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StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
October 02 2014 02:53 GMT
#2501
On October 02 2014 11:32 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm not lashing back about anything. I said you're being unreasonable. How is that in any way "lashing back"? LOL

Someone's a little jumpy. <3



sell me on why FF, Jat, super are better than you for today
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
October 02 2014 02:57 GMT
#2502
On October 02 2014 11:36 StorrZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2014 11:32 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm not lashing back about anything. I said you're being unreasonable. How is that in any way "lashing back"? LOL

Someone's a little jumpy. <3


Well, you counter voted me for seemingly no reason when you have a town read on me. You think a lot of what i am saying is mumbo jumbo. So when i vote you, i find it odd that your reaction is to counter vote, and not to call me silly.

I didn't call you silly, I called you jumpy. You're putting words in my mouth like a BOSS tonight!
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
October 02 2014 03:01 GMT
#2503
On October 02 2014 11:53 StorrZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2014 11:32 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm not lashing back about anything. I said you're being unreasonable. How is that in any way "lashing back"? LOL

Someone's a little jumpy. <3



sell me on why FF, Jat, super are better than you for today

Because I'm in here trying to figure out the game. I don't know or care what you wrote on Haru because I'm not Haru and I can't speak for Haru's motivation. Your case is bad because I'm town, and that's pretty much all there is to it. I've given reasoning for why I think it's Obi. You don't think it's good or whatever, but that doesn't make me scum, and you KNOW that. So yes, while I say I think you're town, I'm perfectly happy with where my vote is because you're literally mafia-siding voting for VE. And I'm fallible, so you COULD be scum. JAT raises good points on why mafia might prefer to lynch Palmar over Sky, and you DID come in and push your heart out for a Palmar lynch RIGHT as he went AFK. So don't tell ME to sell YOU on why I'm not a good lynch. How about YOU sell ME on why YOU aren't a good lynch sir?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
October 02 2014 03:02 GMT
#2504
On October 02 2014 09:51 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2014 07:43 StorrZerg wrote:
On October 02 2014 02:41 VisceraEyes wrote:
On October 02 2014 02:38 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On October 02 2014 02:35 VisceraEyes wrote:
On October 02 2014 02:35 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Your case boils down to me switching without initially voting Sky.

If I voted Sky beforehand you wouldn't have said shit.

Maybe, but you didn't.

Further, in spite of Sky being a SUPER HARD TOWNREAD, you were the LAST on his wagon yesterday.

Get rektum scum. <3


Explain how me being last on his wagon yesterday is bad.

Because you JUST claimed (indignantly) that "if you'd read the thread you'd know that Sky has been my top mafia read all game"....if that's the case then why weren't you in here HARD pushing him ALL DAY? Why wasn't your vote INSTANTLY on Sky yesterday? TOWNIES who have hard mafia reads VOTE on them. MAFIA who have "hard mafia reads" want to see if the wagon is going to take off before voting.


Obi being late or early doesn't matter.

Day 3 was very tunneled. Skydragon was the lynch and no one was seriously considering not lynching him. So I don't think your theory holds weight. If sd hadn't been so dammed to his fate, I think that theory looks good.

Yeah I'm not listening to you anymore. You're just talking nonsense, and even though I think you're town, I feel like you're trying to win the game for Mafia. Vote Obi plz.


My bad the correct phrase is "talking nonsense"
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
October 02 2014 03:04 GMT
#2505
On October 02 2014 12:01 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2014 11:53 StorrZerg wrote:
On October 02 2014 11:32 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm not lashing back about anything. I said you're being unreasonable. How is that in any way "lashing back"? LOL

Someone's a little jumpy. <3



sell me on why FF, Jat, super are better than you for today

Because I'm in here trying to figure out the game. I don't know or care what you wrote on Haru because I'm not Haru and I can't speak for Haru's motivation. Your case is bad because I'm town, and that's pretty much all there is to it. I've given reasoning for why I think it's Obi. You don't think it's good or whatever, but that doesn't make me scum, and you KNOW that. So yes, while I say I think you're town, I'm perfectly happy with where my vote is because you're literally mafia-siding voting for VE. And I'm fallible, so you COULD be scum. JAT raises good points on why mafia might prefer to lynch Palmar over Sky, and you DID come in and push your heart out for a Palmar lynch RIGHT as he went AFK. So don't tell ME to sell YOU on why I'm not a good lynch. How about YOU sell ME on why YOU aren't a good lynch sir?



