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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
September 19 2014 01:03 GMT
#3221
On September 19 2014 10:00 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2014 09:07 Damdred wrote:
I'm about to get off work and ready to talk soon as I get home

Show nested quote +
On September 18 2014 10:38 Damdred wrote:
Sorry was driving.

Yes you should trust me.

Thats my best guess for where damdred is


I see.
I'm adorable.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
September 19 2014 01:03 GMT
#3222
K let's talk. I'm home
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
September 19 2014 01:23 GMT
#3227
On September 19 2014 10:20 geript wrote:
here's an fyi. Holyflare is actually likely to be mafia here.


Telling us why would be MARVELOUS.
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
September 19 2014 01:33 GMT
#3236
On September 19 2014 10:32 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2014 10:30 Holyflare wrote:
0% likely actually

Not really understanding why I've been questioned on alignment or even ever voted on when i literally claimed my exact role in the first post i made

oh so I can claim town and then afk for the entire game? Shit I've been playing mafia all wrong.


HAHAHAHA I like you.

Your top scumreads please
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
September 19 2014 01:39 GMT
#3244
On September 19 2014 10:37 Damdred wrote:
HF which players in the game would autolynch for wander/miller claims? Palmar and who else?


Damdy, I don't like your random questions. Feels like you're forcing to be contributive when actually you're trying to lead reads.
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
September 19 2014 01:49 GMT
#3254
On September 19 2014 10:46 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2014 10:40 Holyflare wrote:
The majority of games that someone claims it that person gets talked to death about and usually ends up as one of the candidates for lynch day 1.

lulz


What do you think of HF?
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
September 19 2014 01:50 GMT
#3256
On September 19 2014 10:45 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2014 10:39 GlowingBear wrote:
On September 19 2014 10:37 Damdred wrote:
HF which players in the game would autolynch for wander/miller claims? Palmar and who else?


Damdy, I don't like your random questions. Feels like you're forcing to be contributive when actually you're trying to lead reads.


you are being silly. You look for people who are playing outside their norm like palmar.


Palmar is an easy lynch today. Why are you focusing me to him?
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
September 19 2014 01:57 GMT
#3262
On September 19 2014 10:53 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2014 10:52 Holyflare wrote:
He was forced to take the claim back because he got called out about rayn agreeing with koshi that the pgo should claim.

Exactly.


So what? I also believe he is scum for that, but I want the conclusion on why's that particular a mafia move and not town move.
I'm adorable.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
September 19 2014 02:00 GMT
#3265
On September 19 2014 10:53 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2014 10:50 GlowingBear wrote:
On September 19 2014 10:45 Damdred wrote:
On September 19 2014 10:39 GlowingBear wrote:
On September 19 2014 10:37 Damdred wrote:
HF which players in the game would autolynch for wander/miller claims? Palmar and who else?


Damdy, I don't like your random questions. Feels like you're forcing to be contributive when actually you're trying to lead reads.


you are being silly. You look for people who are playing outside their norm like palmar.


Palmar is an easy lynch today. Why are you focusing me to him?


are you not reading the thread GB? Palmar was talked about last day cycle for not pushing a miller lynch like normal, hf said it was suicide cause of people in game I asked who else besides palmar. Pay attention please


I'm not asking that, damdy. Stop avoiding. I know exactly what palmar is doing and that's why I think he is an easy lynch. I'm asking why are you directing my reads. Like, I've been asking questions to you and you're basically saying "take a look at this guy instead". You're avoiding me.
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
September 19 2014 02:07 GMT
#3271
On September 19 2014 10:57 Superbia wrote:
All right, I'm here.

I read the push on me earlier today and was hoping more people would join in so I could get some more easy reads off it.

Let's start off with why pressuring me is good, but actually wanting to lynch me is scummy:

- I was basically not present during d1.
- My two during n1 were partially (but genuinely) erroneous.

As a result, there is no way that any VT will have a hard read on me. I have simply done too little. As a result, reading me somewhat or possibly scum/town is good. Having a hard read on me either way is most likely bad.

These three people have read me hard-scum (no one has read me hard-town):
- BloodyC0bbler (#2954)
- Chairman Ray (#2978)
- geript (#3091)

I think that there is at least 1 mafia between these three.

