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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 22 2014 14:16 GMT
#401
On August 22 2014 23:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Wave are you scared to have feelings?

LOL I WAS JUST THINKING ABOUT THIS
Sometimes you make me so angry
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
August 22 2014 14:17 GMT
#402
On August 22 2014 23:14 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2014 23:13 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 22 2014 23:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why is noone calling yamato mafia?


are you calling him mafia?

I gave him a town pass today because of his interaction with you. He said someething about not being able to read WoS that well but did bring up his early posting being fluffy and that felt like town to me. I think mafia would have just said "he has shit posted yeh"

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WARNING
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I'm not sure what you mean by that. The reason he feels town is he said he can't read you that well which I don't think a mafia would say. d1 pass acquired.
Zerg for Life
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
August 22 2014 14:18 GMT
#403
On August 22 2014 23:16 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2014 23:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Wave are you scared to have feelings?

LOL I WAS JUST THINKING ABOUT THIS
Sometimes you make me so angry

You are way too stiff dude ^_^
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
August 22 2014 14:18 GMT
#404
On August 22 2014 23:13 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2014 23:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why is noone calling yamato mafia?


are you calling him mafia?

I gave him a town pass today because of his interaction with you. He said someething about not being able to read WoS that well but did bring up his early posting being fluffy and that felt like town to me. I think mafia would have just said "he has shit posted yeh"


Yamato is always mafia until he posts and shows he isn't.

You guys are right though, my posts do look a little downplay I guess my sarcasm was not really getting across especially in the post about being scum read for not being awkward.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
August 22 2014 14:18 GMT
#405
On August 22 2014 23:17 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2014 23:14 WaveofShadow wrote:
On August 22 2014 23:13 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 22 2014 23:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why is noone calling yamato mafia?


are you calling him mafia?

I gave him a town pass today because of his interaction with you. He said someething about not being able to read WoS that well but did bring up his early posting being fluffy and that felt like town to me. I think mafia would have just said "he has shit posted yeh"

WARNING
WARNING
CONFIRMATION BIAS


I'm not sure what you mean by that. The reason he feels town is he said he can't read you that well which I don't think a mafia would say. d1 pass acquired.

Why wouldn't a mafia say this?
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 22 2014 14:18 GMT
#406
On August 22 2014 23:15 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2014 23:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 22 2014 23:10 Xatalos wrote:
Btw rayn why no comment about my (admittedly experimental) heuristic on you or anything else? I'm honestly a bit surprised you'd not comment.

I don't remember what you said because i do not think you are necessarily mafia any more.

Because or but? I don't understand what you're trying to say. The only reason to not care about what someone's saying is if you think they're mafia. If you think he's town then you should care.

To make it easier for you: he said that when you're helpful and aggro you're town. When you're not helpful you could be mafia

Well JAT covered that already. I didn't think i should answer it anymore.
I don't read posts from people who i think are town and who i consider "worthless" because it does not help me find mafia. Especially posts about me. Sorry Xatalos but i think you are quite worthless at the start of the game, maybe for smth like 15-20 first hours.

Same goes for Damdred. I do not read his posts properly until he starts posting properly.

If that does not happen then my read might change.
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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 22 2014 14:19 GMT
#407
Damdred you saw my earlier reply to you? Get back to it.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 22 2014 14:19 GMT
#408
On August 22 2014 23:17 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2014 23:14 WaveofShadow wrote:
On August 22 2014 23:13 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 22 2014 23:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why is noone calling yamato mafia?


are you calling him mafia?

I gave him a town pass today because of his interaction with you. He said someething about not being able to read WoS that well but did bring up his early posting being fluffy and that felt like town to me. I think mafia would have just said "he has shit posted yeh"

WARNING
WARNING
CONFIRMATION BIAS


I'm not sure what you mean by that. The reason he feels town is he said he can't read you that well which I don't think a mafia would say. d1 pass acquired.

I think you should reconsider some of your heuristics. Or maybe a bit more than some.
table for two on a tv tray
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 22 2014 14:20 GMT
#409
Possible scummers:
Damdred/KSC (and maybe Onegu or hapa or yamato? can't tell 'cause they're not here)
Damdred for reasons earlier that haven't resolved much---had a mind meld a little while ago which is +town but his posting since he's returned hasn't really done a lot for me. More forgettable scum than HOLYSHITOBVSCUM

Xat townread on me was a little odd but everyone found him scummy and everything he did in that listpost flies in the face of good scumplay so I doubt it tbh.

KSC still just can't tell either way---either skilled scummer or boring townie.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 22 2014 14:20 GMT
#410
On August 22 2014 23:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2014 23:15 IAmRobik wrote:
On August 22 2014 23:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 22 2014 23:10 Xatalos wrote:
Btw rayn why no comment about my (admittedly experimental) heuristic on you or anything else? I'm honestly a bit surprised you'd not comment.

I don't remember what you said because i do not think you are necessarily mafia any more.

Because or but? I don't understand what you're trying to say. The only reason to not care about what someone's saying is if you think they're mafia. If you think he's town then you should care.

