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On September 07 2014 01:30 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2014 01:25 3d12 wrote:On September 07 2014 01:23 HaruRH wrote:On September 07 2014 01:08 3d12 wrote:On September 07 2014 00:59 3d12 wrote:On September 07 2014 00:52 batsnacks wrote:On September 07 2014 00:34 3d12 wrote:On September 07 2014 00:26 Damdred wrote:
##Vote: 3d12
I think your scummy vivax, but 3d ignoring a ton of posts from poof and other people calling him scummy. Hes been doing it all game, with nb, with poof and with me. He has not interacted with the claims that hes scum hes just let people fight for his towniness without actually fighting himself. Well, good morning to you too! I haven't been ignoring the posts. I actually think poofter is pretty scummy too, but I don't have my notes with me to type up my case. I could maybe reconstruct the case from his posts, but I would need coffee first. As for right now, I'm still catching up. Might take a break to get coffee, ease the process along. If you have any opinions/answers you want, post. I'll respond to whatever relevant ones I find, but idk if you're looking for a particular repsonse over others. I'm always super suspicious when people say they've made hand written notes about the game. Why would anyone do that? You need a computer to play, why not use a word processor so you can copy paste? So my reason for posting right now is I don't believe your lame "don't have my notes can't post what I want" excuse. That's nice. At my job, they fire people who plug removable storage media into the computers and the firewall blocks google docs. So if I want to be able to access my notes at work, they have to be on paper. And why use a word processor when my notes are just +'s and -'s with short reasons and post #'s? Also, this is just a silly post coming from "I have a case built in notepad but don't want to show you" guy. That's even more suspect than my "I have notes, but I cba to go across town to get them" post. How did your mission go? Actually, that reminds me. I was going to test this yesterday when I posted my theory about batsnacks. ##unvote##Vote: batsnacks##unvote##Vote: kitaman27##unvote##Vote: Oatsmaster##unvote##Vote: Tehpoofter##unvote##Vote: Vivax##unvote##Vote: kushm4sta##unvote##Vote: ObiWanShinobi##unvote##Vote: mderg##unvote##Vote: 27ninjabunnies##unvote##Vote: Micchan##unvote##Vote: Damdred##unvote##Vote: The_Templar##unvote##Vote: 3d12##unvoteIf everything goes as planned, I will not be warned and bat will be lynched. If I receive a mod warning, I'm willing to read bat as null again, since my case was admittedly weak and based only on structural meta. Last warning, one more of this and you will be modkilled.
Also, anyone trying to use mod warnings as a read is dumb since we warn both town and scum and will not hesitate to kill either. Even in lylo. Thank you for clarifying, Haru. Well bat, looks like you were just being a trolly asshole after all. Glad we figured that out. ##Vote: kushm4staSo, about this mderg wagon... Also I don't see how you come to the conclusion that bats is in any way confirmed town through what happened just now. He can still be mafia, it's just that the hosts won't allow you to figure him out that way.
3d12 should still be scum reading me even though his experiment failed. I have switched votes a lot today with or without the spam. He thinks switching votes was my mission, he voted me because he thought that was my mission and that I "cheesed" it with my spam post.
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ebwop: I mean, saying that maybe makes me look bad, but I'm hoping it makes 3d12 look worse. I have voted for more than half the players remaining in the game today even without my spam.
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I am 100% fine with lynching 3d today, I feel like my vote is on scum and he is doing nothing to dissuade me. He also hasn't even looked at poofs posts it seems where he wanted to pressure him.
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On September 07 2014 00:58 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2014 00:55 Vivax wrote:On September 04 2014 02:35 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Batsnacks, aside from the possibility that kita could have a mission to vote with the majority, what reason do you think he's scum? Are his posts inherently scummy enough to make you think that he's actually mafia or is it just the possibility of him promoting a mission?
Just promoting a possible mission isn't enough. If missions weren't a thing, what else about him would be scummy? This? So you were finding reasons for batsnacks to scumread kita, found it the best reason, then immediately argued for it being actually something a townie would do? I saw obis question, I reread bats post. It was the only thing that could look scummy at that time in what he listed and I pointed it out and thought why town would struggle with it.
