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Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
September 06 2014 16:55 GMT
#1301
On September 07 2014 01:53 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2014 01:52 Damdred wrote:
Bats, why was Vivax on Kush instead of me? If he has such a scum read on me, and devoted probably a good 2 pages or more of the thread to why I am scum, why vote Kush over me first.


Cause at the time most people were on him and I wanted a majority driven wagon before it's 1 h pre-lynch.
Which you would know if you read the thread at the time when I voted for him.

Between you and him I don't care who goes first. Scum or scum =scum.


Oh hey, its good to meet you bats!

Wan't it just you who yelled at me for answering for bats?
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
September 06 2014 16:56 GMT
#1302
Vivax why am I certain scum? please help me understand where your head is at, because right now your tunnel is looking quite scummy to me.
Your only reason is "KUSH IS NOtHING LIKE HE WAS IN THESE TWO GAMES"
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22301 Posts
September 06 2014 16:58 GMT
#1303
On September 07 2014 01:55 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2014 01:53 Vivax wrote:
On September 07 2014 01:52 Damdred wrote:
Bats, why was Vivax on Kush instead of me? If he has such a scum read on me, and devoted probably a good 2 pages or more of the thread to why I am scum, why vote Kush over me first.


Cause at the time most people were on him and I wanted a majority driven wagon before it's 1 h pre-lynch.
Which you would know if you read the thread at the time when I voted for him.

Between you and him I don't care who goes first. Scum or scum =scum.


Oh hey, its good to meet you bats!

Wan't it just you who yelled at me for answering for bats?


You can't compare that, I answer for bats cause it's about myself and I can explain it better than bats. You answered for bats with something that was about kita.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22301 Posts
September 06 2014 17:00 GMT
#1304
On September 07 2014 01:56 kushm4sta wrote:
Vivax why am I certain scum? please help me understand where your head is at, because right now your tunnel is looking quite scummy to me.
Your only reason is "KUSH IS NOtHING LIKE HE WAS IN THESE TWO GAMES"


Cause town kush wouldn't spend time thinking and talking about why people scumread him instead of trying to figure out who the scum team is and talking about the stuff he finds interesting.

Just to mention a recent reason.
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
September 06 2014 17:01 GMT
#1305
On September 07 2014 02:00 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2014 01:56 kushm4sta wrote:
Vivax why am I certain scum? please help me understand where your head is at, because right now your tunnel is looking quite scummy to me.
Your only reason is "KUSH IS NOtHING LIKE HE WAS IN THESE TWO GAMES"


Cause town kush wouldn't spend time thinking and talking about why people scumread him instead of trying to figure out who the scum team is and talking about the stuff he finds interesting.

Just to mention a recent reason.


Actually I would because I'm trying to get a read on you, and that involves figuring out the reasoning behind your reads.
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
September 06 2014 17:02 GMT
#1306
I'm back! Catching up now, though it doesn't seem like there is much to catch up on.

On September 07 2014 01:40 batsnacks wrote:
I agree with Vivax Damdred could be scum. It does make me feel uneasy about where my vote is at; none of my town reads are voting with me.


This is the first time you mention Damdred potentially being scum, 115 hours into the game. Have you always felt this way or was there something he did recently that changed him mind.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
September 06 2014 17:03 GMT
#1307
On September 07 2014 01:58 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2014 01:55 Damdred wrote:
On September 07 2014 01:53 Vivax wrote:
On September 07 2014 01:52 Damdred wrote:
Bats, why was Vivax on Kush instead of me? If he has such a scum read on me, and devoted probably a good 2 pages or more of the thread to why I am scum, why vote Kush over me first.


Cause at the time most people were on him and I wanted a majority driven wagon before it's 1 h pre-lynch.
Which you would know if you read the thread at the time when I voted for him.

Between you and him I don't care who goes first. Scum or scum =scum.


Oh hey, its good to meet you bats!

Wan't it just you who yelled at me for answering for bats?


You can't compare that, I answer for bats cause it's about myself and I can explain it better than bats. You answered for bats with something that was about kita.


