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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
October 06 2014 17:19 GMT
#221
On October 07 2014 02:17 liancourt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2014 02:13 StorrZerg wrote:
On October 07 2014 01:27 liancourt wrote:
On October 07 2014 01:07 StorrZerg wrote:
On October 06 2014 13:56 liancourt wrote:
it must be because i like vanilla ice cream

plain as can be


Hmm claims in first post


On October 07 2014 00:51 liancourt wrote:
I dont think we can scum read oats based on him agreeing to the mass claim when in the first place it was bats who suggested it. Although his reactions afterwards seems a little over reactive . But I do believe that he was joking when he claimed town. I mean theres no other option but to claim vt. You cant scrutinize him for that.

Also I find it strange everyone agrees on the fact that it was a trap set by bats. Its the perfect excuse for scum to say something was a trap and point fingers at random people.



i don't see why we couldn't read oats for the interaction.

I think you can look into it, the he is reacting is very in the opposite direction of his "joke" so much so that its odd he even did the joke in the first place if he really truly feels like that.

I disagree that bats looks scummy for something like this. Comes from a town mindset in my eyes, to be catching scum.

I think you have actually moved up to my #1 scum


Town mindset? Please explain how its a town mindset that bats has. And why am I scum?


I find the act of seeking to trap someone town mindset, specially within the start of the game. It generates something to talk about which is good.

You. Claimed with your first post in a "cute way" i don't like that. The way you are interacting with the oats/bats situation is weird, sets off my scumdar


That I am not bandwagoning on oats train?

What oats train btw, he has 1 vote?
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
October 06 2014 17:20 GMT
#222
I am a one man train.
liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
October 06 2014 17:22 GMT
#223
On October 06 2014 13:01 Alakaslam wrote:
See I swear I am vt


Other ppl claimed as well

I took it as a joke like all the first page posts. I took every post as fluff until the oats bats interaction.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
October 06 2014 17:23 GMT
#224
@BH if I claim scum is RNG lynch still better than lynching me?
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
October 06 2014 17:26 GMT
#225
So I have never played with bh but i really don't like what he just did.

firstly i thought we were looking along some interesting lines with hf and hell, then bh did this huge RNG nothingness that served nothing except to disrupt town.

he then tries to justify his rng like hey this is actually a good idea because he is inactive?

it introduces him to the thread in a splashy way but all it does.is disrupt town.

Zerg for Life
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
October 06 2014 17:29 GMT
#226
On October 07 2014 02:20 batsnacks wrote:
I am a one man train.

[image loading]
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
October 06 2014 17:31 GMT
#227
[B]On October 07 2014 02:16 OTE]On October 07 2014 02:16 Alakaslam wrote:
Hello Bamcis chef of the east side of the west.

You said I was skummi earlier with no reasons

I wants your reezinz


you claimed #lynchwithfire

how ever i don't like the smurff more since his claim was his first post + in a cute way[/QUOTE]

So ala did the same and just because I did it in a cute way you think I am scummy? A bit far fetched dont cha think?
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 06 2014 17:33 GMT
#228
On October 07 2014 02:26 KelsierSC wrote:
So I have never played with bh but i really don't like what he just did.

firstly i thought we were looking along some interesting lines with hf and hell, then bh did this huge RNG nothingness that served nothing except to disrupt town.

he then tries to justify his rng like hey this is actually a good idea because he is inactive?

it introduces him to the thread in a splashy way but all it does.is disrupt town.


That's like a BH patented thread entrance. tbh I dont know that I've ever seen it followed, but its a true random and its what he does.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
October 06 2014 17:35 GMT
#229
On October 07 2014 02:26 KelsierSC wrote:
So I have never played with bh but i really don't like what he just did.

firstly i thought we were looking along some interesting lines with hf and hell, then bh did this huge RNG nothingness that served nothing except to disrupt town.

he then tries to justify his rng like hey this is actually a good idea because he is inactive?

it introduces him to the thread in a splashy way but all it does.is disrupt town.



Are you denying the underlying math of RNG? Look dude there's roughly speaking 13 players, right? If 3 are scum, then that gives us a solid 22% chance of lynching scum purely based on RNG. Now, this isn't a very good ratio, I understand. Often, town can beat it for D1 lynches. But unless you put together a better case, the fact of the matter is, I'm offering a straight-up 22% chance to lynch someone.

On top of that, once I've RNGed someone, I tunnel them until they are lynched. This is pretty much historically accurate. OO has accepted his fate, which makes me think he is scum (town is usually super outraged when they get RNGed). I've updated the odds of OO flipping scum to be much higher as a result.

That being said, I am willing to change vote if you guys can offer something better, but things like "someone was yelling in all caps" or whatever other baloney is going on doesn't even come close to matching up with RNG in terms of usefulness as a heuristic.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
October 06 2014 17:35 GMT
#230
Thats just how BH is, RNG IS LIFE!?!

