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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 06 2014 16:22 GMT
#181
On October 07 2014 00:09 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2014 23:34 batsnacks wrote:
On October 06 2014 23:28 Oatsmaster wrote:
On October 06 2014 23:26 batsnacks wrote:
Oats if you are in fact "contributing" shouldn't you be thanking me? I did enable these "contributions" of yours. I feel like you're annoyed with me for allowing you to contribute.

Or are you annoyed with being in the spotlight this early?

You dont get to claim credit for something that happened accidentally.

What are your reads, mainly holyflare and me?


I agreed with HF a lot last game and he was town. I'm agreeing with him this game already so, tentatively town.

I'm voting you because I think you're scummy.

Also lol at "accidentally"

You claimed on accident now?

The whole argument is not planned by you, therefore it's an accident.

Holy flare, there have been a grand total of 10 pages in this game. Why do you want me to come up with a page long sheet of nonsense? You only have one scumread. And all your reasons are weak as hell and based on your misunderstanding of the situation. The reason why I think that is scummy is because you are stuck in a mindset that is biased. You want to call me scum and are looking for reasons to back that up. Town would do it the other way around.


Your reaction IS scummy, seeing as many other people have mentioned it too I'm pretty sure the majority of people agree. There is no need to be frustrated that someone whose alignment you don't know is doing something you don't agree with and then scum reads you because of a joke. Why would you ever ever ever be frustrated at THAT point? Maybe if he kept pointing it out over and over again you'd be frustrated but he hadn't done anything at that point but instead got people to start discussing things and you are acting salty about how his plan wasn't intended but did good things anyway.

There are plenty of things to talk about as well and they don't require masses of posting to discuss. Such as hopeless' scummy question to bs and how you even come about your read of "grack is probably town" based on literally like 3 pages of gameplay. These don't require essays but you still refuse to even elaborate on the read that YOU gave when it should be easy because it's what YOU think.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 06 2014 16:26 GMT
#182
my scum read on you is easy to explain

I didn't see your thing as a joke > scum read you for claiming and then berating bs for saying we should claim

(this was subsequently quashed by you, so scum read gone)

I see you react ridiculously to batsnacks because he got people talking and didn't realise you joked whereas you responded normally and not in mass caps to me, you also are frustrated that a player did something that wouldn't find scum (....lol) but then have done nothing to find scum, town read grack based on nothing and then wouldn't explain it when asked.

(scum read +++)
liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
October 06 2014 16:27 GMT
#183
On October 07 2014 01:07 StorrZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2014 13:56 liancourt wrote:
it must be because i like vanilla ice cream

plain as can be


Hmm claims in first post


Show nested quote +
On October 07 2014 00:51 liancourt wrote:
I dont think we can scum read oats based on him agreeing to the mass claim when in the first place it was bats who suggested it. Although his reactions afterwards seems a little over reactive . But I do believe that he was joking when he claimed town. I mean theres no other option but to claim vt. You cant scrutinize him for that.

Also I find it strange everyone agrees on the fact that it was a trap set by bats. Its the perfect excuse for scum to say something was a trap and point fingers at random people.



i don't see why we couldn't read oats for the interaction.

I think you can look into it, the he is reacting is very in the opposite direction of his "joke" so much so that its odd he even did the joke in the first place if he really truly feels like that.

I disagree that bats looks scummy for something like this. Comes from a town mindset in my eyes, to be catching scum.

I think you have actually moved up to my #1 scum


Town mindset? Please explain how its a town mindset that bats has. And why am I scum?
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
October 06 2014 16:31 GMT
#184
Holyflare, Storrzerg, batsnacks team calling it nao

Gimme dat baller shot caller épée-

Wait this is not OMGUS.net
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 06 2014 16:31 GMT
#185
How can you be in this direction of thinking and be frustrated I don't get it.

"batsnacks plan is awful because it doesn't find scum!!! WHAT THE FUCK MAN WHY DO YOU THINK THATS GOOD"
"batsnacks is so fucking lucky his plan worked and found town"
"mafia aren't going to join in a mass claim so early!"
"man fuck batsnacks for finding townies, you so lucky batsnacks"
liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
October 06 2014 16:32 GMT
#186
On October 07 2014 01:19 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2014 01:13 liancourt wrote:
On October 07 2014 00:58 batsnacks wrote:
Ebwop also how am I pointing fingers at random people? I'm only pointing fingers at people who claimed. I didn't make them claim. Also, I'm not scum reading anyone for claiming. Grack claimed and I don't scum read him. I am scum reading people for scummy reactions.


