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On October 02 2014 08:28 StorrZerg wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2014 08:19 Fecalfeast wrote:
JaT's filter is 90% responding to someone and asking then to elaborate with hardly any posts that take up more than 3 lines without quotes. Seems like a lot of fluff to make himself look like he's trying to solve the game with one-liners.
Super hasn't posted much this day but his posts yesterday looked decent to me. I'd put him in null for now.
What am I supposed to read on VE? The person he replaced was practically full afk and was quite a few people's picks for lynching today if sky flipped green. Now VE is here and posting more than haru did the rest of the game.
JaT and maybe Haru/VE if you're gonna be lame and force me to answer your question but I don't feel confident calling either VE or Super mafia at ths point.
I would prefer to vote Obi over JaT based on filters alone, though.
Why are you and Obi paired together so tightly? It's just based on votes, right? no. logically i don't want to vote obi today. From my point of view, even if obi is mafia. There are 2 mafia within FF, Super, Jat, VE. So even if you think obi is mafia, You have to also think there are two from your point of view within Super, Jat, VE. If obi is town, then there are 3 mafia within the 4.
Okay now watch this:
Logically i don't want to vote VE today. From my point of view, even if VE is mafia.
There are 2 mafia within Storr, Super, Jat, Obi.
So even if you think VE is mafia, You have to also think there are two from your point of view within Super, Jat, Obi.
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On October 02 2014 14:44 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Hey.
hullo
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On October 02 2014 14:47 Fecalfeast wrote:hullo
Alo.
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On October 02 2014 14:35 StorrZerg wrote:
1. At most 1 mafia on palmar. (Being obi )
2. It's not impossible. It was 2 lynches pushed on townies. Mafia doesn't need to care about which lynch happens. Far easier to afk and let it happen or stick with the easier skydragon lynch and be "well he was bad can't falt me for pushing him" rather than explain Palmar incident.
2. Me being upset with bats about my name isn't alignment indicative. Hell I keep moving past it trying to get him focused on the game, answer questions do anything. What does this comment even supposed to do.
Onto your questions
3. I don't have obi as town. How ever, I know 3 towns pushed palmar. Holyflare thought obi was genuine on pushing Palmar, he had him town. In my point of view, I don't see what obi has to gain, killing holyflare. So conclusion yes I think it is more likely it was all town than mafia. That doesn't mean I'm giving him a free pass.
Most of this isn't a read on obi, rather observations of the game involving him, and logically it's better for town to be lynching within the named 4.
4. I dont. Again it's my logic train. I really don't have a solid read on him, and I'm not lynching him, so I don't care about him all that much.
5. The "musings are accusations " specifically the death of GB remarks from haru.
1) From my perspective it could be two, but you're right - if you're town, there are at most 1 on Palmar. I don't know what this has to do with anything.
2) But /why/? That's what I'm asking you, WHY is that more likely to you then mafia wanting to get rid of Palmar at an opportune time? Further, if they did (from your perspective) then why can't you see Obi killing Holyflare there? He's a strong player, whether he's on others' radar or not. Your reasons for ignoring Obi are SO BAD today.
2) I think it is. Like, as town you just ignore stupid shit like people misspelling your name and focus on things that matter. You've corrected him like four times. That's like 3 times too many to be town imo.
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3. I don't have obi as town. How ever, I know 3 towns pushed palmar. Holyflare thought obi was genuine on pushing Palmar, he had him town. In my point of view, I don't see what obi has to gain, killing holyflare. So conclusion yes I think it is more likely it was all town than mafia. That doesn't mean I'm giving him a free pass.
The bolded statements contradict each other. Why are you reticent to call Obi town if you have him as town? If your read on the situation is that "Obi is not mafia" then why do you repeatedly insist that you have no read on Obi and you don't care? And the italicized statement: limiting the lynch to the group of four is absolutely giving him a free pass. That IS what that means - you're disallowing a lynch on Obi, so he gets a free pass. Again, why are you saying you're not giving him a free pass? You're reading him town, you don't want to lynch him, so he has a pass.