This is also why you're scum.
You were constantly on the fence with bats before, avoiding to give a more decisive opinion on him, always treading between agreeing and being indecisive when poofter questioned you.
When obi talks about him, you felt compelled to reply for bats...
Why would you do that?
Obi wonders what reasons bats has to suspect kita.
You feel like chiming in, and find the best reason bats has to display and then disagree with it.
WHY? It just doesn't make any fucking sense from a town perspective. Your objective as town would be to find scum, not...Answering for bats, then disagreeing with him and townreading kita, who you recently called scummy for a bunch of other stuff.
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Hahahaha
3d scum????
After that stunt???
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On September 07 2014 01:36 Damdred wrote:
I am 100% fine with lynching 3d today, I feel like my vote is on scum and he is doing nothing to dissuade me. He also hasn't even looked at poofs posts it seems where he wanted to pressure him.
but dont you think it's usually town who comes up with retarded theories like that?
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I agree with Vivax Damdred could be scum. It does make me feel uneasy about where my vote is at; none of my town reads are voting with me.
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On September 07 2014 01:32 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2014 01:30 Vivax wrote:On September 07 2014 01:25 3d12 wrote:On September 07 2014 01:23 HaruRH wrote:On September 07 2014 01:08 3d12 wrote:On September 07 2014 00:59 3d12 wrote:On September 07 2014 00:52 batsnacks wrote:On September 07 2014 00:34 3d12 wrote:On September 07 2014 00:26 Damdred wrote:
##Vote: 3d12
I think your scummy vivax, but 3d ignoring a ton of posts from poof and other people calling him scummy. Hes been doing it all game, with nb, with poof and with me. He has not interacted with the claims that hes scum hes just let people fight for his towniness without actually fighting himself. Well, good morning to you too! I haven't been ignoring the posts. I actually think poofter is pretty scummy too, but I don't have my notes with me to type up my case. I could maybe reconstruct the case from his posts, but I would need coffee first. As for right now, I'm still catching up. Might take a break to get coffee, ease the process along. If you have any opinions/answers you want, post. I'll respond to whatever relevant ones I find, but idk if you're looking for a particular repsonse over others. I'm always super suspicious when people say they've made hand written notes about the game. Why would anyone do that? You need a computer to play, why not use a word processor so you can copy paste? So my reason for posting right now is I don't believe your lame "don't have my notes can't post what I want" excuse. That's nice. At my job, they fire people who plug removable storage media into the computers and the firewall blocks google docs. So if I want to be able to access my notes at work, they have to be on paper. And why use a word processor when my notes are just +'s and -'s with short reasons and post #'s? Also, this is just a silly post coming from "I have a case built in notepad but don't want to show you" guy. That's even more suspect than my "I have notes, but I cba to go across town to get them" post. How did your mission go? Actually, that reminds me. I was going to test this yesterday when I posted my theory about batsnacks. ##unvote##Vote: batsnacks##unvote##Vote: kitaman27##unvote##Vote: Oatsmaster##unvote##Vote: Tehpoofter##unvote##Vote: Vivax##unvote##Vote: kushm4sta##unvote##Vote: ObiWanShinobi##unvote##Vote: mderg##unvote##Vote: 27ninjabunnies##unvote##Vote: Micchan##unvote##Vote: Damdred##unvote##Vote: The_Templar##unvote##Vote: 3d12##unvoteIf everything goes as planned, I will not be warned and bat will be lynched. If I receive a mod warning, I'm willing to read bat as null again, since my case was admittedly weak and based only on structural meta. Last warning, one more of this and you will be modkilled.
