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On October 02 2014 07:04 StorrZerg wrote:
@jat mafia would gain more for palmer going first. Thing is its very likely the whole palmar lynch was done by just town. Hell if obi is scum, he gets someone else to hammer /help. AND mafia don't kill holyflare in that situation.
wat
This still doesn't even make the slightes bit of sense.
So why did mafia kill HF btw.?
On October 02 2014 08:28 StorrZerg wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2014 08:19 Fecalfeast wrote:
JaT's filter is 90% responding to someone and asking then to elaborate with hardly any posts that take up more than 3 lines without quotes. Seems like a lot of fluff to make himself look like he's trying to solve the game with one-liners.
Super hasn't posted much this day but his posts yesterday looked decent to me. I'd put him in null for now.
What am I supposed to read on VE? The person he replaced was practically full afk and was quite a few people's picks for lynching today if sky flipped green. Now VE is here and posting more than haru did the rest of the game.
JaT and maybe Haru/VE if you're gonna be lame and force me to answer your question but I don't feel confident calling either VE or Super mafia at ths point.
I would prefer to vote Obi over JaT based on filters alone, though.
Why are you and Obi paired together so tightly? It's just based on votes, right? no. logically i don't want to vote obi today. From my point of view, even if obi is mafia. There are 2 mafia within FF, Super, Jat, VE. So even if you think obi is mafia, You have to also think there are two from your point of view within Super, Jat, VE. If obi is town, then there are 3 mafia within the 4.
That is not logical. Not even a bit. You aren't improving your odds of lynching scum by removing Obi from the equation one bit.
On October 02 2014 10:32 StorrZerg wrote:
Voting VE.
Not sure which of the 4 i like the most as town. But Ve makes sense for now, I really liked my case against haru, I don't like how he is playing this day. First his sudden aggression on myself. And now his refusal to move off obi, even though his case isn't that great.
I've asked him to explain more, and instead i'm met with "not listening to you any more" and his persistence on pushing obi.
And refusal to look into more detail on the list of 4.
I am baffled at how anyone could think that VE is the scummiest here. Haru was fucking scummy, yes. But if you look at VEs play today and call it mafia I am calling you mafia.
On October 02 2014 11:30 StorrZerg wrote:
Personally. I think jats play has been super lack luster. Can't remember anything about his play or impact in the game. With out diving back into his filter.
WHAT? Then who was the one pushing the hardest for lynching Skydragon yesterday? ME. And that's not the only thing I did this game that you can't possibly have forgotten. You can call me scummy for pushing a mislynch but you can't give me this shit.
On October 02 2014 14:35 StorrZerg wrote:
Most of this isn't a read on obi, rather observations of the game involving him, and logically it's better for town to be lynching within the named 4.
4. I dont. Again it's my logic train. I really don't have a solid read on him, and I'm not lynching him, so I don't care about him all that much.
Repeating the same bullshit does not make it any more true. This is fucking idiotic if you are town.
On October 02 2014 15:09 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2014 14:26 Fecalfeast wrote:On October 02 2014 14:07 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like, that's part of why I want to lynch you. You're being very unreasonable. EVEN IF you are town and think I'm mafia, you're generally reasonable as town. You don't speak TO your scumreads either when you're town, as town you generally know that arguing with scumreads is fruitless so when you post about your scumreads you tend to speak ABOUT them in a general sense as if you're actually speaking to OTHER townies to try and convince them. If you're town then your play is drastically different than I remember it being. I thought the switch onto Palmar made you town, but frankly your play this cycle and JAT's points nullify that for me so I think you're mafia. If you think his town play is drastically different this game and were basing your townread on him on his switch to palmar alone how could you call him confirmed town ever? Seems weird to call someone confirmed town just to call them mafia after they point a finger at you... I have a clearer picture of his motives now that I've seen him play this cycle. Like, look at how he townreads Haru until it's convenient for him. I couldn't even FIND his case on Haru because there WAS no case. I assumed there was one because he said there was, and when he pointed out what he was calling his case and I read it, that really made me look at his posting this cycle. Look at how he's treating Obi - he refuses to call him town, but gives several reasons WHY he thinks he's town. He's either keeping his options open or he's going for the win WITH Obi THIS cycle - that would explain his nonsensical push on the other 4 players AND his wishywashy attitude about Obi. Storr was pointing a finger at me long before he voted for me. He was calling me mafia before I even posted (he was reading Haru mafia remember) so I called him confirmed town WHILE he was pointing a finger at me. If you thought YOUR observation was weird, CHEW ON THAT.
