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On September 02 2014 12:18 Vivax wrote:
I generally have the feeling that you two have a hard time giving opinions about each other in the thread.
You mean Templar and Kita right?
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On September 02 2014 12:27 Vivax wrote:
I have no issues with Damdred at this point poofter.
Not sure what to make of micchan cause he seems experienced with mafia based on his post but apparently hes no smurf, he posted outside of the mafia subforum which usually isnt allowed for smurfs but reaaaaally not sure.
If I had to guess at a smurf id have guessed at palmar for using a hashtag and being lurky.
There's way not enough for me to scumread him off that however.
I didn't realize it was a not smurf.
I could 100% see palmar doing this.
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On September 02 2014 12:27 The_Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2014 12:22 Vivax wrote:
And I don't see how the post is odd just cause it already has discussed. It's my job to direct the attention to things I find worthy of attention even after the focus has slipped to another location. And it was odd because you said "Let's change the discussion to ___" when we were recently discussing it
That part wasn't odd at all imo.
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On September 02 2014 12:43 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I'm down for a Batsnacks plynch.
##unvote
##vote batsnacks
Shouldn't be posting nonsense in a setup where nonsense could be scum's objective.
yo can you post more than just votes? What else you thinking about bbygirl?
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On September 02 2014 13:02 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2014 12:57 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I don't think anything about her. She hasn't done anything yet to warrant my attention.
Honestly, there's not really a whole lot that stands out to me right now. A lot of people are pushing/talking about convoluted shit that I don't really care about.
I'm really not going to get batsnacks' shitpost out of my head for a while and I'd rather just kill him and be done with it. You're the bbygirl doofus. Also you're a lazy bum if that's your final decision.
hahahaha
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I would love to hear Miccah/batsnacks/damdred say anything useful.
I'm gonna go play video mafia later.
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Good morning everyone!
Sad to see this thread is pretty slow by the looks of it.
Anyone around to chat while I catch up?
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On September 02 2014 17:54 Oatsmaster wrote:
Talking about missions is bad, also dont do it.
Obi, why did you vote for bunnies at the start of the game?
just saw 3d's post, calls out micchan for being quiet, doesnt call me out for not posting at all. Clearly sheeping someone's previous sentiment.
I think you're wrong on point one if someone is allowed to do weird ass things as mafia because people aren't thinking about missions then mafia has an easier time. Plus if we are bringing up the missions and one of us actually gets it right even if we don't catch a mafia immediately from it they still could be very nervous about posting just in general or meeting the mission and it could become more awkward (read easier for us to catch) for them to accomplish it. We might as well talk about something unique to the game it would be like not talking about the cell's in cell mafia or the button in catastrophe.
I don't like the mindset of "ignore the missions" to me its like "Lets just be quiet about something WE KNOW MAFIA IS DOING and let everyone ponder it individually vs collectively"
Your previous post about batsnacks reads from one post is 100% right anyone getting a read off that is silly. As far as I was concerned as of last night batsnacks hadn't posted.
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On September 03 2014 05:38 mderg wrote:
I thought a bit about how to deal with missions. And I came to the conclusion that we should ignore them completely. We have no idea what those missions are, so it's difficult to make them fail.Our time is probably much better spent thinking about the players.
Anyone else thinking that 3d12 is trying hard to get some newbie bonus? I also don't like how a provocative opening instantly makes him townread people.
I didn't like his opening post as he wanted to immediately look away from the missions (something mafia would say I thought but seeing as so far half the thread has said it guess I'm in the minority of town in that aspect) What post is the one hes playing the newbie card?
So your thesis is that the missions shouldn't be on our mind at all. Mafia would freak the hell out if one of their missions got guessed by town even amongst 10-20 other guesses with ways to prevent it because then they STILL have to complete the mission and town now has its eyes out for EXACTLY what they're doing.
Its very speculative but it still is an important part of the game.
