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geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
September 12 2014 04:56 GMT
#1661
Thinking out loud... Scum team options:
Ritoky + 2 This means 5-3 and Koshi/Robik/Oats would've been the exorcist. Lylo
Ritoky +1 +Koshi/Oats This means 6-2, not Lylo
Ritoky +0 +2/3 of Koshi/Oats/Robik Pretty unlikely as it'd be both Koshi/Oats most likely
HaruRH +Damdred +1 This means 5-3 and Koshi/Robik/Oats would've been the Exorcist. Lylo
HaruRH +Damdred +Koshi/Robik/Oats This means 6-2, not Lylo

Idk. I don't think there are clear cut probable teams of 3 for either side.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
September 12 2014 04:57 GMT
#1662
Damdred could you explain your approach to your claim today? I think I have an alignment lean based on something you did, and want to know your thought process in how you approached it.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
September 12 2014 04:58 GMT
#1663
On September 12 2014 13:41 yamato77 wrote:
Why would we want haru to claim?

I was thinking there could only be 2 mafia but there still could be 3. It could help us decipher if ritoky is lying and end the game faster if there are only 2.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
September 12 2014 05:01 GMT
#1664
To be honest I was worried my check wouldn't get counted I almost missed the window due to technical difficulties. However, I was at work when I received the check. I'll be honest I was a bit over eager and just wanted to get it out in the open as fast as possible. All I cared about was getting out there that he was scum, even if I looked foolish
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
September 12 2014 05:07 GMT
#1665
Yea no one claim anything I'm sure we can figure this out without resorting to that.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
September 12 2014 05:15 GMT
#1666
My time is up tonight. I'll answer whatever you guys want but I need sleep.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
September 12 2014 05:19 GMT
#1667
On September 12 2014 09:20 ritoky wrote:
right because even though i was scum reading syl all game, do you notice the part where he never scum reads me a single time? i wonder what that was about. oh maybe because i am the inquisitor. nice try with your desperation fake claim.

This bothers me a lot. On D2 ritoky was all about shutting down Syl's claim and a big part of it was on the point that Syl claimed not to have read his PM concerning the information of the inquisitor. And yet he uses Syl's stance as a means of defending himself. Ugh... trying to figure out if it's scum motive or town mistake.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
September 12 2014 05:20 GMT
#1668
On September 12 2014 14:15 Damdred wrote:
My time is up tonight. I'll answer whatever you guys want but I need sleep.

I think the best thing we can get right now is a thorough explanation of your cop choices.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
September 12 2014 05:21 GMT
#1669
On September 09 2014 16:28 Sylencia wrote:
LM: Voting for the person I find my personal top scum read especially early on the day is in no way scummy - sloosh is 2nd on my list but I've been saying it since yesterday that I find geript to be the most scummy. If sloosh is worse in other's eyes and people want him dead, naturally I'm willing to switch.

Anyways if you guys are going to vote for me I can very easily claim, since I'd rather take the bullet tonight than have a better role die, and if I do survive it's still a win for town considering it's still more or less a confirmed townie. In addition, because of the fact the necromancer only knowing of the role of someone still alive, it'd be impossible to fake claim the role which was discovered because that person is still alive and able to CC.

Rayn: will respond to you when i get home, since I'm leaving work now

Notable: Damdred is removed from his semi scummy reads.

On September 08 2014 23:18 Sylencia wrote:
Hit, he (geript) pushed for gobble fairly hard with a big post, but looks like he gave up and sheeped onto the Damdred train.

He had made a post about me being scummy, but when it came time for him to trade he decided between Damdred and I somehow a single post about potential buddying meant Damdred was better lynch choice.

Knows Damdred is town and thinks I'm mafia for trying to lynch town.

On September 09 2014 22:50 Sylencia wrote:
Damdred you never gave me a list of scum reads I believe, the only person I can see from your filter is sloosh (in terms of suspects) who else is scum?

Looking for red checks?

On September 10 2014 12:54 Sylencia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2014 06:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Koshi, sloosh and geript


now there's someone with some sense

Show nested quote +
On September 10 2014 11:14 ritoky wrote:
On September 10 2014 11:06 Damdred wrote:
I think syl claim is real so no won't vote him.



then please address geript's post.


The only way you could ever address geript's post about "it is impossible to not read the PM" is if you could see my PM. As far as I can see, my PM is the only role in the game that would have extra information attached to it, and so whether or not you choose to believe the fact I could avoid the extra information or not is up to you.

I just find it amusing how geript pushes for my lynch still, and i find it disappointing that you're taking the bait ritoky

Selectively trying to talk to ritoky?
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
September 12 2014 05:22 GMT
#1670
I need to read ritoky again. But I think that ritoky should've figured not to push Syl so hard if he were town.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
September 12 2014 05:25 GMT
#1671
Surface facts is that the first thing that happened in the day is Damdred claimed a red check on ritoky. And ritoky just happens to be the cop.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
September 12 2014 05:32 GMT
#1672
I find it really weird that ritoky didn't try to do anything on the sly to talk to Sylencia.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
September 12 2014 05:32 GMT
#1673
Sure this was my thought process for who I chose.

