Devil's Riddle Mafia

On September 20 2014 22:09 DarthPunk wrote:
/in

On September 24 2014 15:52 Grackaroni wrote:
I think I want to lynch Oatsmaster now.

Geript said this:
No I'm not trying to be useful at all. I just want to be able to fucking read my filter without having to scroll back through the first 4-6 pages to figure out what the pairs are. Yes, you guys get to see it to. I don't care.

On September 24 2014 12:45 DarthPunk wrote:
Hi i'm back.

I don't think Geript looks scummy at all.


From skimming the thread it seems like hapa could very well be mafia, I have a few reasons for this, some of it is dated meta but he is just not behaving in the same way that I would expect him too as town.

I also think that this post is pretty off.




Like I would expect hapa to question yamato about this read. try and figure out why the fuck Yamato 'incorrectly' thinks he is mafia. But he says nothing and then starts making big posts about geript being scum. He ignores the pressure and switches the thread onto another lynch target.

Despite some token questioning hapa doesn't seem as invested in figuring shit out as I would expect. Not questioning yamato on his scum read of hapa is really fucking weird and his meta doesn't match what I expect from him as town.

Further, Hapa in the past has almost ALWAYS pressured me hard at the start of games in order to determine my alignment. This game, I posted some stuff that should have looked pretty bad. But Hapa just ignored it after I provided some token excuses and does not move to question or pressure me to the extent I would expect or have experienced in the past.

Which further reinforced my doubts on hapa's investment in figuring shit out.

On September 24 2014 17:46 DarthPunk wrote:
That is literally the worst case I have ever seen oats make.

On September 24 2014 18:54 DarthPunk wrote:


I didn't tip toe around the hapa read I was very clear about it. I thought he was scum. I don't want to lynch him day one. Easy.


As for hapa's case being bad... well It was. He had one good point about geript's list showing he read the thread. Which was a response to me saying that he didn't seem to be reading the thread or something, That is about it.

He had one good point about geript's list showing he read the thread.

Also his case had two points, both of which were bad. that makes his case... bad.

On September 25 2014 09:04 geript wrote:

And the reasons you've townread Oats are fucking ridiculous. You can't say he's particularly out there. I don't have a townread on him and I have a rather good track record of reading him correctly. He hasn't been particularly in your face and, while he is to some extent doing his own thing (which is semi-towny for him), he's not particularly cared about any of his pushes (which is far more of his scum play). So yah, giving Oats a free pass is very odd.

On September 24 2014 16:00 Grackaroni wrote:

nah there's still the Oats/Damdred group left out

##Vote: Oatsmaster

On September 25 2014 11:23 geript wrote:
@Hapa/Yam/VE/Prom
What do you guys make of Oats/Damdred having no opinion of each other. It seems like most everyone active has a specific read on their partner. But like Damdred has mostly been bitching about me thinking his pairing is a good flip despite explaining it multiple times while saying/thinking nothing about his partner and Oats is mia on any actual intelligent issue.

On September 25 2014 17:40 Chairman Ray wrote:
As I said, I am not going to start helping town if you are forcing me to help town or die. I'm more of a braveheart type of guy where you can take my life, but you cannot take my freedom.

But you do realize that lynching me is hurting town right? Town gains nothing from it, and you even lose a lynch. That's a pretty big detriment to town. So why are you doing this?

On September 25 2014 19:35 DarthPunk wrote:


Yeah same. But we should just lynch him tomorrow if he doesn't suicide.

On September 25 2014 20:10 Chairman Ray wrote:


Sorry Oats. I was kind of irritated at geript and sort of spoke out of spite.

On September 25 2014 19:55 DarthPunk wrote:
WHERE DID YOU GO OATS?| SO FRUSTRATING.

On September 25 2014 20:29 DarthPunk wrote:


Im not ignoring Vayne. I talk to him in my QT with him and from that have no reason to want to lynch him today.

As for Damdred. Not seeming to do anything much and not seeming to be scummy IS SCUMMY. that is like the definition of the niche that scum like to fill.

On September 25 2014 21:10 DarthPunk wrote:


I'm not going to tell you what makes me not interested in lynching vayne because:

a.) vayne shoul have the opportunity to do it himself and;

b.) I have no faith in this town to even do the right thing about it if he DOES tell you all.

As for damdred, if it is so easy to read it is even easier for you to outline Exactly what you agreed with damdred about.

