That actually is not quite what oats has been saying sson


then please go ahead and prove otherwise

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/468053-fantasy-football-ffl-mini?user=Oatsmaster

There is all the proof you should require that you are not quoting oats and are therefore attributing further angst to his posts than he actually had (which was plenty)

American politics

hey look quotes now, maybe you should reread the filter before you have baseless denunciations of people!

It wasn't baseless; you were paraphrasing more emotion into his statements.

And I read the whole thing live. I remember and that is why I called you out for paraphrasing.

Use quotes EVERY TIME YOU CAN.

Paraphrase again and I vote you


i can paraphrase anything i want because that's exactly how it happened, he got frustrated about bats wasting time with a bad plan but if he REALLY thought what he thinks, that batsnacks got lucky and found townies then he didn't waste any time at all and so all his frustration isn't even real because what batsnacks did WAS helpful
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 06 2014 19:35 GMT
#268
On October 07 2014 02:15 ObviousOne wrote:
Okay good, now that's out of the way.

#1 oats is prob town he's too frustrated and sticking around despite it. By corollary I like HF and batsnacks based on that discussion.


#2 don't know what to make of Grack, he was present and participating in a conversation but I don't really see anything alignment indicative after almost a full page of filter

#3 interested in the reply from storr re: liancourt


Explain the bolded because several others have developed the opposite opinion.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 06 2014 20:41 GMT
#283
I didn't ask that at all
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 06 2014 20:41 GMT
#284
On October 07 2014 05:04 KelsierSC wrote:
HF what do you make of this RNG play from BH?

Do you think OO is a good lynch?


null

possibly
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 06 2014 20:49 GMT
#286
On October 07 2014 05:33 ObviousOne wrote:
Lol holy shit self voting is literally against the rules I should have read at some point. Someone asked bout my oats read and it was cuz he stuck to defending his claim as a joke an participated in tomfoolery ironically


Also what? That's completely different to what everyone else has said as well. Why does sticking to his reasoning being a joke make him scummy, what if he was towny and made it as a joke what else would he do?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 06 2014 21:53 GMT
#294
who is hela?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 06 2014 22:03 GMT
#304
If BH was town and decided he was going to RNG like he does in every game as every alignment and was only available at that point in time should he have withheld his usual entry to continue posting nothing?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 06 2014 22:11 GMT
#313
On October 06 2014 22:57 Damdred wrote:
Oats is being super weird this game and it makes my skin crawl, last time we played he got really defensive about claiming and fought against it pretty hard. That doesn't make me look good on Oats right now.

Bat you and me are friends this game!

On October 06 2014 23:37 Damdred wrote:
When I first read the interchange I was pretty sure that it was a joke, but oats reactions throughout the rest of the thread is just weird. Oats why are you so defensive? I've never seen you play like this after getting called scum, you usually do not react at all just go on about your day, so whats up


On October 07 2014 02:35 Damdred wrote:
Thats just how BH is, RNG IS LIFE!?!

Reading over Oats again, his frustration seems real. A few things do not line up but i'm not so sure its alignment indicative i've never been good at reading oats granted.

So are you scum reading BH Kel?

Slam. I know you just put hf as a null correct? Do you make anything of hf putting all this pressure on oats? Would it be more town or scum motivated to do everything he did?


this is a pretty weird chain of events by the way, incredibly simplified and surface level!

First of all you scum read him because when he played scum he did the exact same thing and then suddenly when the topic is pushed aside your read flips and his frustration is real (despite making your skin crawl originally) so much so that you overlook all the inconsistencies.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 06 2014 22:15 GMT
#316
yes and everything else damdy has done is asking random questions :/
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 06 2014 22:21 GMT
#320
On October 07 2014 07:19 Damdred wrote:
Of course HF thats what I like to do early, I ask questions guage how people react to them and answer them and put them into my reads later. I don't bust stuff out super fast I have to build up to it unless I know someone well sadly.

And besides you still never answered my question why you never voted for oats even after pushing him so hard.


because he left and i have no new info, originally i didn't know there was a voting thread and then when i found out i acted like it was just a pressure vote in thread
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 06 2014 22:38 GMT
#323
don't really know nor care at the moment because oats has been talked to death and hasn't posted since we last talked about him so this line of questioning is quite frankly irrelevant and if you want to use it to somehow magically discover my alignment then you are wasting your time on it, i'm town and you'll find that out when i eventually get night killed.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 06 2014 22:54 GMT
#325
because I AM town so any attempt at looking at my filter to learn that is futile and if you are the least bit concerned your concerns will be quashed with me being killed. Thus your time is much better spent looking at other people and sheeping my scum reads
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