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On September 03 2014 05:46 The_Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2014 05:44 mderg wrote:On September 03 2014 05:23 The_Templar wrote:I'm here again for another hour, as I am still working out kinks in my schedule. Sorry for being inconsistent about this. 3d12: On September 02 2014 09:06 3d12 wrote:Thanks Damdred, that was a good explanation. From my RL experience with Mafia, I've found it's usually good to have multiple options at the end of the day like you said, to be able to better piece together who is siding with whom in the long run. I'd say that's a defensible tactic to employ later on, but I'd agree that it serves no purpose in the first few days. Especially when we have no hint whatsoever as to what these missions are. From Templar's post, I think this stuck out to me the most:
And the missions are required for mafia… or they will die. I would say that's better for us anyway
He makes a good point. We're making a witch-hunt out of nothing right now. I think batsnacks is judging reactions and playing provocateur. He looks pretty town from where I'm standing, but I don't have all my chips on the table just yet.  I was initially a bit skeptical upon rereading this but 3d12 has not been too bad since then. He also gave the same read on ObiWan later (a move by kita which I seem to have messed with a bit). On September 02 2014 17:24 3d12 wrote:On September 02 2014 10:33 kitaman27 wrote:On September 02 2014 09:06 3d12 wrote:I think batsnacks is judging reactions and playing provocateur. He looks pretty town from where I'm standing, but I don't have all my chips on the table just yet. I see batsnacks voting templar after a large low quality post, but I don't see how you automatically come to this conclusion that his is town based on his vote and assume he is playing provocative. It makes me suspicious of you and I wonder if you may know he is town and are attempting to come up with an suggestion that explains his play without the information being there. On September 02 2014 03:16 Damdred wrote:
@3d when you return could you talk more about why you think bat is doing that (as in him being provocative etc) and why town bats would just do that and run out of the thread? Feels like you are giving him a pass on it to easily at this point, though I do not think it is beyond town bats to do it either. It wasn't who he voted for, it was how he voted and why. By casting a vote in a random direction, one can sit back and observe how people react to that vote. That's not typically Mafia behavior, though I will admit the long-winded post from earlier had me confused as well. All in all, it's a tough read; but if I had to imagine myself in his position, I wouldn't imagine he'd want to make such a big target out of himself on D1 if he were Mafia. Instead, I'll be focusing on the people using this event and the surrounding discussion to mask their contributions to the investigation at large. And currently exhibit A on my list is kushm4sta. Despite the awesomely understanding acceptance of my newbie ways, we haven't seen much from him aside from jumping on the batwagon and refuting Vivax -- who, in my opinion, is making the most sense out of anyone in this entire thread, myself included. Exhibit B is Micchan, who seems strangely quiet. I hope he hasn't gone AFK. This is a decent post, although I don't entirely agree with it. Mafia would love an excuse or some way to cause chaos and force a mislynch so making a weird off topic post (that hopefully makes them a null read) and random voting could work (although, either possibility is very odd). He didn't really explain his thoughts on vivax/kush very well in this post. But, he did try to clarify his opinions in his next post. On September 03 2014 01:04 3d12 wrote:On September 02 2014 22:26 kushm4sta wrote:On September 02 2014 17:24 3d12 wrote:
And currently exhibit A on my list is kushm4sta. Despite the awesomely understanding acceptance of my newbie ways, we haven't seen much from him aside from jumping on the batwagon and refuting Vivax -- who, in my opinion, is making the most sense out of anyone in this entire thread, myself included. Exhibit B is Micchan, who seems strangely quiet. I hope he hasn't gone AFK. So why am I scum? "jumping on the bandwagon?" not really a bandwagon since there are only two people voting for batsnacks, and I didn't really jump on it cause I was the first vote. "refuting vivax" Why are my refutations scummy? What has vivax said that makes sense? You're right, I thought I saw a third vote for batsnacks. Sorry. I wish there was a neater way to find the current vote count. Is there a program or something that I could use to loop through the thread and count the votes? As for refuting Vivax, I said that because Vivax is the one that I'm getting the most positive read from so far. He's pointed out very good inconsistency between Templar and kita, and even though Templar has made a few good posts to better explain his views, kita's evasiveness is something to be observed more closely, I think. On September 02 2014 22:12 kitaman27 wrote:On September 02 2014 17:24 3d12 wrote:
And currently exhibit A on my list is kushm4sta. Despite the awesomely understanding acceptance of my newbie ways, we haven't seen much from him aside from jumping on the batwagon and refuting Vivax -- who, in my opinion, is making the most sense out of anyone in this entire thread, myself included. Exhibit B is Micchan, who seems strangely quiet. I hope he hasn't gone AFK. How do you feel about obi and poofter so far? Obi is a bit of a mystery, but is starting to look more pink to me. The fact that he was so willing to vote out bat for what was likely a provocation post makes me question his motives, but the fact that he instantly switched his view to Templar after receiving some pressure is a bit more fishy. More data is needed, but the radar is definitely reading slightly pink. Poofter seems alright though; his posts are generally low-content, but unless we revisit the idea of missions involving post count, that's not enough for me to read him as scum. On September 02 2014 17:54 Oatsmaster wrote:
just saw 3d's post, calls out micchan for being quiet, doesnt call me out for not posting at all. Clearly sheeping someone's previous sentiment.
Or anticipating your mod-kill due to 12 hours without post.  Welcome to the game. (And my suspect list, lol) Care to share any opinion on Templar or mderg? I don't like this post, but at least he's giving reasoning on his thoughts on Obi and Poofter. His read on Oatsmaster is very odd if he actually suspects him. (BTW the posting rule is 1 post/1 vote per day/night cycle not 12 hours) On September 03 2014 01:30 3d12 wrote:On September 03 2014 01:11 Damdred wrote:
Actually 3d, why are you ignoring bunnies right now? She has said a couple times that she would be happy to get you out of the game, what do you think of that? Why did you put off commenting on it? Not worth comment, imo. She said herself that her read on me is only a "gut read," and if people are happy with bandwagoning on a gut feeling to have me lynched, I'll happily /obs and laugh as the scum runs away with the game. This is a worthless post that only serves to claim town when he's been very serious all game. He should at least address bunnies, even if it's just to give a read. On September 03 2014 03:07 3d12 wrote:On September 03 2014 02:22 kitaman27 wrote:On September 03 2014 02:21 kitaman27 wrote:On September 02 2014 17:24 3d12 wrote:
Obi is a bit of a mystery, but is starting to look more pink to me. The fact that he was so willing to vote out bat for what was likely a provocation post makes me question his motives, but the fact that he instantly switched his view to Templar after receiving some pressure is a bit more fishy. More data is needed, but the radar is definitely reading slightly pink. On September 02 2014 17:24 3d12 wrote:
It wasn't who he voted for, it was how he voted and why. By casting a vote in a random direction, one can sit back and observe how people react to that vote. That's not typically Mafia behavior, though I will admit the long-winded post from earlier had me confused as well. All in all, it's a tough read; but if I had to imagine myself in his position, I wouldn't imagine he'd want to make such a big target out of himself on D1 if he were Mafia. On September 02 2014 04:43 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Reporting in.