Let's start off with the most townie out of the three, Chairman Ray. CR's read on me is based on my play during the newbie's game in which I participated (LVIII, Disney Princess Mafia) and concludes that my participation factor is way off! Congratulations, CR, you are correct! I haven't had as much time as I would've liked. Read into this however you like. You get townpoints for checking out my (albeit short) history to analyze my playstyle, spend them well! I also like his recent contemplation on geript, this also makes geript seem more scum to me (overarching assumption + PoE). Would not like to lynch CR (right now)!

Moving on to BloodyC0bbler. Oh, BC... Your push on me makes little sense given the context. I have said before I voted on kush how I was going to vote d1. From your entire read I can gather that your analysis of my filter has just been sloppy. My missread on CR was mostly based on the fact that I thought kush was another player (I've said this before). My missread on geript was admittedly a little sloppy (I've said this before). Moving on to another point: you were pretty adamant about lynching Palmar d1, yet he completely disappeared off your scum list during d2. What's up with this?

Finally, geript. I don't have a very strong read on him. That being said, I'm definitely leaning scum on him at the moment. His PGO claim still feels very weird for me, but I can imagine scenarios in which I would do this (hint: that's why I specifically asked about it). I think his single active mafia scenario is very possible from a town perspective, though I believe there are at least 2 active mafia. At this point in time I think I would prefer to lynch BC over geript. I would really like geript to elaborate on why he thinks I'm scum, in a manner that's not obnoxious and with appropriate elaboration.

##Vote: BloodyC0bbler

Some additional reads/things:
ShiaoPi starts d2 very well and I like him! Short and to the point. I'm expecting you to keep it up, however.
Lord Tolkien keeps pinging me out to post. I'm almost in your pocket bro, just one more ping! (i.e. I like Tolkien)
IAmRobik is fucking weird and scary. Very unsure of you, man.
Palmar has picked it up a little d2 compared to what I read about him d1. I'm not sure what kind of game he's playing. Palmar, I would like to see you start a wagon today.

I don't have strong reads on other people right now, but I haven't had much time to filterdive a lot today. Will be around to interact for some time.


So you're basically saying your reads is based on how people pushed you.

1) tell me what do you think of palmar
2) what are the possible scenarios you've come to, regarding geript?
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
September 19 2014 02:11 GMT
#3273
On September 19 2014 11:06 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2014 10:57 GlowingBear wrote:
On September 19 2014 10:53 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 19 2014 10:52 Holyflare wrote:
He was forced to take the claim back because he got called out about rayn agreeing with koshi that the pgo should claim.

Exactly.


So what? I also believe he is scum for that, but I want the conclusion on why's that particular a mafia move and not town move.

This sentence. Sense it does not make.


Sorry, language problems. Let me rephrase it.

I think geript is scum for claiming PGO and unclaiming.

But I want the scum motivation behind it. Just saying "he is scum for doing that" is bad. I want to hear "he is scum for doing that because as scum he can get away from this, force a push on this", etc.

I want to know what is the scum motivation behind the unclaim.
I'm adorable.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
September 19 2014 02:13 GMT
#3276
On September 19 2014 11:07 Holyflare wrote:
Hahahaha wtf "i think he's mafia for that but you tell me why he's mafia for that and not town!"


I have my own read, but I want to check if you're not just parrots repeating "he claimed and unclaimed, he is scum" just to force a lynch on geript.
I'm adorable.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
September 19 2014 02:15 GMT
#3279
On September 19 2014 11:13 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2014 11:11 GlowingBear wrote:
On September 19 2014 11:06 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 19 2014 10:57 GlowingBear wrote:
On September 19 2014 10:53 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 19 2014 10:52 Holyflare wrote:
He was forced to take the claim back because he got called out about rayn agreeing with koshi that the pgo should claim.

Exactly.


So what? I also believe he is scum for that, but I want the conclusion on why's that particular a mafia move and not town move.

This sentence. Sense it does not make.


Sorry, language problems. Let me rephrase it.

I think geript is scum for claiming PGO and unclaiming.

But I want the scum motivation behind it. Just saying "he is scum for doing that" is bad. I want to hear "he is scum for doing that because as scum he can get away from this, force a push on this", etc.

I want to know what is the scum motivation behind the unclaim.

