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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
August 29 2014 01:55 GMT
#3201
I'm so goooooooood

lolol
Writer@WriterYamato
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 29 2014 01:56 GMT
#3202
On August 29 2014 10:47 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2014 10:45 Xatalos wrote:
On August 29 2014 10:40 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 29 2014 10:33 Xatalos wrote:
ObsQT was SO wrong btw during D2 (about VA/Hapa) :D Well, I was also Cop and jat jailed Hapa so...

I think I made it pretty obvious that I thought Vaynes claim was fishy but you don't lynch him in that situation because the other blue (you) did not claim. And how the hell am I supposed to know that the SK is some OP unblockable monster.




Btw some harsh things were said about me in the ObsQT. I kind of agree, I didn't think through nearly everything I said and just talked about whatever at multiple points in the game (phoneposting / very late at night etc.). You also have to consider that I was Cop though and I actually tried to slightly encourage people suspecting me so that I would be absolutely safe during night. And me wanting to lynch VA is obviously explained by me being the Cop, and we couldn't have known that Hapa was "roleblocked" during the night which was actually only good...

Well, of course it makes sense for you to go after vayne. I am not a fan of people trying to seem scummy because they are a role though (as can probably be seen by my play this game). Hapas towncase on you was absolutely spot on though and I would never have lynched you for it.


Honestly I think you should have played a bit less obvtown as JK You were basically more obvtown than GB+turtle hahaha
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 29 2014 01:57 GMT
#3203
On August 29 2014 10:55 yamato77 wrote:
I'm so goooooooood

lolol


Only after 30 minutes before D1 deadline
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
August 29 2014 02:00 GMT
#3204
Xat you checked vayne night 1? or is that a mistake?

After I got town I knew I wanted to play aggressive, try and get a few early town reads and lynch my scum.

I think D1 I put too much analysis into who was defending who or who thought other people were scummy I think every member of town has too little information for that to be super important.

in D1 I just give people a town pass for some easy things and I should probably be more rigorous than that.
I guess my very first read of WoS being mafia was right though =).

Still not sure what people mean by confirmation bias, is that just I think someone is scum so I start seeing scum tells that aren't real?

I think I had my first lynch between Yamato and Xata so that was obviously shit, I think they had been scummy though.
I probably was too tunneled on Xat, Like he felt a bit weird and then everything he did I saw as scummy.

d2 again I was just between VA and Onegu. then VA claimed so I was only going to vote on one guy. ended up on hapa because top town agreed with it.

d3 I was lost emotionally and that almost got me lynched , but like it was basically auto win.

Obviously I need to flame less. I just couldn't believe what Turtle and GB where doing. Like they were confirmed town and they hardly posted at all then they called me mafia with absolutely no reason what so ever, that was incredibly frustrating and made me really pissed off towards dam and Xat d3. But yeh I need to maintain control of my emotions and just tell someone why they are not reading correctly and not call them an idiot.

as for how other people played.

JAT played such great town that he only got to play 1 day but it was a pretty sick day 1.

Yam played really well after d1. Maybe he could stand to be more active in d1 especially if you are VT

I read Dam as town for most of the game so he did a good job of projecting that to me. He seemed to be reading the game in a similar manner to me which made me think he was town.

Xat, was really interesting for d1 and d2 I just considered him scum, but he did a great job of being scummy enough not to be NK'd and town enough to survive. I still don't know if he should have counter claimed VA on d2. I probably wouldn't have believed him though.

WoS was a great mafia player, I really thought he did a great job projecting town. Maybe he should not have pointed out the Hapa being SK role because that ended up hurting mafia but I mean if it wasn't hapa probably VA ends up getting lynched I dont know.

VA, his d1 seemed kind of weak. the claim was kind of bad but he wasnt counter claimed so he lived to another day. I don't know maybe his d1 needs to be more active.

Robik - I think he was unlucky to be lynched to be honest. hard to really analyse him though,

Hapa - again both mafia and town calling him SK he didnt have a chance, apparently it is obvious when he is not town but I don't really have a comparison.

rayn - Think he played good town and got good discussion going, like he went against WoS and called Hapa as not town right from d1. maybe needed to project town more but I liked his approach it felt similar to how I play.