##vote 27nb So why doesn't your logic that gives you a town read on bat, not apply to obi? Didn't he "cast a vote in a random direction"? You say bat wouldn't want to make a big target of himself as mafia by random voting, but obi would? This seems inconsistent to me. EBWOP If you'd asked me this 4 hours in, I'd have read Obi as green as I did bat. His opening vote was similarly provocative, and there was little reason to suspect. Since pushing to have bat plynched though, Obi has pointed fingers at two other parties and is acting much more defensive. I'm not voting yet, but Obi is definitely on my radar. On September 03 2014 01:38 Damdred wrote:On September 03 2014 01:30 3d12 wrote:On September 03 2014 01:11 Damdred wrote:
Actually 3d, why are you ignoring bunnies right now? She has said a couple times that she would be happy to get you out of the game, what do you think of that? Why did you put off commenting on it? Not worth comment, imo. She said herself that her read on me is only a "gut read," and if people are happy with bandwagoning on a gut feeling to have me lynched, I'll happily /obs and laugh as the scum runs away with the game. Well I can understand that. However what do you think of bunnies posts besides her gut feeling on you? What posts? Aside from a suspicious(ly silly) read on poofter and a CTA for a vigi on bat, she hasn't contributed much to the discussion so far. If anything, if the deadline was right now and I had to cast my vote, I think 27nb would be my choice. Stepping up and trying to publicly read poofter as town based on nothing but troll posts gives me a bad feeling that there may even be a bus straight to LYLO going on under our noses. If you think bunnies' activities make her lynchable right now you should probably explain the posts she has made... I don't like this post. A huge post about 3d12 but it doesn't actually say much. Why even take the time to go through this amount of posts, if you don't have a real conclusion or anything? that is not a huge post. That is a small post by my standards. To answer your question, my conclusion is that 3d12 is slightly green but I don't like how he thinks very much.
If he wasn't a newbie what color would he be?
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On September 03 2014 05:47 mderg wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2014 05:44 Tehpoofter wrote:On September 02 2014 17:54 Oatsmaster wrote:
Talking about missions is bad, also dont do it.
Obi, why did you vote for bunnies at the start of the game?
just saw 3d's post, calls out micchan for being quiet, doesnt call me out for not posting at all. Clearly sheeping someone's previous sentiment.
I think you're wrong on point one if someone is allowed to do weird ass things as mafia because people aren't thinking about missions then mafia has an easier time. Plus if we are bringing up the missions and one of us actually gets it right even if we don't catch a mafia immediately from it they still could be very nervous about posting just in general or meeting the mission and it could become more awkward (read easier for us to catch) for them to accomplish it. We might as well talk about something unique to the game it would be like not talking about the cell's in cell mafia or the button in catastrophe. I don't like the mindset of "ignore the missions" to me its like "Lets just be quiet about something WE KNOW MAFIA IS DOING and let everyone ponder it individually vs collectively" Your previous post about batsnacks reads from one post is 100% right anyone getting a read off that is silly. As far as I was concerned as of last night batsnacks hadn't posted. If mafia does weird ass things they're still doing weird ass things, regardless of us thinking about the missions.
Bleh I agree on principal but my wording was bad. Something that may not seem weird normally in this game might be a mission. I'm going to keep talking about them because its basically a key clue that we have this game that if we don't use we're just hurting ourselves and making mafia play as normal. Like earlier imagine if the mission was to change votes at EoD or something silly like that and we decided after 1 hour prior to deadline no vote switches were to happen. Mafia would be petrified to make a change because it would make them look not townie. They'd have to contrive something and a simple vote switch at EoD would suddenly become a huge chore to them and without the discussion something like that would go unnoticed most likely or be written off.
What about templar making a long post makes him scummy to you?
