• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 22:59
CEST 04:59
KST 11:59
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins Maestros of the Game 224ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection7
Community News
MC vs IdrA, Boxer vs Nal_rA to be Legacy Matches @ BlizzCon315.0.16 Hotfix (June 30) - Balance + Bug Fixes38Weekly Cups (June 22-28): Zergs thrive in new patch5[TLMC] Summer 2026 Ladder Map Rotation05.0.16 patch for SC2 goes live (8 worker start)99
StarCraft 2
General
TL Poll: How do you feel about the 5.0.16 PTR balance changes? Serral wins Maestros of the Game 2 ZOWIE DIVINA preview Server Blocker StarCraft Mass Recall: SC1 campaigns on SC2 thread
Tourneys
HomeStory Cup 29 Vespene Cup #1 — $300+ USD, July 10 Douyu Cup 2026: $20,000 Legends Event (June 26-28) Crank Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
New Map Maker - Looking for Advice - Love or Hate Work In Progress Melee Maps [D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
Mutation # 533 Die Together The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 532 Nuclear Family Mutation # 531 Experimental Artillery
Brood War
General
ASL 22 Proposed Map Pool Snow On New ASL S22 Map, Zerg Nerf BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Farewell Beloved Starcraft (Youtube Videos) BW General Discussion
Tourneys
CSLAN 4 is Coming! Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 The Casual Games of the Week Thread [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Creating a full chart of Zerg builds Relatively freeroll strategies Why doesn't anyone use restoration?
Other Games
General Games
Dawn of War IV Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Summer Games Done Quick 2026! Nintendo Switch Thread ZeroSpace at Steam NextFest - Last free demo
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
Five o'clock TL Mafia NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance TL Mafia Community Thread TL Mafia Power Rank Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread YouTube Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI
Fan Clubs
The HerO Fan Club! The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Series you have seen recently... [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [TV/BOOK] *SPOILERS* Game of Thrones Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion McBoner: A hockey love story TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Cricket [SPORT]
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
How to clean a TTe Thermaltake keyboard? Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Major Shifts in the Gaming I…
TrAiDoS
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
I'm an arrogant trash talke…
FlaShFTW
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 9893 users

TL Mafia LXVIII: Fanfic Crossover Edition - Page 5

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 10 11 12 Next All
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 16 2014 20:29 GMT
#1948
also did damdred claim miller? or are we now talking about hf?
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 16 2014 20:30 GMT
#1952
On September 17 2014 05:29 marvellosity wrote:
you're also not reading the thread

I told you multiple times I am not reading the thread.

Why are you suddenly acting up about it?
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 16 2014 20:31 GMT
#1961
On September 17 2014 05:30 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2014 05:29 Palmar wrote:
also did damdred claim miller? or are we now talking about hf?

HOW CAN YOU DECIDE NOT TO DO IT IF YOU DID NOT SEE HIM CLAIM IT

I thought you were talking about HF.. which is why I felt like the conversation was taking a super weird turn.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 16 2014 20:33 GMT
#1969
pls no shoot.

If shoot, you're awful player who is influenced by aids and bads by marv and rayn, at least one of whom is mafia.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 16 2014 20:34 GMT
#1971
On September 17 2014 05:33 IAmRobik wrote:
palmar prolly mafia actually lol

Nope sorry bro
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 16 2014 20:34 GMT
#1973
On September 17 2014 05:34 Koshi wrote:
##unvote
##vote Palmar.

I am ready to change back but Palmar gave a hard townread to Kush. My personal rule forces me to vote Palmar.

Did I?
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 16 2014 20:36 GMT
#1982
On September 17 2014 05:34 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2014 05:34 Palmar wrote:
On September 17 2014 05:34 Koshi wrote:
##unvote
##vote Palmar.

I am ready to change back but Palmar gave a hard townread to Kush. My personal rule forces me to vote Palmar.

Did I?

Yes you did. 5% succes thingie.

I specifically explained I had no good reason for that other than thinking that the one wagon that takes of in Majority Lynch when we don't have a solid case is unlikely to hit mafia.

I haven't even read kush.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 16 2014 20:40 GMT
#1991
On September 17 2014 05:36 marvellosity wrote:
like actively sabotaging the town.

kinda thing he might do.

yo, I'm not taking shit like that.

You can call me out on not being overly concerned about my own fate, or trying super hard to convince everyone I'm town, but I'm not actively sabotaging anything. I have provided a ton of reads, most of them with pretty decent explanations attached to them, I keep giving input on things happening in the thread.

Like I have no clue why yamato is saying I'm bad. The only bad thing about my play is that I'm not being super concerned with being lynched, and well.. whatever.

There's a bunch of people in this game, in fact including yourself, who have given less reads with less reasons than I have. The problem is, you're expecting me to behave in a certain way and you're mad that I'm not doing it.