4) But you do, as I just illustrated. You gave (bad) reasoning for thinking Obi is town. So why not just say that? Are you just trying to keep your options open? Is Obi town and you want to lynch him later if we end up lynching one of your partners today? That's what this whole wishywashy attitude about Obi looks like to me.
5) But they're not accusations - they musings about mafia motivations without considering possible town motivation. And you don't even consider that he could be town. Like, imagine this: Killing claims cop and ragequits and calls everyone terrible. Haru (town) takes offense WHILE SIMULTANEOUSLY losing his top mafia suspect. YOU CAN'T SEE A TOWN HARU GETTING DEMOTIVATED TO PLAY THE GAME IN THAT SITUATION STORRZERG?!?! It's like you aren't even trying, and that's REALLY weird considering I came into the thread and JIZZED town all over it.
No, you get lynched today Storrzerg. For town victory.
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On October 02 2014 14:46 Fecalfeast wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2014 08:28 StorrZerg wrote:On October 02 2014 08:19 Fecalfeast wrote:
JaT's filter is 90% responding to someone and asking then to elaborate with hardly any posts that take up more than 3 lines without quotes. Seems like a lot of fluff to make himself look like he's trying to solve the game with one-liners.
Super hasn't posted much this day but his posts yesterday looked decent to me. I'd put him in null for now.
What am I supposed to read on VE? The person he replaced was practically full afk and was quite a few people's picks for lynching today if sky flipped green. Now VE is here and posting more than haru did the rest of the game.
JaT and maybe Haru/VE if you're gonna be lame and force me to answer your question but I don't feel confident calling either VE or Super mafia at ths point.
I would prefer to vote Obi over JaT based on filters alone, though.
Why are you and Obi paired together so tightly? It's just based on votes, right? no. logically i don't want to vote obi today. From my point of view, even if obi is mafia. There are 2 mafia within FF, Super, Jat, VE. So even if you think obi is mafia, You have to also think there are two from your point of view within Super, Jat, VE. If obi is town, then there are 3 mafia within the 4. Okay now watch this: Logically i don't want to vote VE today. From my point of view, even if VE is mafia. There are 2 mafia within Storr, Super, Jat, Obi. So even if you think VE is mafia, You have to also think there are two from your point of view within Super, Jat, Obi.
What is the basis of the bolded statement?
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Oh I see what you're doing. Nevermind.
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On October 02 2014 14:54 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2014 14:46 Fecalfeast wrote:On October 02 2014 08:28 StorrZerg wrote:On October 02 2014 08:19 Fecalfeast wrote:
JaT's filter is 90% responding to someone and asking then to elaborate with hardly any posts that take up more than 3 lines without quotes. Seems like a lot of fluff to make himself look like he's trying to solve the game with one-liners.
Super hasn't posted much this day but his posts yesterday looked decent to me. I'd put him in null for now.
What am I supposed to read on VE? The person he replaced was practically full afk and was quite a few people's picks for lynching today if sky flipped green. Now VE is here and posting more than haru did the rest of the game.
JaT and maybe Haru/VE if you're gonna be lame and force me to answer your question but I don't feel confident calling either VE or Super mafia at ths point.
I would prefer to vote Obi over JaT based on filters alone, though.
Why are you and Obi paired together so tightly? It's just based on votes, right? no. logically i don't want to vote obi today. From my point of view, even if obi is mafia. There are 2 mafia within FF, Super, Jat, VE. So even if you think obi is mafia, You have to also think there are two from your point of view within Super, Jat, VE. If obi is town, then there are 3 mafia within the 4. Okay now watch this: Logically i don't want to vote VE today. From my point of view, even if VE is mafia. There are 2 mafia within Storr, Super, Jat, Obi. So even if you think VE is mafia, You have to also think there are two from your point of view within Super, Jat, Obi. What is the basis of the bolded statement?
you don't get it
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Yes I do. I missed a post last page.