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On September 03 2014 06:02 The_Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2014 06:00 Tehpoofter wrote:On September 03 2014 05:46 The_Templar wrote:On September 03 2014 05:44 mderg wrote:On September 03 2014 05:23 The_Templar wrote:I'm here again for another hour, as I am still working out kinks in my schedule. Sorry for being inconsistent about this. 3d12: On September 02 2014 09:06 3d12 wrote:Thanks Damdred, that was a good explanation. From my RL experience with Mafia, I've found it's usually good to have multiple options at the end of the day like you said, to be able to better piece together who is siding with whom in the long run. I'd say that's a defensible tactic to employ later on, but I'd agree that it serves no purpose in the first few days. Especially when we have no hint whatsoever as to what these missions are. From Templar's post, I think this stuck out to me the most:
And the missions are required for mafia… or they will die. I would say that's better for us anyway
He makes a good point. We're making a witch-hunt out of nothing right now. I think batsnacks is judging reactions and playing provocateur. He looks pretty town from where I'm standing, but I don't have all my chips on the table just yet. I was initially a bit skeptical upon rereading this but 3d12 has not been too bad since then. He also gave the same read on ObiWan later (a move by kita which I seem to have messed with a bit). On September 02 2014 17:24 3d12 wrote:On September 02 2014 10:33 kitaman27 wrote:On September 02 2014 09:06 3d12 wrote:I think batsnacks is judging reactions and playing provocateur. He looks pretty town from where I'm standing, but I don't have all my chips on the table just yet. I see batsnacks voting templar after a large low quality post, but I don't see how you automatically come to this conclusion that his is town based on his vote and assume he is playing provocative. It makes me suspicious of you and I wonder if you may know he is town and are attempting to come up with an suggestion that explains his play without the information being there. On September 02 2014 03:16 Damdred wrote:
@3d when you return could you talk more about why you think bat is doing that (as in him being provocative etc) and why town bats would just do that and run out of the thread? Feels like you are giving him a pass on it to easily at this point, though I do not think it is beyond town bats to do it either. It wasn't who he voted for, it was how he voted and why. By casting a vote in a random direction, one can sit back and observe how people react to that vote. That's not typically Mafia behavior, though I will admit the long-winded post from earlier had me confused as well. All in all, it's a tough read; but if I had to imagine myself in his position, I wouldn't imagine he'd want to make such a big target out of himself on D1 if he were Mafia. Instead, I'll be focusing on the people using this event and the surrounding discussion to mask their contributions to the investigation at large. And currently exhibit A on my list is kushm4sta. Despite the awesomely understanding acceptance of my newbie ways, we haven't seen much from him aside from jumping on the batwagon and refuting Vivax -- who, in my opinion, is making the most sense out of anyone in this entire thread, myself included. Exhibit B is Micchan, who seems strangely quiet. I hope he hasn't gone AFK. This is a decent post, although I don't entirely agree with it. Mafia would love an excuse or some way to cause chaos and force a mislynch so making a weird off topic post (that hopefully makes them a null read) and random voting could work (although, either possibility is very odd). He didn't really explain his thoughts on vivax/kush very well in this post. But, he did try to clarify his opinions in his next post. On September 03 2014 01:04 3d12 wrote:On September 02 2014 22:26 kushm4sta wrote:On September 02 2014 17:24 3d12 wrote:
And currently exhibit A on my list is kushm4sta. Despite the awesomely understanding acceptance of my newbie ways, we haven't seen much from him aside from jumping on the batwagon and refuting Vivax -- who, in my opinion, is making the most sense out of anyone in this entire thread, myself included. Exhibit B is Micchan, who seems strangely quiet. I hope he hasn't gone AFK. So why am I scum? "jumping on the bandwagon?" not really a bandwagon since there are only two people voting for batsnacks, and I didn't really jump on it cause I was the first vote. "refuting vivax" Why are my refutations scummy? What has vivax said that makes sense? You're right, I thought I saw a third vote for batsnacks. Sorry. I wish there was a neater way to find the current vote count. Is there a program or something that I could use to loop through the thread and count the votes? As for refuting Vivax, I said that because Vivax is the one that I'm getting the most positive read from so far. He's pointed out very good inconsistency between Templar and kita, and even though Templar has made a few good posts to better explain his views, kita's evasiveness is something to be observed more closely, I think. On September 02 2014 22:12 kitaman27 wrote:On September 02 2014 17:24 3d12 wrote:
And currently exhibit A on my list is kushm4sta. Despite the awesomely understanding acceptance of my newbie ways, we haven't seen much from him aside from jumping on the batwagon and refuting Vivax -- who, in my opinion, is making the most sense out of anyone in this entire thread, myself included. Exhibit B is Micchan, who seems strangely quiet. I hope he hasn't gone AFK. How do you feel about obi and poofter so far? Obi is a bit of a mystery, but is starting to look more pink to me. The fact that he was so willing to vote out bat for what was likely a provocation post makes me question his motives, but the fact that he instantly switched his view to Templar after receiving some pressure is a bit more fishy. More data is needed, but the radar is definitely reading slightly pink. Poofter seems alright though; his posts are generally low-content, but unless we revisit the idea of missions involving post count, that's not enough for me to read him as scum. On September 02 2014 17:54 Oatsmaster wrote:
just saw 3d's post, calls out micchan for being quiet, doesnt call me out for not posting at all. Clearly sheeping someone's previous sentiment.
