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Lets get down to business, to defeat the mafia. (God that was awful) | ||
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Also I think the Bang, Marry Kill is a great idea. Can't wait to use it. | ||
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On August 26 2014 16:19 abuse wrote: I want to start this all off with a few simple questions for you guys - What alignment did you get?(town or scum) What were you hoping to get? What do you think of the Lynch all Lurkers and Lynch all Liars policies? I am town aligned and it was what i was hoping for. I don't think i would be a fan of Lynch all Lurkers as this is a newbie game and people such as myself find it hard to post unless questions are posed to them. (hopefully i can improve on this) I don't know where i stand on Lynch all liars though. | ||
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MihZaaa His first few posts made me feel uneasy as first he commented on how he thought jenny would change her play style as to avoid being killed during the night as town and then went on to say he likes being a town power role as it is easier to not get yourself lynched. To me this just feels like a bad mindset for the majority of towns people as survival isn’t what most of us should be worried about. I havn't actually been able to get any other reads from everything else he has said Barakos I have liked almost everything Barakos has said specifically his answers to abuses questions. Also his mention of the soft cop claim, its day 1 and if that actually really was a soft claim what would be the point of pointing it so I agree fully with him there. Abuse This is my top town. Contrary to what some other people think I believe the questions he asked were great. Even though the first two might not give that much information look at how much content it has caused. To build on that if he actually did not purposefully answer them himself to see who would call him out on it I like it even more. He has actively put himself in the spotlight, when no one was really being pushed on, to try and cause discussion and it has worked. I was hoping to get my thoughts down about jenny, superbia and meatpudding as well but I overslept and have to leave for uni. I should be back in around 4 and a half hours though to finish this off. Sorry for the lack of content and any questions you have for me ill be happy to answer when I get back. | ||
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Jennyhell Jenny seeming towny in the earlier parts of the thread dont make me town read her. She pointed out meatpuddings change of play from last game so it makes sense to me that if she was Mafia she would be making sure her play did not change from the previous game. One of the only reads she gave while lengthy ended in a neutral read on MihZaa. While the read was very thought out I don't like that she has not taken a stance on anyone in particular yet. Meatpudding I feel like I should have a definite town read on you but I don't. I agree with a lot of things you have said especially town reading people for not putting jenny in their town circles just yet. May I ask though why in reply to abuses questions did you feel the need to specifically claim VT and not just town. Im not looking that much into this I'm just intrigued. Superbia I dislike your push on abuse. You asked him how explaining his playstyle is helpful to town saying that this was just something he could fall back on for scummy play when you yourself were talking about “private reads”. Couldn't mentioning these be seen in the same way as a scapegoat to fall back on after a scummy play? Also was your vote for me just to try and make me talk? If not what changed between your vote on me and your vote on abuse? | ||
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On August 27 2014 19:26 Breshke wrote: Meatpudding May I ask though why in reply to abuses questions did you feel the need to specifically claim VT and not just town. Im not looking that much into this I'm just intrigued. Eh, weird question. I specifically claimed VT as well (as did others), why are you pushing on MeatProp?[/QUOTE] I actually didn't realize others had claimed VT to be honest. The fact that more people did it makes me feel less bad about it because one person claiming VT is just someone mafia knows not to kill whereas the more there is the less that works | ||
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Gobbleydook I really did not like his inital push on meatpudding and abuse. It seemed like he only read enough to get a scum read and then decided it would be a good idea to post. While this being careless might actually mean that he is town and not mafia as a member of the scum probably wouldnt come out so fast and hard against two of the more active members of the town. I think you will find your scumhunting approach incorrect. Usually the assholes get lynched and flip town. It's because mafia have nothing to gain by insulting everyone. The mafia's greatest hope is that everyone forgets about them. I don't like this, it feels like your just giving yourself an excuse to act like a dick. You then go onto give a reason you think lilwade is scummy but say superbia is scummy for no reason i can find, care to explain? | ||
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I have liked all of lilwades posts. I agreed with most of his reads in post 109. I also liked his reactions to dooks first few posts and the fact that he didn't push too aggressively when he misread the one with stuffed up quotes. Although why when talking about day 1 lynches do you not suggest the person you are currently voting for? Is this because you don't think they would get the required votes? | ||
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I Am Town I wholeheartedly agree that im not providing much original content and to you guys my reads must seem fairly general and not providing much if any insight. While i dont disagree with dook saying im useless i don't so how being so abrupt is useful at all ## Vote: gobbledydook You may not be mafia but you are anti town | ||
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Towncircle abuse lilwade meatpudding Scum MihZaa Gobbledydook Everyone else not leaning enough either way for me yet | ||
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I have null on 3 people right? its 9 player game is my maths wrong? I think is ridiculous that anyone claims a read on daydreammarine they have had like one post. And my read on you and superbia arnt exactly neutral, you are leaning town for me jenny but i didnt want to put you in my town circle whereas superbia is leaning mafia but in no way do i want to lynch him today | ||
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2.Mihzaa 3.Superbia | ||
