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justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
August 22 2014 11:33 GMT
#261
On August 22 2014 20:31 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2014 20:30 justanothertownie wrote:
It doesn't seem very Robik'ish to downplay your own reads.

Well apparently it is because I'm town.

Great. This game is so easy since everyone is always telling the truth.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 22 2014 11:34 GMT
#262
On August 22 2014 20:18 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2014 20:16 Xatalos wrote:
On August 22 2014 20:11 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 22 2014 20:09 Xatalos wrote:
The bigger reason was him engaging so naturally in the discussion. I just initially thought he might be town after he started listing which players he's good at reading. Feels like something scum wouldn't want to share casually.

Why? Wave was being all casual and shit but he said very little game relevant things. And there are things like this:
On August 22 2014 12:03 WaveofShadow wrote:
Actually I want to go look up a scumgame of yours. Can you link/name one for me?

Why even ask this? Wave is perfectly able to use the database I am pretty sure.


Because increasing the amount of information in the thread is against scum's win condition. Let's assume that like WOS is very wrong on all of the players he mentioned throughout the game. That would make him more suspicious. Is it worth it to share that information with the thread in the hopes that someone like me would give him a bit of townie points for it? I don't really think so.

I have trouble buying that you really believe what you are saying here.


Feel free not to buy it. That isn't why he got +4 points btw, just my initial impression of him was a bit towny from that post, like +1 points.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
August 22 2014 11:36 GMT
#263
On August 22 2014 20:34 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2014 20:18 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 22 2014 20:16 Xatalos wrote:
On August 22 2014 20:11 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 22 2014 20:09 Xatalos wrote:
The bigger reason was him engaging so naturally in the discussion. I just initially thought he might be town after he started listing which players he's good at reading. Feels like something scum wouldn't want to share casually.

Why? Wave was being all casual and shit but he said very little game relevant things. And there are things like this:
On August 22 2014 12:03 WaveofShadow wrote:
Actually I want to go look up a scumgame of yours. Can you link/name one for me?

Why even ask this? Wave is perfectly able to use the database I am pretty sure.


Because increasing the amount of information in the thread is against scum's win condition. Let's assume that like WOS is very wrong on all of the players he mentioned throughout the game. That would make him more suspicious. Is it worth it to share that information with the thread in the hopes that someone like me would give him a bit of townie points for it? I don't really think so.

I have trouble buying that you really believe what you are saying here.


Feel free not to buy it. That isn't why he got +4 points btw, just my initial impression of him was a bit towny from that post, like +1 points.

I really don't give a fuck about your point system, sorry. If you are town and think anyone would come back to that post in the later stages of the game and suspect Wave because he was wrong on somebody then you are delusional.
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
August 22 2014 11:36 GMT
#264
On August 22 2014 20:33 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2014 20:31 IAmRobik wrote:
On August 22 2014 20:30 justanothertownie wrote:
It doesn't seem very Robik'ish to downplay your own reads.

Well apparently it is because I'm town.

Great. This game is so easy since everyone is always telling the truth.

I have not seen anyone blatantly lie yet. I think that happens later.
Having said that, I am town and thus I have no reason to lie about anything.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
August 22 2014 11:37 GMT
#265
On August 22 2014 20:36 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2014 20:33 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 22 2014 20:31 IAmRobik wrote:
On August 22 2014 20:30 justanothertownie wrote:
It doesn't seem very Robik'ish to downplay your own reads.

Well apparently it is because I'm town.

Great. This game is so easy since everyone is always telling the truth.

I have not seen anyone blatantly lie yet. I think that happens later.
Having said that, I am town and thus I have no reason to lie about anything.

But how would you know that if you are town?
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
August 22 2014 11:41 GMT
#266
On August 22 2014 20:37 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2014 20:36 IAmRobik wrote:
On August 22 2014 20:33 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 22 2014 20:31 IAmRobik wrote:
On August 22 2014 20:30 justanothertownie wrote:
It doesn't seem very Robik'ish to downplay your own reads.

Well apparently it is because I'm town.

Great. This game is so easy since everyone is always telling the truth.

