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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
September 30 2014 02:21 GMT
#1961
So you gauge reactions by threatening to lynch people?
Retired.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 30 2014 02:21 GMT
#1962
Yes well sky at this point in time is a giant question mark that's leaning on the side of super scummy but there are 2 other partners if he is mafia and 3 mafia if he's town so there's a way better chance at focusing discussion on not skydragon than this continual cycle of is he or isn't he mafia.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
September 30 2014 02:23 GMT
#1963
On September 30 2014 11:21 Holyflare wrote:
Yes well sky at this point in time is a giant question mark that's leaning on the side of super scummy but there are 2 other partners if he is mafia and 3 mafia if he's town so there's a way better chance at focusing discussion on not skydragon than this continual cycle of is he or isn't he mafia.


Fair enough.
Retired.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 30 2014 02:24 GMT
#1964
Haru hasn't been on any wagons on any lynch and while making a bit of sense day 1, completely devolved day 3 and is doing nothing today (even posted wrong info about killing)
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 30 2014 02:25 GMT
#1965
Day 2*
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
September 30 2014 03:08 GMT
#1966
On September 30 2014 11:24 Holyflare wrote:
Haru hasn't been on any wagons on any lynch and while making a bit of sense day 1, completely devolved day 3 and is doing nothing today (even posted wrong info about killing)


I'm not interested to tell you why, and i am asked not to /replace, so here i am again.
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13921 Posts
September 30 2014 04:34 GMT
#1967
so play the game?
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
September 30 2014 06:00 GMT
#1968
On September 30 2014 06:59 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2014 02:07 Holyflare wrote:
On September 29 2014 22:24 Holyflare wrote:
So sky/Superbia/jat/haru/fecal



The only thing I can now say, knowing that storr had the most bull shit reasons for being on palmar ever is that obi is probably town for the way he was reacting at deadline and the way he was calling out posts. Honestly, I think fecal was pretty towny in reacting as well and he actually stuck to sky better than I actually did, I also like some of his reactions in regards to the hopeless lynch and some other things he's said throughout the game.

So changing my previous list it's now

sky/storr/superbia/jat/haru

^^ i'll start writing stuff on the above soon, I just really need to take a shit



Also when is this gonna happen?

ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
September 30 2014 07:01 GMT
#1969
On September 30 2014 08:38 Holyflare wrote:
Superbia, batsnacks told sky to vote palmar to save himself.

So what? That happened when there was max 1 vote on Palmar. I fail to see how it is alignment indicative for Sky to not do it. It very much looked like Palmar would not ever get lynched that day at that moment.
On September 30 2014 08:42 SkyDragon wrote:
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On September 30 2014 08:20 Superbia wrote:
Posted 3 1/2 hours before EoD2:
On September 29 2014 06:32 SkyDragon wrote:
Being lynched will actually be a relief, to be honest. I'm actually going to bed now because I have no faith in the Town so don't care which way it goes.

If I've learned anything from this game, it's that I know exactly whose readings to ignore in the future (Provided they end the game as confirmed Town). If they're Mafia, I'll be commending them for the stress they put me through.


Posted at the beginning of d3:
On September 29 2014 22:40 SkyDragon wrote:
HF, seriously - Stfu. Most of you don't have any clue what the hell you're doing, so just stfu. Especially those morons that lynched Palmar since he was the most Town out of all of us. Hell, I refused to change my vote to him to save myself so that says everything. Either Mafia is driving vote trains to take out those who are active and analysing stuff correctly or Town should all be lynched because nothing is working as it is.

When I get home, I'm going to analyse some things.


Keep in mind that the Palmar train didn't take off until 1 hour before EoD2. You want to explain this, sky?


Sure, mate. It's called "Try and read everything between those two posts next time instead of selectively quoting comments and trying to get people to explain them".

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On September 29 2014 05:41 batsnacks wrote:
SkyDragon if you vote Palmar I'll unvote you. If you want to get lynched, just keep complaining and doing nothing.

##unvote
##vote: SkyDragon


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On September 29 2014 05:44 SkyDragon wrote:
On September 29 2014 05:33 batsnacks wrote:
SkyDragon ffs vote someone you are making yourself a really easy mislynch if you're town.


Last time I voted, everyone went crazy and called me scummy over it so you'll have to forgive me if I'm a little more cautious this time. Also, it gives me a chance to read everyone's posts first before voting according to my gut instinct.

