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justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
September 28 2014 14:13 GMT
#1384
On September 28 2014 23:02 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Sup.

You too. Who should we lynch today and why?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
September 28 2014 14:30 GMT
#1390
On September 28 2014 23:25 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2014 23:13 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 28 2014 23:02 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Sup.

You too. Who should we lynch today and why?


I'm starting to think about Haru.

I don't really know where he stands on anything now that Killing claimed Seer, and I can't remember anything he has posted except the fact that he dropped Killing from his scumlist for no reason.

Ok. What about Sky?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
September 28 2014 14:31 GMT
#1391
On September 28 2014 23:18 SkyDragon wrote:
Actually, I think I'll remove my lynch vote from Killing. I went out to prove him guilty but now I don't think he is. Looking at it from Killing's perspective (If he's Seer), his posts to date make sense if he really is Seer.

On d1, he knew that Hopeless is Villager, and his posts seem to tally up with that since he defends Hopeless and calls him Town at every opportunity. He also puts him in the 'Town Circle'.

Show nested quote +
On September 26 2014 08:21 Killing wrote:
On September 26 2014 08:04 Superbia wrote:
On September 26 2014 07:57 Killing wrote:
All you need to win this game is a town circle of 7 (including yourself).

Killing
Storr
Superbia
HF
Haru
Hopeless

I personally think that's a strong town circle. Basically just need 1 more and game is easy rares especially since seer will probably come out with red or green on someone scummy tommorow. I really wanna hear reads from obi and bat.


How are you reading hopeless town?


Yolo read off of one post, although I like what else he has said. He's my weakest town atm but at least when I read his posts I thought he was town.


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On September 26 2014 23:26 Killing wrote:
-PALMAR FUCKING MAD THAT HIS TEAM IS LOSING SO HE'S TRYING TO MAKE A CASE ON HOPELESS. I also think he's mad that my town circle is god tier amazing so he's trying to lynch me. When I roll town, I just assume everything I'm doing is right so when people go against me, I'm always highly suspicious that I'm just about to truck mafia and they are getting mad at about it.

-I don't know if you guys get mad when vts tell the seer who they think they should check but I think palmar is a really great check. He had unsubstantiated reads at the start of the day who ended up being scum read and then he backed off of them and I believe that now he's trying to start a BW onto hopeless when his partners are under fire.

Other than that, I also think GB would be a good check. A lot of people are trying to kill him ( including myself), if he flips mafia then good stuff and if he flips town, I think that's also good info.

IN B4 PALMAR STARTS YELLING AT ME great stuff can't wait

Updated Reads:

Town
-Storr
-HF
-Haru
-Obi
-SuperBia
-Hopeless (u mad palmar??????)


Show nested quote +
On September 27 2014 05:18 Killing wrote:
On September 25 2014 08:20 HaruRH wrote:
On September 25 2014 08:16 Holyflare wrote:
On September 25 2014 08:14 HaruRH wrote:
FINALLY MY FIRST GREEN VANILLA TOWN GAME IN AGES YESSSSSSS


this is bull shit

##vote harurh


You don't have to believe me as I'm more excited to celebrate the fact that i rolled vt than trying to convince you i am vt


I don't correlate activity with alignment. If someone makes 3 posts and I find the posts townie, I call them town. I believe hopeless is town.


In response to the vote train on Hopeless and he probably didn't want to make it obvious that he was Seer.

Show nested quote +
On September 27 2014 09:51 Killing wrote:
HOPELESS BW IS FUCKING BAD PLEASE ALL OFF


Show nested quote +
On September 27 2014 09:57 Killing wrote:
But for serious, this is a shit vote


At this stage, Hopeless was lynched and Killing had already spied on Bats to confirm him as Villager:

Show nested quote +
On September 28 2014 00:46 Killing wrote:
Me and snatbacks vs the world


I think he just started getting irritated with the accusations of being scum:

Show nested quote +
On September 28 2014 05:39 Killing wrote:
On September 28 2014 05:37 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 28 2014 05:36 Fecalfeast wrote:
JAT you didn't really push killing today. All I could find from D2 that you said about killing is:
On September 28 2014 00:13 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 28 2014 00:11 HaruRH wrote:
On September 28 2014 00:10 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 28 2014 00:06 Holyflare wrote:
I dislike people that say random shit like "mafia led bandwagons" but then don't point out how it was mafia led or what causes it, it's so superficial and useless.

Indeed. Same about "there are that many mafia on this wagon and one on the others". Completely baseless and stupid statement.