Turtle - good at poetry

GB - Won't play for a month





Zerg for Life
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
August 29 2014 02:01 GMT
#3205
On August 29 2014 10:56 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2014 10:47 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 29 2014 10:45 Xatalos wrote:
On August 29 2014 10:40 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 29 2014 10:33 Xatalos wrote:
ObsQT was SO wrong btw during D2 (about VA/Hapa) :D Well, I was also Cop and jat jailed Hapa so...

I think I made it pretty obvious that I thought Vaynes claim was fishy but you don't lynch him in that situation because the other blue (you) did not claim. And how the hell am I supposed to know that the SK is some OP unblockable monster.




Btw some harsh things were said about me in the ObsQT. I kind of agree, I didn't think through nearly everything I said and just talked about whatever at multiple points in the game (phoneposting / very late at night etc.). You also have to consider that I was Cop though and I actually tried to slightly encourage people suspecting me so that I would be absolutely safe during night. And me wanting to lynch VA is obviously explained by me being the Cop, and we couldn't have known that Hapa was "roleblocked" during the night which was actually only good...

Well, of course it makes sense for you to go after vayne. I am not a fan of people trying to seem scummy because they are a role though (as can probably be seen by my play this game). Hapas towncase on you was absolutely spot on though and I would never have lynched you for it.


Honestly I think you should have played a bit less obvtown as JK You were basically more obvtown than GB+turtle hahaha

It was not hard to be more town than those 2. Apart from being confirmed of course
I will never change my play in the slightest if I am blue and if everyone else would do the same people like vayne would have a bad time. Blue roles are overrated anyways.
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
August 29 2014 02:03 GMT
#3206
Think I managed to convice people by the end of d3, pointing out stuff about WoS voting VA didn't clear that partnership existing and how WoS didn't push for the hapa lynch just pointed him out as SK.

Zerg for Life
Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
August 29 2014 02:03 GMT
#3207
On August 29 2014 11:00 KelsierSC wrote:
Xat you checked vayne night 1? or is that a mistake?


He checked rayn, i forgot to update that
Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
August 29 2014 02:03 GMT
#3208
Oh wait, it is updated in the sheet
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 29 2014 02:04 GMT
#3209
My original checks:

N1 VA
N2 WOS

Final actions:

N1 rayn
N2 Damdred

QQ
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
August 29 2014 02:08 GMT
#3210
We won and had badically a perfect lynch. You did well for the first game kel soon as you lost the emptional edge you weren't scum. There is a gine line between out of control emotional and town emotional. Next time the line won't get blurrex with you i think
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 29 2014 02:10 GMT
#3211
If you liked rayn's approach this game it'll be quite annoying to play with you :D I guess you have the same problem of getting really annoyed when people scumread you. I don't really care too much usually. I always start a bit awkward/scummy as town and then become a universal townread. This game I had my primary objective in using my role though so that never really happened until I claimed.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
August 29 2014 02:17 GMT
#3212
On August 29 2014 11:00 KelsierSC wrote:
Xat you checked vayne night 1? or is that a mistake?

After I got town I knew I wanted to play aggressive, try and get a few early town reads and lynch my scum.

I think D1 I put too much analysis into who was defending who or who thought other people were scummy I think every member of town has too little information for that to be super important.

in D1 I just give people a town pass for some easy things and I should probably be more rigorous than that.
I guess my very first read of WoS being mafia was right though =).

Still not sure what people mean by confirmation bias, is that just I think someone is scum so I start seeing scum tells that aren't real?

I think I had my first lynch between Yamato and Xata so that was obviously shit, I think they had been scummy though.
I probably was too tunneled on Xat, Like he felt a bit weird and then everything he did I saw as scummy.

d2 again I was just between VA and Onegu. then VA claimed so I was only going to vote on one guy. ended up on hapa because top town agreed with it.

d3 I was lost emotionally and that almost got me lynched , but like it was basically auto win.

Obviously I need to flame less. I just couldn't believe what Turtle and GB where doing. Like they were confirmed town and they hardly posted at all then they called me mafia with absolutely no reason what so ever, that was incredibly frustrating and made me really pissed off towards dam and Xat d3. But yeh I need to maintain control of my emotions and just tell someone why they are not reading correctly and not call them an idiot.

as for how other people played.