Which I have done. Voted for JAT.


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On September 29 2014 05:44 batsnacks wrote:
I don't want to lynch JAT. We need to compromise. Vote Palmar.


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On September 29 2014 05:47 SkyDragon wrote:
I don't care if anyone votes to lynch me and I won't be influenced in such a way. I've said what I needed to say earlier and Palmar is lower on my list of suspects. Still shady but lower. I'm sticking by my original list of 4 that I posted before. I could be wrong but they are the ones who look scummy to me.


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On September 29 2014 05:49 batsnacks wrote:
On September 29 2014 05:49 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 29 2014 05:47 batsnacks wrote:
On September 29 2014 05:45 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 29 2014 05:37 Palmar wrote:
On September 29 2014 05:35 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 29 2014 05:34 Palmar wrote:
On September 29 2014 05:30 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 29 2014 05:28 Palmar wrote:
[quote]
That's not even an argument. Everything, literally everything, in mafia is wifom. The goal of the game is to recognize which glass is more likely to be poisoned.

No shit. But you not being on the Sky wagon does not prove your alignment in any possible case.

What about this then. If I'm mafia and you're town, where's the benefit in me tanking my towncred with you by doing exactly what I'm doing?

herp derp

I have no idea.

The simple explanation, if you're town, is that I'm town too, not sure what I'm doing but pretty sure this is a bad lynch, throwing a random one out there.

See? And that's the problem. You are throwing a RANDOM out there. That's ridiculous at this point in the game.


Give him some space at least he voted. If me and skydragon vote Palmar will you? 3 is enough to lynch.

Why would I vote with my biggest scumread?!


Because I am forcing him to vote who I want. He doesn't have a say in who he votes if he wants to live.


As you can see, Bats was trying to get me to vote Palmar to save myself (I had 6 lynch votes or something at the time). I said no.

How come noone is calling this out?
Superbia is correctly stating what happened -> Sky gave up and afked through the lynch when it looked like he was the lynch and Sky answers urging people to read what happened BETWEEN the 2 posts. But what does he show us? Posts that all happened BEFORE it. Why did noone even notice this?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
September 30 2014 07:05 GMT
#1970
On September 30 2014 08:35 SkyDragon wrote:
JAT is the person that I would first like to look at and the person that right now I believe most likely to be mafia. He has a few mafia traits in a good many of his posts, he discredits people very early on:

Show nested quote +
On September 25 2014 17:24 justanothertownie wrote:
I don't like SkyDragon. Constantly claiming he is new BUT has played before. And then he posts things like this:
On September 25 2014 08:24 SkyDragon wrote:
I know I'm new around here but what's up with the vote train on Holyflare? If that isn't considered suspicious as fuck, I don't know what is. Would it not be easier to just let the Seer do his/her job instead of lynching random villag.. I mean, er, "Vanillagers"?

I don't know how people play on the site you are from but this post is the epitome of awful. Since you claim to actually have experience with this kind of setup please enlighten me how the seer of all people is supposed to do his job day fucking 1. How can he lead us to a scumlynch better than anyone else if all he has at this point is a green check? How is he supposed to do that without claiming anyways? Like what?
On September 25 2014 09:42 SkyDragon wrote:
On September 25 2014 09:32 Holyflare wrote:
On September 25 2014 09:27 SkyDragon wrote:
Actually, all three of them claimed to be Town from the off, and HF decided to throw some names out as well (When barely anyone had posted and probably to deflect suspicion from himself). Just thinking out loud.


Riddle me this good sir. What suspicion did I need to deflect and how would I go about doing that with 3 names of people that hadn't even spoken yet?


In my experience, bad guys have stated names right at the very start to divert peoples attention elsewhere. I'm not saying that you're bad, I'm just saying that I'm cautious of anyone who throws names around during the early part of the game.

What should we do instead of throwing names around? Just chill and do nothing?

So again - this guy has played this game already. But he is pretending to know nothing at all about it. What gives?


Instead of finding out exactly what was meant by the above comments and trying to work with someone from the very start instead he attacks the position the person is coming from and effectively negates any impact that person can have. This is a sign of mafia because he's not trying to understand but to discredit the person involved in the conversation.

