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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 25 2014 18:53 GMT
#2230
I think it'd be a bit weird to include a rule about JOATs in the FAQ, or a rule about Watchers in the GF role PM, if there is no JOAT/Watcher in the game.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 25 2014 18:54 GMT
#2232
Host WIFOM FTW :D
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 25 2014 18:55 GMT
#2233
Haha... could be I guess
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 25 2014 18:56 GMT
#2234
Well I don't really mind lynching VA either, but it could be better to lynch Onegu today. At least there's a decent chance that VA is actually JOAT based on those host "clues".
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 25 2014 19:01 GMT
#2236
I agree with that point about pushing rayn. Btw I disagree with there being no difference between town/SK play... rayn was *very* different, passive/careful, as SK in one of the Titanic games.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 25 2014 19:38 GMT
#2270
I guess that host WIFOM isn't really reason enough to believe the claim. I'll keep my vote on Onegu though until he finally catches up with the thread
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 25 2014 20:18 GMT
#2277
Yeah lynching VA seems good. I really hope Onegu returns from lurking even without pressure though.

##Unvote
##Vote VayneAuthority
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 25 2014 21:26 GMT
#2286
On August 26 2014 06:18 KelsierSC wrote:
So Xat I know you think I tunneled on to you but I just want you to explain this reasoning to me.

In your notes you have your top town or unlynchables to include Dam, Yamato and WoS. Now all of these people kind of suspect Hapa to be SK and don't really like him at all.

Now also Hapa is lower on your town list and you yourself even suspect him as the SK.

So why do you want to lynch VA in this case when Hapa is pushing for it. Also considering there is no counter claim and you point out things that make the claim potentially genuine.



I only suspected him a bit. If I really suspected him, I'd be pushing to lynch him. Besides even if he's the SK he could certainly be pushing scum VA to be lynched (like he did with Robik earlier).
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 25 2014 21:28 GMT
#2288
Btw if there's another power role out there (Cop? Doctor?) I don't think they would claim but rather just silently vote for VA. Why claim when it looks like VA is getting lynched anyway?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 25 2014 21:31 GMT
#2289
On August 26 2014 06:28 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2014 06:26 Xatalos wrote:
On August 26 2014 06:18 KelsierSC wrote:
So Xat I know you think I tunneled on to you but I just want you to explain this reasoning to me.

In your notes you have your top town or unlynchables to include Dam, Yamato and WoS. Now all of these people kind of suspect Hapa to be SK and don't really like him at all.

Now also Hapa is lower on your town list and you yourself even suspect him as the SK.

So why do you want to lynch VA in this case when Hapa is pushing for it. Also considering there is no counter claim and you point out things that make the claim potentially genuine.



I only suspected him a bit. If I really suspected him, I'd be pushing to lynch him. Besides even if he's the SK he could certainly be pushing scum VA to be lynched (like he did with Robik earlier).


But your top town consider him to be SK more than a bit. Doesn't that make you pause for thought?

I think SK trying to lynch mafia in this case is highly unlikely


I don't think SK would be aiming to NK Mafia right now but I don't really see him risking himself to deflect a lynch on a potential scum. Doesn't sound very sensible.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 25 2014 21:59 GMT
#2300
On August 26 2014 06:41 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2014 06:37 WaveofShadow wrote:
On August 26 2014 06:35 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 26 2014 06:31 Xatalos wrote:
On August 26 2014 06:28 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 26 2014 06:26 Xatalos wrote:
On August 26 2014 06:18 KelsierSC wrote:
So Xat I know you think I tunneled on to you but I just want you to explain this reasoning to me.

In your notes you have your top town or unlynchables to include Dam, Yamato and WoS. Now all of these people kind of suspect Hapa to be SK and don't really like him at all.

Now also Hapa is lower on your town list and you yourself even suspect him as the SK.

So why do you want to lynch VA in this case when Hapa is pushing for it. Also considering there is no counter claim and you point out things that make the claim potentially genuine.