Or anticipating your mod-kill due to 12 hours without post. Welcome to the game. (And my suspect list, lol) Care to share any opinion on Templar or mderg? I don't like this post, but at least he's giving reasoning on his thoughts on Obi and Poofter. His read on Oatsmaster is very odd if he actually suspects him. (BTW the posting rule is 1 post/1 vote per day/night cycle not 12 hours) On September 03 2014 01:30 3d12 wrote:On September 03 2014 01:11 Damdred wrote:
Actually 3d, why are you ignoring bunnies right now? She has said a couple times that she would be happy to get you out of the game, what do you think of that? Why did you put off commenting on it? Not worth comment, imo. She said herself that her read on me is only a "gut read," and if people are happy with bandwagoning on a gut feeling to have me lynched, I'll happily /obs and laugh as the scum runs away with the game. This is a worthless post that only serves to claim town when he's been very serious all game. He should at least address bunnies, even if it's just to give a read. On September 03 2014 03:07 3d12 wrote:On September 03 2014 02:22 kitaman27 wrote:On September 03 2014 02:21 kitaman27 wrote:On September 02 2014 17:24 3d12 wrote:
Obi is a bit of a mystery, but is starting to look more pink to me. The fact that he was so willing to vote out bat for what was likely a provocation post makes me question his motives, but the fact that he instantly switched his view to Templar after receiving some pressure is a bit more fishy. More data is needed, but the radar is definitely reading slightly pink. On September 02 2014 17:24 3d12 wrote:
It wasn't who he voted for, it was how he voted and why. By casting a vote in a random direction, one can sit back and observe how people react to that vote. That's not typically Mafia behavior, though I will admit the long-winded post from earlier had me confused as well. All in all, it's a tough read; but if I had to imagine myself in his position, I wouldn't imagine he'd want to make such a big target out of himself on D1 if he were Mafia. On September 02 2014 04:43 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Reporting in.
##vote 27nb So why doesn't your logic that gives you a town read on bat, not apply to obi? Didn't he "cast a vote in a random direction"? You say bat wouldn't want to make a big target of himself as mafia by random voting, but obi would? This seems inconsistent to me. EBWOP If you'd asked me this 4 hours in, I'd have read Obi as green as I did bat. His opening vote was similarly provocative, and there was little reason to suspect. Since pushing to have bat plynched though, Obi has pointed fingers at two other parties and is acting much more defensive. I'm not voting yet, but Obi is definitely on my radar. On September 03 2014 01:38 Damdred wrote:On September 03 2014 01:30 3d12 wrote:On September 03 2014 01:11 Damdred wrote:
Actually 3d, why are you ignoring bunnies right now? She has said a couple times that she would be happy to get you out of the game, what do you think of that? Why did you put off commenting on it? Not worth comment, imo. She said herself that her read on me is only a "gut read," and if people are happy with bandwagoning on a gut feeling to have me lynched, I'll happily /obs and laugh as the scum runs away with the game. Well I can understand that. However what do you think of bunnies posts besides her gut feeling on you? What posts? Aside from a suspicious(ly silly) read on poofter and a CTA for a vigi on bat, she hasn't contributed much to the discussion so far. If anything, if the deadline was right now and I had to cast my vote, I think 27nb would be my choice. Stepping up and trying to publicly read poofter as town based on nothing but troll posts gives me a bad feeling that there may even be a bus straight to LYLO going on under our noses. If you think bunnies' activities make her lynchable right now you should probably explain the posts she has made... I don't like this post. A huge post about 3d12 but it doesn't actually say much. Why even take the time to go through this amount of posts, if you don't have a real conclusion or anything? that is not a huge post. That is a small post by my standards. To answer your question, my conclusion is that 3d12 is slightly green but I don't like how he thinks very much. If he wasn't a newbie what color would he be? probably still slightly green since there's nothing particularly wrong with his posts other than what I put in my post.