Reading over Oats again, his frustration seems real. A few things do not line up but i'm not so sure its alignment indicative i've never been good at reading oats granted.

So are you scum reading BH Kel?

Slam. I know you just put hf as a null correct? Do you make anything of hf putting all this pressure on oats? Would it be more town or scum motivated to do everything he did?
liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
October 06 2014 17:36 GMT
#231
On October 07 2014 02:19 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2014 02:17 liancourt wrote:
On October 07 2014 02:13 StorrZerg wrote:
On October 07 2014 01:27 liancourt wrote:
On October 07 2014 01:07 StorrZerg wrote:
On October 06 2014 13:56 liancourt wrote:
it must be because i like vanilla ice cream

plain as can be


Hmm claims in first post


On October 07 2014 00:51 liancourt wrote:
I dont think we can scum read oats based on him agreeing to the mass claim when in the first place it was bats who suggested it. Although his reactions afterwards seems a little over reactive . But I do believe that he was joking when he claimed town. I mean theres no other option but to claim vt. You cant scrutinize him for that.

Also I find it strange everyone agrees on the fact that it was a trap set by bats. Its the perfect excuse for scum to say something was a trap and point fingers at random people.



i don't see why we couldn't read oats for the interaction.

I think you can look into it, the he is reacting is very in the opposite direction of his "joke" so much so that its odd he even did the joke in the first place if he really truly feels like that.

I disagree that bats looks scummy for something like this. Comes from a town mindset in my eyes, to be catching scum.

I think you have actually moved up to my #1 scum


Town mindset? Please explain how its a town mindset that bats has. And why am I scum?


I find the act of seeking to trap someone town mindset, specially within the start of the game. It generates something to talk about which is good.

You. Claimed with your first post in a "cute way" i don't like that. The way you are interacting with the oats/bats situation is weird, sets off my scumdar


That I am not bandwagoning on oats train?

What oats train btw, he has 1 vote?


All the comments earlier were anti oats and then the RNG lynch came
liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
October 06 2014 17:41 GMT
#232
On October 07 2014 02:26 KelsierSC wrote:
So I have never played with bh but i really don't like what he just did.

firstly i thought we were looking along some interesting lines with hf and hell, then bh did this huge RNG nothingness that served nothing except to disrupt town.

he then tries to justify his rng like hey this is actually a good idea because he is inactive?

it introduces him to the thread in a splashy way but all it does.is disrupt town.



I agree. And whats more I think bh is serious about it.

Oh wait dont tell me its another trap!
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
October 06 2014 17:42 GMT
#233
BH is always serious about RNG lynch
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
October 06 2014 17:42 GMT
#234
The only "trap" here to fall into is the trap of not voting for OO
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
October 06 2014 17:43 GMT
#235
On October 07 2014 02:26 KelsierSC wrote:
So I have never played with bh + Show Spoiler +
but i really don't like what he just did.

firstly i thought we were looking along some interesting lines with hf and hell, then bh did this huge RNG nothingness that served nothing except to disrupt town.

he then tries to justify his rng like hey this is actually a good idea because he is inactive?

it introduces him to the thread in a splashy way but all it does.is disrupt town.



This is key
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
October 06 2014 17:45 GMT
#236
On October 07 2014 02:33 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2014 02:26 KelsierSC wrote:
So I have never played with bh but i really don't like what he just did.

firstly i thought we were looking along some interesting lines with hf and hell, then bh did this huge RNG nothingness that served nothing except to disrupt town.

he then tries to justify his rng like hey this is actually a good idea because he is inactive?

it introduces him to the thread in a splashy way but all it does.is disrupt town.


That's like a BH patented thread entrance. tbh I dont know that I've ever seen it followed, but its a true random and its what he does.

Well I always follow it as ##homage
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
October 06 2014 17:46 GMT
#237
Thanks for that @ObviousOne

I need to talk to hopeless more soon
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
October 06 2014 17:50 GMT
#238
If that is how he always enters i am.not scum reading him, i just think it is a stupid thing to do.

like i think we were being productive and pushing certain people and he pops up saying there is x% this person is mafia. Ok but why not let people figure out the game and pressure people.

plus i dont like how he does an rng and then goes looking for a reason to call that person scum on page 12 of the thread
call it rng and don't make it anything more
Zerg for Life
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
October 06 2014 17:51 GMT
#239
On October 07 2014 02:46 batsnacks & Alakaslam wrote:
Thanks for that @ObviousOne

We need to talk to hopeless more sson

If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 06 2014 17:52 GMT
#240
sry randomly posting between meetings/work. I'll be on tonight dont worry. ps bats and oats are probably both town. kthxbai
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