Show nested quote +
On September 25 2014 17:50 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 25 2014 17:45 GlowingBear wrote:
On September 25 2014 17:29 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 25 2014 08:54 GlowingBear wrote:
On September 25 2014 08:51 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On September 25 2014 08:49 GlowingBear wrote:
On September 25 2014 08:46 Hopeless1der wrote:
HF confirmed literate. Sadly that's not enough for me to lynch Haru


Hi! I have a feeling that there is a mafia between you and holyflare.

Why not both?


Why do you think this?


I find their buddying style unnatural.
Gonna do some quotations to illustrate what I said, brb

Since when is buddying early day1 a thing mafia teammates do?
On September 25 2014 10:20 Holyflare wrote:
LOL you think I'd go to that much effort to search through a quote to lynchy team mate????

Yes.


Since when that is strictly not possible for mafia?

Did I say that? But you are threating it like a scumtell and it for sure isn't.

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On September 25 2014 17:50 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 25 2014 17:48 GlowingBear wrote:
My dribk senses says JAT is possibly mafia

But hey, feel free to elaborate on that.

More discrediting and not trying to understand just attacking for no reason.
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2014 17:59 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 25 2014 17:56 Holyflare wrote:
I dunno i think gb's a bit townier since his onslaught of cases even if they are misplaced.

Maybe. Maybe not.

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On September 26 2014 03:11 justanothertownie wrote:
I still dislike Sky and I think that should be pretty obvious. It's way too early for an opinion on Palmar.

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On September 26 2014 05:21 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 26 2014 05:04 SkyDragon wrote:
I'm not going to argue about this any further.
Let's move on..

Sounds good. You could provide some reads instead.

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On September 26 2014 15:34 justanothertownie wrote:
Sky at least puts in a good amount of effort now but if you read his posts there are so many contradictions/things that don't make sense. Still don't like him.

Show nested quote +
On September 26 2014 15:36 justanothertownie wrote:
GB seems afraid/really defensive - might be scum. Reminds me of the scum qt from Fanfic where he was really really afraid I would vig him.
I will elaborate on those reads when I have time in a few hours. Would probably still lynch Sky.

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On September 26 2014 20:19 justanothertownie wrote:
Ok, I also don't get townvibes from Hopeless filter. I guess if GB is town Hopeless looks quite shady but I really have doubts about that.

This is mostly from his second and first pages of filter. He tells people to give reads, but never gives any reads himself besides "this person might be scum" or that he doesn't like me because of apparent contradictions that he does not even point out at the time. He says that he pushed me d1, but look at the filter he soft pushed at best. This seems to me like a way mafia would try to push a mislynch so that a townie would take it up and run with it. The way he talks about everyone else he interacts with is mostly painting them in a scummy light.

Also I found the mafia database and compared some of JATs games, and I did find him to be pointed in his questions and his driving discussion if you look at him in some of his more recent games like Fanfiction and The Guilty Mafia, he really drove discussion and pushed people he thought were scummy. In the fanfic, he really thought Damdred was scummy after a small slip and he did not let up on him he hard pushed him and the thread to vote for him or tried to always bring it up. He is not doing this here. At best, he is just offhandedly soft pushing lynches right now, "oh I do not like this guy" "oh you might be scummy".

Now if you compare it to heavy weight championship, you see the same sort of play, JAT is mafia. And if you look at his later filter, it is more of the same and mirrors heavy weight very well and with my other conclusions.

Bullshit. First Sky complains about how I am attacking people all the time, later he complains how I am not pushing people. It makes no fucking sense.
Also Storr brought up a very good point earlier - this post looks a lot like he has been coached by his teammates. Early in the game he seemed totally clueless about everything and now he acts like he not only knows how to use the database but also my meta. Sure, buddy - if people like marv could not identify my scumplay in heavyweight you can surely see the difference to my townplay.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
September 30 2014 07:07 GMT
#1971
On September 30 2014 08:12 Holyflare wrote:
What kind of towny argues with the person that palmar was so towny omg why did you vote him fuck you hf when the alternative was himself? The answer is that no towny does that.

Then we have this which is very true and this ridiculous thing Sky said about how mods tried to keep him from posting his offsite games.
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
September 30 2014 07:11 GMT
#1972
So, in summary, lynch skydragon?

I can get behind that.. again.
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
September 30 2014 09:57 GMT
#1973
On September 30 2014 16:11 Fecalfeast wrote:
So, in summary, lynch skydragon?

