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Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
September 05 2014 02:57 GMT
#912
Your correct Viv that at the point in the first post I did not want to vote on mix. You are also leaving out the context of the first post where poof demanded to know why I was not sleeping his case on mic.

However a good bit of time passed and I thought he was the best option especially since a lot of people went afk with votes on him.

So yea context helps that
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
September 05 2014 02:59 GMT
#914
You put to much weight on votes, I do not throw mine around like that in any game I've played in here.

And I'll talk with mush while he's here. However I am instead talking with you poof and viv
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
September 05 2014 03:09 GMT
#919
At the first post it was shortly after his last post in the thread, so I was expecting him to come back and fight.

But as the day was coming to an end, he hadn't done anything at all past that time. So it was his own lack of trying that gave me confidence.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
September 05 2014 03:13 GMT
#922
On September 05 2014 12:09 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2014 11:57 Damdred wrote:
Your correct Viv that at the point in the first post I did not want to vote on mix. You are also leaving out the context of the first post where poof demanded to know why I was not sleeping his case on mic.

However a good bit of time passed and I thought he was the best option especially since a lot of people went afk with votes on him.

So yea context helps that

Can you explain how people going afk with votes on. Micchan mean that he is the best option? By best option I mean most likely to flip scum


phone posting and wasn't able to break the thought up correctly.

I did think he was the best option at the time in the thread.

However a last minute shift also seemed impossible from reading the thread
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
September 05 2014 03:27 GMT
#930
On September 05 2014 12:15 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2014 12:09 Damdred wrote:
At the first post it was shortly after his last post in the thread, so I was expecting him to come back and fight.

But as the day was coming to an end, he hadn't done anything at all past that time. So it was his own lack of trying that gave me confidence.


You said you found his posts scummy and that lurking wasn't inherently scummy.
Lurking you now call lack of trying.

No way, man. This smells like an excuse.

##Unvote
##Vote Damdred


Ok mr. I'll just stick my vote here and go to sleep plynch is cool.

His posts were/are scummy, he lurked said scummy things which isn't inherrintly scummy then he left never came back. Yea ok whatever.

Except low fruit who are actually town don't fuck off and not fucking fight.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
September 05 2014 03:29 GMT
#931
On September 05 2014 12:23 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2014 12:13 Damdred wrote:
On September 05 2014 12:09 Oatsmaster wrote:
On September 05 2014 11:57 Damdred wrote:
Your correct Viv that at the point in the first post I did not want to vote on mix. You are also leaving out the context of the first post where poof demanded to know why I was not sleeping his case on mic.

However a good bit of time passed and I thought he was the best option especially since a lot of people went afk with votes on him.

So yea context helps that

Can you explain how people going afk with votes on. Micchan mean that he is the best option? By best option I mean most likely to flip scum


phone posting and wasn't able to break the thought up correctly.

I did think he was the best option at the time in the thread.

However a last minute shift also seemed impossible from reading the thread

That doesnt mean you have to vote for someone everyone else thinks is scum.
Literally you can vote ANYONE ELSE. Why was Micchan the best option and why afk people means you MUST FOR FOR HIM.


obviously I said he was scum in my over explained post in getting trashed for right now...
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
September 05 2014 03:39 GMT
#935
On September 05 2014 12:36 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2014 12:27 Damdred wrote:
On September 05 2014 12:15 Vivax wrote:
On September 05 2014 12:09 Damdred wrote:
At the first post it was shortly after his last post in the thread, so I was expecting him to come back and fight.

But as the day was coming to an end, he hadn't done anything at all past that time. So it was his own lack of trying that gave me confidence.


You said you found his posts scummy and that lurking wasn't inherently scummy.
Lurking you now call lack of trying.

No way, man. This smells like an excuse.

##Unvote
##Vote Damdred


Ok mr. I'll just stick my vote here and go to sleep plynch is cool.

His posts were/are scummy, he lurked said scummy things which isn't inherrintly scummy then he left never came back. Yea ok whatever.

Except low fruit who are actually town don't fuck off and not fucking fight.