I only suspected him a bit. If I really suspected him, I'd be pushing to lynch him. Besides even if he's the SK he could certainly be pushing scum VA to be lynched (like he did with Robik earlier).


But your top town consider him to be SK more than a bit. Doesn't that make you pause for thought?

I think SK trying to lynch mafia in this case is highly unlikely


I don't think SK would be aiming to NK Mafia right now but I don't really see him risking himself to deflect a lynch on a potential scum. Doesn't sound very sensible.


I don't understand how the second part of your statement makes sense

Also I just don't understand how you can believe Hapa so much and vote on VA when your top town consider him the SK.



Because top town consider va scum too?
The fuck?
Why does it or SHOULD it have anything to do with what he thinks of hapa?


The point is the moment you decided to switch onto VA the topic of discussion was mostly about Hap being the SK. Which you had in your notes and which the top town believed to be true.

You pointed out some reasons why the claim might be genuine.

then hapa made another point about VA and you said

"oh yeh VA is probably the lynch"

And I just can't get my head around your logic. Hapa pushes for VA and you jump on it despite the fact that you defended the claim to an extent, and the top town believe Hapa is off.


I just really don't care too much if Hapa is SK or not right now. Even if he is (which is far from certain), I heavily doubt he would be concerned about voting for scum today. It would just increase his credibility. And he CAN'T EVEN KNOW WHO IS SCUM OR NOT. So it's not like he knows who the scum are and can avoid lynching them. As either town or SK, he'll just find the most scummy player and lynch him.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 25 2014 22:03 GMT
#2301
On August 26 2014 06:52 Damdred wrote:
Quick question statement:

Some of the thread won't lynch into a PR claim such as VAs when it does make a bit of sense. Why is it horrible here to CC him if you are blue? A 1:1 trade is not the worst thing when we already have confirmed other roles and mafia would be down to 1.


Consider that there's like a Doctor who plans to heal the Masons N2? Him claiming would just be a death sentence for himself and for the Masons. Why claim when the thread sentiment is already against VA?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 25 2014 22:08 GMT
#2303
On August 26 2014 07:07 Damdred wrote:
I doubt we have a medic xata


?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 25 2014 22:09 GMT
#2304
Oh I guess the Jailkeeper kind of overlaps.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 25 2014 22:10 GMT
#2305
Cop then? If his check isn't something very crucial for the current discussion, not very useful to claim only to dig VA a little deeper.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 25 2014 22:11 GMT
#2306
But why are we even talking about possible blue roles >.>
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 25 2014 22:34 GMT
#2310
On August 26 2014 07:11 VayneAuthority wrote:
no one can claim anyway hence why I claimed...thought this would end this nonsense but I guess not.


This kind of feels like he actually is JOAT..... Well, I guess it's possible he claimed to make someone counterclaim though? It would make some sense.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 25 2014 22:59 GMT
#2318
Did Onegu just forget about this game or something? He hasn't posted in ages.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 25 2014 23:00 GMT
#2319
LOL yamato with the ballsy wagon
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 26 2014 10:44 GMT
#2378
On August 26 2014 10:16 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2014 09:54 Damdred wrote:
I'm amazed not that i don't think xata is scummy but you agreed he wasn't the lynch and yet you waste your vote....why exactly?


At the start of the day I said he wasn't the lynch

But with Recent developments with regards to Xata and Hapa pushing on VA and further analysis of the claim and NK's. He is just much scummier than anyone by miles.

Onegu is probably mafia but in my opinion he is more of a coinflip right now than Xata who is 100% mafia. If it comes to lynching onegu and someone who I think is town then I will switch but otherwise I have no reason not to vote my top scum read.

read my filter for recent developments on why Xata is scum.


I'm amazed how I'm "100% mafia" when I've 1) lynched Mafia D1 2) played exactly like I always play as town 3) been the most active player in the game (like usually as town) 4) showed a lot of interest in who actually gets lynched D1 (which I never do as scum).
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
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