To make it easier for you: he said that when you're helpful and aggro you're town. When you're not helpful you could be mafia

Well JAT covered that already. I didn't think i should answer it anymore.
I don't read posts from people who i think are town and who i consider "worthless" because it does not help me find mafia. Especially posts about me. Sorry Xatalos but i think you are quite worthless at the start of the game, maybe for smth like 15-20 first hours.

Same goes for Damdred. I do not read his posts properly until he starts posting properly.

If that does not happen then my read might change.


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"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 22 2014 14:21 GMT
#411
On August 22 2014 23:18 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2014 23:16 WaveofShadow wrote:
On August 22 2014 23:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Wave are you scared to have feelings?

LOL I WAS JUST THINKING ABOUT THIS
Sometimes you make me so angry

You are way too stiff dude ^_^

haha i was actually gonna say something like that to you earlier.
Made me feel better lol
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 22 2014 14:21 GMT
#412
On August 22 2014 23:18 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2014 23:13 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 22 2014 23:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why is noone calling yamato mafia?


are you calling him mafia?

I gave him a town pass today because of his interaction with you. He said someething about not being able to read WoS that well but did bring up his early posting being fluffy and that felt like town to me. I think mafia would have just said "he has shit posted yeh"


Yamato is always mafia until he posts and shows he isn't.

You guys are right though, my posts do look a little downplay I guess my sarcasm was not really getting across especially in the post about being scum read for not being awkward.

SO apologetic. Is damdred REALLY town for this? I learned not to do this after my first towngame ever i think.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 22 2014 14:22 GMT
#413
On August 22 2014 23:20 WaveofShadow wrote:
Xat townread on me was a little odd but everyone found him scummy and everything he did in that listpost flies in the face of good scumplay so I doubt it tbh.

What do you mean by the bolded?
table for two on a tv tray
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 22 2014 14:23 GMT
#414
Listposts draw attention, having reads basically opposite to everyone else in thread draw attention. So unless he really WASN'T reading the thread, or plays scum like me (I highly doubt it), he's likely not scum.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 22 2014 14:24 GMT
#415
On August 22 2014 23:20 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2014 23:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 22 2014 23:15 IAmRobik wrote:
On August 22 2014 23:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 22 2014 23:10 Xatalos wrote:
Btw rayn why no comment about my (admittedly experimental) heuristic on you or anything else? I'm honestly a bit surprised you'd not comment.

I don't remember what you said because i do not think you are necessarily mafia any more.

Because or but? I don't understand what you're trying to say. The only reason to not care about what someone's saying is if you think they're mafia. If you think he's town then you should care.

To make it easier for you: he said that when you're helpful and aggro you're town. When you're not helpful you could be mafia

Well JAT covered that already. I didn't think i should answer it anymore.
I don't read posts from people who i think are town and who i consider "worthless" because it does not help me find mafia. Especially posts about me. Sorry Xatalos but i think you are quite worthless at the start of the game, maybe for smth like 15-20 first hours.

Same goes for Damdred. I do not read his posts properly until he starts posting properly.

If that does not happen then my read might change.


[image loading]


Tbh rayn last game my relatively early scumreads (GB+Oats) were my best reads. And I was right about you being town + yamato being town + Robik being town then. Then it went downhill :/ You gotta trust the feels.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
August 22 2014 14:26 GMT
#416
On August 22 2014 23:18 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2014 23:17 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 22 2014 23:14 WaveofShadow wrote:
On August 22 2014 23:13 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 22 2014 23:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why is noone calling yamato mafia?


are you calling him mafia?

I gave him a town pass today because of his interaction with you. He said someething about not being able to read WoS that well but did bring up his early posting being fluffy and that felt like town to me. I think mafia would have just said "he has shit posted yeh"

WARNING
WARNING
CONFIRMATION BIAS


I'm not sure what you mean by that. The reason he feels town is he said he can't read you that well which I don't think a mafia would say. d1 pass acquired.

Why wouldn't a mafia say this?


There is no reason to say it, you can just give the read and cast a bigger aspersion if you don't preface it.
He also felt town in his interactions, kind of chilled and relaxed. So I have multiple reasons to give him a town pass

I kind of feel like GB has had a weak game since coming back and the awkward intro, like giving a "you gave your mafia partner a +4" like maybe that was a joke but I don't think anyone would truly believe that a mafia makes his partner top town right at the start of d1. I gave him an early town pass but I really don't like his play so far.
Zerg for Life
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 22 2014 14:26 GMT
#417
Well it's rare for me to hit scum until like D2 though. So in that sense you're somewhat right.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 22 2014 14:26 GMT
#418
On August 22 2014 23:23 WaveofShadow wrote:
Listposts draw attention, having reads basically opposite to everyone else in thread draw attention. So unless he really WASN'T reading the thread, or plays scum like me (I highly doubt it), he's likely not scum.

Bad posts are bad posts. People are found out as mafia because of bad posts. You can't just say "look a scummy post this dude is town because no scum would do that" (which i recently got painfully reminded of).

I also do not understand your pre-flip association read on Xatalos being town because "everyone has called him scum" when in fact half of the players have not called him scum.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 22 2014 14:27 GMT
#419
Maybe GlowingBear is mafia because his posts are quite weird and do not follow any sort of logic.
I gotta reread him tonight.
table for two on a tv tray
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 22 2014 14:28 GMT
#420
Hmmm
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
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