I all ready defended myself on why i pushed palmar. If you don't know why read my filter on that day. Judge off that.

you are contradicting yourself by leaving the vote on me. you should be spending your time trying to convince me and others as to why the lynch should be ff, jat, super.
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
October 02 2014 03:31 GMT
#2506
I think its pretty interesting that jat, super, ff, obi, have not placed votes. Kinda hard to see where they all stand....

Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
October 02 2014 04:28 GMT
#2507
On October 02 2014 12:31 StorrZerg wrote:
I think its pretty interesting that jat, super, ff, obi, have not placed votes. Kinda hard to see where they all stand....


Yeah, that's true.

Whatever, I'm not doing it tonight, but I'll look at the the group of 4 tomorrow. Are you happy?

##Unvote

It's probably better this way anyway since I'm in it and I'm like obviously town. EVEN IF Obi and Storr are both mafia, there's still one left in the group of four.

Attention all townies! It is VERY IMPORTANT that you make your reads and reasonings known in this thread. Even if you think you've already done it, not everyone is going back and reading like they should (as with EVERY game EVER). If you want to help town win, then make your stances known in the thread and in the voting thead so we can make a good decision today. Thank you in advance for your cooperation, and you are quite welcome for mine.
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
October 02 2014 04:56 GMT
#2508
No, I'm voting Storrzerg. I think we have a better shot at lynching Storr than Obi for SOME unfathomable reason, and I think the Palmar lynch had mafia motivation. If I believe that then one or both of Obi/Storr have to be mafia. A full town wagon doesn't just appear in the waning hours of a day. It just doesn't happen. There are three mafia, it's inconceivable that town was in such a position that all the active town players simultaneously came to a consensus to move from one townie to another townie successfully. Mafia are in there.

Like, Storrzerg is just flailing around right now. Getting shitty at Bats about calling him Store? Are you for real? DISRUPTIVE? LMAO That's utter nonsense. Who the shit cares what he calls him? It's not like he's calling him Douchebag or something offensive. He's literally just throwing shit around to see what sticks.

@Storr
If you want me to remove my vote, then answer the following questions as thoroughly as you can.

1) Why is it more likely to you that there are zero mafia on the Palmar wagon than it is that there is one?
2) Why do you have a townread on Obi, such that you've been literally commanding me to vote for someone outside the Palmar wagon?
3) Why are you calling this + Show Spoiler +
On September 30 2014 05:47 StorrZerg wrote:
comments in blue


Show nested quote +
On September 27 2014 22:33 HaruRH wrote:
On September 27 2014 09:56 Holyflare wrote:
FecalFeast: Superbia
Skydragon:: Killing, StorrZerg, Hopeless1der
Hopeless1der:: Palmar, Holyflare, batsnacks, skydragon, fecalfeast, justanothertownie. ObiWanShinobi
superbia:: HaruRH
Killing:: Glowingbear



Alright, this vote count is more accurate than yamato's final vote count.

I am going to make some assumptions here:

1) You just have to accept that I am town.
2) Almost all wolf were on hopeless. It is NOT possible that all the wolf were superbia,killing storrZerg. However, there certainly is 1 or 2 wolf amongst these 3.

States most wolves would be on hopeless, yet thinks a possible 2 within 3 people. feels odd to think this way from a town perspective.

2 wolfies between:
Palmar, Holyflare, batsnacks, skydragon, fecalfeast, justanothertownie.

1 wolf between: Killing, storrZerg, superbia.

We now have it restated that we only have 1 wolf now between these 3. When earlier it could have been 2. I think this comes from a mafia perspective, trying to force out what should be correct, while avoiding "reading" people.

I distributed my wolfreads as such because 1) mafia always try to vote on the largest wagon to not feel left out. 2)at least/most 1 mafia would split off and vote some random player.

I am very certain that glowingbear was killed because he was right. There was no way they killed him for the lulz when there is HF,palmar, jat etc as town. He is also not overwhelmingly town. In fact, he smelt scum to me for a while.

The assurance that GB was right. Yet only talking about the mafia reads on gb. Not the town reads. This seems like forced information about the dead. Directed, specific. I find it interesting that he lists off townies as HF palmar jat as "town"what chance did any of these 3 have to die in the night for n1? holy pushed a wrong lynch very hard, palmar we now know is town, jat wasn't super active, nor did he push a correct direction. So why did any of these 3 mean anything more than GB from haru's perspective.

