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Good luck to you guys though~ | ||
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<3 DP, don't hate me pls. | ||
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Hence why you're a hypocrite <3. I still think lynching loaf on D1 would have been the best option, because him being alive at the end totally ruined everything. At least for me. Also as I recall, Barakos was the one who did the actual hunting in obs qt. Anyways, I don't really care, I just think you're batcrap arrogant, and from all the games I've seen/read up on you, i was not impressed the least, not nearly as I was with some other players here. Cheers bro~ Just to be clear - I think I'm not good. I just don't think you are good either. | ||
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On October 15 2014 16:55 abuse wrote: Hence why you're a hypocrite <3. I still think lynching loaf on D1 would have been the best option, because him being alive at the end totally ruined everything. At least for me. Also as I recall, Barakos was the one who did the actual hunting in obs qt. Anyways, I don't really care, I just think you're batcrap arrogant, and from all the games I've seen/read up on you, i was not impressed the least, not nearly as I was with some other players here. Cheers bro~ Just to be clear - I think I'm not good. I just don't think you are good either. on the bolded : Re-read and confirmed. Barakos was the one who called FF scum for example, you just agreed after asking why he thinks so. Then you said rad and me were scum, and were only right on rad,while I was your prime suspect really. If you were in the game you would have mislynched. While Barakos said I wasn't scum. Barakos read things much much much better than you did. Hence why I'm saying you are not as good as you think you are. | ||
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On October 15 2014 16:59 raynpelikoneet wrote: That's not really how the game works. While i understand your point all of you townies missed the most obvious scumpost on D1. I think the townies were too tunneled into one of Zen/Breskhe being mafia on D1 and when Breskhe picked up his posting you all completely forgot what actually happened at the EOD1. When something changes (lynch, nightkills, someone being scummy starts to towntell) you must go back and see where you went wrong. Look at the whole game with "new eyes", not only the game after the said event. That's where i think the town went wrong. Yup. as I said, I do not see the stuff that is obvious to a player like you, hence why I do not think I am good for mafia games. I did put a lot of effort in this game, wrote pretty much everything down, but the way i perceive the stuff presented is wrong and I focus on the wrong things. If we would've lynched the useless tracker at D1 though, we would have had a much better town atmosphere imo, and I would stick with my Rad scumread at the end. + Zen had good reads, so he could've helped a ton during the game. | ||
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On October 15 2014 17:13 DarthPunk wrote: How many games have you played with me to make this assessment. Right, 1 in which I was third party. Come back and talk shit when you don't get end gamed without lynching a scum in a newbie game. I've seen enough of your play. Not in just that 1 game. And I can call you shit whenever I want really. Anyway, let's just stop this now. You won't change my mind, and obviously you think pretty much everyone else other than you is trash in everything so I won't change your mind either. Plus I don't care really because I won't be playing mafia anymore, because I can admit that I'm bad at this and think in a different way that is not good in such a game. Yet you are.. well.. you. | ||
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don't try to make cases after the game on a game you have not actually read properly. I had my reasons for thinking rad was more townie at D2 than at D1. Also, the "case" on me you put in spoiler tags before, is trash. You should re-read it yourself. You say I had no reason whatsoever to push loaf, yet later you yourself see that it was to get information in a game where absolutely nothing was going on for 15 hours, and you are still not satisfied. You say I was unhelpful, superbia says it was helpful to him. And it was helpful to me. Stop trying to plow your shit over everything. And stop blaming other people for your wrong reads -- "Abuse you are so trash that I read you as scum". Your arrogance is disgusting. | ||
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On October 15 2014 17:32 Barakos wrote: Only one I actually read better than DP did, was you and this also only, because I played a very similar newbie-game with you already, where you pushed someone else, who you thought was town but not helping, so i saw the similarities... From DPs PoV you looked like someone trying to push a lynch on a townie, who half-confirmed himself by being way too excited about insta-winning the game as town (unless he did some genius acting, which is unlikely in a newbie-game... you remember daydreamarine? boy did that guy give me headaches in our game...^^), which just doesn't seem right, so his read on you was understandable. I also don't agree on you saying the best play was to lynch loaf... he is basically confirmed town, so he is mafias problem, cause mafia doesn't want to go into lylo vs a confirmed town. I think the correct way to deal with loaf was to confirm him for yourself as town and either let mafia kill him or look at other peoples interactions with him, if he doesn't get killed... the people he pushes on are most likely town, since he is still alive as confirmed town. The people, who buddy up with him, or are most concerned about his opinion on them, or try to influence his opinion on others, are most likely scum. This way you either get some valuable information out of him, or the problem is dealt with for you by mafia... and - most importantly - you don't waste one of your misslynches on town. Loaf might have been confirmed town to you and DP but he wasn't confirmed town to anyone in the game. He was a coinflip and a nuisance to everyone's reads. Also it does not make sense - "you should have confirmed him as town for yourself" because I did not see him as town, and in that view, keeping him alive and not seeing him die, just proves he is scum, and that makes his reads useless. And don't even get me started on what his reads were. | ||
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On October 15 2014 17:37 DarthPunk wrote: LOL. K. Talking to you is clearly a waste of time. Keeping thinking whatever you want babe. Clearly. | ||