You're just jelly.

Nah. Killing killing might be a very good idea though, I admit.

On September 28 2014 00:16 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 28 2014 00:15 Killing wrote:
On September 28 2014 00:13 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 28 2014 00:11 HaruRH wrote:
On September 28 2014 00:10 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 28 2014 00:06 Holyflare wrote:
I dislike people that say random shit like "mafia led bandwagons" but then don't point out how it was mafia led or what causes it, it's so superficial and useless.

Indeed. Same about "there are that many mafia on this wagon and one on the others". Completely baseless and stupid statement.


You're just jelly.

Nah. Killing killing might be a very good idea though, I admit.


TELL ME WHY I'M MAFIA. PLEASE

You came in 5 minutes before deadline shitting on the lynch and were way too sure that hopeless would flip town.


I don't know.. Not a very aggressive push in my book.

Maybe you should visit an optician then. Most of my posts today were either pushing for or interrogating Killing.


Can you confirm your only reason you think I'm scum is "You came in 5 minutes before deadline shitting on the lynch and were way too sure that hopeless would flip town"


Show nested quote +
On September 28 2014 05:45 Killing wrote:
On September 28 2014 05:42 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 28 2014 05:39 Killing wrote:
On September 28 2014 05:37 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 28 2014 05:36 Fecalfeast wrote:
JAT you didn't really push killing today. All I could find from D2 that you said about killing is:
On September 28 2014 00:13 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 28 2014 00:11 HaruRH wrote:
On September 28 2014 00:10 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 28 2014 00:06 Holyflare wrote:
I dislike people that say random shit like "mafia led bandwagons" but then don't point out how it was mafia led or what causes it, it's so superficial and useless.

Indeed. Same about "there are that many mafia on this wagon and one on the others". Completely baseless and stupid statement.


You're just jelly.

Nah. Killing killing might be a very good idea though, I admit.

On September 28 2014 00:16 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 28 2014 00:15 Killing wrote:
On September 28 2014 00:13 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 28 2014 00:11 HaruRH wrote:
[quote]

You're just jelly.

Nah. Killing killing might be a very good idea though, I admit.


TELL ME WHY I'M MAFIA. PLEASE

You came in 5 minutes before deadline shitting on the lynch and were way too sure that hopeless would flip town.


I don't know.. Not a very aggressive push in my book.

Maybe you should visit an optician then. Most of my posts today were either pushing for or interrogating Killing.


Can you confirm your only reason you think I'm scum is "You came in 5 minutes before deadline shitting on the lynch and were way too sure that hopeless would flip town"

That is the main reason. You claim to have townread Hopeless all the time but you did NOTHING to stop the lynch from happening. You didn't even try. It doesn't help you that you also did not do anything even remotely towny the whole game.


Meh probably shoulda tried harder but it was pretty impossible so I didn't bother. That's still a terrible reason for scum reading me.


So in the heat of the moment, claimed Seer to put an end to the debate.

Show nested quote +
On September 28 2014 05:47 Killing wrote:
On September 28 2014 05:46 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 28 2014 05:45 Killing wrote:
On September 28 2014 05:42 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 28 2014 05:39 Killing wrote:
On September 28 2014 05:37 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 28 2014 05:36 Fecalfeast wrote:
JAT you didn't really push killing today. All I could find from D2 that you said about killing is:
On September 28 2014 00:13 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 28 2014 00:11 HaruRH wrote:
[quote]

You're just jelly.

Nah. Killing killing might be a very good idea though, I admit.

On September 28 2014 00:16 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 28 2014 00:15 Killing wrote:
[quote]

TELL ME WHY I'M MAFIA. PLEASE

You came in 5 minutes before deadline shitting on the lynch and were way too sure that hopeless would flip town.


I don't know.. Not a very aggressive push in my book.

Maybe you should visit an optician then. Most of my posts today were either pushing for or interrogating Killing.


Can you confirm your only reason you think I'm scum is "You came in 5 minutes before deadline shitting on the lynch and were way too sure that hopeless would flip town"

That is the main reason. You claim to have townread Hopeless all the time but you did NOTHING to stop the lynch from happening. You didn't even try. It doesn't help you that you also did not do anything even remotely towny the whole game.


Meh probably shoulda tried harder but it was pretty impossible so I didn't bother. That's still a terrible reason for scum reading me.

No, it is a very good reason.