Exactly.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 30 2014 11:08 GMT
#1974
On September 30 2014 12:08 HaruRH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2014 11:24 Holyflare wrote:
Haru hasn't been on any wagons on any lynch and while making a bit of sense day 1, completely devolved day 3 and is doing nothing today (even posted wrong info about killing)


I'm not interested to tell you why, and i am asked not to /replace, so here i am again.


Wth is this btw??
SkyDragon
Profile Joined September 2014
United Kingdom142 Posts
September 30 2014 12:00 GMT
#1975
On September 30 2014 16:05 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2014 08:35 SkyDragon wrote:
JAT is the person that I would first like to look at and the person that right now I believe most likely to be mafia. He has a few mafia traits in a good many of his posts, he discredits people very early on:

On September 25 2014 17:24 justanothertownie wrote:
I don't like SkyDragon. Constantly claiming he is new BUT has played before. And then he posts things like this:
On September 25 2014 08:24 SkyDragon wrote:
I know I'm new around here but what's up with the vote train on Holyflare? If that isn't considered suspicious as fuck, I don't know what is. Would it not be easier to just let the Seer do his/her job instead of lynching random villag.. I mean, er, "Vanillagers"?

I don't know how people play on the site you are from but this post is the epitome of awful. Since you claim to actually have experience with this kind of setup please enlighten me how the seer of all people is supposed to do his job day fucking 1. How can he lead us to a scumlynch better than anyone else if all he has at this point is a green check? How is he supposed to do that without claiming anyways? Like what?
On September 25 2014 09:42 SkyDragon wrote:
On September 25 2014 09:32 Holyflare wrote:
On September 25 2014 09:27 SkyDragon wrote:
Actually, all three of them claimed to be Town from the off, and HF decided to throw some names out as well (When barely anyone had posted and probably to deflect suspicion from himself). Just thinking out loud.


Riddle me this good sir. What suspicion did I need to deflect and how would I go about doing that with 3 names of people that hadn't even spoken yet?


In my experience, bad guys have stated names right at the very start to divert peoples attention elsewhere. I'm not saying that you're bad, I'm just saying that I'm cautious of anyone who throws names around during the early part of the game.

What should we do instead of throwing names around? Just chill and do nothing?

So again - this guy has played this game already. But he is pretending to know nothing at all about it. What gives?


Instead of finding out exactly what was meant by the above comments and trying to work with someone from the very start instead he attacks the position the person is coming from and effectively negates any impact that person can have. This is a sign of mafia because he's not trying to understand but to discredit the person involved in the conversation.

On September 25 2014 17:50 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 25 2014 17:45 GlowingBear wrote:
On September 25 2014 17:29 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 25 2014 08:54 GlowingBear wrote:
On September 25 2014 08:51 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On September 25 2014 08:49 GlowingBear wrote:
On September 25 2014 08:46 Hopeless1der wrote:
HF confirmed literate. Sadly that's not enough for me to lynch Haru


Hi! I have a feeling that there is a mafia between you and holyflare.

Why not both?


Why do you think this?


I find their buddying style unnatural.
Gonna do some quotations to illustrate what I said, brb

Since when is buddying early day1 a thing mafia teammates do?
On September 25 2014 10:20 Holyflare wrote:
LOL you think I'd go to that much effort to search through a quote to lynchy team mate????

Yes.


Since when that is strictly not possible for mafia?

Did I say that? But you are threating it like a scumtell and it for sure isn't.

On September 25 2014 17:50 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 25 2014 17:48 GlowingBear wrote:
My dribk senses says JAT is possibly mafia

But hey, feel free to elaborate on that.

More discrediting and not trying to understand just attacking for no reason.
On September 25 2014 17:59 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 25 2014 17:56 Holyflare wrote:
I dunno i think gb's a bit townier since his onslaught of cases even if they are misplaced.

Maybe. Maybe not.

On September 26 2014 03:11 justanothertownie wrote:
I still dislike Sky and I think that should be pretty obvious. It's way too early for an opinion on Palmar.

On September 26 2014 05:21 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 26 2014 05:04 SkyDragon wrote:
I'm not going to argue about this any further.
Let's move on..

Sounds good. You could provide some reads instead.

On September 26 2014 15:34 justanothertownie wrote:
Sky at least puts in a good amount of effort now but if you read his posts there are so many contradictions/things that don't make sense. Still don't like him.