This is a very good post.
On October 02 2014 15:53 StorrZerg wrote:
VE mafia, tunnels the easiest person he thinks he can that is town for the win. He doesn't want to be in this mess of a game, i don't blame him.
Town VE, upset sure. I don't think he tunnels this badly though. He seemed to care about figuring out the game, but clearly he doesn't care.
How the fuck are you the easiest person to tunnel for him? I thought you were "confirmed town" from the Palmar lynch?
On October 02 2014 16:04 StorrZerg wrote:
5. The palmar swtich confirms me as town.
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On October 02 2014 08:05 Fecalfeast wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2014 08:03 Fecalfeast wrote:On October 02 2014 07:59 StorrZerg wrote:
@ff I want to know if you read obi town, or myself town, or neither. And why. You: town, I have had you as town most of the game. I don't have a good read on obi I can't recall his posts off the top of my head. I have been reading super's and JaT's filters but I will go through obi's now and continue the others later. Give me a sec. As for why I read you town, you have been posting tonnes and actually trying to reason with people about reads rather than just responding to what others say and asking for elaborations like, say, JaT
If there is anyone only asking others to do stuff or to elaborate it is fucking storrzerg. Wtf. If there was anyone who reasoned with peoples read yesterday - it was me. You are scum.
On October 02 2014 08:19 Fecalfeast wrote:
JaT's filter is 90% responding to someone and asking then to elaborate with hardly any posts that take up more than 3 lines without quotes. Seems like a lot of fluff to make himself look like he's trying to solve the game with one-liners.
rofl
Now you are telling me short posts make me mafia? I propose that you take a look at any towngame of mine. Also if you think pushing my reads for 3 days is fluff then well, I guess my filter is full of it.
On October 02 2014 08:35 Fecalfeast wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2014 08:28 StorrZerg wrote:On October 02 2014 08:19 Fecalfeast wrote:
JaT's filter is 90% responding to someone and asking then to elaborate with hardly any posts that take up more than 3 lines without quotes. Seems like a lot of fluff to make himself look like he's trying to solve the game with one-liners.
Super hasn't posted much this day but his posts yesterday looked decent to me. I'd put him in null for now.
What am I supposed to read on VE? The person he replaced was practically full afk and was quite a few people's picks for lynching today if sky flipped green. Now VE is here and posting more than haru did the rest of the game.
JaT and maybe Haru/VE if you're gonna be lame and force me to answer your question but I don't feel confident calling either VE or Super mafia at ths point.
I would prefer to vote Obi over JaT based on filters alone, though.
Why are you and Obi paired together so tightly? It's just based on votes, right? no. logically i don't want to vote obi today. From my point of view, even if obi is mafia. There are 2 mafia within FF, Super, Jat, VE. So even if you think obi is mafia, You have to also think there are two from your point of view within Super, Jat, VE. If obi is town, then there are 3 mafia within the 4. I, barring a slap of logic, point the finger of suspicion at JaT then.
You do realize that you will need a "slap of logic" at some point today, yes? It is LYLO.
On October 02 2014 10:39 Fecalfeast wrote:
Here's where my wifom meter goes crazy though. Mafia reads the thread, sees that more than one person have said "If sky flips town HF or Haru is mafia!!" so, seeing the oppourtunity to get an easy win they kill HF to narrow people down to killing Haru who may have just been afk town.
Makes no sense. Why would they limit their mislynch opportunites from 2 to 1.
On October 02 2014 11:19 Fecalfeast wrote:
I think I finally understand why you think obi isn't worth it for today.
Out of the other 3 I want to say JaT for reasons I have already specified. (a very bloated filter with hardly any self-generated content)
Every single word in this post is scummy. Holy shit. There is no reason for the Obi thing and having a big filter (the biggest in the game I think) is certainly not a scum trait. I also have undoubtly created way more original content than you have.
On October 02 2014 14:35 Fecalfeast wrote:I think if we are voting between obi and storr that obi is the better pick just based on effort put in. Storr:I went back and read your reasoning on not looking at obi tonight + Show Spoiler +On October 02 2014 08:28 StorrZerg wrote: Show nested quote +On October 02 2014 08:19 Fecalfeast wrote:
JaT's filter is 90% responding to someone and asking then to elaborate with hardly any posts that take up more than 3 lines without quotes. Seems like a lot of fluff to make himself look like he's trying to solve the game with one-liners.
Super hasn't posted much this day but his posts yesterday looked decent to me. I'd put him in null for now.