GONNA BE A PRETTY FUCKING BAD REASON WHEN I CLAIM SEER


Show nested quote +
On September 28 2014 05:52 Killing wrote:
I'm claiming.

I have a red check, I just wanted to see if I could kill the person today without outing but it seems it's a no go. I think the team is: SkyDragon, Red Check and a random third.


Still think it was a terrible move on his part. The lie about a Red Check made it look even worse for him.

Ok, but I would like to know who you would vote right now. Musing about Killing and/or his alignment is not productive right now.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
September 28 2014 14:45 GMT
#1395
On September 28 2014 23:41 Palmar wrote:
Okay, I feel less confident about Obi being town than I felt day 1. However I think I'm going to have to trust my day 1 read. I just read the interaction where he and Glowbear randomly posted very similar things and he mentioned mindmeld, which is one of the main reasons I thought Obi was town in the first place, as at the time I was pretty convinced GB was town and the wagon on him was bs.

I'm super unsure on Obi, like i further filter readings make me want to not kill other people I might kill him, but I'm sorta doubting it right now.

What a helpful read.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
September 28 2014 14:49 GMT
#1398
On September 28 2014 23:47 Palmar wrote:
JAT do you think HF could be mafia?

Of course he could. But right now he is pushing the right people in my opinion.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
September 28 2014 14:52 GMT
#1402
On September 28 2014 23:49 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2014 23:47 Palmar wrote:
JAT do you think HF could be mafia?

Of course he could. But right now he is pushing the right people in my opinion.

So, do you think he is mafia or why are you asking?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
September 28 2014 14:53 GMT
#1404
On September 28 2014 23:52 Palmar wrote:
Btw why was GB killed?

It's dumb speculation but I'm still interested.

I don't really get that either.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
September 28 2014 14:57 GMT
#1408
On September 28 2014 23:53 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2014 08:34 Fecalfeast wrote:
The fact that nobody was using the voting thread made me think they were joke votes. That's why I didn't use the thread anyway.

Lol I actually like your case holyflare


This is my number 1 post for townreading FF. Holyflare's case is very obviously sort of a troll case, and it seems quite risky for mafia to randomly announced they like that case. It's much safer to just ignore it.

I'm also a bit confused by him. A lot of his attitude from day 1 feels pretty townie, but it doesn't feel very much like he is scumhunting since his reads posts on day 1. I guess I can't blame him with batsnacks and killing trolling the thread.

He goes into the tentative town column too, like Obi.

Meeeh. I think that's a weak read. I mean I agree with you that he isn't very scummy because to me his play looks pretty similar to last game but anyone could say that really. The case wasn't that bad for the start of the game.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
September 28 2014 15:01 GMT
#1413
On September 28 2014 23:58 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2014 23:52 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 28 2014 23:49 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 28 2014 23:47 Palmar wrote:
JAT do you think HF could be mafia?

Of course he could. But right now he is pushing the right people in my opinion.

So, do you think he is mafia or why are you asking?

I'm interested in your opinion, and I'd actually more like to know more specifics.

Basically, HF has a daunting 14 page filter. He's super annoying to deal with as mafia, and is actually very good at mafia. I still do not trust how he joined the Hopeless wagon yesterday, because I feel he should've made up his mind much earlier. It seems strange that after I posted the initial case on Hopeless, he kept doing other stuff for a long time, then joined much later with basically no new evidence (that is if I recall the events correctly).

I feel townflare is confident enough to make a call on my case right there and either disagree or agree. But then again, he has made a few good observations, and he's capable of that as mafia, but as town as well.

This is why I wanted him checked. Problem is the worst player in town seems to have gotten the cop role, so all we're getting out of that is a self-claim + 1 green, which is just as bad as if he had claimed on day 1.

Anyway, I'm almost definitely going to leave HF until last while reading the potential targets, and I'm super afraid I will actually not lynch him ever if he's mafia, because it's just too much work.

I really am the wrong person to ask here. I have an abysmal track record for catching scum HF. He is responsible for 2 of my recent failures.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
September 28 2014 15:02 GMT
#1415
On September 28 2014 23:59 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2014 23:57 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 28 2014 23:53 Palmar wrote:
On September 25 2014 08:34 Fecalfeast wrote:
The fact that nobody was using the voting thread made me think they were joke votes. That's why I didn't use the thread anyway.

Lol I actually like your case holyflare


This is my number 1 post for townreading FF. Holyflare's case is very obviously sort of a troll case, and it seems quite risky for mafia to randomly announced they like that case. It's much safer to just ignore it.