On September 26 2014 15:36 justanothertownie wrote:
GB seems afraid/really defensive - might be scum. Reminds me of the scum qt from Fanfic where he was really really afraid I would vig him.
I will elaborate on those reads when I have time in a few hours. Would probably still lynch Sky.

On September 26 2014 20:19 justanothertownie wrote:
Ok, I also don't get townvibes from Hopeless filter. I guess if GB is town Hopeless looks quite shady but I really have doubts about that.

This is mostly from his second and first pages of filter. He tells people to give reads, but never gives any reads himself besides "this person might be scum" or that he doesn't like me because of apparent contradictions that he does not even point out at the time. He says that he pushed me d1, but look at the filter he soft pushed at best. This seems to me like a way mafia would try to push a mislynch so that a townie would take it up and run with it. The way he talks about everyone else he interacts with is mostly painting them in a scummy light.

Also I found the mafia database and compared some of JATs games, and I did find him to be pointed in his questions and his driving discussion if you look at him in some of his more recent games like Fanfiction and The Guilty Mafia, he really drove discussion and pushed people he thought were scummy. In the fanfic, he really thought Damdred was scummy after a small slip and he did not let up on him he hard pushed him and the thread to vote for him or tried to always bring it up. He is not doing this here. At best, he is just offhandedly soft pushing lynches right now, "oh I do not like this guy" "oh you might be scummy".

Now if you compare it to heavy weight championship, you see the same sort of play, JAT is mafia. And if you look at his later filter, it is more of the same and mirrors heavy weight very well and with my other conclusions.

Bullshit. First Sky complains about how I am attacking people all the time, later he complains how I am not pushing people. It makes no fucking sense.
Also Storr brought up a very good point earlier - this post looks a lot like he has been coached by his teammates. Early in the game he seemed totally clueless about everything and now he acts like he not only knows how to use the database but also my meta. Sure, buddy - if people like marv could not identify my scumplay in heavyweight you can surely see the difference to my townplay.


And again, you side-track the issue with more whining and complaining. I've said this for a while now that I'd be surprised if you're not Mafia along with Storr (His complete attitude reversal when he was called out yesterday is just so damn scummy to me).
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
September 30 2014 12:10 GMT
#1976
On September 30 2014 21:00 SkyDragon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2014 16:05 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 30 2014 08:35 SkyDragon wrote:
JAT is the person that I would first like to look at and the person that right now I believe most likely to be mafia. He has a few mafia traits in a good many of his posts, he discredits people very early on:

On September 25 2014 17:24 justanothertownie wrote:
I don't like SkyDragon. Constantly claiming he is new BUT has played before. And then he posts things like this:
On September 25 2014 08:24 SkyDragon wrote:
I know I'm new around here but what's up with the vote train on Holyflare? If that isn't considered suspicious as fuck, I don't know what is. Would it not be easier to just let the Seer do his/her job instead of lynching random villag.. I mean, er, "Vanillagers"?

I don't know how people play on the site you are from but this post is the epitome of awful. Since you claim to actually have experience with this kind of setup please enlighten me how the seer of all people is supposed to do his job day fucking 1. How can he lead us to a scumlynch better than anyone else if all he has at this point is a green check? How is he supposed to do that without claiming anyways? Like what?
On September 25 2014 09:42 SkyDragon wrote:
On September 25 2014 09:32 Holyflare wrote:
On September 25 2014 09:27 SkyDragon wrote:
Actually, all three of them claimed to be Town from the off, and HF decided to throw some names out as well (When barely anyone had posted and probably to deflect suspicion from himself). Just thinking out loud.


Riddle me this good sir. What suspicion did I need to deflect and how would I go about doing that with 3 names of people that hadn't even spoken yet?


In my experience, bad guys have stated names right at the very start to divert peoples attention elsewhere. I'm not saying that you're bad, I'm just saying that I'm cautious of anyone who throws names around during the early part of the game.

What should we do instead of throwing names around? Just chill and do nothing?

So again - this guy has played this game already. But he is pretending to know nothing at all about it. What gives?


Instead of finding out exactly what was meant by the above comments and trying to work with someone from the very start instead he attacks the position the person is coming from and effectively negates any impact that person can have. This is a sign of mafia because he's not trying to understand but to discredit the person involved in the conversation.

