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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 22 2014 10:31 GMT
#221
not posting at night despite apparently staying up around the deadline...

back this up
and somehow his reads feel a bit too certain/forced?

back this up
let's just say null with some concern for now

you just called me mafia but i am now null?
I'm guessing there's some scum among Hapa/jat/Onegu/VA.

Your scumnullread just said pretty much the exact same thing except for VA is most likely town.
Why was i scum again? Oh i forgot.. i wasn't, i was null...

Like what are you actually saying and how does anything you say make any sense at all?
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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 22 2014 10:31 GMT
#222
Care to explain why I'm scum though?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 22 2014 10:32 GMT
#223
You make literally no sense in anything you say.
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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 22 2014 10:35 GMT
#224
On August 22 2014 08:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Fuck it i am gonna be awake until role PM because i can(not).


Or was this false info?

On August 22 2014 17:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Oh it WAS Wave. Wave explain the question you asked. Why?
Show nested quote +
If you had to pick a scummer based on people who have posted right now, who and why?

Glowingbear explain why you answered the question when you do not even think KSC is necessarily mafia?


WOS -> scum because of asking a single question? What?

I didn't call you scum, I said there were some worrying things so far. That's null / slight scum lean. Something in between.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 22 2014 10:35 GMT
#225
You could also see that from you having -1 points
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 22 2014 10:39 GMT
#226
So you somehow know i did not fell asleep a half an hour before the game start? How do you know this?
You can't call my reads forced when you do not know what my reads are even based on.
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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 22 2014 10:39 GMT
#227
If anyone is confused: -10 = certain scum, 10 = certain town, anything in between = uncertain, 0 = null
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 22 2014 10:41 GMT
#228
On August 22 2014 19:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So you somehow know i did not fell asleep a half an hour before the game start? How do you know this?
You can't call my reads forced when you do not know what my reads are even based on.


So you did? That's good to know. You just said that you'll stay up for the deadline pretty near when the game started so I assumed you did.

Can you explain your WOS read then? Because it seemed pretty strange especially since I didn't notice anything scummy about WOS.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 22 2014 10:42 GMT
#229
No i don't. Tonight i will. waiting for Hapa to post first.
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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 22 2014 10:43 GMT
#230
What does that achieve?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 22 2014 10:44 GMT
#231
Btw when did I ever call you scum? No matter how I look I can't see anything more severe than "null with some concern" in my notes.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 22 2014 10:46 GMT
#232
Oh so you're expecting Hapa to explain your read.... >.>

On August 22 2014 17:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Yes Kelsier is almost definitely town.
when Hapa posts i am expecting him to tell everyone why i am voting for Wave.
I gotta get back to work now. brb in ~5h.

"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 22 2014 10:50 GMT
#233
But yeah GB seems very strongly town. His posts were just so much more forced and unfocused in the Arnie game. Here he's been posting constructively constantly.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 22 2014 10:50 GMT
#234
Two things:

First. If i am town and awake i do post. If i am mafia and awake i do post. If i am town and asleep i can't post. If i am mafia and asleep i can't post. I have never in my life intentionally lurked as mafia (i do that as town though for reasons) except for in Noir when Mocsta fakeclaimed medic as town to get the real medic lynched and i was having in scum QT with Pandain.
You should know that.

Second. I have a tendency to not explain my reads fully because i want to encourage other people to think and find the reasons by themsleves. Because it helps me getting a better read on them and that's how i play - and have always played.
You should know that.

So yes, your first post had absolutely no thought behind it, even though you SHOULD know these things and pay more attention to what i say and try to figure out why i say the stuff i do. You didn't, and that makes me think you are mafia.
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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 22 2014 10:52 GMT
#235
Kelsier is probably town too because he antagonized everyone in the thread and pretty much tryharded too much for it to be just fake tryharding. As scum he should have been a bit more friendly / less stubborn.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 22 2014 10:56 GMT
#236
On August 22 2014 19:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Two things:

First. If i am town and awake i do post. If i am mafia and awake i do post. If i am town and asleep i can't post. If i am mafia and asleep i can't post. I have never in my life intentionally lurked as mafia (i do that as town though for reasons) except for in Noir when Mocsta fakeclaimed medic as town to get the real medic lynched and i was having in scum QT with Pandain.
You should know that.

Second. I have a tendency to not explain my reads fully because i want to encourage other people to think and find the reasons by themsleves. Because it helps me getting a better read on them and that's how i play - and have always played.
You should know that.

So yes, your first post had absolutely no thought behind it, even though you SHOULD know these things and pay more attention to what i say and try to figure out why i say the stuff i do. You didn't, and that makes me think you are mafia.


Well granted I suspected you in Neat & Tidy (I was onevone) for not explaining your reads and just senselessly pushing me early in the game. And you were town, so clearly you could do this (not explain anything + push me with senseless conviction) as town. On the other hand, you did it in Titanic too as scum (not explaining much of anything and pushing me early on). In the Arnie game you explained your thoughts very clearly and that's what made me think you were town. I guess what I mean is that your reads being good + well reasoned makes you town, your reads being bad + unreasoned makes you null.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 22 2014 10:58 GMT
#237
And you cannot know my reasoning because i haven't given it so you can't call me out for it.
You just can't call my reads forced when you do not know what i base them on.
YOU CAN'T! unless you are scum.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 22 2014 10:59 GMT
#238
Also you didn't even answer a single point on my post. You just wrote some fluff.
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justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16326 Posts
August 22 2014 11:00 GMT
#239
On August 22 2014 16:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am pretty sure there is at least 2 mafia in:
Hapa, Onegu, JAT, Xatalos.

pretty sure.

Great contribution bro.
On August 22 2014 16:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
all the people who have posted look town.
except i have missed the point where someone asked the question i just quoted.

Explain to me why you think damdred is town.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 22 2014 11:04 GMT
#240
Well the reasoning you have so far is "this single question is scummy" or something pretty much? Maybe you have something else in store, I sure hope so. I can't know until you say it.

I just explained clearly why you not explaining stuff is null while you explaining stuff is towny based on your earlier games. That should answer your second question. The first question... Ugh. How "should" I know your behaviour's every aspect? Plus I think you're a bit more lurky as scum than town so I don't necessarily think that's even true.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
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