I'm also a bit confused by him. A lot of his attitude from day 1 feels pretty townie, but it doesn't feel very much like he is scumhunting since his reads posts on day 1. I guess I can't blame him with batsnacks and killing trolling the thread.

He goes into the tentative town column too, like Obi.

Meeeh. I think that's a weak read. I mean I agree with you that he isn't very scummy because to me his play looks pretty similar to last game but anyone could say that really. The case wasn't that bad for the start of the game.

Of course. But the lol is important, as in he is not overselling his buy-in on the case. The fact that he wrote "lol" shows that he recognizes it's a bit of a troll case, and he is still willing to support it.

That's true but I still think that is not enough to townread him.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
September 28 2014 15:05 GMT
#1418
Like I think the most scummy people right now are Sky/Haru/maybe Superbia. HF is pushing this way. As long as he does so I won't waste my time trying to read him.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
September 28 2014 15:05 GMT
#1420
On September 29 2014 00:04 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2014 00:02 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 28 2014 23:59 Palmar wrote:
On September 28 2014 23:57 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 28 2014 23:53 Palmar wrote:
On September 25 2014 08:34 Fecalfeast wrote:
The fact that nobody was using the voting thread made me think they were joke votes. That's why I didn't use the thread anyway.

Lol I actually like your case holyflare


This is my number 1 post for townreading FF. Holyflare's case is very obviously sort of a troll case, and it seems quite risky for mafia to randomly announced they like that case. It's much safer to just ignore it.

I'm also a bit confused by him. A lot of his attitude from day 1 feels pretty townie, but it doesn't feel very much like he is scumhunting since his reads posts on day 1. I guess I can't blame him with batsnacks and killing trolling the thread.

He goes into the tentative town column too, like Obi.

Meeeh. I think that's a weak read. I mean I agree with you that he isn't very scummy because to me his play looks pretty similar to last game but anyone could say that really. The case wasn't that bad for the start of the game.

Of course. But the lol is important, as in he is not overselling his buy-in on the case. The fact that he wrote "lol" shows that he recognizes it's a bit of a troll case, and he is still willing to support it.

That's true but I still think that is not enough to townread him.

Sure, you don't have to townread him, but it's still better than anything else I have. Like if I read you, hf, haru, sky, superbia, storr and you all look super town, I'll be all for lynching FF, but at the moment he feels more in the town column, mostly based on this.

Ok, whatever. Go on.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
September 28 2014 15:09 GMT
#1422
On September 29 2014 00:05 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2014 00:01 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 28 2014 23:58 Palmar wrote:
On September 28 2014 23:52 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 28 2014 23:49 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 28 2014 23:47 Palmar wrote:
JAT do you think HF could be mafia?

Of course he could. But right now he is pushing the right people in my opinion.

So, do you think he is mafia or why are you asking?

I'm interested in your opinion, and I'd actually more like to know more specifics.

Basically, HF has a daunting 14 page filter. He's super annoying to deal with as mafia, and is actually very good at mafia. I still do not trust how he joined the Hopeless wagon yesterday, because I feel he should've made up his mind much earlier. It seems strange that after I posted the initial case on Hopeless, he kept doing other stuff for a long time, then joined much later with basically no new evidence (that is if I recall the events correctly).

I feel townflare is confident enough to make a call on my case right there and either disagree or agree. But then again, he has made a few good observations, and he's capable of that as mafia, but as town as well.

This is why I wanted him checked. Problem is the worst player in town seems to have gotten the cop role, so all we're getting out of that is a self-claim + 1 green, which is just as bad as if he had claimed on day 1.

Anyway, I'm almost definitely going to leave HF until last while reading the potential targets, and I'm super afraid I will actually not lynch him ever if he's mafia, because it's just too much work.

I really am the wrong person to ask here. I have an abysmal track record for catching scum HF. He is responsible for 2 of my recent failures.


I know you are the wrong person, that is precisely why I'm asking you. You have barely even mentioned holyflare at all this game. I think the closest thing you came to talking about him was your ninja vote commentary. That's nothing. In fact I feel like you guys haven't interacted all that much throughout the game, which feels sorta weird.

I don't think this is true.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
September 28 2014 15:22 GMT
#1428
On September 29 2014 00:15 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2014 00:09 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 29 2014 00:05 Palmar wrote:
On September 29 2014 00:01 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 28 2014 23:58 Palmar wrote:
On September 28 2014 23:52 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 28 2014 23:49 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 28 2014 23:47 Palmar wrote:
JAT do you think HF could be mafia?