His wolf reads were: killing, storrzerg, batsnacks
This is very interesting, i think we now know why GB was killed. All his mafia reads are wrong. Killing was cop, bats has been green checked, and i'm town. GB was clearly not on the right track, he was not killed because of how well he was scum hunting. He was killed for how off track he was, and how town he looked.
I am going to say that i too think killing was wolf. Not superbia.

I am also going to say that HF is maybe town. But i still need to see what he is going to do.

Therefore, my lynchlist for d2 is(in order of scumminess):
Killing
batsnacks
skydragon


I'm really not sure why haru has been leaving me out so much. Have i been avoiding haru? yes, defending on policy sure. logically i should be in here. Even on day 3, haru keeps "forgetting about me"

I am still unsure of skydragon and less unsure of batsnacks, but i am quite sure of killing. Lets lynch him. It will reveal tons of info too even if he flip town.

What would we have learned at this point if he flips town? At this point in time, he had been fairly low key, had pointed out quite a few town reads, had a few mafia reads. As a town, if i had stated something like this, wouldn't it also be important to let others know what we would learn? there is no follow up to this, even though he wasn't lynched, he did die in the night, he did have reads, yet haru doesn't follow up or give input to what we should have learned.







as soon as we have claim from Killing, haru falls off terribly on day 2. checks out of the game. all motivation stops to lynch killing, and provides no input as to how the day should go.

a case? It's literally just you musing "meh this kinda looks mafia" in blue over and over without considering that he might be town posting the exact same thing. Unless you're talking about the end line, which paraphrased reads "haru lurked after Killing claimed" - in which case, why are you saying your case is more than that?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
October 02 2014 05:01 GMT
#2509
Just when you come around you go nuts....

I'll respond in a minute or so.
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
October 02 2014 05:02 GMT
#2510
I'm not going nuts, look more carefully, I'm being very rational and reasonable. You're the one throwing around hyperbole and negative language.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
October 02 2014 05:07 GMT
#2511
Like, that's part of why I want to lynch you. You're being very unreasonable. EVEN IF you are town and think I'm mafia, you're generally reasonable as town. You don't speak TO your scumreads either when you're town, as town you generally know that arguing with scumreads is fruitless so when you post about your scumreads you tend to speak ABOUT them in a general sense as if you're actually speaking to OTHER townies to try and convince them. If you're town then your play is drastically different than I remember it being. I thought the switch onto Palmar made you town, but frankly your play this cycle and JAT's points nullify that for me so I think you're mafia.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
October 02 2014 05:26 GMT
#2512
On October 02 2014 14:07 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like, that's part of why I want to lynch you. You're being very unreasonable. EVEN IF you are town and think I'm mafia, you're generally reasonable as town. You don't speak TO your scumreads either when you're town, as town you generally know that arguing with scumreads is fruitless so when you post about your scumreads you tend to speak ABOUT them in a general sense as if you're actually speaking to OTHER townies to try and convince them. If you're town then your play is drastically different than I remember it being. I thought the switch onto Palmar made you town, but frankly your play this cycle and JAT's points nullify that for me so I think you're mafia.

If you think his town play is drastically different this game and were basing your townread on him on his switch to palmar alone how could you call him confirmed town ever? Seems weird to call someone confirmed town just to call them mafia after they point a finger at you...
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
October 02 2014 05:35 GMT
#2513
1. At most 1 mafia on palmar. (Being obi )

2. It's not impossible. It was 2 lynches pushed on townies. Mafia doesn't need to care about which lynch happens. Far easier to afk and let it happen or stick with the easier skydragon lynch and be "well he was bad can't falt me for pushing him" rather than explain Palmar incident.

2. Me being upset with bats about my name isn't alignment indicative. Hell I keep moving past it trying to get him focused on the game, answer questions do anything. What does this comment even supposed to do.

Onto your questions
3. I don't have obi as town. How ever, I know 3 towns pushed palmar. Holyflare thought obi was genuine on pushing Palmar, he had him town. In my point of view, I don't see what obi has to gain, killing holyflare. So conclusion yes I think it is more likely it was all town than mafia. That doesn't mean I'm giving him a free pass.

Most of this isn't a read on obi, rather observations of the game involving him, and logically it's better for town to be lynching within the named 4.

4. I dont. Again it's my logic train. I really don't have a solid read on him, and I'm not lynching him, so I don't care about him all that much.

5. The "musings are accusations " specifically the death of GB remarks from haru.
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
October 02 2014 05:35 GMT
#2514
I think if we are voting between obi and storr that obi is the better pick just based on effort put in.