I have not seen anyone blatantly lie yet. I think that happens later.
Having said that, I am town and thus I have no reason to lie about anything.

But how would you know that if you are town?

Read the thread and point out what is a lie. I haven't seen anything.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
August 22 2014 11:42 GMT
#267
On August 22 2014 20:41 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2014 20:37 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 22 2014 20:36 IAmRobik wrote:
On August 22 2014 20:33 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 22 2014 20:31 IAmRobik wrote:
On August 22 2014 20:30 justanothertownie wrote:
It doesn't seem very Robik'ish to downplay your own reads.

Well apparently it is because I'm town.

Great. This game is so easy since everyone is always telling the truth.

I have not seen anyone blatantly lie yet. I think that happens later.
Having said that, I am town and thus I have no reason to lie about anything.

But how would you know that if you are town?

Read the thread and point out what is a lie. I haven't seen anything.

Well, WoS claimed to be town for example. That could be a lie as far as I am concerned.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 22 2014 11:43 GMT
#268
On August 22 2014 20:23 KelsierSC wrote:
I like Just as town, seems to share the same reads as me and I think he has pointed out flaws with Xatalos's post which I agreed with.
Yamato seems town so far, I like the way he is posting it seems genuine and relaxed, he shared the read as me on WoS but wasn't totally leaping on a bw.
Rayn feels town to me, his interaction with yamato felt town and his aggression with regards to Xatalos was town.

I don't like Xatalos so far.
Firstly his initial ranking system feels weird to me and doesn't line up with my reads. Like he said Wos was responding casual/towny and being natural..if that is what you call spamming gifs and shit posts then ok I dont read that as town at all.

Secondly his read on dama being mafia and then voting, I mean dama isn't my top town but he has still played in a town oritentated way. I think there are more important people to look at.

I also don't like his read on rayn, like he gets -1 point because he didn't post whilst he was asleep like how does this system work where WoS gets 4 points but rayn is on -1 for not being awake.


Xatalos I want to ask you, what do you think of the line of questioning that WoS went with. Specifically his asking everyone to give a scum, and asking GB to give a yamato read





The Damdred vote was just some slight gut feeling. It's plurality so it's not like it matters too much if I switch around votes throughout the day.

I thought rayn was awake based on his post just before the deadline where he said he'll stay up for the deadline. Not to mention that I didn't like his starting posts that much either. Reminds me too much of Titanic I guess.

I'm phone posting now so a bit hard to go through WOS filter, but I just didn't feel any malicious intent with WOS. He was basically hanging around in the thread and discussing naturally with anyone. As scum it's kind of a natural instinct to hide away from the thread when it's not necessary to discuss something. WOS just felt like he enjoyed chatting in the thread as opposed to being afraid.

What's so bad about asking for scumreads etc? I think it's a pretty normal topic to talk about?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
August 22 2014 11:46 GMT
#269
On August 22 2014 20:42 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2014 20:41 IAmRobik wrote:
On August 22 2014 20:37 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 22 2014 20:36 IAmRobik wrote:
On August 22 2014 20:33 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 22 2014 20:31 IAmRobik wrote:
On August 22 2014 20:30 justanothertownie wrote:
It doesn't seem very Robik'ish to downplay your own reads.

Well apparently it is because I'm town.

Great. This game is so easy since everyone is always telling the truth.

I have not seen anyone blatantly lie yet. I think that happens later.
Having said that, I am town and thus I have no reason to lie about anything.

But how would you know that if you are town?

Read the thread and point out what is a lie. I haven't seen anything.

Well, WoS claimed to be town for example. That could be a lie as far as I am concerned.

I thought I was the only one who hard claimed my role. Maybe I'm the one who needs to read better. I just remembered that xata and or Dandre's did as well

Maybe people are lying. Disregard my stupid/naive statement

I'm not lying though. I'm 100% town
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
August 22 2014 11:49 GMT
#270
On August 22 2014 20:43 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2014 20:23 KelsierSC wrote:
I like Just as town, seems to share the same reads as me and I think he has pointed out flaws with Xatalos's post which I agreed with.
Yamato seems town so far, I like the way he is posting it seems genuine and relaxed, he shared the read as me on WoS but wasn't totally leaping on a bw.
Rayn feels town to me, his interaction with yamato felt town and his aggression with regards to Xatalos was town.

