Sky, why did you dismiss the entirety of batsnacks case and instead vote him when 2 or 3 players have expressed that they actually like his case? Disregarding the bit about the 3rd person thing.

Holyflare

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September 26 2014 00:58 GMT

#495

On September 26 2014 08:23 Killing wrote:

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This post basically said exactly what I was thinking at the time.

I had to come back to this because Fecal actually said this thing first so hopeless has basically just copied the same sentiment. Hopeless COULD be scum at this present time but for now he's pretty null because of it.

Holyflare

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September 26 2014 00:59 GMT

#496

On September 26 2014 09:54 GlowingBear wrote:
Holyflower, who's scum?

TBD

Holyflare

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September 26 2014 01:18 GMT

#504

On September 26 2014 10:08 SkyDragon wrote:
Of course I was. You guys play differently to what I'm used to. Hell, pushing someone to prove that they're not scum like what happened to you wouldn't have resulted in your opponent deflecting it and insisting that I prove to myself that you're not scum. Like what? Who says that? Lol.

You disregarded his entire case on GB that looked very long, don't you think he'd be a little infuriated that you started to throw accusations back at him without commenting on it at all?

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September 26 2014 01:44 GMT

#512

On September 26 2014 10:32 SkyDragon wrote:
I do the same thing as well whereby you want to see the reaction that something generates. It's the way I play as well but it seems to have blown all out of proportion because people haven't given time for things to calm down and allow the real motives to become clear. My intention was to remove the lynch vote from Bats (It wasn't a serious vote) after a while if he hadn't cracked or anything but people have already prematurely assumed that I'm weirdly just all over the place and that I must be scum.

Bats made an unexpected appearance but the original three names that I stated were the people I wanted a confrontation with had he not decided to comment. Doesn't matter much now anyway. All I know is that I'm going to stay quiet from next game, whether I'm Town or Mafia.

The thing about team liquid is that until people know you then trickery and hidden motives like you are claiming to be doing (with fake votes etc for pressure) just look disingenuous and like you're trying to throw suspicion on people until it sticks and you can get a mislynch. It is far far far better at this stage of the game for you to be honest and open and point out things you dislike rather than try and work things out like you are implying you are doing.

Also, you stated that you had a case on storr but dropped it for batsnacks voting. Now we know that your vote on batsnacks wasn't really a real one was your "case" on storr also a lie? If so then why on earth did you not post it in favour of chasing up some silly pressure vote?

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September 26 2014 10:30 GMT

#539

On September 26 2014 18:43 Palmar wrote:
There's nothing alignment indicative in HaruRH's posts. However he has two posts that make me angry we don't have a vigilante this game for clearing out trash. I wish he was dead.

He's a very, very good default lynch this game (that is, if somehow all our scumreads start looking townie-ish)

Evidence 1.

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"I'm not going to do anything until end of day 1, and thus be of no help"

Evidence 2.

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Real life excuses should be policy lynches. Every time it's mafia making them for some reason.

Anyway, tbh that first post, if anything, sounds slightly more townie than scummy (the defiance that he is not going to cave in to pressure for reads and do things his way). It's a terrible way to play and it makes me a) not want to play with Haru, and b) want to kill Haru, but it is what it is, and I don't think he's a good lynch unless we have no other options.

How does this make sense at all? You say there's nothing alignment indicative in haru's filter but then you say that rather than nothing there's one post (first quote) that is probably towny indicative.... but you want to kill haru...?

Holyflare

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September 26 2014 10:37 GMT

#540

On September 26 2014 15:38 justanothertownie wrote:

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Could you explain this?

Sure.

On September 26 2014 08:34 SkyDragon wrote:
I was actually in the middle of writing a long post about Storr (Hence why I went quiet) but refreshed the page and saw your diatribe aimed at both me and GB. GB is clearly forcing people to talk by claiming that they're suspicious and I think that it's a good strategy. It doesn't matter whether he backtracks because the point is to force people out of the shadows and defend themselves. You just don't get that.

This post. Sky disregards the entirety of batsnacks long posts about GB in like 1 or 2 sentences even though the case was pretty good. The bolded just seemed super weird in context because it's like "hey can't you see this guy is blatantly doing this!" when in actual fact he isn't really and it just seemed he knew GB's motives better than anyone else in the game did.

Holyflare

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September 26 2014 10:48 GMT

#541

it's slightly frustrating/weird/scummy that whenever you ask a question to skydragon he seems to overlook half of it and only responds to select pieces. He never responded to me about whether his storr case was also fake or not.

Holyflare

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September 26 2014 11:10 GMT

#553

On September 26 2014 20:04 Palmar wrote:
Why are you guys not commenting on my feeling about Hopeless, do you have a particular reason to think he's town? Am I missing something?

because he's being useless and probably mafia

Holyflare

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September 26 2014 11:15 GMT

#556

On September 26 2014 20:11 Palmar wrote:

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So we kill?

could do ya

Holyflare

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September 26 2014 11:34 GMT

#559

i dunno man i just don't see mafia gb making those terrible starting cases and then believing they were good and sticking to them atm even if he is doing scummy things

Holyflare

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September 26 2014 11:36 GMT

#560

also agree with whoever said obi was likely town, he has a good level of thread knowledge/questioning for him

Holyflare

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September 26 2014 11:40 GMT

#561

urgh it could be as simple as haru/hopeless/x (sky/maybegb/someone else)

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