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On September 17 2014 05:52 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2014 05:50 Hopeless1der wrote:On September 17 2014 05:49 justanothertownie wrote:On September 17 2014 05:48 Hopeless1der wrote:On September 17 2014 05:47 justanothertownie wrote:On September 17 2014 05:45 Hopeless1der wrote:On September 17 2014 05:43 justanothertownie wrote:
Palmar not policy lynching a miller IS weird. Last time we mislynched him day1 because he was so insistent and didn't want to consider anything else. wait so palmar can learn to put self preservation above personal beliefs? Not sure I buy this... Huh? basically what marv is arguing with palmar about. In palmar's world view, millers ALWAYS 100% get the lynch. I know that?! and THIS game...Palmar just doesnt care to lynch the miller claim? ergo people are up in arms about it. I know that too?! Btw.: Show nested quote +On October 18 2013 20:47 Palmar wrote:Reposting for format. Mocsta wrote:
(2) Whats the point?
IIRC, your video of "?Hero Mafia?" you went into the theoretical aspects of claiming SAM; and the outcome was to always claim the role as town. The point was to make the right play for town.
(3) What was I hoping to achieve?
I played really bad last game. Really bad. I have also been framed two games in a row (with a cop check). People find me hard to read. I was trying to be open with town and provide information that could help them. Either, policy lynch me; or obtain a read on me by judging my play, not a cop check (as has been the case recently) No, I would never say anything dumb like that. Here is why claiming SAM is incredibly mafia favored. A single cop checking randomly has a 1/22 (24 - himself - lynchee) chance of checking you on night 1, that's 4.5% chance. The chance slowly goes up throughout the game, but only in the absolute far late game does there exist a significant chance a SAM exists. We don't know if there is a SAM in this game. If the setup was open there'd be an argument for claiming, in fact in a completely open game a SAM is a power role. However in a closed setup, there is no point in claiming it. Optimal play would be to simply play well enough so cops wouldn't even think about checking you. The fact that you claimed means for some reason you yourself believe that you will be unable to keep yourself out of the red-ish zone for this game. I'm not sure if this is lack of confidence in your own play, or if this is because you're scum. But I see no reason to play sub-optimally as town. As mafia, the benefits of claiming SAM are amazing, it basically neutralizes the cop against one of your team. You're taking a weapon away from the town. You'll still be analyzed as before, but you can never be attacked as scum through a check. This also means the chance of hitting mafia goes down from 6/22 (27,2%) on the first night to 5/21 (23,8%) for a cop. This benefit becomes even more important if the mafia has a godfather (5/22 to 4/21). So the question remains, why are you afraid of a cop check? There's an entire team of mafia players whose goal is to play towny enough to not get checked, and they have to do it with the burden of knowledge and the inherent scummyness that leads to mafia lynches all the time anyway, a miller would be completely free of those things, and yet doesn't have the balls to avoid a cop check with good play? ##Vote Mocsta
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marv you literally suck ass if you do not vote for Palmar.
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On September 17 2014 05:53 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2014 05:51 IAmRobik wrote:
If we no-lynch today because of indecisive little girls, I'm going to have the mads You live in a constant state of "the mads". Your threats are meaningless.
You live in a constant state of "the bads". L2P
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On September 17 2014 05:53 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2014 05:51 IAmRobik wrote:
If we no-lynch today because of indecisive little girls, I'm going to have the mads You live in a constant state of "the mads". Your threats are meaningless.
Rofl.
VE, your presence gives me a smile. These idiots are awful.
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On September 17 2014 05:54 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2014 05:52 justanothertownie wrote:On September 17 2014 05:50 Hopeless1der wrote:On September 17 2014 05:49 justanothertownie wrote:On September 17 2014 05:48 Hopeless1der wrote:On September 17 2014 05:47 justanothertownie wrote:On September 17 2014 05:45 Hopeless1der wrote:On September 17 2014 05:43 justanothertownie wrote:
Palmar not policy lynching a miller IS weird. Last time we mislynched him day1 because he was so insistent and didn't want to consider anything else. wait so palmar can learn to put self preservation above personal beliefs? Not sure I buy this... Huh? basically what marv is arguing with palmar about. In palmar's world view, millers ALWAYS 100% get the lynch. I know that?! and THIS game...Palmar just doesnt care to lynch the miller claim? ergo people are up in arms about it. I know that too?! Btw.: On October 18 2013 20:47 Palmar wrote:Reposting for format. Mocsta wrote:
(2) Whats the point?