N1: Rayn, I gave a meta read on rayn and I did not see a huge amount of the normal town tayn in his filter at the time. I was voting on him and I thought there was a good chance that he could be scum based on those things. However I was mistaken and he's thankfully town.

n2: This was the hard night for me I had three choices in my mind and even had one of them types out before I chose rit. I was torn between checking rit, gerip and lm. Lm felt weird because of a few reads but I did not seriously consider checking. I almost checked gerip because of the pressure he was under and everyone was saying. However the eod thread led me to put him on hold.

Rit had my attention because he did not seem his normal self in the thread. There were several times he was hostile in my mind for example the counterclaim questions. He's usually not quite as short with people in my experience. His akowledged only lyching syl today, but several times being happy to kill me or in the ends oats. He just did not seem to be really scum hunting in the thread rather he was discrediting people. And that is why I wanted to check him over the otgers
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 12 2014 05:35 GMT
#1674
the situation breaks down like this:

either dam/haru are mafia, and they used demon to know that the cop (ritoky) was going to check haru and thus had to fakeclaim

or

ritoky is mafia and has CC'd in desperation
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 12 2014 05:37 GMT
#1675
the syl kill heavily implies a planned cop fakeclaim, a la scenario 1
Writer@WriterYamato
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
September 12 2014 05:39 GMT
#1676
Ritoky did bounce off of Syl after Syl's comment but it was p75 and Syl was a highly unlikely lynch at that point.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
September 12 2014 05:42 GMT
#1677
On September 12 2014 14:37 yamato77 wrote:
the syl kill heavily implies a planned cop fakeclaim, a la scenario 1

I'm not sure on that. I think Syl probably has to die regardless if he's claimed and isn't going to be lynched. It gives potential for a fake claim prep for sure though. Is Damdred likely to essentially prepare a breadcrumb if he's mafia though. I'm not so sure of that.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
September 12 2014 05:46 GMT
#1678
I'd assume the Demon results get posted in the witch QT. So that really goes both ways especially if they only have 1 Demon result on N2 as the Inquisitor has to be alive.
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
September 12 2014 05:51 GMT
#1679
On September 12 2014 09:01 ritoky wrote:
well this guy is softing my role pretty hard anywayz, and if he hard claims it then it is gg, win for town. it's worth coming out anywayz since i have a red check independent of the guy fake-claiming a red check on me.

i am the inquisitor, on night 1 i investigated geript and he is green, on night 2 i investigated HaruRH and he is RED.

we didn't get a shot last night, which means that either koshi/oats was confirmed mafia or one of them was exorcist. Damdred is faking a red check on me it seems, which would make him confirmed mafia, and haru as another mafia. if we got one in oats/koshi then it's a wrap unless the remaining one after the lynch today soup chains us all.

i checked geript because i read robik as town and they were butting heads hardcore. he turned up green and you will plainly see me sheeping and calling geript town nonstop yesterday.

i didn't think syl was my acolyte, i was wrong. i flipped shit and almost lynched him because his play was so atrocious that i couldn't believe he could possibly be my acolyte; and even if he was he could have bread crumbed to me. luckily he didn't do it enough to warrant me getting souped before i got off a red check.

i checked haru because i didn't like his burst of activity only when accused of being mafia, and i wanted to start narrowing down the lurkers in the game. turns out one of them was mafia.

lynch damdred and haru in any order and we win the game.

i was tempted to come out yesterday as well when damdred did the same thing softing my role when he did the "i read rayn's filter and flipped my read"; i wrote it off as a one time thing, then he proceeded to do nothing last phase and softed it again with the exact same line on me. he is fake claiming inquis, lynch him.

if an oracle was on me n1, we can really solve this game as the wraith was on me n1 so we will know if koshi was mafia or not for certain.


i laughed hard when i saw this post.
Since you're forcing me to claim here,

I am the exorcist.

i could not kill yesterday. It meant that either oats or koshi was scum. I was pretty shocked. And because ritoky scumclaimed,

##Vote:ritoky

I knew something was wrong with your play. It certainly wasn't the town|ritoky that i always played with.
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
September 12 2014 05:54 GMT
#1680
Idk I'm really torn. There's lots of little things that bother me. Like why did Damdred bring up Syl "protecting him" on D1. Especially when Syl said he didn't look at who the inquisitor was until later on. That feels fabricated. His check on Rayn isn't bad but I don't really get the ritoky check. Damdred has also felt less towny in general. Conversely, I think ritoky would've been or tried to be more open to an Acolyte claim.
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