Although oats' reaction is slightly over the top which does make me wary and I do agree his reactions compared to gracks is somewhat more lets say lively I dont get the feeling he is scummy. Seems natural for town to react that way when someone questions your joke claim.


It seems natural to start screaming when someone questions your joke claim?

Does it also seem natural to claim and then immediately after say that claiming is "NEVER FUCKING BENEFICIAL [sic]"


Like I said joke claims. If he were serious itd be a different matter
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
October 06 2014 16:32 GMT
#187
On October 07 2014 01:31 Holyflare wrote:
How can you be in this direction of thinking and be frustrated I don't get it.

"batsnacks plan is awful because it doesn't find scum!!! WHAT THE FUCK MAN WHY DO YOU THINK THATS GOOD"
"batsnacks is so fucking lucky his plan worked and found town"
"mafia aren't going to join in a mass claim so early!"
"man fuck batsnacks for finding townies, you so lucky batsnacks"

I think paraphrasing is an awesome tool for scum.

That actually is not quite what oats has been saying sson
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 06 2014 16:33 GMT
#188
On October 07 2014 01:31 Alakaslam wrote:
Holyflare, Storrzerg, batsnacks team calling it nao

Gimme dat baller shot caller épée-

Wait this is not OMGUS.net


i know 1/3 of this is wrong and i actually think it could just flat out be all wrong
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 06 2014 16:33 GMT
#189
On October 07 2014 01:32 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2014 01:31 Holyflare wrote:
How can you be in this direction of thinking and be frustrated I don't get it.

"batsnacks plan is awful because it doesn't find scum!!! WHAT THE FUCK MAN WHY DO YOU THINK THATS GOOD"
"batsnacks is so fucking lucky his plan worked and found town"
"mafia aren't going to join in a mass claim so early!"
"man fuck batsnacks for finding townies, you so lucky batsnacks"

I think paraphrasing is an awesome tool for scum.

That actually is not quite what oats has been saying sson


then please go ahead and prove otherwise
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
October 06 2014 16:36 GMT
#190
On October 07 2014 01:33 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2014 01:32 Alakaslam wrote:
On October 07 2014 01:31 Holyflare wrote:
How can you be in this direction of thinking and be frustrated I don't get it.

"batsnacks plan is awful because it doesn't find scum!!! WHAT THE FUCK MAN WHY DO YOU THINK THATS GOOD"
"batsnacks is so fucking lucky his plan worked and found town"
"mafia aren't going to join in a mass claim so early!"
"man fuck batsnacks for finding townies, you so lucky batsnacks"

I think paraphrasing is an awesome tool for scum.

That actually is not quite what oats has been saying sson


then please go ahead and prove otherwise

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/468053-fantasy-football-ffl-mini?user=Oatsmaster

There is all the proof you should require that you are not quoting oats and are therefore attributing further angst to his posts than he actually had (which was plenty)

American politics
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
October 06 2014 16:36 GMT
#191
What word were you actually looking for?

I am Al Gore btw

Who are you?
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 06 2014 16:37 GMT
#192
On October 06 2014 23:05 Oatsmaster wrote:
its blatently fucking obvious to anyone with a brain that mass claiming day 1 in a normal setup is bad.
Yet bat seems to think that scum dont know that.
It irritates me.


On October 06 2014 23:07 Oatsmaster wrote:
Ok. To make it extremely clear.

I am not yelling at bat because I think that mass claiming is a bad idea.

Im yelling at bat because he thinks that he can catch mafia by suggesting a mass claim and looking at the replies.


On October 06 2014 23:11 Oatsmaster wrote:
Batsnacks test is bound to bring up false positives cause scum aint gonna claim first or second or third or fourth. So if scum arnt talking, his test is useless and a waste of time.


On October 06 2014 23:20 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2014 23:17 Grackaroni wrote:
On October 06 2014 23:11 Oatsmaster wrote:
Batsnacks test is bound to bring up false positives cause scum aint gonna claim first or second or third or fourth. So if scum arnt talking, his test is useless and a waste of time.

if scum actually aren't going to claim first/second/third/fourth this strategy would be amazing for town hunting.