Well, the motivation for the unclaim is surviving. As either alignment. The mafia motivation for the claim itself is that a counterclaim was very unlikely at that point and nobody would check/track/lynch a claimed PGO. I see no town motivation for it.


Ok. Now tell me: why did he unclaim when he could've kept the claim and convince us he was actually PGO?
I'm adorable.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
September 19 2014 02:19 GMT
#3282
On September 19 2014 11:16 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2014 11:07 GlowingBear wrote:
So you're basically saying your reads is based on how people pushed you.

1) tell me what do you think of palmar
2) what are the possible scenarios you've come to, regarding geript?


Correct, I thought I would make use of my unfortunate d1 situation in a way that might profit me. I had read the push on me before at the start of the day and figured I would let it run and possibly fish out some scum.

1) I don't know what the fuck he's playing. I think his kind of play might be the same for town as for scum. He felt incredibly scummy for me d1 (though I only skimmed d1, and it will most likely stay that way due to time constraints), and multiple people felt the same way. However, I felt like it might just be something he does to set up easy scum games for when he rolls scum. I.e. he will do it regardless of alignment. So I don't know about Palmar right now, I want him to be more proactive so I can align him with others and hopefully have an easier time reading him.

2) geript is either emotional town or scum. I don't like emotional town because they're rather unpredictable to me, and quite frankly, they're annoying to cooperate with. Besides his garbage vote on me, I don't have anything strong on him at the moment. If I had two bullets I would shoot both BC and geript. Since we have one lynch I would prefer it to go on BC right now.


Do you believe geript and palmar could be from the same alignment?
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
September 19 2014 02:21 GMT
#3287
On September 19 2014 11:17 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2014 11:15 GlowingBear wrote:
On September 19 2014 11:13 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 19 2014 11:11 GlowingBear wrote:
On September 19 2014 11:06 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 19 2014 10:57 GlowingBear wrote:
On September 19 2014 10:53 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 19 2014 10:52 Holyflare wrote:
He was forced to take the claim back because he got called out about rayn agreeing with koshi that the pgo should claim.

Exactly.


So what? I also believe he is scum for that, but I want the conclusion on why's that particular a mafia move and not town move.

This sentence. Sense it does not make.


Sorry, language problems. Let me rephrase it.

I think geript is scum for claiming PGO and unclaiming.

But I want the scum motivation behind it. Just saying "he is scum for doing that" is bad. I want to hear "he is scum for doing that because as scum he can get away from this, force a push on this", etc.

I want to know what is the scum motivation behind the unclaim.

Well, the motivation for the unclaim is surviving. As either alignment. The mafia motivation for the claim itself is that a counterclaim was very unlikely at that point and nobody would check/track/lynch a claimed PGO. I see no town motivation for it.


Ok. Now tell me: why did he unclaim when he could've kept the claim and convince us he was actually PGO?

This was explained a million times by now dude. Because rayn agreed with Koshi that PGO should claim and rayn DIDN'T claim. We would have lynched geript 100 % if he kept the claim.


He could easily keep the claim and say that Rayn said that so mafia would visit him at night trying to kill him and die.
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
September 19 2014 02:25 GMT
#3296
On September 19 2014 11:19 Holyflare wrote:
The town motivation is to get killed but he stopped that by unclaiming. This also wasn't his intention because his stated reason was "to get the pgo to claim". Which is actually very shit now that we kind of know mafia likely has a roleblocker (i think you can rb pgo? It says it resolves after rb's). A medic wouldn't be able to save the pgo and the pgo could get killed.



I didn't know the bolded.
I was pretty certain he is mafia but now I'm completely convinced
##Vote: geript
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
September 19 2014 02:29 GMT
#3303
On September 19 2014 11:22 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2014 11:19 GlowingBear wrote:
On September 19 2014 11:16 Superbia wrote:
On September 19 2014 11:07 GlowingBear wrote:
So you're basically saying your reads is based on how people pushed you.

1) tell me what do you think of palmar
2) what are the possible scenarios you've come to, regarding geript?


Correct, I thought I would make use of my unfortunate d1 situation in a way that might profit me. I had read the push on me before at the start of the day and figured I would let it run and possibly fish out some scum.