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On October 15 2014 17:45 DarthPunk wrote: Wait, You got mislynched at MYLO and are shit talking me for calling you mafia along with the two ACTUAL mafia after reading one day of a game i'm not even playing in? SERIOUSLY? ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/QO3OPvO.gif) Read the game before you talk shit. I have told you this before, and I thought you were dropping this because this is a waste of time. | ||
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On October 15 2014 17:29 DarthPunk wrote: it was wishy-washy and was actually the way that I would expect mafia to treat another mafia. Yeah really don't know what the fuck you are talking about rayn. And now you just forget all that and just focus on that one post, because obviously you were right . Facepalm. | ||
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On October 15 2014 17:53 raynpelikoneet wrote: Guys stop it already. abuse you clearly did something wrong considering you got lynched as town AND considering the other wagon in LYLO was ALSO town. DP is a good player. He is not always right (like noone is) so you should take some advice in what he is saying. Although he is presenting his stuff in an arrogant way that does not mean he is completely wrong. You really did misjudge loafery and Rad very heavily at the start of the game. Instead of arguing with DP how good/bad you were try to instead learn from the insight he gives. Even if he is wrong -- regarding your alignment -- you'll have to notice townies CAN think you are mafia for something you did. Why? what should you do differently next time in order to avoid it? That's the point of post-game discussion in newbie games, not to flame the shit out of people who misread you in obs QT. Same goes to DP, you are not really helping abuse... Thanks for this. I really do appreciate what you were saying, sadly DP is not somebody I could ever look up to or take seriously even. I am shit-talking now because I really do not care anymore, and will not be playing any more games. This is just a parting gift to DP really, because I don't like him. | ||
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On October 15 2014 17:57 Barakos wrote: I can name you 3 games in which a town did this... 1. Disney Princes Newbie Mini Mafia - Daydreamarine, who didn't know anything about mafia and rules/roles 2. Los Alamos Newbie Mini Mafia - loafery 3. Avogadros Number Mafia - Oatsmaster, who didn't read the setup properly and got into an arguement with me about it, before I had to drop out and flipped town D1 Reasoning behind this is, that as mafia, you care about setups and basic rules, since you need the knowledge to fakeclaim and use it to your advantage. So seeing that this is a newbie-game, you can quite safely assume, that not knowing the rules is kind of a town-trait... arguing about them or even claiming a free-win based on false understanding of the rules is an almost guaranteed town, especially if you get over your "omg, that guy sucks so bad, let's kill him"-reflexes and try to read his posts with the mindset of a newbie posting them... I wouldn't necessarily apply this logic to every veteran-game her on this site and I am pretty sure, I will at some point run into somebody, who fools me with some acting, but it sure holds up for me for now. Also note, that this is something different, than what rad (i think) did, when he started argueing about the notifications blocked / jailed people would get, since this is much more in-depth and not explained properly in the role-descriptions. Wow, a post that actually does not make me cringe. You are wrong though. the fact that this is a newbie game, is exactly why you can quite safely assume that not knowing the rules does not mean shit. That is what a newbie is. Your assumption is based, that everyone in the game has decent common sense, which is not something you can take for granted in a newbie game. The first hours of a newbie game, you have no idea how good/bad/logical the people are. And I still find it funny, that you say "if you get over your "omg that guy sucks so bad, lets kill him" reflexes, considering you said this in avogadro's mini mafia. On October 12 2014 08:58 DarthPunk wrote: GlowingBear, What if I said that I would 100% lynch a shit posting townie day one even if I knew he was town. | ||
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On October 15 2014 17:58 raynpelikoneet wrote: dude can you understand that post happened A DAY after the initial connection??? let me spell it out to you: Oct 7th: Rad makes the scummy post (1) Oct 7th: abuse calls loaf out Oct 7th: abuse pushes loaf Oct 8th: abuse calls Rad "null/scum". Still he calls the observations Rad made a day before good -> townie!!! (see the (1) -> timeline) Like wtf? There is no way abuse did read Rad scum at the time he pushed loaf. Read the whole post and put the things onto a timeline. abuse did NOT scumread Rad at the time he pushed loafery! am i correct abuse? that is a safe assumption, yes, when I was pushing loaf, I was just pushing loaf. I was planning to look into other people's responses for the push to get their alignments. | ||
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On October 15 2014 17:58 DarthPunk wrote: Because you know me so well and have played so often with me. Wait.. No you haven't. You are coming from a place of ignorance. But you are being hilarious so feel free to continue babe. I have more gif's to post :D Wrong assumption. Again. I have looked at quite enough of games/QT's of you being in them. see, if you weren't so arrogant you would have actually considered that option. | ||
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On October 15 2014 18:06 DarthPunk wrote: Anyway i'm done with you Abuse, You should go play some games on OMGUS. probably more your level. You disgust me. | ||
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On October 15 2014 18:17 DarthPunk wrote: Thanks man! I get to be an Archon of Skill and Justice :D Which games of mine have you read in which I was terrible babe? I don't remember. I've been reading a lot of threads and QT's over the months. | ||
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On October 15 2014 18:20 DarthPunk wrote: By the way please don't get scared off from this newbies, Mafia just attracts argumentative people (and baseless, ignorant accusations apparently) Finally you can see your own flaws, I am so glad! :D | ||
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