On September 25 2014 17:50 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 25 2014 17:45 GlowingBear wrote:
On September 25 2014 17:29 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 25 2014 08:54 GlowingBear wrote:
On September 25 2014 08:51 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On September 25 2014 08:49 GlowingBear wrote:
On September 25 2014 08:46 Hopeless1der wrote:
HF confirmed literate. Sadly that's not enough for me to lynch Haru


Hi! I have a feeling that there is a mafia between you and holyflare.

Why not both?


Why do you think this?


I find their buddying style unnatural.
Gonna do some quotations to illustrate what I said, brb

Since when is buddying early day1 a thing mafia teammates do?
On September 25 2014 10:20 Holyflare wrote:
LOL you think I'd go to that much effort to search through a quote to lynchy team mate????

Yes.


Since when that is strictly not possible for mafia?

Did I say that? But you are threating it like a scumtell and it for sure isn't.

On September 25 2014 17:50 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 25 2014 17:48 GlowingBear wrote:
My dribk senses says JAT is possibly mafia

But hey, feel free to elaborate on that.

More discrediting and not trying to understand just attacking for no reason.
On September 25 2014 17:59 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 25 2014 17:56 Holyflare wrote:
I dunno i think gb's a bit townier since his onslaught of cases even if they are misplaced.

Maybe. Maybe not.

On September 26 2014 03:11 justanothertownie wrote:
I still dislike Sky and I think that should be pretty obvious. It's way too early for an opinion on Palmar.

On September 26 2014 05:21 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 26 2014 05:04 SkyDragon wrote:
I'm not going to argue about this any further.
Let's move on..

Sounds good. You could provide some reads instead.

On September 26 2014 15:34 justanothertownie wrote:
Sky at least puts in a good amount of effort now but if you read his posts there are so many contradictions/things that don't make sense. Still don't like him.

On September 26 2014 15:36 justanothertownie wrote:
GB seems afraid/really defensive - might be scum. Reminds me of the scum qt from Fanfic where he was really really afraid I would vig him.
I will elaborate on those reads when I have time in a few hours. Would probably still lynch Sky.

On September 26 2014 20:19 justanothertownie wrote:
Ok, I also don't get townvibes from Hopeless filter. I guess if GB is town Hopeless looks quite shady but I really have doubts about that.

This is mostly from his second and first pages of filter. He tells people to give reads, but never gives any reads himself besides "this person might be scum" or that he doesn't like me because of apparent contradictions that he does not even point out at the time. He says that he pushed me d1, but look at the filter he soft pushed at best. This seems to me like a way mafia would try to push a mislynch so that a townie would take it up and run with it. The way he talks about everyone else he interacts with is mostly painting them in a scummy light.

Also I found the mafia database and compared some of JATs games, and I did find him to be pointed in his questions and his driving discussion if you look at him in some of his more recent games like Fanfiction and The Guilty Mafia, he really drove discussion and pushed people he thought were scummy. In the fanfic, he really thought Damdred was scummy after a small slip and he did not let up on him he hard pushed him and the thread to vote for him or tried to always bring it up. He is not doing this here. At best, he is just offhandedly soft pushing lynches right now, "oh I do not like this guy" "oh you might be scummy".

Now if you compare it to heavy weight championship, you see the same sort of play, JAT is mafia. And if you look at his later filter, it is more of the same and mirrors heavy weight very well and with my other conclusions.

Bullshit. First Sky complains about how I am attacking people all the time, later he complains how I am not pushing people. It makes no fucking sense.
Also Storr brought up a very good point earlier - this post looks a lot like he has been coached by his teammates. Early in the game he seemed totally clueless about everything and now he acts like he not only knows how to use the database but also my meta. Sure, buddy - if people like marv could not identify my scumplay in heavyweight you can surely see the difference to my townplay.


And again, you side-track the issue with more whining and complaining. I've said this for a while now that I'd be surprised if you're not Mafia along with Storr (His complete attitude reversal when he was called out yesterday is just so damn scummy to me).

I am not sidetracking anything. I just brought up multiple reasons why you are scum without any complaining and you did not adress any of it. The one sidetracking is you.
Of course Storr is quite likely to be mafia. I said that much already today - you probably didn't read the thread because you don't care at all.
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13921 Posts
September 30 2014 14:24 GMT
#1977
wat where is the case on me jat
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
September 30 2014 14:30 GMT
#1978
On September 29 2014 23:24 justanothertownie wrote:
Like Storrs reasoning for pushing Palmar is so wrong it can't be unintentional. And you are calling him town for it.