Of course he could. But right now he is pushing the right people in my opinion.

So, do you think he is mafia or why are you asking?

I'm interested in your opinion, and I'd actually more like to know more specifics.

Basically, HF has a daunting 14 page filter. He's super annoying to deal with as mafia, and is actually very good at mafia. I still do not trust how he joined the Hopeless wagon yesterday, because I feel he should've made up his mind much earlier. It seems strange that after I posted the initial case on Hopeless, he kept doing other stuff for a long time, then joined much later with basically no new evidence (that is if I recall the events correctly).

I feel townflare is confident enough to make a call on my case right there and either disagree or agree. But then again, he has made a few good observations, and he's capable of that as mafia, but as town as well.

This is why I wanted him checked. Problem is the worst player in town seems to have gotten the cop role, so all we're getting out of that is a self-claim + 1 green, which is just as bad as if he had claimed on day 1.

Anyway, I'm almost definitely going to leave HF until last while reading the potential targets, and I'm super afraid I will actually not lynch him ever if he's mafia, because it's just too much work.

I really am the wrong person to ask here. I have an abysmal track record for catching scum HF. He is responsible for 2 of my recent failures.


I know you are the wrong person, that is precisely why I'm asking you. You have barely even mentioned holyflare at all this game. I think the closest thing you came to talking about him was your ninja vote commentary. That's nothing. In fact I feel like you guys haven't interacted all that much throughout the game, which feels sorta weird.

I don't think this is true.


I stand corrected. I forgot to press the "all" button when ctrl+f ing your filter so I missed a bunch of interactions.

Anyway I still want you to consider it. You know as well as me that if HF is mafia, it's going to take both of us to lynch him.

I will consider it. But I really don't think he is the lynch today.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
September 28 2014 15:32 GMT
#1433
On September 29 2014 00:31 Palmar wrote:
I'm off for a bit, coming up, haru, storr and skydragon.

leaving jat and hf, but also leaving a formal request that jat and hf both look really hard at each other.

You are a lazy and awful human being.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
September 28 2014 20:03 GMT
#1496
On September 29 2014 04:19 SkyDragon wrote:
- JAT hasn't really done much all game in my view

Let's see. I was the first one to really push you as far as I remember and I did so for nearly all day1. I only changed to Hopeless because HF made a pretty convincing argument about that guy.
I was the one pushing hard for Killing today. I am one of the people pushing hard to lynch you now.
Yeah, sure I haven't done much. Now die.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
September 28 2014 20:04 GMT
#1497
On September 29 2014 03:42 SkyDragon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2014 23:31 justanothertownie wrote:
Ok, but I would like to know who you would vote right now. Musing about Killing and/or his alignment is not productive right now.


Well, if you really want to know, just from seeing your filter, I'd vote for you to be lynched. All you've done since the start of d1 is whine, complain and point fingers at others. You haven't really contributed anything at all but have talked enough to make it appear as if you have. Neither have you pushed anyone yourself except those who are being pushed by someone else anyway (You seem more than happy to jump on the bandwagon) and haven't said anything original at all.

I'm starting to think that you're scum.

Blatant lie.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
September 28 2014 20:05 GMT
#1498
On September 29 2014 00:31 Palmar wrote:
I'm off for a bit, coming up, haru, storr and skydragon.

leaving jat and hf, but also leaving a formal request that jat and hf both look really hard at each other.

On September 29 2014 05:00 Palmar wrote:
##vote Justanothertownie

Process of elimination, but whatever lynch sky if you want.

You might want to explain this.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
September 28 2014 20:12 GMT
#1500
On September 29 2014 05:11 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2014 05:05 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 29 2014 00:31 Palmar wrote:
I'm off for a bit, coming up, haru, storr and skydragon.

leaving jat and hf, but also leaving a formal request that jat and hf both look really hard at each other.

On September 29 2014 05:00 Palmar wrote:
##vote Justanothertownie

Process of elimination, but whatever lynch sky if you want.

You might want to explain this.

left house, won't have time to finish. Had a townread on storr yesterday, and skydragon seems to be fairly genuine in his latest posting (not that I have read his filter)

Also, I just feel like there's too much agreement on this lynch. Maybe it's a bus, he did have that post with the massive overjustification for his presence on the hopeless wagon.

Are you actually mafia?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
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September 28 2014 20:13 GMT
#1503
You want to lynch me FOR POE when you didn't even read the main wagons filter?
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