I don't like Xatalos so far.
Firstly his initial ranking system feels weird to me and doesn't line up with my reads. Like he said Wos was responding casual/towny and being natural..if that is what you call spamming gifs and shit posts then ok I dont read that as town at all.

Secondly his read on dama being mafia and then voting, I mean dama isn't my top town but he has still played in a town oritentated way. I think there are more important people to look at.

I also don't like his read on rayn, like he gets -1 point because he didn't post whilst he was asleep like how does this system work where WoS gets 4 points but rayn is on -1 for not being awake.


Xatalos I want to ask you, what do you think of the line of questioning that WoS went with. Specifically his asking everyone to give a scum, and asking GB to give a yamato read




1) I thought rayn was awake based on his post just before the deadline where he said he'll stay up for the deadline. Not to mention that I didn't like his starting posts that much either. Reminds me too much of Titanic I guess.

2) I'm phone posting now so a bit hard to go through WOS filter, but I just didn't feel any malicious intent with WOS. He was basically hanging around in the thread and discussing naturally with anyone. As scum it's kind of a natural instinct to hide away from the thread when it's not necessary to discuss something. WOS just felt like he enjoyed chatting in the thread as opposed to being afraid.

1) This is bullshit and you know it. Drop the being awake reasoning and find things that are actually scummy please.
2) This can be true but it is certainly not true for Wave. He has no problem at all with casually discussing things as scum. Like you said he was just hanging around. He didn't push anything.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
August 22 2014 11:50 GMT
#271
Btw I think you are not talking about titanic I, right? Rayn was town that game.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 22 2014 11:54 GMT
#272
I mean the latest Titanic game. Forgot name.

Can you link a scumgame where WOS is being all casual and active in thread? I'll look when I get home.

I was just referring to the awake thing because someone asked/talked to me about it.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
August 22 2014 11:54 GMT
#273
Me = town
JAT = town
Rayn = probably town
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
August 22 2014 11:57 GMT
#274
On August 22 2014 20:54 Xatalos wrote:
I mean the latest Titanic game. Forgot name.

Can you link a scumgame where WOS is being all casual and active in thread? I'll look when I get home.

I was just referring to the awake thing because someone asked/talked to me about it.

Yeah? To me it looked like you called him scum for that.
Wave was scum in the championship game that finished recently if you want to take a look. The scum qt is also worth a skim in that regard.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 22 2014 12:00 GMT
#275
On August 22 2014 20:57 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2014 20:54 Xatalos wrote:
I mean the latest Titanic game. Forgot name.

Can you link a scumgame where WOS is being all casual and active in thread? I'll look when I get home.

I was just referring to the awake thing because someone asked/talked to me about it.

Yeah? To me it looked like you called him scum for that.
Wave was scum in the championship game that finished recently if you want to take a look. The scum qt is also worth a skim in that regard.


Oh you meant my original note post. Well I didn't call him scum for it just a bit concerned about him.

I'll look.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
August 22 2014 12:03 GMT
#276
I am not saying Waves start resembles the one in that game btw. he had time problems that game and he was immediately questioned by some people. But you can see that he has no problem with being talkative later in the game and from what he says in the qt.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
August 22 2014 12:05 GMT
#277
Good morning. Lovely day.

It seems like this is the game I'll find 12 people scum and 1 townie. Awesome.
I'm adorable.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
August 22 2014 12:06 GMT
#278
Rayn you scum?
I'm adorable.
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
August 22 2014 12:07 GMT
#279
On August 22 2014 21:05 GlowingBear wrote:
Good morning. Lovely day.

It seems like this is the game I'll find 12 people scum and 1 townie. Awesome.

Forced
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
August 22 2014 12:07 GMT
#280
On August 22 2014 21:07 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2014 21:05 GlowingBear wrote:
Good morning. Lovely day.

It seems like this is the game I'll find 12 people scum and 1 townie. Awesome.

Forced

Don't know if forced but certainly useless.
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