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On October 02 2014 14:46 Fecalfeast wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2014 08:28 StorrZerg wrote:On October 02 2014 08:19 Fecalfeast wrote:
JaT's filter is 90% responding to someone and asking then to elaborate with hardly any posts that take up more than 3 lines without quotes. Seems like a lot of fluff to make himself look like he's trying to solve the game with one-liners.
Super hasn't posted much this day but his posts yesterday looked decent to me. I'd put him in null for now.
What am I supposed to read on VE? The person he replaced was practically full afk and was quite a few people's picks for lynching today if sky flipped green. Now VE is here and posting more than haru did the rest of the game.
JaT and maybe Haru/VE if you're gonna be lame and force me to answer your question but I don't feel confident calling either VE or Super mafia at ths point.
I would prefer to vote Obi over JaT based on filters alone, though.
Why are you and Obi paired together so tightly? It's just based on votes, right? no. logically i don't want to vote obi today. From my point of view, even if obi is mafia. There are 2 mafia within FF, Super, Jat, VE. So even if you think obi is mafia, You have to also think there are two from your point of view within Super, Jat, VE. If obi is town, then there are 3 mafia within the 4. Okay now watch this: Logically i don't want to vote VE today. From my point of view, even if VE is mafia. There are 2 mafia within Storr, Super, Jat, Obi. So even if you think VE is mafia, You have to also think there are two from your point of view within Super, Jat, Obi.
However the logic is from the Palmar lynch. Being if you think either me or obi is town, it's in your best interest to look in the group of 4. Since from your view point ff, you have to know , 2 out of the 3 are scum if obi is mafia, or all 3 are scum.
I'm trying to pit you 4 against each other to see who picks what and why.
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On October 02 2014 14:58 StorrZerg wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2014 14:46 Fecalfeast wrote:On October 02 2014 08:28 StorrZerg wrote:On October 02 2014 08:19 Fecalfeast wrote:
JaT's filter is 90% responding to someone and asking then to elaborate with hardly any posts that take up more than 3 lines without quotes. Seems like a lot of fluff to make himself look like he's trying to solve the game with one-liners.
Super hasn't posted much this day but his posts yesterday looked decent to me. I'd put him in null for now.
What am I supposed to read on VE? The person he replaced was practically full afk and was quite a few people's picks for lynching today if sky flipped green. Now VE is here and posting more than haru did the rest of the game.
JaT and maybe Haru/VE if you're gonna be lame and force me to answer your question but I don't feel confident calling either VE or Super mafia at ths point.
I would prefer to vote Obi over JaT based on filters alone, though.
Why are you and Obi paired together so tightly? It's just based on votes, right? no. logically i don't want to vote obi today. From my point of view, even if obi is mafia. There are 2 mafia within FF, Super, Jat, VE. So even if you think obi is mafia, You have to also think there are two from your point of view within Super, Jat, VE. If obi is town, then there are 3 mafia within the 4. Okay now watch this: Logically i don't want to vote VE today. From my point of view, even if VE is mafia. There are 2 mafia within Storr, Super, Jat, Obi. So even if you think VE is mafia, You have to also think there are two from your point of view within Super, Jat, Obi. However the logic is from the Palmar lynch. Being if you think either me or obi is town, it's in your best interest to look in the group of 4. Since from your view point ff, you have to know , 2 out of the 3 are scum if obi is mafia, or all 3 are scum. I'm trying to pit you 4 against each other to see who picks what and why.
No, we're not getting David'd here. We're lynching you. Today.
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So ve you think 1 or 2 mafia pushed palmar
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On October 02 2014 14:58 StorrZerg wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2014 14:46 Fecalfeast wrote:On October 02 2014 08:28 StorrZerg wrote:On October 02 2014 08:19 Fecalfeast wrote:
JaT's filter is 90% responding to someone and asking then to elaborate with hardly any posts that take up more than 3 lines without quotes. Seems like a lot of fluff to make himself look like he's trying to solve the game with one-liners.