So you arent town then?

As scum, if someone suggests a fakeclaim, do you go anywhere near it until most of the thread agrees its a good idea?


On October 06 2014 23:27 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2014 23:24 Grackaroni wrote:
On October 06 2014 23:20 Oatsmaster wrote:
On October 06 2014 23:17 Grackaroni wrote:
On October 06 2014 23:11 Oatsmaster wrote:
Batsnacks test is bound to bring up false positives cause scum aint gonna claim first or second or third or fourth. So if scum arnt talking, his test is useless and a waste of time.

if scum actually aren't going to claim first/second/third/fourth this strategy would be amazing for town hunting.

So you arent town then?

As scum, if someone suggests a fakeclaim, do you go anywhere near it until most of the thread agrees its a good idea?

lol actually no. I would probably wait to see if something like this ends up happening.

I'm just saying because you're so insistent that what Batsnacks did was shit for finding mafia and then you argued that the first people to join the claim would be town. Which should actually make Batsnack's plan helpful as now you're town reading people for claiming.

Bat didnt know this though.
Which still makes his plan shitty. But lucky.




If he's lucky and scum wouldn't do any of this why is bat not a town read at all? Just lucky, had a shitty plan, not doing anything at all, harping on same points?

On October 06 2014 23:20 Oatsmaster wrote:
No right?
Yes, im confirmed town.
Grack is up in the air.
But probably town.
HF latching onto this point is really weird and scummy.

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 06 2014 16:38 GMT
#193
On October 07 2014 01:36 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2014 01:33 Holyflare wrote:
On October 07 2014 01:32 Alakaslam wrote:
On October 07 2014 01:31 Holyflare wrote:
How can you be in this direction of thinking and be frustrated I don't get it.

"batsnacks plan is awful because it doesn't find scum!!! WHAT THE FUCK MAN WHY DO YOU THINK THATS GOOD"
"batsnacks is so fucking lucky his plan worked and found town"
"mafia aren't going to join in a mass claim so early!"
"man fuck batsnacks for finding townies, you so lucky batsnacks"

I think paraphrasing is an awesome tool for scum.

That actually is not quite what oats has been saying sson


then please go ahead and prove otherwise

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/468053-fantasy-football-ffl-mini?user=Oatsmaster

There is all the proof you should require that you are not quoting oats and are therefore attributing further angst to his posts than he actually had (which was plenty)

American politics

hey look quotes now, maybe you should reread the filter before you have baseless denunciations of people!
liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
October 06 2014 16:38 GMT
#194
On October 07 2014 01:31 Alakaslam wrote:
Holyflare, Storrzerg, batsnacks team calling it nao

Gimme dat baller shot caller épée-

Wait this is not OMGUS.net


Id take out hf because I agree with his points on hopeless.
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
October 06 2014 16:39 GMT
#195
On October 07 2014 01:17 Holyflare wrote:
lol storr reads me as weird but then says exactly the same thing that I have already said about oats' reaction ~_~

kelsier reads me as scummy for "flinging shit like slam said" but doesn't really explain how exactly I have been flinging shit and neither does he explain anything to do with oats such as why he'd be frustrated in the first place and then then further brings up the EXACT point I had already raised on hopeless.

In essence kelsier's post is a list post with the added scummy bonus of giving out free and easy town reads based on things that shouldn't be free and easy town reads


i didn't really go into it because ala gave the reasons and i was more explaing ala as town.

i didn't see you bring up the point about hopeless to be honest but if you did raise that before me then i agree with the read, maybe your town
Zerg for Life
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
October 06 2014 16:40 GMT
#196
On October 07 2014 00:38 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2014 00:16 batsnacks wrote:
Game didn't start on page 1

Bat traps too strong

I was guessing. Sue me.

Slam, bats is lucky because although his plan didn't produce his desired result or any result he would've expected, it produced something that isn't useless. So he unintentionally helped us. Which makes him lucky.
It isn't a very big point, I don't know why you guys keep harping about it

this is townreading bats.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
October 06 2014 16:40 GMT
#197
It seems clear to me that it's time for an RNG lynch.