Like look at our friend rayn, who has engaged in more conversations about a wider variety of topics, me or him?

no bs pls.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 16 2014 20:43 GMT
#1994
On September 17 2014 05:39 marvellosity wrote:
yes why doesn't palmar want to lynch Damdred NOW

Why should I?

It's far more likely he's just an idiot that doesn't know how to defend himself. It's terrible play, but I'm not in the mood to whip up policy lynches.

If someone else wants to lead the way, be my guest, I'll even vote him, but I'm not gonna yell at people to policy lynch him. I just cba teaching people how to play this game, and half the time it's townies who do retarded shit.

Also, we have 1 miller claim and 1 nosy claim, that sounds about right? no ccs? everything looks ok to me.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 16 2014 20:44 GMT
#1998
On September 17 2014 05:41 marvellosity wrote:
it's not bs palmar.

you are not reading the thread.

you are actively (not)doing what you normally do as town

you are sabotaging the game if you are town.

I can play however I want. I'm not obligated to adhere to whatever standards you set for me. I don't even have to be consistent from game to game.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 16 2014 20:44 GMT
#2000
On September 17 2014 05:43 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2014 05:43 Palmar wrote:
On September 17 2014 05:39 marvellosity wrote:
yes why doesn't palmar want to lynch Damdred NOW

Why should I?

It's far more likely he's just an idiot that doesn't know how to defend himself. It's terrible play, but I'm not in the mood to whip up policy lynches.

If someone else wants to lead the way, be my guest, I'll even vote him, but I'm not gonna yell at people to policy lynch him. I just cba teaching people how to play this game, and half the time it's townies who do retarded shit.

Also, we have 1 miller claim and 1 nosy claim, that sounds about right? no ccs? everything looks ok to me.

so you're breaking with your attitude that you've held, with great fervour, for 4 years?

wonderful.

Got a problem with that?
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 16 2014 20:45 GMT
#2007
On September 17 2014 05:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2014 05:43 Palmar wrote:
Also, we have 1 miller claim and 1 nosy claim, that sounds about right? no ccs? everything looks ok to me.

no miller claims and if we did, why are you not lynching them?

Because townies tend to do stupid shit. Claiming miller day 1 is stupid, thus it's more likely that he's a townie!

boom, headshot logic.

Also are you not reading thread? EVERYONE knows damdred claimed miller.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 16 2014 20:46 GMT
#2010
On September 17 2014 05:45 marvellosity wrote:
and i'm going to be late because i'm stuck in a fruitless argument with somenoe we're not lynching today

silly me

Is ok, you look great just the way you are, you don't have to do your hair ♥♥
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 16 2014 20:46 GMT
#2011
On September 17 2014 05:45 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2014 05:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 17 2014 05:43 Palmar wrote:
Also, we have 1 miller claim and 1 nosy claim, that sounds about right? no ccs? everything looks ok to me.

no miller claims and if we did, why are you not lynching them?

damdred claimed miller...god your as bad as palmar

rofl, this game is officially the best ever now.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 16 2014 20:47 GMT
#2017
On September 17 2014 05:46 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2014 05:45 Palmar wrote:
On September 17 2014 05:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 17 2014 05:43 Palmar wrote:
Also, we have 1 miller claim and 1 nosy claim, that sounds about right? no ccs? everything looks ok to me.

no miller claims and if we did, why are you not lynching them?

Because townies tend to do stupid shit. Claiming miller day 1 is stupid, thus it's more likely that he's a townie!

boom, headshot logic.

Also are you not reading thread? EVERYONE knows damdred claimed miller.

but you don't believe this!!!!!!

Who says I don't?
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 16 2014 20:49 GMT
#2025
Rayn it's okay.

ssshhh...

We have to stay calm

It'll all be over soon.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 16 2014 20:50 GMT
#2030
On September 17 2014 05:48 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2014 05:47 Palmar wrote:
On September 17 2014 05:46 marvellosity wrote:
On September 17 2014 05:45 Palmar wrote:
On September 17 2014 05:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 17 2014 05:43 Palmar wrote:
Also, we have 1 miller claim and 1 nosy claim, that sounds about right? no ccs? everything looks ok to me.

no miller claims and if we did, why are you not lynching them?

Because townies tend to do stupid shit. Claiming miller day 1 is stupid, thus it's more likely that he's a townie!

boom, headshot logic.

Also are you not reading thread? EVERYONE knows damdred claimed miller.

but you don't believe this!!!!!!

Who says I don't?

Do you want me to pull some quotes from hogwarts?

Maybe I don't agree with myself?

Who knows?