Your whole case that you presented against me is semantics basically. And it always has been
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22301 Posts
September 06 2014 17:04 GMT
#1308
Cause you don't seem to care much about the game, you talked about a lot of irrelevant stuff in the course of it, and you don't ask the good town kush questions.

You focus more on delivering stuff instead of figuring it out.

And you still didn't townread me. But let's call that a reason only I will probably see as valid.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
September 06 2014 17:04 GMT
#1309
Damdred, its 115 hours into the game and you haven't given a read about batsnacks. Why not?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
September 06 2014 17:07 GMT
#1310
On September 06 2014 13:01 27ninjabunnies wrote:
This mess makes me want to go to bed and just not even look at the thread.

And that's exactly what I'm going to do.

Long shift+ running on 5 hours of sleep in the last 2 nights does not bode well.

I'll post in the morning.


Morning is over and still no posts

You really can't wait until 15 minutes before the deadline to catch up and make a decision. The time window is closing.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
September 06 2014 17:08 GMT
#1311
On September 07 2014 02:04 kitaman27 wrote:
Damdred, its 115 hours into the game and you haven't given a read about batsnacks. Why not?


On September 03 2014 11:38 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2014 11:24 Tehpoofter wrote:
On September 03 2014 11:21 Damdred wrote:
Few questions for you bats:

Why did you initially vote Templar and give no explanation and then unvote him? Did he do something to deserve your unvote?

You also pay attention to 3d posting and conclude that he has sounded that way since before the game started. Do you think that his ideas and reactions are towny in nature? I know you said you thought his apologetic tone wasn't scummy.

I must say bat this is not the normal town Bats i'm used to normally you are pretty crazy, which you showed with your first two posts (what was the first post from btw). But your posts feel really formulaic atm and it worries me.



Hai I have no read on you. What are you reads?

Why aren't you currently sheeping me onto Micchan?


I'll answer the second question first.

Currently, I am nervous about Micchan. He made his initial post (which i pointed out also), that complains about the thread atmosphere which honestly was not bad at the time of his post. I think we were still in setup talk and were startin to move towards actual talk. He did not stay in the thread and help improve the conversation or even say what the mess was. On his return his posts were an excuse and throwing more suspicion onto 3d with no follow up. He has since lurked obviously. This is worrisome to me, but it is not enough for a scum read currently I think. We still have a good many hours left to search for scum and their is just not much to go on in his filter, theres no real meta case to be made as he is a newb or a smurf. And well I really do not like going for low hanging fruit.

The people who I would like to see more out of right now are:

Batsnacks: His entrance to the thread was weird. On his re-entrance he ignored a lot of things that were posted against him, he never even showed interest in answering anything. His posts are really formulaic, right now they are reminding me of Neat and Tidy mafia instead of crazy bats in Cell or Titanic. Also usually hes really spammy, but his postings have been really hit and miss and even though he spared a lot of thoughts to 3d, his only reaction is that an apologetic tone is not scummy. But their are other things in 3ds posts that he could talk about and he does not really draw conclusions from that.

Bunnies: Bunnies is a bit odd to me, a lot of her early filter is a lot of trolling with fluff thrown in. Suddenly she town reads templar and poof and gives little reason for it. Even goes far enough to meta read poof and giving him a town pass for not very good reasons. This is the worrying part to me, Bunnies talks about shooting people over gut feelings and saying that Bats is a third party (hypothetically). Has not returned to the thread yet and responded to why she would want to direct vig at this point to make a kill and push us towards lylo over nothing.

Micchan for the reasons listed above

3D i'm not really sure about yet, he seems awkward which is not alignment indicative but he at least gives his views in the thread and then tries toe xplain himself. So more of a I want to see more of his thoughts.


On September 03 2014 11:59 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2014 11:51 Tehpoofter wrote:
On September 03 2014 11:38 Damdred wrote:
On September 03 2014 11:24 Tehpoofter wrote:
On September 03 2014 11:21 Damdred wrote:
Few questions for you bats:

Why did you initially vote Templar and give no explanation and then unvote him? Did he do something to deserve your unvote?