IIRC, your video of "?Hero Mafia?" you went into the theoretical aspects of claiming SAM; and the outcome was to always claim the role as town. The point was to make the right play for town.
(3) What was I hoping to achieve?
I played really bad last game. Really bad. I have also been framed two games in a row (with a cop check). People find me hard to read. I was trying to be open with town and provide information that could help them. Either, policy lynch me; or obtain a read on me by judging my play, not a cop check (as has been the case recently) No, I would never say anything dumb like that. Here is why claiming SAM is incredibly mafia favored. A single cop checking randomly has a 1/22 (24 - himself - lynchee) chance of checking you on night 1, that's 4.5% chance. The chance slowly goes up throughout the game, but only in the absolute far late game does there exist a significant chance a SAM exists. We don't know if there is a SAM in this game. If the setup was open there'd be an argument for claiming, in fact in a completely open game a SAM is a power role. However in a closed setup, there is no point in claiming it. Optimal play would be to simply play well enough so cops wouldn't even think about checking you. The fact that you claimed means for some reason you yourself believe that you will be unable to keep yourself out of the red-ish zone for this game. I'm not sure if this is lack of confidence in your own play, or if this is because you're scum. But I see no reason to play sub-optimally as town. As mafia, the benefits of claiming SAM are amazing, it basically neutralizes the cop against one of your team. You're taking a weapon away from the town. You'll still be analyzed as before, but you can never be attacked as scum through a check. This also means the chance of hitting mafia goes down from 6/22 (27,2%) on the first night to 5/21 (23,8%) for a cop. This benefit becomes even more important if the mafia has a godfather (5/22 to 4/21). So the question remains, why are you afraid of a cop check? There's an entire team of mafia players whose goal is to play towny enough to not get checked, and they have to do it with the burden of knowledge and the inherent scummyness that leads to mafia lynches all the time anyway, a miller would be completely free of those things, and yet doesn't have the balls to avoid a cop check with good play? ##Vote Mocsta Fake.
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On September 17 2014 05:53 IAmRobik wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2014 05:51 Palmar wrote:On September 17 2014 05:50 IAmRobik wrote:
I don't think I'm willing to lynch someone who rayn wants to lynch today. Even if it is scum!plaamammar. If town!rayn wanted us to lynch someone, he wouldn't scream about it like a whiney little girl and he would explain it instead of just screaming wahhhhhh lynch palmmmmmmar wahhhhhhh Tbh, in rayn's defense, I'm giving him nothing to work with. tbh, you might be mafia, you might not be. Rayn trying to get you lynched this way makes him REALLY REALLY scummy. I basically told him what his scum!meta is and he goes ahead and does the exact thing to make him scum? How does he expect to get shit passed if he knows that people are gonna read him as scum for doing this?
Who is reading me scum you fuckfaceidiot?
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On September 17 2014 05:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
marv you literally suck ass if you do not vote for Palmar.
Like those people in that human centipede movie?
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On September 17 2014 05:55 IAmRobik wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2014 05:53 VisceraEyes wrote:On September 17 2014 05:51 IAmRobik wrote:
If we no-lynch today because of indecisive little girls, I'm going to have the mads You live in a constant state of "the mads". Your threats are meaningless. You live in a constant state of "the bads". L2P
Insults from you are even more meaningless. LMAO
Keep donkin, Robik.
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On September 17 2014 05:55 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2014 05:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
marv you literally suck ass if you do not vote for Palmar. Like those people in that human centipede movie?
Best movie
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On September 17 2014 05:55 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2014 05:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
marv you literally suck ass if you do not vote for Palmar. Like those people in that human centipede movie?
just like those.
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On September 17 2014 05:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2014 05:53 IAmRobik wrote:On September 17 2014 05:51 Palmar wrote:On September 17 2014 05:50 IAmRobik wrote:
I don't think I'm willing to lynch someone who rayn wants to lynch today. Even if it is scum!plaamammar. If town!rayn wanted us to lynch someone, he wouldn't scream about it like a whiney little girl and he would explain it instead of just screaming wahhhhhh lynch palmmmmmmar wahhhhhhh Tbh, in rayn's defense, I'm giving him nothing to work with. tbh, you might be mafia, you might not be. Rayn trying to get you lynched this way makes him REALLY REALLY scummy. I basically told him what his scum!meta is and he goes ahead and does the exact thing to make him scum? How does he expect to get shit passed if he knows that people are gonna read him as scum for doing this? Who is reading me scum you fuckfaceidiot?