Also, anyone trying to use mod warnings as a read is dumb since we warn both town and scum and will not hesitate to kill either. Even in lylo. Thank you for clarifying, Haru. Well bat, looks like you were just being a trolly asshole after all. Glad we figured that out. ##Vote: kushm4staSo, about this mderg wagon... Also I don't see how you come to the conclusion that bats is in any way confirmed town through what happened just now. He can still be mafia, it's just that the hosts won't allow you to figure him out that way. 3d12 should still be scum reading me even though his experiment failed. I have switched votes a lot today with or without the spam. He thinks switching votes was my mission, he voted me because he thought that was my mission and that I "cheesed" it with my spam post.
Why did you say that you broke the game for the host.
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On September 07 2014 01:38 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2014 00:58 Damdred wrote:On September 07 2014 00:55 Vivax wrote:On September 04 2014 02:35 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Batsnacks, aside from the possibility that kita could have a mission to vote with the majority, what reason do you think he's scum? Are his posts inherently scummy enough to make you think that he's actually mafia or is it just the possibility of him promoting a mission?
Just promoting a possible mission isn't enough. If missions weren't a thing, what else about him would be scummy? This? So you were finding reasons for batsnacks to scumread kita, found it the best reason, then immediately argued for it being actually something a townie would do? I saw obis question, I reread bats post. It was the only thing that could look scummy at that time in what he listed and I pointed it out and thought why town would struggle with it. This is also why you're scum. You were constantly on the fence with bats before, avoiding to give a more decisive opinion on him, always treading between agreeing and being indecisive when poofter questioned you. When obi talks about him, you felt compelled to reply for bats... Why would you do that? Obi wonders what reasons bats has to suspect kita. You feel like chiming in, and find the best reason bats has to display and then disagree with it. WHY? It just doesn't make any fucking sense from a town perspective. Your objective as town would be to find scum, not...Answering for bats, then disagreeing with him and townreading kita, who you recently called scummy for a bunch of other stuff.
I said a few times in the thread before that, that I thought bats was scummy. I even had a small little meta case on him, why are you trying to misrepresent what i've done again vivax?
I saw something I wanted to post about and give an opinion and I did.
And it's called read evolution as the thread goes on reads change as you get more posts on people and you see more patterns and what not. Unlike how you are acting right now, I realize that I can be wrong and my reads can and should change on that.
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On September 07 2014 01:40 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2014 01:32 batsnacks wrote:On September 07 2014 01:30 Vivax wrote:On September 07 2014 01:25 3d12 wrote:On September 07 2014 01:23 HaruRH wrote:On September 07 2014 01:08 3d12 wrote:On September 07 2014 00:59 3d12 wrote:On September 07 2014 00:52 batsnacks wrote:On September 07 2014 00:34 3d12 wrote:On September 07 2014 00:26 Damdred wrote:
##Vote: 3d12
I think your scummy vivax, but 3d ignoring a ton of posts from poof and other people calling him scummy. Hes been doing it all game, with nb, with poof and with me. He has not interacted with the claims that hes scum hes just let people fight for his towniness without actually fighting himself. Well, good morning to you too! I haven't been ignoring the posts. I actually think poofter is pretty scummy too, but I don't have my notes with me to type up my case. I could maybe reconstruct the case from his posts, but I would need coffee first. As for right now, I'm still catching up. Might take a break to get coffee, ease the process along. If you have any opinions/answers you want, post. I'll respond to whatever relevant ones I find, but idk if you're looking for a particular repsonse over others. I'm always super suspicious when people say they've made hand written notes about the game. Why would anyone do that? You need a computer to play, why not use a word processor so you can copy paste? So my reason for posting right now is I don't believe your lame "don't have my notes can't post what I want" excuse. That's nice. At my job, they fire people who plug removable storage media into the computers and the firewall blocks google docs. So if I want to be able to access my notes at work, they have to be on paper. And why use a word processor when my notes are just +'s and -'s with short reasons and post #'s? Also, this is just a silly post coming from "I have a case built in notepad but don't want to show you" guy. That's even more suspect than my "I have notes, but I cba to go across town to get them" post. How did your mission go? Actually, that reminds me. I was going to test this yesterday when I posted my theory about batsnacks. ##unvote##Vote: batsnacks##unvote##Vote: kitaman27##unvote##Vote: Oatsmaster##unvote##Vote: Tehpoofter##unvote##Vote: Vivax##unvote##Vote: kushm4sta##unvote##Vote: ObiWanShinobi##unvote##Vote: mderg##unvote##Vote: 27ninjabunnies##unvote##Vote: Micchan##unvote##Vote: Damdred##unvote##Vote: The_Templar##unvote##Vote: 3d12##unvoteIf everything goes as planned, I will not be warned and bat will be lynched. If I receive a mod warning, I'm willing to read bat as null again, since my case was admittedly weak and based only on structural meta. Last warning, one more of this and you will be modkilled.