You also pay attention to 3d posting and conclude that he has sounded that way since before the game started. Do you think that his ideas and reactions are towny in nature? I know you said you thought his apologetic tone wasn't scummy.

I must say bat this is not the normal town Bats i'm used to normally you are pretty crazy, which you showed with your first two posts (what was the first post from btw). But your posts feel really formulaic atm and it worries me.



Hai I have no read on you. What are you reads?

Why aren't you currently sheeping me onto Micchan?


I'll answer the second question first.

Currently, I am nervous about Micchan. He made his initial post (which i pointed out also), that complains about the thread atmosphere which honestly was not bad at the time of his post. I think we were still in setup talk and were startin to move towards actual talk. He did not stay in the thread and help improve the conversation or even say what the mess was. On his return his posts were an excuse and throwing more suspicion onto 3d with no follow up. He has since lurked obviously. This is worrisome to me, but it is not enough for a scum read currently I think. We still have a good many hours left to search for scum and their is just not much to go on in his filter, theres no real meta case to be made as he is a newb or a smurf. And well I really do not like going for low hanging fruit.

The people who I would like to see more out of right now are:

Batsnacks: His entrance to the thread was weird. On his re-entrance he ignored a lot of things that were posted against him, he never even showed interest in answering anything. His posts are really formulaic, right now they are reminding me of Neat and Tidy mafia instead of crazy bats in Cell or Titanic. Also usually hes really spammy, but his postings have been really hit and miss and even though he spared a lot of thoughts to 3d, his only reaction is that an apologetic tone is not scummy. But their are other things in 3ds posts that he could talk about and he does not really draw conclusions from that.

Bunnies: Bunnies is a bit odd to me, a lot of her early filter is a lot of trolling with fluff thrown in. Suddenly she town reads templar and poof and gives little reason for it. Even goes far enough to meta read poof and giving him a town pass for not very good reasons. This is the worrying part to me, Bunnies talks about shooting people over gut feelings and saying that Bats is a third party (hypothetically). Has not returned to the thread yet and responded to why she would want to direct vig at this point to make a kill and push us towards lylo over nothing.

Micchan for the reasons listed above

3D i'm not really sure about yet, he seems awkward which is not alignment indicative but he at least gives his views in the thread and then tries toe xplain himself. So more of a I want to see more of his thoughts.



Getting tired of this "yeah Micchan is being scummy and lurking but naa I don't want to vote him" Why do you think mafia isn't hoping on this lynch if Micchan is town? He is clearly just not trying and would be the easiest of all easy misslynches.


I'm starting to wonder if the mafia goal involves like not voting as there is a bunch of people who haven't even placed a vote as of yet.

I agree with your Bunnies read. I'm not too excited on how she talks about 3d parties and stuff wanting to kill them more than mafia as I think Oats pointed out.

3D Can you describe what you mean by awkward I think I know what you mean but not 100% also why would you bring it up that its a null in your opinion?

Do you have any town reads atm?

Batsnacks in the games you mentioned what alignment was he? I don't think I played in those.


i'll start at the bottom and work my way up

In N&T where his posts were the most formulaic he was mafia. In Titanic and Cell he ws a bit more irrational and hopped about, but he never avoided questions he met everything head on and faught everyone who really wanted to scum read him. He ignored all of that here like he sorta did in N&T.

I have some town leans currently

Well, I mean hes a bit awkward in his posts in that he needs follow up to clarify what he means and the idea behind it. And he draws a lot of attention because of it. I'm worried about him mainly because I do not know his play style and can not look it up. So i'd like to see a bit more to give me a bit more of a concrete read.

Well theres still plenty of time to find a good lynch for today. Especially since this is not an instant majority, we have time to mull our options so no my vote is precious to me and I'll give it out when I think that they are mafia. So quit with the bad pressure to vote him right now.