What am I supposed to read on VE? The person he replaced was practically full afk and was quite a few people's picks for lynching today if sky flipped green. Now VE is here and posting more than haru did the rest of the game.
JaT and maybe Haru/VE if you're gonna be lame and force me to answer your question but I don't feel confident calling either VE or Super mafia at ths point.
I would prefer to vote Obi over JaT based on filters alone, though.
Why are you and Obi paired together so tightly? It's just based on votes, right?
no. logically i don't want to vote obi today. From my point of view, even if obi is mafia.
There are 2 mafia within FF, Super, Jat, VE.
So even if you think obi is mafia, You have to also think there are two from your point of view within Super, Jat, VE.
If obi is town, then there are 3 mafia within the 4. and it's really doesn't make sense to me. You basically say "Well from my point of view I'm town and obi might be mafia OR town so there are at least 2 mafia in the rest of people so ignore obi for now" That works with anyone in the game replace obi with anyone else alive in the game and your 'logic' works. How did I let that slide before?
On October 02 2014 14:46 Fecalfeast wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2014 08:28 StorrZerg wrote:On October 02 2014 08:19 Fecalfeast wrote:
JaT's filter is 90% responding to someone and asking then to elaborate with hardly any posts that take up more than 3 lines without quotes. Seems like a lot of fluff to make himself look like he's trying to solve the game with one-liners.
Super hasn't posted much this day but his posts yesterday looked decent to me. I'd put him in null for now.
What am I supposed to read on VE? The person he replaced was practically full afk and was quite a few people's picks for lynching today if sky flipped green. Now VE is here and posting more than haru did the rest of the game.
JaT and maybe Haru/VE if you're gonna be lame and force me to answer your question but I don't feel confident calling either VE or Super mafia at ths point.
I would prefer to vote Obi over JaT based on filters alone, though.
Why are you and Obi paired together so tightly? It's just based on votes, right? no. logically i don't want to vote obi today. From my point of view, even if obi is mafia. There are 2 mafia within FF, Super, Jat, VE. So even if you think obi is mafia, You have to also think there are two from your point of view within Super, Jat, VE. If obi is town, then there are 3 mafia within the 4. Okay now watch this: Logically i don't want to vote VE today. From my point of view, even if VE is mafia. There are 2 mafia within Storr, Super, Jat, Obi. So even if you think VE is mafia, You have to also think there are two from your point of view within Super, Jat, Obi.
LOL. This guy calls me out for not having original content and just blatantly rehashes exactly what I said earlier. roflroflrofl
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Voting FF since there is like a minimal possibilty for Storr to just act really really stupid. Also whoever of you is towny don't forget that we ALL need to vote together. So, if you want to lynch someone you need to convince batsnacks that it is the correct target. If you vote for someone else than he does at the end of the day town literally cannot win.
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Will be back in the evening.
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On October 02 2014 20:46 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2014 20:19 justanothertownie wrote:
Voting FF since there is like a minimal possibilty for Storr to just act really really stupid. Also whoever of you is towny don't forget that we ALL need to vote together. So, if you want to lynch someone you need to convince batsnacks that it is the correct target. If you vote for someone else than he does at the end of the day town literally cannot win. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. .....I can assure you, that's a deep, rumbly and intimidating growl, not the silly cute growl it looks like on screen. You vote for Storrzerg this instant JAT. Or the bark comes next. Then the bite. Then.... you don't wanna KNOW what comes next.
What if I do wanna know? 
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On October 02 2014 22:49 StorrZerg wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2014 21:25 VisceraEyes wrote:On October 02 2014 21:02 batsnacks wrote:On October 02 2014 20:35 VisceraEyes wrote:On October 02 2014 20:24 batsnacks wrote:
FF or Store is fine. Would prefer Store right now. I'm kind of burnt out on this game. Vote for Storr and we'll bring this game back to LIFE. I voted store first Well....I mean, I know...I'm just sayin. Don't move it. Cause there's literally no way Storr is town. He's never town in a million years in this game. why not. i am town. You guys shouldn't be letting VE run this lynch today, who hasn't read the entire game, who doesn't know the interactions of everyone or why i was being town read by super hard by killing, palmar. and town read at the end by HF.
This sounds like you are suddenly townreading VE.
On October 02 2014 23:02 StorrZerg wrote:
By convincing town people that i am town. I can help them eliminate obi, and look at the other 4. They have a 66% shot at hitting mafia or even 100% if obi is town.