Also, anyone trying to use mod warnings as a read is dumb since we warn both town and scum and will not hesitate to kill either. Even in lylo. Thank you for clarifying, Haru. Well bat, looks like you were just being a trolly asshole after all. Glad we figured that out. ##Vote: kushm4staSo, about this mderg wagon... Also I don't see how you come to the conclusion that bats is in any way confirmed town through what happened just now. He can still be mafia, it's just that the hosts won't allow you to figure him out that way. 3d12 should still be scum reading me even though his experiment failed. I have switched votes a lot today with or without the spam. He thinks switching votes was my mission, he voted me because he thought that was my mission and that I "cheesed" it with my spam post. Why did you say that you broke the game for the host.
Because I was irritated, and the host disappeared.
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On September 07 2014 01:40 batsnacks wrote:
I agree with Vivax Damdred could be scum. It does make me feel uneasy about where my vote is at; none of my town reads are voting with me.
Then vote for him.
No one with 3d's balls at finding scum with such a plan could be scum.
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On September 07 2014 01:46 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2014 01:40 batsnacks wrote:
I agree with Vivax Damdred could be scum. It does make me feel uneasy about where my vote is at; none of my town reads are voting with me. Then vote for him. No one with 3d's balls at finding scum with such a plan could be scum.
Switch with me?
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On September 07 2014 01:39 kushm4sta wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2014 01:36 Damdred wrote:
I am 100% fine with lynching 3d today, I feel like my vote is on scum and he is doing nothing to dissuade me. He also hasn't even looked at poofs posts it seems where he wanted to pressure him. but dont you think it's usually town who comes up with retarded theories like that?
Retarded theory aside, which yes town is usuall the ones who come up with that. He still vanishes for long perios of time, especially after people fight pressure for him. Ignores the pressures put on b poof, attacks kush for his non activity when hes guilty of the same. And hopped on that lynch of mic when he said scum lurks and jumps on that.
Am i wrong kusH?
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On September 07 2014 01:47 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2014 01:46 Vivax wrote:On September 07 2014 01:40 batsnacks wrote:
I agree with Vivax Damdred could be scum. It does make me feel uneasy about where my vote is at; none of my town reads are voting with me. Then vote for him. No one with 3d's balls at finding scum with such a plan could be scum. Switch with me?
Sure, do you want to hold hands too?
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On September 07 2014 01:49 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2014 01:47 batsnacks wrote:On September 07 2014 01:46 Vivax wrote:On September 07 2014 01:40 batsnacks wrote:
I agree with Vivax Damdred could be scum. It does make me feel uneasy about where my vote is at; none of my town reads are voting with me. Then vote for him. No one with 3d's balls at finding scum with such a plan could be scum. Switch with me? Sure, do you want to hold hands too?
Not while everyone is watching.
##unvote
##vote: Damdred
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Bats, why was Vivax on Kush instead of me? If he has such a scum read on me, and devoted probably a good 2 pages or more of the thread to why I am scum, why vote Kush over me first.