QUOTE]On September 06 2014 03:17 Damdred wrote:
Right now i'm suffering a bit from OMGUS and my reads are being colored right now,

Vivax: Hes seemed to tunnel pretty much every person he has went after this game. Templar, he said was scummy, bats he said was worth another look. But his vote ended up on someone he said was a plynch and then he peace'd out and went to sleep. He never reallye ven tried to get a wagon going on d1 and he jumped on a plynch As day two draws near he hears Oats wants to lynch people who over explained their votes. Vivax never looks back at the votes really. He jumps on me because of what he says is an over explained vote, but he never pressures the other people on the train who had contradictions in previous statements and where they ended up. He also gives no room for evolution of reads, or gives context for posts, he just looks for things that could be scummy and links them together.

3D: I just keep going back to those last posts he made in D1 and they just look bad. He has a lot of scum reads, and then says its scummy to jump on the hot lynch wagon after lurking but he does the same thing. He does say whatever he is thinking it seems like in d2 but his D1 to me was really scummy and his case on bats fullfilling some mission today is weird to me.

Getting concerened about a couple other people now, I still have bats as scum but the case on him hasn't changed much. Hes really formal and is try hard and formulaic in his posts which look a lot like N&T and Storm 2, even his night 2 postings where he was getting people riled up it fits into his scum meta.
[/QUOTE]

Though a current read i'm not as confident as batscum
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
September 06 2014 17:08 GMT
#1312
Messed up that last quote, but I have talked about batsnacks a good bit kit
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
September 06 2014 17:10 GMT
#1313
Well it's really unlikely that 3d is going to get enough votes by the end of the cycle. Would you switch over to bat?

What do you think about batsnack's sudden vote again you?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
September 06 2014 17:10 GMT
#1314
On September 07 2014 02:04 Vivax wrote:
Cause you don't seem to care much about the game, you talked about a lot of irrelevant stuff in the course of it, and you don't ask the good town kush questions.

You focus more on delivering stuff instead of figuring it out.

And you still didn't townread me. But let's call that a reason only I will probably see as valid.


I like this post because I think the last one comes from a townie point of view. Probably it would be somewhat easy to think of as scum but stil.

But yeah I'm more paranoid of you than I am of other people. Part of the difference is I have less time to read filters this game. But yeah if you are town like I now think you probably are, u should be less sure of your reads cause im definitely town.
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
September 06 2014 17:10 GMT
#1315
On September 07 2014 01:53 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2014 01:52 Damdred wrote:
Bats, why was Vivax on Kush instead of me? If he has such a scum read on me, and devoted probably a good 2 pages or more of the thread to why I am scum, why vote Kush over me first.


Cause at the time most people were on him and I wanted a majority driven wagon before it's 1 h pre-lynch.
Which you would know if you read the thread at the time when I voted for him.

Between you and him I don't care who goes first. Scum or scum =scum.


Vivax if you're scum and you slipped here I'm going to be upset.
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
September 06 2014 17:11 GMT
#1316
##unvote
##vote ninjabunnies

OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
September 06 2014 17:15 GMT
#1317
On September 07 2014 01:31 HaruRH wrote:
batsnacks (1): 3d12, 27ninjabunnies, kushm4sta, kitaman27


Is this vote count correct?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
September 06 2014 17:16 GMT
#1318
On September 07 2014 02:10 kitaman27 wrote:
Well it's really unlikely that 3d is going to get enough votes by the end of the cycle. Would you switch over to bat?

What do you think about batsnack's sudden vote again you?


Kush keeps telling me i'm wrong about 3d, well almost everyone is telling me i'm wrong about 3d. I have to rethink him and reread him in the time I have left.

Bats changed his playstyle day 2, which caused me to doubt my case against him. I'm not sure if he did that because of my case on him or because hes town. The sudden vote worries me because last night he said that I was the man, which normally means hes town reading me but the sudden switch makes me conflicted.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22301 Posts
September 06 2014 17:17 GMT
#1319
Damdred is this a formulaic bats or a crazy bats in your opinion.
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
September 06 2014 17:17 GMT
#1320
why are people townreading nb? i think she's a good vote.
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
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