So here's what happens

1) you all will follow me since I'm the best player here

2) I will lynch the guy via RNG as determined by this post (the one you're reading right now)'s post count modulo 9. Since so many people are posting at once on TL it's impossible for us to know what's going down. Basically, in addition to a "what post in this thread" post ID, each post has a unique sitewide id # that's increasing so quickly because of TL traffic, I can use it to RNG effectively.

I've done this before. It works. If you don't know what "modulo" means or how my rng lynch works after this explantion, you are not mathematically and educationally qualified to claim that this lynch is not RNG.

For RNG, this post will be used for generating a random lynch. The # in the upper left corner can be right-clicked and used to access the absolute TL post # for this post. That number mod 9 is the random lynch. 1 =Oats, 2 = rayn, etc, all the way up to 8 = holyflare and 0 = sloosh.

The reason we use the absolute TL post number is that posts are constantly being made, so the number is truly random. We turn it into a number 1-14 by taking that number mod 14. What is mod? effectively, it's the remainder after division. For example. 13 mod 14 = 13. 14 mod 14 = 0. 18 mod 14 = 4. 19 mod 14 = 5. and so on.

Basically, this generates a random number 1 through 14. I am in favor of the random lynch (though am somewhat interested in a policy lynch today as well-- TL does not do this enough. I will start off by voting for the random lynched based on THIS POST.


In this case,
1 = hopeless1
2 = Damdred

etc etc all the way up to

13 = obiwanshinobi
0 = storrzerg

(since a multiple of 14 modulo 14 is 0, not 14).

+ Show Spoiler [player list] +

1. Hopeless1der
2. Damdred
3. Palmer
4. Oatsmaster
5. Alakaslam
6. Grackaroni
7. liancourt
8. KelsierSC
9. batsnacks
10. Holyflare
11. BlazingHand
12. ObviousOne
13. ObiWanShinobi
0. StorrZerg


there is no force on earth that can persuade me that RNG lynch is sub-optimal. bow before the RNG lynch. behold its glory and its horror and all of its majesty
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
October 06 2014 16:41 GMT
#198
The Post count for my RNG declaration post was 23071592

23071592 mod 14 = 12

12th player is ObviousOne

##vote ObviousOne

OO, your lynch has been determined by RNG. SUBMIT YOURSELF UNTO DEATH.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 06 2014 16:42 GMT
#199
On October 07 2014 01:40 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2014 00:38 Oatsmaster wrote:
On October 07 2014 00:16 batsnacks wrote:
Game didn't start on page 1

Bat traps too strong

I was guessing. Sue me.

Slam, bats is lucky because although his plan didn't produce his desired result or any result he would've expected, it produced something that isn't useless. So he unintentionally helped us. Which makes him lucky.
It isn't a very big point, I don't know why you guys keep harping about it

this is townreading bats.


or tmi? how can you just take it as face value town reading bats when he hasn't said bats was town at all previously?
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
October 06 2014 16:43 GMT
#200
On October 07 2014 01:38 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2014 01:36 Alakaslam wrote:
On October 07 2014 01:33 Holyflare wrote:
On October 07 2014 01:32 Alakaslam wrote:
On October 07 2014 01:31 Holyflare wrote:
How can you be in this direction of thinking and be frustrated I don't get it.

"batsnacks plan is awful because it doesn't find scum!!! WHAT THE FUCK MAN WHY DO YOU THINK THATS GOOD"
"batsnacks is so fucking lucky his plan worked and found town"
"mafia aren't going to join in a mass claim so early!"
"man fuck batsnacks for finding townies, you so lucky batsnacks"

I think paraphrasing is an awesome tool for scum.

That actually is not quite what oats has been saying sson


then please go ahead and prove otherwise

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/468053-fantasy-football-ffl-mini?user=Oatsmaster

There is all the proof you should require that you are not quoting oats and are therefore attributing further angst to his posts than he actually had (which was plenty)

American politics

hey look quotes now, maybe you should reread the filter before you have baseless denunciations of people!

It wasn't baseless; you were paraphrasing more emotion into his statements.

And I read the whole thing live. I remember and that is why I called you out for paraphrasing.

Use quotes EVERY TIME YOU CAN.

Paraphrase again and I vote you
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