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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 16 2014 20:29 GMT
#1948
also did damdred claim miller? or are we now talking about hf?
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 16 2014 20:30 GMT
#1952
On September 17 2014 05:29 marvellosity wrote:
you're also not reading the thread

I told you multiple times I am not reading the thread.

Why are you suddenly acting up about it?
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 16 2014 20:31 GMT
#1961
On September 17 2014 05:30 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2014 05:29 Palmar wrote:
also did damdred claim miller? or are we now talking about hf?

HOW CAN YOU DECIDE NOT TO DO IT IF YOU DID NOT SEE HIM CLAIM IT

I thought you were talking about HF.. which is why I felt like the conversation was taking a super weird turn.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 16 2014 20:33 GMT
#1969
pls no shoot.

If shoot, you're awful player who is influenced by aids and bads by marv and rayn, at least one of whom is mafia.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 16 2014 20:34 GMT
#1971
On September 17 2014 05:33 IAmRobik wrote:
palmar prolly mafia actually lol

Nope sorry bro
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 16 2014 20:34 GMT
#1973
On September 17 2014 05:34 Koshi wrote:
##unvote
##vote Palmar.

I am ready to change back but Palmar gave a hard townread to Kush. My personal rule forces me to vote Palmar.

Did I?
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 16 2014 20:36 GMT
#1982
On September 17 2014 05:34 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2014 05:34 Palmar wrote:
On September 17 2014 05:34 Koshi wrote:
##unvote
##vote Palmar.

I am ready to change back but Palmar gave a hard townread to Kush. My personal rule forces me to vote Palmar.

Did I?

Yes you did. 5% succes thingie.

I specifically explained I had no good reason for that other than thinking that the one wagon that takes of in Majority Lynch when we don't have a solid case is unlikely to hit mafia.

I haven't even read kush.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 16 2014 20:40 GMT
#1991
On September 17 2014 05:36 marvellosity wrote:
like actively sabotaging the town.

kinda thing he might do.

yo, I'm not taking shit like that.

You can call me out on not being overly concerned about my own fate, or trying super hard to convince everyone I'm town, but I'm not actively sabotaging anything. I have provided a ton of reads, most of them with pretty decent explanations attached to them, I keep giving input on things happening in the thread.

Like I have no clue why yamato is saying I'm bad. The only bad thing about my play is that I'm not being super concerned with being lynched, and well.. whatever.

There's a bunch of people in this game, in fact including yourself, who have given less reads with less reasons than I have. The problem is, you're expecting me to behave in a certain way and you're mad that I'm not doing it.

Like look at our friend rayn, who has engaged in more conversations about a wider variety of topics, me or him?

no bs pls.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 16 2014 20:43 GMT
#1994
On September 17 2014 05:39 marvellosity wrote:
yes why doesn't palmar want to lynch Damdred NOW

Why should I?

It's far more likely he's just an idiot that doesn't know how to defend himself. It's terrible play, but I'm not in the mood to whip up policy lynches.

If someone else wants to lead the way, be my guest, I'll even vote him, but I'm not gonna yell at people to policy lynch him. I just cba teaching people how to play this game, and half the time it's townies who do retarded shit.

Also, we have 1 miller claim and 1 nosy claim, that sounds about right? no ccs? everything looks ok to me.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 16 2014 20:44 GMT
#1998
On September 17 2014 05:41 marvellosity wrote:
it's not bs palmar.

you are not reading the thread.

you are actively (not)doing what you normally do as town

you are sabotaging the game if you are town.

I can play however I want. I'm not obligated to adhere to whatever standards you set for me. I don't even have to be consistent from game to game.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 16 2014 20:44 GMT
#2000
On September 17 2014 05:43 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2014 05:43 Palmar wrote:
On September 17 2014 05:39 marvellosity wrote:
yes why doesn't palmar want to lynch Damdred NOW

Why should I?

It's far more likely he's just an idiot that doesn't know how to defend himself. It's terrible play, but I'm not in the mood to whip up policy lynches.

If someone else wants to lead the way, be my guest, I'll even vote him, but I'm not gonna yell at people to policy lynch him. I just cba teaching people how to play this game, and half the time it's townies who do retarded shit.

Also, we have 1 miller claim and 1 nosy claim, that sounds about right? no ccs? everything looks ok to me.

so you're breaking with your attitude that you've held, with great fervour, for 4 years?

wonderful.

Got a problem with that?
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 16 2014 20:45 GMT
#2007
On September 17 2014 05:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2014 05:43 Palmar wrote:
Also, we have 1 miller claim and 1 nosy claim, that sounds about right? no ccs? everything looks ok to me.

no miller claims and if we did, why are you not lynching them?

Because townies tend to do stupid shit. Claiming miller day 1 is stupid, thus it's more likely that he's a townie!

boom, headshot logic.

Also are you not reading thread? EVERYONE knows damdred claimed miller.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 16 2014 20:46 GMT
#2010
On September 17 2014 05:45 marvellosity wrote:
and i'm going to be late because i'm stuck in a fruitless argument with somenoe we're not lynching today

silly me

Is ok, you look great just the way you are, you don't have to do your hair ♥♥
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 16 2014 20:46 GMT
#2011
On September 17 2014 05:45 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2014 05:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 17 2014 05:43 Palmar wrote:
Also, we have 1 miller claim and 1 nosy claim, that sounds about right? no ccs? everything looks ok to me.

no miller claims and if we did, why are you not lynching them?

damdred claimed miller...god your as bad as palmar

rofl, this game is officially the best ever now.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 16 2014 20:47 GMT
#2017
On September 17 2014 05:46 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2014 05:45 Palmar wrote:
On September 17 2014 05:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 17 2014 05:43 Palmar wrote:
Also, we have 1 miller claim and 1 nosy claim, that sounds about right? no ccs? everything looks ok to me.

no miller claims and if we did, why are you not lynching them?