Storr:
I went back and read your reasoning on not looking at obi tonight + Show Spoiler +
On October 02 2014 08:28 StorrZerg wrote:

On October 02 2014 08:19 Fecalfeast wrote:
JaT's filter is 90% responding to someone and asking then to elaborate with hardly any posts that take up more than 3 lines without quotes. Seems like a lot of fluff to make himself look like he's trying to solve the game with one-liners.

Super hasn't posted much this day but his posts yesterday looked decent to me. I'd put him in null for now.

What am I supposed to read on VE? The person he replaced was practically full afk and was quite a few people's picks for lynching today if sky flipped green. Now VE is here and posting more than haru did the rest of the game.

JaT and maybe Haru/VE if you're gonna be lame and force me to answer your question but I don't feel confident calling either VE or Super mafia at ths point.

I would prefer to vote Obi over JaT based on filters alone, though.

Why are you and Obi paired together so tightly? It's just based on votes, right?

no. logically i don't want to vote obi today. From my point of view, even if obi is mafia.

There are 2 mafia within FF, Super, Jat, VE.

So even if you think obi is mafia, You have to also think there are two from your point of view within Super, Jat, VE.

If obi is town, then there are 3 mafia within the 4.

and it's really doesn't make sense to me. You basically say "Well from my point of view I'm town and obi might be mafia OR town so there are at least 2 mafia in the rest of people so ignore obi for now"
That works with anyone in the game replace obi with anyone else alive in the game and your 'logic' works.

How did I let that slide before?
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
October 02 2014 05:37 GMT
#2515
haha what is that spoiler doing there
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
October 02 2014 05:38 GMT
#2516
On October 02 2014 14:02 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm not going nuts, look more carefully, I'm being very rational and reasonable. You're the one throwing around hyperbole and negative language.



Claim you will look into the 4, then you don't and go back to pushing me.
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
October 02 2014 05:38 GMT
#2517
On October 02 2014 14:35 Fecalfeast wrote:
I think if we are voting between obi and storr that obi is the better pick just based on effort put in.


Storr:
I went back and read your reasoning on not looking at obi tonight
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2014 08:28 StorrZerg wrote:
On October 02 2014 08:19 Fecalfeast wrote:
JaT's filter is 90% responding to someone and asking then to elaborate with hardly any posts that take up more than 3 lines without quotes. Seems like a lot of fluff to make himself look like he's trying to solve the game with one-liners.

Super hasn't posted much this day but his posts yesterday looked decent to me. I'd put him in null for now.

What am I supposed to read on VE? The person he replaced was practically full afk and was quite a few people's picks for lynching today if sky flipped green. Now VE is here and posting more than haru did the rest of the game.

JaT and maybe Haru/VE if you're gonna be lame and force me to answer your question but I don't feel confident calling either VE or Super mafia at ths point.

I would prefer to vote Obi over JaT based on filters alone, though.

Why are you and Obi paired together so tightly? It's just based on votes, right?


no. logically i don't want to vote obi today. From my point of view, even if obi is mafia.

There are 2 mafia within FF, Super, Jat, VE.

So even if you think obi is mafia, You have to also think there are two from your point of view within Super, Jat, VE.

If obi is town, then there are 3 mafia within the 4.

and it's really doesn't make sense to me. You basically say "Well from my point of view I'm town and obi might be mafia OR town so there are at least 2 mafia in the rest of people so ignore obi for now"
That works with anyone in the game replace obi with anyone else alive in the game and your 'logic' works.

How did I let that slide before?

this is how the post should have looked
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
October 02 2014 05:41 GMT
#2518
On October 02 2014 14:07 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like, that's part of why I want to lynch you. You're being very unreasonable. EVEN IF you are town and think I'm mafia, you're generally reasonable as town. You don't speak TO your scumreads either when you're town, as town you generally know that arguing with scumreads is fruitless so when you post about your scumreads you tend to speak ABOUT them in a general sense as if you're actually speaking to OTHER townies to try and convince them. If you're town then your play is drastically different than I remember it being. I thought the switch onto Palmar made you town, but frankly your play this cycle and JAT's points nullify that for me so I think you're mafia.


Meh
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StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
October 02 2014 05:43 GMT
#2519
@ff what are you talking about. Give me an example of what you mean, where my logic is wrong
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
October 02 2014 05:44 GMT
#2520
Hey.
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