And telling me is objectively pro-town so if you are town you should do so.

On September 25 2014 21:14 DarthPunk wrote:


Jesus fucking christ oats read between the lines a little. You are better than this.

On September 25 2014 21:17 DarthPunk wrote:


I thought hapa looked bad and VE looked good.

Hapa proceeded to look better and VE proceeded to look worse.

Hapa's meta case was worthless IMO as there is meta which contradicts his conclusions.

So both are question marks basically.

I wouldn't want to lynch either of them till later in the game though.

Why is geript scum bro?

On September 25 2014 21:18 DarthPunk wrote:


I'm not sure why it would be, care to elaborate?

On September 25 2014 21:28 DarthPunk wrote:


He told me his role. And, it is fairly verifiable if handled correctly.

On September 25 2014 21:40 DarthPunk wrote:


I always answer people even when the questions have already been answered. I expect the same.

Also in no way does my partner claiming make me more likely to be scum. Explain that logic please.

On September 26 2014 01:03 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
vote oats i think, he's going on a weird lets lynch everyone tangent.

On September 26 2014 01:46 Grackaroni wrote:

I think I still want to lynch Oats

On September 26 2014 07:57 VayneAuthority wrote:
sorry been busy with work but plenty of capable town here at any rate. Two most interesting things with this lynch for me is oats voting for VE last second with no explanation and grack voting right around dead middle of the voting pack on the VE wagon. When I played scum with him he liked to be on the correct wagons as early as possible to garner cred. Combine that with the fact that kush's vote is on something random.

I think the double scum pair is between oats/damdred and grack/kush, but open to other opinions. We need to go through and starting lynching 1 person from each pair pretty much.

On September 26 2014 19:05 Promethelax wrote:


If you prove worth listening to people will listen to you, that is how it works in everything. This site has a tone of talent when it comes to mafia and so we often ignore newer payers who are less talented. That isn't the best way to be I agree but it is how we are. If you want us to listin to you say something worth listening to instead of bitching about how we view you.

On September 27 2014 17:30 Promethelax wrote:
People who would shoot me in this game:

Oats
Yamato
DP
Kush

People I have histories with who I have expressed town reads of, no one else makes sense because I really haven't been playing terribly well or done anything very interesting.

On September 27 2014 18:23 Promethelax wrote:


Hey little donkey. You buddy me as town. You don't as scum. That is what I meant by avoid. I'm clearly town and not 3p (unless geript and i are in cahoots) stop wasting your time.

Who do you think is scum? We'll deal with 3p after scum is dead.

On September 27 2014 18:22 geript wrote:

I thought defender could only die if he's lynched or martyrs.

And I will not push a weak scum read at that point in the game

it would clear Oats in our QT as i'm town

On September 28 2014 00:24 Damdred wrote:
Nothing I do impresses or makes anyone look at me favorably, i'm just going to be called terrible town at the end of the game and its depressing. I could probably nail all mafia while juggling chainsaws and reciting Shakespeare and people in the thread would say i'm not doing anything well.

On September 28 2014 12:39 geript wrote:
I took a gander again at VE's filter. I think I'm good at getting in VE's mindset.

I'm pretty sure that he wanted to keep Kush and Grack as potential lynchbait. And he wanted to buddy Damdred and MM1.
It sounds odd but I think if Oats were town VE would've argued with anybody townreading him. The problem though is that he treats Vayne similarly. Oats generally isn't that hard to push a mislynch on in my experience.

I really kinda think it's just Oats now.

On September 28 2014 14:51 kushm4sta wrote:


Uh huh. So wouldn't that be a reason for you to do precisely that?

On September 28 2014 17:46 kushm4sta wrote:


well don't pretend like it couldn't have happened by mistake. and now you are capitalizing on it with this argument.

On September 29 2014 12:23 Grackaroni wrote:
Honestly Oats it was a good play. It confirmed a townie and we aren't going to lose. It's pretty much has to be Me/Yamato or Damdred at this point and I doubt it's Damdred just from CR's statements

On September 29 2014 12:24 Damdred wrote:
....you do not see the issue i'm having with a fake tracker claim and the mafia just gives up? I've been down this road before in storm mafia 2

On September 29 2014 20:50 DarthPunk wrote:

Yep. But I don't REQUIRE town to lose like mafia do.

Also town is incredibly INCREDIBLY far ahead so that isn't really a realistic scenario.

Town lynches last scum we all win and go home.