Because townies tend to do stupid shit. Claiming miller day 1 is stupid, thus it's more likely that he's a townie!

boom, headshot logic.

Also are you not reading thread? EVERYONE knows damdred claimed miller.

but you don't believe this!!!!!!

Who says I don't?
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 16 2014 20:49 GMT
#2025
Rayn it's okay.

ssshhh...

We have to stay calm

It'll all be over soon.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 16 2014 20:50 GMT
#2030
On September 17 2014 05:48 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2014 05:47 Palmar wrote:
On September 17 2014 05:46 marvellosity wrote:
On September 17 2014 05:45 Palmar wrote:
On September 17 2014 05:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 17 2014 05:43 Palmar wrote:
Also, we have 1 miller claim and 1 nosy claim, that sounds about right? no ccs? everything looks ok to me.

no miller claims and if we did, why are you not lynching them?

Because townies tend to do stupid shit. Claiming miller day 1 is stupid, thus it's more likely that he's a townie!

boom, headshot logic.

Also are you not reading thread? EVERYONE knows damdred claimed miller.

but you don't believe this!!!!!!

Who says I don't?

Do you want me to pull some quotes from hogwarts?

Maybe I don't agree with myself?

Who knows?

The world is a strange place.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 16 2014 20:51 GMT
#2033
On September 17 2014 05:50 IAmRobik wrote:
I don't think I'm willing to lynch someone who rayn wants to lynch today. Even if it is scum!plaamammar. If town!rayn wanted us to lynch someone, he wouldn't scream about it like a whiney little girl and he would explain it instead of just screaming wahhhhhh lynch palmmmmmmar wahhhhhhh

Tbh, in rayn's defense, I'm giving him nothing to work with.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 16 2014 20:54 GMT
#2041
On September 17 2014 05:52 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2014 05:50 Hopeless1der wrote:
On September 17 2014 05:49 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 17 2014 05:48 Hopeless1der wrote:
On September 17 2014 05:47 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 17 2014 05:45 Hopeless1der wrote:
On September 17 2014 05:43 justanothertownie wrote:
Palmar not policy lynching a miller IS weird. Last time we mislynched him day1 because he was so insistent and didn't want to consider anything else.

wait so palmar can learn to put self preservation above personal beliefs? Not sure I buy this...

Huh?

basically what marv is arguing with palmar about. In palmar's world view, millers ALWAYS 100% get the lynch.

I know that?!

and THIS game...Palmar just doesnt care to lynch the miller claim? ergo people are up in arms about it.

I know that too?!
Btw.:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2013 20:47 Palmar wrote:
Reposting for format.

Mocsta wrote:
(2) Whats the point?
IIRC, your video of "?Hero Mafia?" you went into the theoretical aspects of claiming SAM; and the outcome was to always claim the role as town. The point was to make the right play for town.

(3) What was I hoping to achieve?
I played really bad last game. Really bad. I have also been framed two games in a row (with a cop check). People find me hard to read. I was trying to be open with town and provide information that could help them. Either, policy lynch me; or obtain a read on me by judging my play, not a cop check (as has been the case recently)


No, I would never say anything dumb like that.

Here is why claiming SAM is incredibly mafia favored.

A single cop checking randomly has a 1/22 (24 - himself - lynchee) chance of checking you on night 1, that's 4.5% chance. The chance slowly goes up throughout the game, but only in the absolute far late game does there exist a significant chance a SAM exists.

We don't know if there is a SAM in this game. If the setup was open there'd be an argument for claiming, in fact in a completely open game a SAM is a power role. However in a closed setup, there is no point in claiming it. Optimal play would be to simply play well enough so cops wouldn't even think about checking you. The fact that you claimed means for some reason you yourself believe that you will be unable to keep yourself out of the red-ish zone for this game. I'm not sure if this is lack of confidence in your own play, or if this is because you're scum. But I see no reason to play sub-optimally as town.

As mafia, the benefits of claiming SAM are amazing, it basically neutralizes the cop against one of your team. You're taking a weapon away from the town. You'll still be analyzed as before, but you can never be attacked as scum through a check. This also means the chance of hitting mafia goes down from 6/22 (27,2%) on the first night to 5/21 (23,8%) for a cop.

This benefit becomes even more important if the mafia has a godfather (5/22 to 4/21).

So the question remains, why are you afraid of a cop check? There's an entire team of mafia players whose goal is to play towny enough to not get checked, and they have to do it with the burden of knowledge and the inherent scummyness that leads to mafia lynches all the time anyway, a miller would be completely free of those things, and yet doesn't have the balls to avoid a cop check with good play?

##Vote Mocsta



Fake.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 16 2014 20:55 GMT
#2044
On September 17 2014 05:53 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2014 05:51 IAmRobik wrote:
If we no-lynch today because of indecisive little girls, I'm going to have the mads

You live in a constant state of "the mads". Your threats are meaningless.

Rofl.

VE, your presence gives me a smile. These idiots are awful.
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