Super hasn't posted much this day but his posts yesterday looked decent to me. I'd put him in null for now.
What am I supposed to read on VE? The person he replaced was practically full afk and was quite a few people's picks for lynching today if sky flipped green. Now VE is here and posting more than haru did the rest of the game.
JaT and maybe Haru/VE if you're gonna be lame and force me to answer your question but I don't feel confident calling either VE or Super mafia at ths point.
I would prefer to vote Obi over JaT based on filters alone, though.
Why are you and Obi paired together so tightly? It's just based on votes, right? no. logically i don't want to vote obi today. From my point of view, even if obi is mafia. There are 2 mafia within FF, Super, Jat, VE. So even if you think obi is mafia, You have to also think there are two from your point of view within Super, Jat, VE. If obi is town, then there are 3 mafia within the 4. Okay now watch this: Logically i don't want to vote VE today. From my point of view, even if VE is mafia. There are 2 mafia within Storr, Super, Jat, Obi. So even if you think VE is mafia, You have to also think there are two from your point of view within Super, Jat, Obi. However the logic is from the Palmar lynch. Being if you think either me or obi is town, it's in your best interest to look in the group of 4. Since from your view point ff, you have to know , 2 out of the 3 are scum if obi is mafia, or all 3 are scum. I'm trying to pit you 4 against each other to see who picks what and why.
Explain to me why you and obi are a group because you both voted palmar? What about the palmar vote is so alignment indicative that is basically nullifies you and obi from the conversation?
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Doesn't matter I await your detailed town reads on jat, superbia, ff. As well as at least 1 scum, if not 2 scum reads from those 3.
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On October 02 2014 15:04 Fecalfeast wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2014 14:58 StorrZerg wrote:On October 02 2014 14:46 Fecalfeast wrote:On October 02 2014 08:28 StorrZerg wrote:On October 02 2014 08:19 Fecalfeast wrote:
JaT's filter is 90% responding to someone and asking then to elaborate with hardly any posts that take up more than 3 lines without quotes. Seems like a lot of fluff to make himself look like he's trying to solve the game with one-liners.
Super hasn't posted much this day but his posts yesterday looked decent to me. I'd put him in null for now.
What am I supposed to read on VE? The person he replaced was practically full afk and was quite a few people's picks for lynching today if sky flipped green. Now VE is here and posting more than haru did the rest of the game.
JaT and maybe Haru/VE if you're gonna be lame and force me to answer your question but I don't feel confident calling either VE or Super mafia at ths point.
I would prefer to vote Obi over JaT based on filters alone, though.
Why are you and Obi paired together so tightly? It's just based on votes, right? no. logically i don't want to vote obi today. From my point of view, even if obi is mafia. There are 2 mafia within FF, Super, Jat, VE. So even if you think obi is mafia, You have to also think there are two from your point of view within Super, Jat, VE. If obi is town, then there are 3 mafia within the 4. Okay now watch this: Logically i don't want to vote VE today. From my point of view, even if VE is mafia. There are 2 mafia within Storr, Super, Jat, Obi. So even if you think VE is mafia, You have to also think there are two from your point of view within Super, Jat, Obi. However the logic is from the Palmar lynch. Being if you think either me or obi is town, it's in your best interest to look in the group of 4. Since from your view point ff, you have to know , 2 out of the 3 are scum if obi is mafia, or all 3 are scum. I'm trying to pit you 4 against each other to see who picks what and why. Explain to me why you and obi are a group because you both voted palmar? What about the palmar vote is so alignment indicative that is basically nullifies you and obi from the conversation?
Because I'm town, and I've explained my actions on palmar.