On September 29 2014 23:28 justanothertownie wrote:
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On September 29 2014 09:17 StorrZerg wrote:
On September 28 2014 05:10 Palmar wrote:
Also for what it's worth, I sincerely fucking hope our cop checked Holyflare last night. I am in no mood to argue with him for 15 pages, but there is a chance he is mafia. There's something off about his play here, he's just not.... being smart and analytical enough for my taste.


super fake post.

On September 28 2014 05:16 Palmar wrote:
On September 28 2014 05:14 batsnacks wrote:
This isn't game related or anything, but was English your first language? Your English is really good.

Nope, Icelandic is my first language.

it was strange that palmar talked about this.

On September 28 2014 07:40 Palmar wrote:
Yeah policy lynching Killing for this.


This has to be the 4th or 5tth remark about "policy lynching" I don't think town palmar talks about policy lynches all the time. Most of his pushes day 1, had to do with policy, and today he keeps enforcing policy.

Nothing here makes sense. Palmar talked about the language because he was ASKED about it. He always talks about policies and Storr should know that since he was in the last game where this was a discussed issue.
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On September 29 2014 09:27 StorrZerg wrote:
Palmar hasn't been active in doing anything. He has a lot of posts, but he is doing nothing to progress the game.


His day 1 push was a feeling. Half of his scum reads are because of policy. haru "gotta be scum because he said he was going to a real life event" "killing gotta be scum cause not claiming asap" etc etc etc.



Palmar was the only one who took the time to analyse multiple people without being poked to do so or them being on the chopping block. If there was someone that did things to progress the game -> Palmar.
You don't have to agree with his reads. I didn't either. But saying that Palmar did nothing is just asinine.
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On September 29 2014 09:32 StorrZerg wrote:
On September 29 2014 09:30 Superbia wrote:
On September 29 2014 09:24 StorrZerg wrote:
On September 29 2014 09:22 Superbia wrote:
I don't think Palmar is scum here, should just stick with the vote for today.


NO SWITCH NOW


I'm not convinced man. The whole icelandic thing and the policy lynches thing are both really weak. His fake post? Makes sense from my perspective. The only thing you have on him is the sudden townread on you, which is in no way alignment indicative enough for me to switch. Like do you have any other substantial reads? How did you even switch to Palmar that quickly?


palmar isn't doing anything. Sky could be town and be just bad. super fucking bad. (he still is likely mafia)

palmars previous game, he had reads as town. he "did things" i really don't care if he is known for policy, his entire play has been policy over stupid things. He literally doesn't care about EoD

Palmar gave reads. Probably more of them than anyone else here.

On September 29 2014 23:29 justanothertownie wrote:
Storr is mafia. Sky too.

On September 29 2014 23:34 justanothertownie wrote:
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On September 29 2014 23:34 StorrZerg wrote:
I can't believe he was actually playing this bad. I thought bats was actually the cop with red on palmar. Killing was faking a green on the real cop to give bats another day. Nope...
I feel so retarded.

lol wut
How the hell would Killing know that bats was cop?

On September 29 2014 23:40 justanothertownie wrote:
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On September 29 2014 23:38 StorrZerg wrote:
On September 29 2014 23:34 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 29 2014 23:34 StorrZerg wrote:
I can't believe he was actually playing this bad. I thought bats was actually the cop with red on palmar. Killing was faking a green on the real cop to give bats another day. Nope...
I feel so retarded.

lol wut
How the hell would Killing know that bats was cop?



Because bats "softed" first

If you thought that soft was real you would not have believed that bats had a redcheck on Palmar but on HF.
/dunked

On September 30 2014 00:04 justanothertownie wrote:
Nothing storr says makes any sense.

You are not reading the thread at all, do you?
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13921 Posts
September 30 2014 14:39 GMT
#1979
yeah a bunch of random 1 liners is a fantastic case. my bad for thinking you had made a case that was more than 1 liners and missed it
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
September 30 2014 14:40 GMT
#1980
Because cases are only legit if they are walls of text am I right? If you post several oneliners they areper definition bad because they are one liners. Sick defense bro.
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