LIKE THIS WHOLE FUCKING PLAN DOESN"T MEAN SHIT IF I GET RAIL ROADED.
like i'm sorry i'm trying to be the god damn mayor of this crap. and what is mafia doing? sitting by...
where is super where is FF what are they doing to progress the game?
The plan doesn't mean shit regardless. It is a dumb plan.
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On October 02 2014 23:00 StorrZerg wrote:
mafia kill HF because bats is a dumb town.
Because HF was going to not push on obi or storr today, because he thought everyone on palmar was probably town.
Because mafia only need to have 3 votes while 1 town isn't voting. to win. Will holyflare be active end of day to win the game for town? YES will bats do fuck all? who knows.
On October 02 2014 23:21 StorrZerg wrote:
I wanted to lynch VE hard today. Why would i fucking kill someone like this unless i was with ve............................ Like seriously use your heads guys, follow the logic its there i swear. If i'm mafia, i'm playing for the god damn win this day, i'm not killing HF in a million years cause i would be town reading him today, and pocketing him. I would have 100% killed the uncontrollable batsnacks who happens to be confirmed town.
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At least store is doing something but I don't get how he is scumreading VE. He also still talks to him as if VE was town. Then he says HF was clearly the better night kill but he would NEVER kill HF instead of batsnacks. Like what?
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On October 03 2014 01:26 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2014 01:20 VisceraEyes wrote:
Site me where HF town reads Storrzerg and I might stop tuning you out. You sag he was defending you hard. I'm not at a computer, wrote the post. Show nested quote +On October 01 2014 05:57 Holyflare wrote:
I gave you my answer - the names. From what i remember haru, storr and super were off both wagons (that are alive) and the rest (fecal, you (switched before) [batsnacks], jat, obi, sky, someone?) switched fast when i made my case
That's an observation. Not a read.
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On October 03 2014 01:32 StorrZerg wrote:
@ve explain why killimg hf is beneficial to me.
You yourself answered that already. I even quoted the post recently.
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On October 03 2014 01:39 StorrZerg wrote:
Literally 0 reason for anyone to think both obi and I could be scum with the hf death.
No meta play, it's simple scum wants to win. A scum team of obi/myself never kill hf.
Fact that ve keeps pushing we are together is why he is so wrong
Now he is wrong so you DO read him town?
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On October 03 2014 01:41 StorrZerg wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2014 01:38 VisceraEyes wrote:On October 03 2014 01:32 StorrZerg wrote:
@ve explain why killimg hf is beneficial to me. Because HE THINKS YOU COULD BE MAFIA! He NEVER EVER says he's reading you as town. EVER STORR! He stopped reading me as mafia. The fact that ve is happy to keep pushing this till proven wrong is absurd. When he is proven wrong " ops must have missed that, remember guys I just replaced, I won't catch everything "
Well, if it is so easy then prove him wrong please because I don't remember HF defending you OR Obi.
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And even if he said that you are town that in itself is a very good reason for you to kill him so you can say it right now. You know that HF would have reevaluated everything today. You even posted about how dangerous he would have been for scum yourself.
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On October 03 2014 01:54 batsnacks wrote:
##vote: VE
See you guys later
This is a mistake. Please think about this.
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On October 03 2014 03:57 StorrZerg wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2014 02:46 VisceraEyes wrote:
That's all based on a Sky scumflip. That's all based on his read of a player which is INCORRECT Storr. Holy ABSOLUTELY would have reevaluated today, ESPECIALLY with me replacing in and Sky flipping town. OBVIOUSLY Storr. He was MUSING about the idea because it was still based on the incorrect assumption that Sky is MAFIA.
Again, Holyflare might have considered you town briefly on D3, but with the extra information that Sky is town who knows what he might have thought next? We'll never know will we because HOLYFLARE IS DEAD. Makes me look a hella lot more town, exactly why he looks hella town if sky flips. What fucking mafia team switches a for sure town lynch, to another town lynch last second. Ill tell you, they don't HE WOULD HAVE GONE AFTER HARU TODAY, AND NOT ME. THE ONLY WAY HE WOULD HAVE BEEN CONSIDERING ME WOULD BE IF SKY FLIPPED MAFIA. because in that case "i saved sky by pushing palmar" same with "obi" and people who stuck on sky would be more town. The fact that you are trying to make it appear like we have "no idea" what holy was thinking is absurd. He didn't have me in the mafia circle, ergo i was not on his radar as scum, ergo he wouldn't want to lynch me. Specially since we both wanted to lynch haru, we both pushed plamar as town. Its simple, at the time, if i was mafia, Bats dies, i push haru with holy for the win. There was no indication that haru was going to be replaced. The fact that you are in the game doesn't mean anything. We don't know how he would react, and you absolutely can't justify you know how he would act right now. If anything he 100% wouldn't be pushing me regardless.