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On October 02 2014 14:26 Fecalfeast wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2014 14:07 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like, that's part of why I want to lynch you. You're being very unreasonable. EVEN IF you are town and think I'm mafia, you're generally reasonable as town. You don't speak TO your scumreads either when you're town, as town you generally know that arguing with scumreads is fruitless so when you post about your scumreads you tend to speak ABOUT them in a general sense as if you're actually speaking to OTHER townies to try and convince them. If you're town then your play is drastically different than I remember it being. I thought the switch onto Palmar made you town, but frankly your play this cycle and JAT's points nullify that for me so I think you're mafia. If you think his town play is drastically different this game and were basing your townread on him on his switch to palmar alone how could you call him confirmed town ever? Seems weird to call someone confirmed town just to call them mafia after they point a finger at you...
I have a clearer picture of his motives now that I've seen him play this cycle. Like, look at how he townreads Haru until it's convenient for him. I couldn't even FIND his case on Haru because there WAS no case. I assumed there was one because he said there was, and when he pointed out what he was calling his case and I read it, that really made me look at his posting this cycle. Look at how he's treating Obi - he refuses to call him town, but gives several reasons WHY he thinks he's town. He's either keeping his options open or he's going for the win WITH Obi THIS cycle - that would explain his nonsensical push on the other 4 players AND his wishywashy attitude about Obi.
Storr was pointing a finger at me long before he voted for me. He was calling me mafia before I even posted (he was reading Haru mafia remember) so I called him confirmed town WHILE he was pointing a finger at me. If you thought YOUR observation was weird, CHEW ON THAT.
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VE mafia, tunnels the easiest person he thinks he can that is town for the win. He doesn't want to be in this mess of a game, i don't blame him.
Town VE, upset sure. I don't think he tunnels this badly though. He seemed to care about figuring out the game, but clearly he doesn't care.
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"Tunnels"? I literally spent most of the game on Obi, now I'm on you. That's literally the opposite of tunnel. Just because I'm now suspicious of you doesn't mean I'm tunneled on you. That's a gross misinterpretation at best and a misrepresentation at worst.
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Also it's funny that you think YOU are the easiest person to lynch this game. What because ONE other person thinks you're mafia? That makes you the easiest lynch? OKAY STORR!
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On October 02 2014 14:07 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like, that's part of why I want to lynch you. You're being very unreasonable. EVEN IF you are town and think I'm mafia, you're generally reasonable as town. You don't speak TO your scumreads either when you're town, as town you generally know that arguing with scumreads is fruitless so when you post about your scumreads you tend to speak ABOUT them in a general sense as if you're actually speaking to OTHER townies to try and convince them. If you're town then your play is drastically different than I remember it being. I thought the switch onto Palmar made you town, but frankly your play this cycle and JAT's points nullify that for me so I think you're mafia.
1. i'm being very reasonable. I want to look at 4 people today, and i want opinions on those 4 people. I'm trying to drive town in a productive discussion on the game.
2. sure i do, i'm doing it now. I don't know if you are scum. You happen to be online and are chatty. I'm trying to figure out your alignment, yet i'm being stone walled by your persistence that 1 or both obi has to be mafia, when it is impossible we are both mafia.
3. arguing with people you are very sure about as scum is pointless. If i was sure you happened to be scum, i'd be pressuring other people to read you. Instead, i'm asking people to look at it within the group of 4, and name their scum pairs. Because i want people to generate information, i want to figure this game out. You are avoiding progression of the game.
4, congratulations, my play is "different" than my other "town games" i'm sorry, what exactly is so odd and different from my town play, vs the passive meh mafia play i had last game?
5. The palmar swtich confirms me as town.
6. Trying to logically deduce my options to figuring out the game is poor? It is poor to get everyone on the same page, to lynch a correct mafia, by eliminating options? I deeply apologize for trying to figure the game out. For giving you room to respond to my questions.
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On October 02 2014 15:57 VisceraEyes wrote:
Also it's funny that you think YOU are the easiest person to lynch this game. What because ONE other person thinks you're mafia? That makes you the easiest lynch? OKAY STORR!
in your eyes maybe.
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