1) I don't know what the fuck he's playing. I think his kind of play might be the same for town as for scum. He felt incredibly scummy for me d1 (though I only skimmed d1, and it will most likely stay that way due to time constraints), and multiple people felt the same way. However, I felt like it might just be something he does to set up easy scum games for when he rolls scum. I.e. he will do it regardless of alignment. So I don't know about Palmar right now, I want him to be more proactive so I can align him with others and hopefully have an easier time reading him.

2) geript is either emotional town or scum. I don't like emotional town because they're rather unpredictable to me, and quite frankly, they're annoying to cooperate with. Besides his garbage vote on me, I don't have anything strong on him at the moment. If I had two bullets I would shoot both BC and geript. Since we have one lynch I would prefer it to go on BC right now.


Do you believe geript and palmar could be from the same alignment?


Possible. I'm more inclined to think that palmar is aligned with BC.


So you said you would shoot geript and BC. Now you're saying palmar is aligned with BC. You're basically saying that those 3 are mafia. Is that so?
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
September 19 2014 02:35 GMT
#3313
On September 19 2014 11:28 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2014 11:25 GlowingBear wrote:
On September 19 2014 11:19 Holyflare wrote:
The town motivation is to get killed but he stopped that by unclaiming. This also wasn't his intention because his stated reason was "to get the pgo to claim". Which is actually very shit now that we kind of know mafia likely has a roleblocker (i think you can rb pgo? It says it resolves after rb's). A medic wouldn't be able to save the pgo and the pgo could get killed.



I didn't know the bolded.
I was pretty certain he is mafia but now I'm completely convinced
##Vote: geript

Since you didn't agree with my reasoning I want you to give yours in detail. Now.


Where haven't I agree with you? I asked questions because I wanted to know people's reads exactly.

I think he is mafia because he claimed at night. It is a very good and safe move to do because he would avoid being visited by blues at night. Also, summing up with Rayn's attitude of targeting palmar (easy lynch), it makes sense he is scum.
I was just a little insecure because I thought as mafia he would keep his claim and hard defend it instead of unclaiming.
But his reasoning on why he was unclaiming is completely off.
I'm adorable.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
September 19 2014 02:38 GMT
#3324
On September 19 2014 11:33 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2014 11:29 GlowingBear wrote:
On September 19 2014 11:22 Superbia wrote:
On September 19 2014 11:19 GlowingBear wrote:
On September 19 2014 11:16 Superbia wrote:
On September 19 2014 11:07 GlowingBear wrote:
So you're basically saying your reads is based on how people pushed you.

1) tell me what do you think of palmar
2) what are the possible scenarios you've come to, regarding geript?


Correct, I thought I would make use of my unfortunate d1 situation in a way that might profit me. I had read the push on me before at the start of the day and figured I would let it run and possibly fish out some scum.

1) I don't know what the fuck he's playing. I think his kind of play might be the same for town as for scum. He felt incredibly scummy for me d1 (though I only skimmed d1, and it will most likely stay that way due to time constraints), and multiple people felt the same way. However, I felt like it might just be something he does to set up easy scum games for when he rolls scum. I.e. he will do it regardless of alignment. So I don't know about Palmar right now, I want him to be more proactive so I can align him with others and hopefully have an easier time reading him.

2) geript is either emotional town or scum. I don't like emotional town because they're rather unpredictable to me, and quite frankly, they're annoying to cooperate with. Besides his garbage vote on me, I don't have anything strong on him at the moment. If I had two bullets I would shoot both BC and geript. Since we have one lynch I would prefer it to go on BC right now.


Do you believe geript and palmar could be from the same alignment?


Possible. I'm more inclined to think that palmar is aligned with BC.


So you said you would shoot geript and BC. Now you're saying palmar is aligned with BC. You're basically saying that those 3 are mafia. Is that so?


Let me put in a nice little list:
If possible -> Shoot both BC and geript.
Then if BC flips scum -> Shoot Palmar.

I'm not quite sure about the second point, because I haven't had the time to get a good read on everyone yet, but as it stands right now, I wouldn't be unhappy with this. Happy now?


Nope.
It makes sense but your reasoning is weird. I don't get why you would associate palmar with flipped scum BC.
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
September 19 2014 02:41 GMT
#3327
On September 19 2014 11:37 justanothertownie wrote:
Ok, scratch that. I hate ninjas.


What is this "ninjas" or ninja'd you guys talk about?
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