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On September 07 2014 01:30 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2014 01:25 3d12 wrote:On September 07 2014 01:23 HaruRH wrote:On September 07 2014 01:08 3d12 wrote:On September 07 2014 00:59 3d12 wrote:On September 07 2014 00:52 batsnacks wrote:On September 07 2014 00:34 3d12 wrote:On September 07 2014 00:26 Damdred wrote:
##Vote: 3d12
I think your scummy vivax, but 3d ignoring a ton of posts from poof and other people calling him scummy. Hes been doing it all game, with nb, with poof and with me. He has not interacted with the claims that hes scum hes just let people fight for his towniness without actually fighting himself. Well, good morning to you too! I haven't been ignoring the posts. I actually think poofter is pretty scummy too, but I don't have my notes with me to type up my case. I could maybe reconstruct the case from his posts, but I would need coffee first. As for right now, I'm still catching up. Might take a break to get coffee, ease the process along. If you have any opinions/answers you want, post. I'll respond to whatever relevant ones I find, but idk if you're looking for a particular repsonse over others. I'm always super suspicious when people say they've made hand written notes about the game. Why would anyone do that? You need a computer to play, why not use a word processor so you can copy paste? So my reason for posting right now is I don't believe your lame "don't have my notes can't post what I want" excuse. That's nice. At my job, they fire people who plug removable storage media into the computers and the firewall blocks google docs. So if I want to be able to access my notes at work, they have to be on paper. And why use a word processor when my notes are just +'s and -'s with short reasons and post #'s? Also, this is just a silly post coming from "I have a case built in notepad but don't want to show you" guy. That's even more suspect than my "I have notes, but I cba to go across town to get them" post. How did your mission go? Actually, that reminds me. I was going to test this yesterday when I posted my theory about batsnacks. ##unvote##Vote: batsnacks##unvote##Vote: kitaman27##unvote##Vote: Oatsmaster##unvote##Vote: Tehpoofter##unvote##Vote: Vivax##unvote##Vote: kushm4sta##unvote##Vote: ObiWanShinobi##unvote##Vote: mderg##unvote##Vote: 27ninjabunnies##unvote##Vote: Micchan##unvote##Vote: Damdred##unvote##Vote: The_Templar##unvote##Vote: 3d12##unvoteIf everything goes as planned, I will not be warned and bat will be lynched. If I receive a mod warning, I'm willing to read bat as null again, since my case was admittedly weak and based only on structural meta. Last warning, one more of this and you will be modkilled.
Also, anyone trying to use mod warnings as a read is dumb since we warn both town and scum and will not hesitate to kill either. Even in lylo. Thank you for clarifying, Haru. Well bat, looks like you were just being a trolly asshole after all. Glad we figured that out. ##Vote: kushm4staSo, about this mderg wagon... Also I don't see how you come to the conclusion that bats is in any way confirmed town through what happened just now. He can still be mafia, it's just that the hosts won't allow you to figure him out that way.
Sorry, but what? I don't see that conclusion either, probably because it's not there. Why are you trying to put reads in my mouth? Trolly asshole != town.
On September 07 2014 01:28 Vivax wrote:
3d12 what do you think of damdred, or my proposed solution to the game for that matter.
Honestly, I haven't noticed much of damdred. I know he voted me about an hour ago, but as far as his posts go, they're like potato chips: a short burst of greasy flavor that leaves you wanting more. I like his read on kita, since it seems like he's paying attention to how the votes are flowing and reading into the motivations of kita's posting. It does seem like he's rather tunnel visioned on me though, but he could just be sheeping poofter to pressure me into giving answers.
I do agree with your point about congruence surrounding the Micchan vote, though. It seems like he wanted it to seem like he was investigating and coming up with reasons for his choices, particularly between the two bolded portions below:
On September 05 2014 11:48 Vivax wrote:What Damdred wrote here before and after doesn't seem evry congruent to me, he might be scum. Show nested quote +On September 03 2014 11:38 Damdred wrote:On September 03 2014 11:24 Tehpoofter wrote:On September 03 2014 11:21 Damdred wrote:
Few questions for you bats:
Why did you initially vote Templar and give no explanation and then unvote him? Did he do something to deserve your unvote?
You also pay attention to 3d posting and conclude that he has sounded that way since before the game started. Do you think that his ideas and reactions are towny in nature? I know you said you thought his apologetic tone wasn't scummy.