Townies and especially good townies like HF don't go into LYLO and without reevaluating the game/rethinking their reads and I think you know that. The fact that you are trying to clear yourself of the dead townies read that you are maybe/potentially not scum could be the reason he is dead in the first place. It is equally wrong as your "townread Obi for no reason" plan.
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Like I am pretty certain that there is at least one mafia between you and Obi and you are pushing this agenda of ignoring the 2 of you. Does not look good.
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On October 03 2014 04:14 StorrZerg wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2014 04:09 justanothertownie wrote:
Like I am pretty certain that there is at least one mafia between you and Obi and you are pushing this agenda of ignoring the 2 of you. Does not look good. thats fine if you think 1 is mafia. Thats a 50% chance at hitting the right one if you flip a coin. Deal is from your perspective, that means out of FF, Super, VE you have 2 mafia. So you should be defining 2! scum reads in that group, because THERE HAS to be 2 in that group, thats 66%.
What part of AT LEAST ONE MAFIA do you not understand? No, there don't HAVE TO BE 2 mafia in that group. It is possible but far from certain. I am not mafia. I am pretty sure that VE is not mafia. That leaves FF and super who could be scum. That means there is AT LEAST one between you and Obi. But it is also possible that you are both scum.
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On October 03 2014 04:18 StorrZerg wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2014 04:12 VisceraEyes wrote:
And that's ALL he's doing. Like, I'm bringing MY OWN points to the table, every time Storr is asked to do that he just says "Nope, give me your reads on X,Y,Z - obey because all the dead townies called me town."
I'm so done with this conversation. It's destroying the thread and accomplishing nothing. My accusation on you stands Storrzerg - your explanation for the whole bats/Joey thing doesn't make any sense. Your plan to clear yourself AND Obi based on switching to a TOWNIE at the end of the day is ludicrous and you're still trying to paint me as mafia when I'm clearly not.
I'll provide my reads on the other players before end of day. I intend to continue to try and get my lynch through based on the GOOD reasoning I've provided. You think Obi and i could both be mafia. Which has very poor logic behind that, and is super far fetched. So if you down grade to 1 mafia between us. thats 50% as i said to jat. Its in your best interest to be lynching within Jat/ff/super since you are guaranteed 2 mafia in that group, 66% hence why i can defend obi on principle that he ISN"T the lynch today, and NEITHER am i. The only way Lynching either myself or obi is fine for today, from a "whole town standpoint" is if the majority think we are BOTH mafia,. That is NOT the case.
NO. The bolded part makes no fucking sense and no matter how many fucking times you repeat this retarded logic it does not magically become true.
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On October 03 2014 04:20 StorrZerg wrote:
See ve, you can't explain why I would be killing HF, because i have 0 motivation. Its clear as day on end of day 3 that HF was not going to be pushing me if Sky flipped town.
And NO ONE can reason why a team of obi + myself is even possible with the death of HF.
BOOM HEAD SHOT
On October 02 2014 23:00 StorrZerg wrote:
mafia kill HF because bats is a dumb town.
Because mafia only need to have 3 votes while 1 town isn't voting. to win. Will holyflare be active end of day to win the game for town? YES will bats do fuck all? who knows.
I think I found someone who can reason why LITERALLY ANYONE could and would kill HF.
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On October 03 2014 04:38 StorrZerg wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2014 04:24 justanothertownie wrote:On October 03 2014 04:20 StorrZerg wrote:
See ve, you can't explain why I would be killing HF, because i have 0 motivation. Its clear as day on end of day 3 that HF was not going to be pushing me if Sky flipped town.
And NO ONE can reason why a team of obi + myself is even possible with the death of HF.
BOOM HEAD SHOT On October 02 2014 23:00 StorrZerg wrote:
mafia kill HF because bats is a dumb town.
Because mafia only need to have 3 votes while 1 town isn't voting. to win. Will holyflare be active end of day to win the game for town? YES will bats do fuck all? who knows. I think I found someone who can reason why LITERALLY ANYONE could and would kill HF. But That reason doesn't work for Both a team of Obi + storr. Because HF is going to tunnel Haru this day.
You have no idea what HF would or wouldn't have done. As I said that reason works for every possible scumteam.
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