But with this you're using another argument than what you actually used previously: That his posts were scummy.

That's cause I found a gap you had to fill in.



except I've said they were scummy before
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
September 05 2014 03:51 GMT
#941
Except there's a difference in lurking, low hanging fruit, and someone who decides not to fight back.

Marv or yamatto is good example of the last in showdown. Viv is a good example of lurking in storm 2, and mm1 is good example of low hanging fruit in a few of his games.

Your conclusion is flawed
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
September 05 2014 04:00 GMT
#945
No it is a difference that should be made even lurkers show up to fight their lynch when it comes at them, you did it in storm 2 quite effectively.

He did not even try.

You are trying to split hairs here Viv.

Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
September 05 2014 04:08 GMT
#948
I'm using you as an example of lurking effectively as scum read my posts please.

What mix did was more like Yamato in showdown.

Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
September 05 2014 04:17 GMT
#950
Viv I'm going to lay down I will respond in the morning when I awake I promise but my functions are dead atm
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
September 05 2014 17:16 GMT
#1033
On September 05 2014 22:08 Vivax wrote:
Not gonna bold stuff but it's information from these posts.

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On September 02 2014 12:16 Damdred wrote:
@3d when you return could you talk more about why you think bat is doing that (as in him being provocative etc) and why town bats would just do that and run out of the thread? Feels like you are giving him a pass on it to easily at this point, though I do not think it is beyond town bats to do it either.


On September 02 2014 09:32 Micchan wrote:
Its only the start of the phase #mess


Why complain and run out of the thread, give us some thoughts about whats going on in the thread.





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On September 02 2014 21:58 Damdred wrote:
I do not think that Plynching bats is a good idea, he has not posted enough for me to get a real read on him yet, and i'm not going to think that his post is mission oriented as it would be counter productive. I have played a lot with bats and normally if hes mafia he formulates his posts a lot more, when hes town he just says random stuff or does random things. Obviously cannot tell, if you want to lynch him do not waste a plynch on him, wait for him to post more and actually do something scummy rather than something to mess with your head. But I also think 3d is a bit premature in giving him a town pass until he posts more.

On September 02 2014 21:48 Oatsmaster wrote:
I prefer not to guess what batsnacks is doing. Safe to say, whatever it is, it isn't very useful.

##vote: obiwan


Oats, is your vote on obi for his random votings and lurking? Or some other reason?


Show nested quote +
On September 03 2014 00:32 Damdred wrote:
On September 03 2014 00:08 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Oh and by shoot him, I mean shoot batsnacks, not 3d12. Though I might be willing to get him out of the game too.


Why are you so willing to shoot batsnacks? You even say that this is fool batsnacks in your post, it seems kinda weird you would want to shoot bats when you think hes possibly trying to get lynched..... And why would you be willing to get 3d12 out of the game? He seems awkward its true, and his read on bats is faulty (his initial reasons anyway) but does not getting him out of the game for those reasons seem a bit flimsy to you?


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On September 03 2014 11:38 Damdred wrote:

Batsnacks: His entrance to the thread was weird. On his re-entrance he ignored a lot of things that were posted against him, he never even showed interest in answering anything. His posts are really formulaic, right now they are reminding me of Neat and Tidy mafia instead of crazy bats in Cell or Titanic. Also usually hes really spammy, but his postings have been really hit and miss and even though he spared a lot of thoughts to 3d, his only reaction is that an apologetic tone is not scummy. But their are other things in 3ds posts that he could talk about and he does not really draw conclusions from that.




Vivax are you just going to post everything I say but put no context with it? The first part was a question to 3d about his read on bats, the second post was talking about PLynching bat after two posts. And if I might point out, I said that scum bats in that post usually is much more formulaic and lo and behold by the time I get to my scum read, I have examples in the thread and examples out of game comparing his meta. Also about his first post being weird, just for reference in the thread I believe bats had been in the thread before I posted my scum read on him, and he ignored pretty much everything that was posted against him at that point.