The world is a strange place.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 16 2014 20:51 GMT
#2033
On September 17 2014 05:50 IAmRobik wrote:
I don't think I'm willing to lynch someone who rayn wants to lynch today. Even if it is scum!plaamammar. If town!rayn wanted us to lynch someone, he wouldn't scream about it like a whiney little girl and he would explain it instead of just screaming wahhhhhh lynch palmmmmmmar wahhhhhhh

Tbh, in rayn's defense, I'm giving him nothing to work with.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 16 2014 20:54 GMT
#2041
On September 17 2014 05:52 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2014 05:50 Hopeless1der wrote:
On September 17 2014 05:49 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 17 2014 05:48 Hopeless1der wrote:
On September 17 2014 05:47 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 17 2014 05:45 Hopeless1der wrote:
On September 17 2014 05:43 justanothertownie wrote:
Palmar not policy lynching a miller IS weird. Last time we mislynched him day1 because he was so insistent and didn't want to consider anything else.

wait so palmar can learn to put self preservation above personal beliefs? Not sure I buy this...

Huh?

basically what marv is arguing with palmar about. In palmar's world view, millers ALWAYS 100% get the lynch.

I know that?!

and THIS game...Palmar just doesnt care to lynch the miller claim? ergo people are up in arms about it.

I know that too?!
Btw.:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2013 20:47 Palmar wrote:
Reposting for format.

Mocsta wrote:
(2) Whats the point?
IIRC, your video of "?Hero Mafia?" you went into the theoretical aspects of claiming SAM; and the outcome was to always claim the role as town. The point was to make the right play for town.

(3) What was I hoping to achieve?
I played really bad last game. Really bad. I have also been framed two games in a row (with a cop check). People find me hard to read. I was trying to be open with town and provide information that could help them. Either, policy lynch me; or obtain a read on me by judging my play, not a cop check (as has been the case recently)


No, I would never say anything dumb like that.

Here is why claiming SAM is incredibly mafia favored.

A single cop checking randomly has a 1/22 (24 - himself - lynchee) chance of checking you on night 1, that's 4.5% chance. The chance slowly goes up throughout the game, but only in the absolute far late game does there exist a significant chance a SAM exists.

We don't know if there is a SAM in this game. If the setup was open there'd be an argument for claiming, in fact in a completely open game a SAM is a power role. However in a closed setup, there is no point in claiming it. Optimal play would be to simply play well enough so cops wouldn't even think about checking you. The fact that you claimed means for some reason you yourself believe that you will be unable to keep yourself out of the red-ish zone for this game. I'm not sure if this is lack of confidence in your own play, or if this is because you're scum. But I see no reason to play sub-optimally as town.

As mafia, the benefits of claiming SAM are amazing, it basically neutralizes the cop against one of your team. You're taking a weapon away from the town. You'll still be analyzed as before, but you can never be attacked as scum through a check. This also means the chance of hitting mafia goes down from 6/22 (27,2%) on the first night to 5/21 (23,8%) for a cop.

This benefit becomes even more important if the mafia has a godfather (5/22 to 4/21).

So the question remains, why are you afraid of a cop check? There's an entire team of mafia players whose goal is to play towny enough to not get checked, and they have to do it with the burden of knowledge and the inherent scummyness that leads to mafia lynches all the time anyway, a miller would be completely free of those things, and yet doesn't have the balls to avoid a cop check with good play?

##Vote Mocsta



Fake.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 16 2014 20:55 GMT
#2044
On September 17 2014 05:53 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2014 05:51 IAmRobik wrote:
If we no-lynch today because of indecisive little girls, I'm going to have the mads

You live in a constant state of "the mads". Your threats are meaningless.

Rofl.

VE, your presence gives me a smile. These idiots are awful.
Computer says mafia
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 10 11 12 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
HomeStory Cup
11:30
XXIX - Playoffs Final Day
TaKeTV203
Rex79
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft581
WinterStarcraft574
Nina 97
Rex 79
FoxeR 41
StarCraft: Brood War
Rain 3042
GuemChi 2765
Artosis 584
Mind 67
Aegong 62
Bale 31
yabsab 27
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm178
League of Legends
Doublelift4025
Counter-Strike
summit1g8436
Fnx 1208
taco 243
Other Games
JimRising 795
Maynarde114
UpATreeSC42
RuFF_SC210
JuggernautJason6
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick31589
BasetradeTV237
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream113
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 89
• Mapu6
• OhrlRock 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Scarra1166
• Jankos318
Upcoming Events
GSL
8h 1m
Replay Cast
21h 1m
WardiTV Weekly
1d 8h
PiGosaur Cup
1d 21h
The PondCast
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
CrankTV Team League
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
CrankTV Team League
4 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
4 days
RSL Revival
5 days
CranKy Ducklings
5 days
Afreeca Starleague
5 days
Snow vs Jaedong
YSC vs hero
RSL Revival
6 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL Season 21: Qualifier 2
HSC XXIX
Eternal Conflict S2 E1

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
Acropolis #4
CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
SCTL 2026 Spring
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S3: W2
ASL Season 22:Wild Card Qualifier
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
Light Tournament 2026
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale
Eternal Conflict S2 E3
Eternal Conflict S2 E2
Heroes Pulsing #3
Logitech G Connect 2026
StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.