I must say bat this is not the normal town Bats i'm used to normally you are pretty crazy, which you showed with your first two posts (what was the first post from btw). But your posts feel really formulaic atm and it worries me. Hai I have no read on you. What are you reads? Why aren't you currently sheeping me onto Micchan? I'll answer the second question first. Currently, I am nervous about Micchan. He made his initial post (which i pointed out also), that complains about the thread atmosphere which honestly was not bad at the time of his post. I think we were still in setup talk and were startin to move towards actual talk. He did not stay in the thread and help improve the conversation or even say what the mess was. On his return his posts were an excuse and throwing more suspicion onto 3d with no follow up. He has since lurked obviously. This is worrisome to me, but it is not enough for a scum read currently I think. We still have a good many hours left to search for scum and their is just not much to go on in his filter, theres no real meta case to be made as he is a newb or a smurf. And well I really do not like going for low hanging fruit. The people who I would like to see more out of right now are: -snip- Show nested quote +On September 04 2014 03:04 Damdred wrote:
##Vote:Micchan
Theres a few things that have led me to this vote. The first being in the way that his posts have gone about. He casually threw more accusations at 3d when pressure on him was the highest. He complained about the thread but never tried to fix it, gave excuses why he did not post yesterday and never posted again. All he has done is lurk, and while lurking is not scummy his play and posts look and feel scummy to me. A couple games ago I got into a situation that was similar in arnie and I let GB slide doing somewhat the same things and I don't want to make that mistake again by letting someone go whos to scummy to be scum.
These posts are just about twelve hours apart, and with no further posts from Micchan since. I understand that Damdred prefers to hold his vote to get more information, but since he is claiming he had multiple scum reads at the end of D1, I'm not sure why he sheeped so hard onto the Micchan wagon and then failed to provide any real reason for the evolution of his read. I understand that the "lurker scum" situation happened in a previous game, but player/forum meta means 0% to me as this is my first game here. If you think that's a valid reason to move from "not enough for a scum read currently" to a vote in ~12 hours, I'd like to hear why.
Also, not sure what you mean by your "solution to the game," but did you see this post I made during N1? What do you think of this idea?
On September 04 2014 13:36 3d12 wrote:
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An idea I had in the shower earlier would be to have each person pick someone who will decide their vote for them. That way, if mafia are forced to vote a certain way, anyone who disobeys the "town meta" will stick out.
It's another shot in the dark, but since it's nighttime anyway, why not. It's been a while since the topic of missions was brought up. So far I see a few ways they could have affected the gameplay, as in my post to batsnacks, but nothing too solid. Any thoughts?
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On September 07 2014 01:52 Damdred wrote:
Bats, why was Vivax on Kush instead of me? If he has such a scum read on me, and devoted probably a good 2 pages or more of the thread to why I am scum, why vote Kush over me first.
Cause at the time most people were on him and I wanted a majority driven wagon before it's 1 h pre-lynch.
Which you would know if you read the thread at the time when I voted for him.
Between you and him I don't care who goes first. Scum or scum =scum.
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On September 07 2014 01:47 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2014 01:39 kushm4sta wrote:On September 07 2014 01:36 Damdred wrote:
I am 100% fine with lynching 3d today, I feel like my vote is on scum and he is doing nothing to dissuade me. He also hasn't even looked at poofs posts it seems where he wanted to pressure him. but dont you think it's usually town who comes up with retarded theories like that? Retarded theory aside, which yes town is usuall the ones who come up with that. He still vanishes for long perios of time, especially after people fight pressure for him. Ignores the pressures put on b poof, attacks kush for his non activity when hes guilty of the same. And hopped on that lynch of mic when he said scum lurks and jumps on that. Am i wrong kusH?
You're not wrong, but a lot of those things aren't necessary scummy.
Townies can be hypocrites.
Real life shit or boredom or disinterest could cause long periods of afk.
And it's hard to accuse someone of ignoring someone when it's possible that a lot changed in between their periods of activity, and they forgot or thought it was no longer relevant.
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