People asked me for your scum meta. Marv agreed with me on it. You copied the exact scum meta I described before. How are you going to get your agenda through if people think you're scum based off of the meta that was explained in this thread.
As for who those people are....me (now), Yamato, koshi (maybe), possibly others. IDK Those are the ones that seemed to express those sentiments
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On September 17 2014 05:56 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2014 05:55 IAmRobik wrote:On September 17 2014 05:53 VisceraEyes wrote:On September 17 2014 05:51 IAmRobik wrote:
If we no-lynch today because of indecisive little girls, I'm going to have the mads You live in a constant state of "the mads". Your threats are meaningless. You live in a constant state of "the bads". L2P Insults from you are even more meaningless. LMAO Keep donkin, Robik.
as meaningless as your play in every mafia game ever.
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On September 17 2014 05:57 IAmRobik wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2014 05:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 17 2014 05:53 IAmRobik wrote:On September 17 2014 05:51 Palmar wrote:On September 17 2014 05:50 IAmRobik wrote:
I don't think I'm willing to lynch someone who rayn wants to lynch today. Even if it is scum!plaamammar. If town!rayn wanted us to lynch someone, he wouldn't scream about it like a whiney little girl and he would explain it instead of just screaming wahhhhhh lynch palmmmmmmar wahhhhhhh Tbh, in rayn's defense, I'm giving him nothing to work with. tbh, you might be mafia, you might not be. Rayn trying to get you lynched this way makes him REALLY REALLY scummy. I basically told him what his scum!meta is and he goes ahead and does the exact thing to make him scum? How does he expect to get shit passed if he knows that people are gonna read him as scum for doing this? Who is reading me scum you fuckfaceidiot? People asked me for your scum meta. Marv agreed with me on it. You copied the exact scum meta I described before. How are you going to get your agenda through if people think you're scum based off of the meta that was explained in this thread. As for who those people are....me (now), Yamato, koshi (maybe), possibly others. IDK Those are the ones that seemed to express those sentiments
Because no one believes your shitty meta reads and doesn't care what you say rayn does as mafia?
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HOW INDEED!?!?!?!?
AMAGHAA DI MUST MAKE MYX SD*ucM META WORK BRBRBRBRRBRB!!!!
fuck you are dumb as fuck robik.
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ED who took the cookies from the cookie jar? Was it Glowingbear?
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On September 17 2014 05:58 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2014 05:57 IAmRobik wrote:On September 17 2014 05:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 17 2014 05:53 IAmRobik wrote:On September 17 2014 05:51 Palmar wrote:On September 17 2014 05:50 IAmRobik wrote:
I don't think I'm willing to lynch someone who rayn wants to lynch today. Even if it is scum!plaamammar. If town!rayn wanted us to lynch someone, he wouldn't scream about it like a whiney little girl and he would explain it instead of just screaming wahhhhhh lynch palmmmmmmar wahhhhhhh Tbh, in rayn's defense, I'm giving him nothing to work with. tbh, you might be mafia, you might not be. Rayn trying to get you lynched this way makes him REALLY REALLY scummy. I basically told him what his scum!meta is and he goes ahead and does the exact thing to make him scum? How does he expect to get shit passed if he knows that people are gonna read him as scum for doing this? Who is reading me scum you fuckfaceidiot? People asked me for your scum meta. Marv agreed with me on it. You copied the exact scum meta I described before. How are you going to get your agenda through if people think you're scum based off of the meta that was explained in this thread. As for who those people are....me (now), Yamato, koshi (maybe), possibly others. IDK Those are the ones that seemed to express those sentiments Because no one believes your shitty meta reads and doesn't care what you say rayn does as mafia?
Ok, well marv agreed with me. And they were right in the game where you proceeded to give him ZJs all day erry' day. Man, if only I could model my play after yours and lose every fucking game ever
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On September 17 2014 05:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
HOW INDEED!?!?!?!?
AMAGHAA DI MUST MAKE MYX SD*ucM META WORK BRBRBRBRRBRB!!!!
fuck you are dumb as fuck robik.
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Holy shit this day1 is awful.
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@ryan if you keep posting in caps, i might switch to palmar
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