JAT played such great town that he only got to play 1 day but it was a pretty sick day 1.

Yam played really well after d1. Maybe he could stand to be more active in d1 especially if you are VT

I read Dam as town for most of the game so he did a good job of projecting that to me. He seemed to be reading the game in a similar manner to me which made me think he was town.

Xat, was really interesting for d1 and d2 I just considered him scum, but he did a great job of being scummy enough not to be NK'd and town enough to survive. I still don't know if he should have counter claimed VA on d2. I probably wouldn't have believed him though.

WoS was a great mafia player, I really thought he did a great job projecting town. Maybe he should not have pointed out the Hapa being SK role because that ended up hurting mafia but I mean if it wasn't hapa probably VA ends up getting lynched I dont know.

VA, his d1 seemed kind of weak. the claim was kind of bad but he wasnt counter claimed so he lived to another day. I don't know maybe his d1 needs to be more active.

Robik - I think he was unlucky to be lynched to be honest. hard to really analyse him though,

Hapa - again both mafia and town calling him SK he didnt have a chance, apparently it is obvious when he is not town but I don't really have a comparison.

rayn - Think he played good town and got good discussion going, like he went against WoS and called Hapa as not town right from d1. maybe needed to project town more but I liked his approach it felt similar to how I play.

Turtle - good at poetry

GB - Won't play for a month







I actually didn't have a good read on you, I just thought you're mafia because of that single post I picked to analyse. Then I decided to do a little filter dive on you and saw good posts. I was tunneled and still thought you were mafia but I knew you could be town.
Your logic is pretty solid to be honest. I just wanted to lynch you because of your bad manner.
I was going to stay away from mafia for a month anyway, so, lol XD
I'm adorable.
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
August 29 2014 02:21 GMT
#3213
On August 29 2014 11:17 GlowingBear wrote:
[

I actually didn't have a good read on you, I just thought you're mafia because of that single post I picked to analyse. Then I decided to do a little filter dive on you and saw good posts. I was tunneled and still thought you were mafia but I knew you could be town.
Your logic is pretty solid to be honest. I just wanted to lynch you because of your bad manner.
I was going to stay away from mafia for a month anyway, so, lol XD


I think that was what upset me the most was that you didn't really present a good argument for why I was mafia but still kind of pushed to lynch me.
I shouldn't have raged out at you so hard so I apologise for that.
Zerg for Life
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 29 2014 02:23 GMT
#3214
Town had some luck too but I think it was overall a deserved victory Hapa could have easily won the game I think if he put in some effort D2. WOS definitely played very well though and VA was observant to notice me being a blue (although have more confidence ). But the SK death and me+Damdred getting confirmed sealed the deal.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-29 02:26:01
August 29 2014 02:25 GMT
#3215
Btw if you decided to roleblock me N2 I think scum stood a good chance of victory since I townread WOS at that point. So too bad :/ I guess I'm kind of happy that my efforts to conceal being a blue paid off though!
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
August 29 2014 02:26 GMT
#3216
On August 29 2014 11:23 Xatalos wrote:
Town had some luck too but I think it was overall a deserved victory Hapa could have easily won the game I think if he put in some effort D2. WOS definitely played very well though and VA was observant to notice me being a blue (although have more confidence ). But the SK death and me+Damdred getting confirmed sealed the deal.


That last minute just "fuck it lets vote robik" left mafia up against it.

I think if VA or Robik had been present then we probably ML yam or you.

Zerg for Life
turtlevine
Profile Joined August 2014
74 Posts
August 29 2014 03:40 GMT
#3217
I'm Blazinghand, I can't imagine how anyone thought otherwise. Could anyone but Blazinghand lead town on so many successful lynches?
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
August 29 2014 03:41 GMT
#3218
This post is to confirm that I am turtlevine
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
August 29 2014 03:51 GMT
#3219
On August 29 2014 12:41 Blazinghand wrote:
This post is to confirm that I am turtlevine


LOL BH!
Why did you support my reads so much?
I'm adorable.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
August 29 2014 04:12 GMT
#3220
We were laughing about it just now on voice; we were saying you're the only one who does that 'A B C' naming convention shit lol
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