I think its scummy that you're saying you're giving him newbie passes and still would lean slightly green on him (the same read) if he wasn't a newbie. Wouldn't your newbie passes inherently make his towniness increase? I think you might be throwing the newbie pass out there as an excuse for him like soft defending and then giving him a town read. Please explain why the rating doesn't change.
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On September 03 2014 06:03 The_Templar wrote:
I'm off to dinner/class for the next 3.5 hours, see you all later
grrrrrr please answer when you're back.
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On September 03 2014 06:21 mderg wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2014 06:09 Tehpoofter wrote:On September 03 2014 05:47 mderg wrote:On September 03 2014 05:44 Tehpoofter wrote:On September 02 2014 17:54 Oatsmaster wrote:
Talking about missions is bad, also dont do it.
Obi, why did you vote for bunnies at the start of the game?
just saw 3d's post, calls out micchan for being quiet, doesnt call me out for not posting at all. Clearly sheeping someone's previous sentiment.
I think you're wrong on point one if someone is allowed to do weird ass things as mafia because people aren't thinking about missions then mafia has an easier time. Plus if we are bringing up the missions and one of us actually gets it right even if we don't catch a mafia immediately from it they still could be very nervous about posting just in general or meeting the mission and it could become more awkward (read easier for us to catch) for them to accomplish it. We might as well talk about something unique to the game it would be like not talking about the cell's in cell mafia or the button in catastrophe. I don't like the mindset of "ignore the missions" to me its like "Lets just be quiet about something WE KNOW MAFIA IS DOING and let everyone ponder it individually vs collectively" Your previous post about batsnacks reads from one post is 100% right anyone getting a read off that is silly. As far as I was concerned as of last night batsnacks hadn't posted. If mafia does weird ass things they're still doing weird ass things, regardless of us thinking about the missions. Bleh I agree on principal but my wording was bad. Something that may not seem weird normally in this game might be a mission. I'm going to keep talking about them because its basically a key clue that we have this game that if we don't use we're just hurting ourselves and making mafia play as normal. Like earlier imagine if the mission was to change votes at EoD or something silly like that and we decided after 1 hour prior to deadline no vote switches were to happen. Mafia would be petrified to make a change because it would make them look not townie. They'd have to contrive something and a simple vote switch at EoD would suddenly become a huge chore to them and without the discussion something like that would go unnoticed most likely or be written off. What about templar making a long post makes him scummy to you? I think playing out of the ordinary to make missions fail can also hurt town. Especially if mafia has a "good" idea to stop a potential mission that might make us play suboptimal. I just don't like the idea of making big changes to our play for the off chance of figuring out a mission. What makes him scummy to me is that he made the long post focusing only on one person and then only coming to a soft conclusion like that.
I can agree to the first point there but that would require some VERY bold mafia and I think that narrows the pool of mafia considerably in the game if that was to happen.
I didn't like the point about him coming to that conclusion after the long post. Did you see my point about him also not giving him a newbie boost despite commenting on the fact that he talked about the bonus he was getting maybe being too large? What are your thoughts on that?
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On September 03 2014 06:22 kushm4sta wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2014 05:38 mderg wrote:
Anyone else thinking that 3d12 is trying hard to get some newbie bonus? how so
Yes please I asked you to quote the post mderg and didn't see it upon reading 3d12's filter.
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kush you around for a bit?
Miccah dude whats your thought on him? Takes 2 seconds to read his filter and his one comment was about 3d12 who is getting a lot of heat in the thread it seems. This dude is mafia vote him with me. Please give a shit this game like you did in Heavy Weights if you're town I saw a bit of that flare earlier. I need someone to sheep cause my day 1 is generally poor. .