Vivax you are giving no room for anyones reads to evolve or include anything as their mind gets to it. You just want people to go this is what I think and never move from it, it seems. Peoples reads and thought processes evolve over time and it should become apparent in what they say in the thread if you are confused about the evolution you ask for an explanation and expect an answer. You aren't doing that you see a post that says x and then another post say y and you scream scum.

I will get to kitmans post that I was asked to comment on now and get to a couple scum reads
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
September 05 2014 17:31 GMT
#1035
On September 06 2014 02:30 Oatsmaster wrote:
##unvote
##vote kush


Why vote on Kush again Oats?
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
September 05 2014 18:17 GMT
#1053
Right now i'm suffering a bit from OMGUS and my reads are being colored right now,

Vivax: Hes seemed to tunnel pretty much every person he has went after this game. Templar, he said was scummy, bats he said was worth another look. But his vote ended up on someone he said was a plynch and then he peace'd out and went to sleep. He never reallye ven tried to get a wagon going on d1 and he jumped on a plynch As day two draws near he hears Oats wants to lynch people who over explained their votes. Vivax never looks back at the votes really. He jumps on me because of what he says is an over explained vote, but he never pressures the other people on the train who had contradictions in previous statements and where they ended up. He also gives no room for evolution of reads, or gives context for posts, he just looks for things that could be scummy and links them together.

3D: I just keep going back to those last posts he made in D1 and they just look bad. He has a lot of scum reads, and then says its scummy to jump on the hot lynch wagon after lurking but he does the same thing. He does say whatever he is thinking it seems like in d2 but his D1 to me was really scummy and his case on bats fullfilling some mission today is weird to me.

Getting concerened about a couple other people now, I still have bats as scum but the case on him hasn't changed much. Hes really formal and is try hard and formulaic in his posts which look a lot like N&T and Storm 2, even his night 2 postings where he was getting people riled up it fits into his scum meta.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
September 05 2014 18:45 GMT
#1057
Kitaman is your bunnies case still your top scum read/case right now?
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
September 05 2014 18:49 GMT
#1059
I don't think i've said anything like that Kush. I think 3d said that
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
September 06 2014 01:43 GMT
#1163
On September 06 2014 10:34 batsnacks wrote:
WHERE'S DAMDRED? I REQUIRE DAMDRED IMMEDIATELY.


Where have you been all my life batsnacks?
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
September 06 2014 01:58 GMT
#1167
On September 06 2014 10:47 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2014 10:43 Damdred wrote:
On September 06 2014 10:34 batsnacks wrote:
WHERE'S DAMDRED? I REQUIRE DAMDRED IMMEDIATELY.


Where have you been all my life batsnacks?


Damdred you're a very logical person. Is kitaman27 mafia or am I crazy? Or both?


Well firstly, i'm glad to see a normal batsnacks. Which is to say that you are just normally insane which is why I like playing with you.

On kitaman, i've reread his filter a couple of times now. And their are some scummy things about it.

During a read through (on phone so can't quote but can add them later), he picks on some easy targets during the time 3d (who I think is mafia), batsnacks, damdred, obi and NB. Most of his cases or votes fall onto people who are either under a lot of pressure during the time, don't defend themselves, or when they do show up he transfers his vote. Or it seems if the vote is not gaining traction he will go back to someone that has a bit of traction (obi->Damdred for instance).

Also he put up a decent case against bunnies, but he hasn't pushed it at all past a couple of posts which is weird to me. If he has a real scum read on her why isn't he pushing it like crazy instead of just posting it and then not even brining it back up, especially with bunnies lack of activity today. Instead he has been jumping between the different lynch wagons, with the exception being on obi, who he did not even stay on long enough to get a real pressure out of he just hopped back to me.

So i'd say, hes not taking hard stances, trying to take his way towards an easy lynch (worrying about mic flipping green for instance or jumping on people who have had pressure), and hes not pushed his own nb read during the day to try to get her wagon going.

So overall I think hes scummy after rereading his filter again
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
September 06 2014 02:14 GMT
#1169
Well what do you think of viv and bunnies bats
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
September 06 2014 02:15 GMT
#1170
I mean why do you think town and null atm in more detail ive never seen a bunnies scum before
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