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On September 03 2014 06:35 mderg wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2014 06:22 kushm4sta wrote:On September 03 2014 05:38 mderg wrote:
Anyone else thinking that 3d12 is trying hard to get some newbie bonus? how so These give off that feeling to me. I may be thinking too much into it, though. Show nested quote +On September 02 2014 08:44 3d12 wrote:
Forgive me if this seems like kind of a newbie question, but after catching up on the thread, the main thing that sticks out to me is the discussion about the voting. I'm not sure this is a good way to flush out scum. Personally, I'm with Damdred on the opinion that cutting the vote off early will cause tunneling on whoever has the majority at that point, so could someone enlighten me further on why this strategy would help? Show nested quote +On September 02 2014 09:09 3d12 wrote:Edit-post to fix quote formatting: On September 02 2014 08:08 The_Templar wrote:
And the missions are required for mafia… or they will die. I would say that's better for us anyway.
I didn't quote the post directly. Sorry. Show nested quote +On September 03 2014 01:04 3d12 wrote:
You're right, I thought I saw a third vote for batsnacks. Sorry. I wish there was a neater way to find the current vote count. Is there a program or something that I could use to loop through the thread and count the votes?
I think thats a stretch I don't think I'd give him townie points for any of these posts as even as a noob you could say them from either alignment. I think its is townie of you to point it out like it seems as if you're looking for scum.
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Templar to add onto my question what made you give the newbie points to 3d12? was it the posts mderg quoted or others?
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On September 03 2014 06:40 Vivax wrote:
3d12 sounds a lot like obviousone.
I also don't think he's scum.
Scum is among this bunch imo:
- Templar
- Kush
- Kita
- 27nb
- micchan
We might be friends this game. I am 4/5 on scum reads with you. Kush being the only exception. What makes you read kush as scum? I'd also have 3d12 in the scum pile in his place.
Vote Micchan with me that dude is scum. Complains about the mess activity and fucks off comes back and throws scum on the person being scum read by lots of people then defends himself with his 3 posts like thats his whole filter. I'm going to case him in a second so once I've posted you can just say "wow great post poofter" and vote.
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On September 03 2014 06:42 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2014 06:39 Tehpoofter wrote:On September 03 2014 06:35 mderg wrote:On September 03 2014 06:22 kushm4sta wrote:On September 03 2014 05:38 mderg wrote:
Anyone else thinking that 3d12 is trying hard to get some newbie bonus? how so These give off that feeling to me. I may be thinking too much into it, though. On September 02 2014 08:44 3d12 wrote:
Forgive me if this seems like kind of a newbie question, but after catching up on the thread, the main thing that sticks out to me is the discussion about the voting. I'm not sure this is a good way to flush out scum. Personally, I'm with Damdred on the opinion that cutting the vote off early will cause tunneling on whoever has the majority at that point, so could someone enlighten me further on why this strategy would help? On September 02 2014 09:09 3d12 wrote:Edit-post to fix quote formatting: On September 02 2014 08:08 The_Templar wrote:
And the missions are required for mafia… or they will die. I would say that's better for us anyway.
I didn't quote the post directly. Sorry. On September 03 2014 01:04 3d12 wrote:
You're right, I thought I saw a third vote for batsnacks. Sorry. I wish there was a neater way to find the current vote count. Is there a program or something that I could use to loop through the thread and count the votes?
I think thats a stretch I don't think I'd give him townie points for any of these posts as even as a noob you could say them from either alignment. I think its is townie of you to point it out like it seems as if you're looking for scum. Would you agree that 3d12's posts carry an apologetic tone? If yes, why do you think he is posting this way?
I do think that he is apologetic in nature on his posts. His entrance landed him in the scummy side for me because of the way it agreed with someone who already posted about something I thought was scummy. If hes scum its to try to scoot out of a lynch. He could be town trying to figure things out. He stays as scum for now to me thought.
What about you?
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