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On August 28 2014 08:31 Barakos wrote: nvm - way too slow... But do you care how your change of heart considering meatpudding comes? Last thing you wrote about him before asking your question about the vanilla town claims was, that you feel you should have a townread on him but you don't. What changed your mind? Someone else i believe it was superbia pointed out that others claimed VT aswell. Im not a fan of people claiming VT as it jsut narrows down mafias kill zone but when half the game seems to do it then it loses its credibility. On top of that i like how he reacted to dooks push on him and abuse | ||
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On August 28 2014 08:34 JennyHell wrote: Breshke about gobble: Still voting on him. Superbia about gobble: How about you vote on someone you actually think is mafia then? Barakos caveat about gobble lynch: I know Barakos had strong reads on Gobble before so I feel his vote is the most justified, but all of you are voting on this guy even though you have caveats. I agree i was looking on him with a towny light but he seemed to just flip out. I'm not going to lynch someone just because they get Bm so "oh he must be town" that sets a bad standard. If people don't understand your reads its your job to try and explain them. | ||
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Dook may be town but he may also be mafia, you have been fighting to save him more than he has and other than his first intial pushes he has hasnt explained his reads on anyone other than you. | ||
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##Vote: MihZaaa | ||
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Also on jenny, I don't like how almost everyone is reading her as so town for trying to get votes off of dook. She seemed to have dook in her scum reads until after he bm'd. She has now pointed out more towny things he has done and explained the read on dooks emotion but if Jenny is mafia this was an easy way to get town points. I'm not saying this makes her mafia but I don't think she should be fully read town because of this. Also jenny for a second imagine that you are a cop with a town check on me. Who then would you think the two scum are? Ill try answer the stuff asked of me during the night phase sorry for the inactivity | ||
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lilwade was in my town reads because of his reaction to dooks initial posts. He pointed out what was wrong with it and even tried to interpret the post with qutoes that failed even though it wasn’t about him. My first problem with mihzaa was as I pointed out he already seemed to focused on survival with his first few posts. This immediately made me feel he was scum, nothing he wrote after this made me feel any better about himso he was still in my mafia reads. @Barakos Ill try talk you through the thought process of my votes. It starts with dook bm'ing and also calling me useless. This annoyed me a fair bit because yes I conceded ive been fairly useless this game msotly just agreeing with people and such but this is a noobie game and my first game of forum mafia ever and I had been trying to produce content but it just wasn’t happening whereas people than asked dook to explain his reads and he refused to. Him calling me useless felt ironic to me but yes my initial vote looking back was probably a omgus. Jenny then started defending him and pointing out that this could be town behaviour which made me realise my vote was very rash. At this stage I wanted to change my vote to mihzaa as he was someone I actually thought was mafia. Mihzaa was not active though so I didn't know If voting him would be seen as bad mannerd. Lilwade then voted on him so this cleared this up for me and dook finally explained his read on abuse which in my mind showed he was interested in playing the game again. I then changed my vote. | ||
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For me it was a bonus that Jenny was the other person that was role blocked as at the time i was starting to live in a world where as i explained previously jennys defense of dook was just an easy way to get town points and she was going to coast her way to an easy victory. Now that she has claimed role blocked i think that world would be less likely as she could have just kept that information to herself and on the off chance she is lieing i think that situation will resolve itself. | ||
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Daydreammarine Never lynch this person Bang Abuse As others have pointed out most likely roleblocked by mafia. I don't think mafia roleblock a partner here. During the night they would have still been thinking that there could be a a cop and a doctor and i think trying to block one of these roles would have taken much higher priority than roleblocking a partner just so he could claim it Superbia Sticking to his vote at the end of the day there seems towny to me. People are saying that i seem to follow what other people do and this seems scummy so shouldnt you be reading superbias vote at the end of the day there towny as hell. His vote was on the person who had majority but he was the only one active in the thread at the time. Jenny As stated above Kill MihZaa Barakos, Lilwade (im not avoding putting these two into my reads i just want to think about it more but lilwae is leaning scum and barakos is leaning town at the moment | ||
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Also if you think superbia is mafia, who do you think his partner is? I went and looked back and for how active he has been him and lilwade have had almost no interaction. qith only a quick filter dive into both of them they have never really given a fully fleashed out read on eachother superbia having lilwade as leaning town and lilwade having superbia as neutral. I think if superbia flips mafia lilwade is most likely his partner. | ||
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##Vote: MihZaaa Not having posted at all today nor explained your vote on dook atop of me reading you scum the first day doesn't paint you in a good light. Ill be going to bed now but unless something unforeseen happens i will be up 2 and a bit hours before the deadline. | ||
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Barakos moved down in my town list because he seemingly gave jenny all this town cred for stuff that i thought didn't really matter like her vote on dook. He is back in my town circle now one of the reasons being this. gg meatpudding - your death will not be in vain! This kill... it doesn't make any sense to me. Going through mps stuff. There has to be something he said, that triggered this kill. Because I can't believe that superbias promise to dive through any of us was enough to make scum not shoot any of the three of us... we have been reevaluating each other several times now... There has to be a stronger motive - I'll go digging! And then when abuse outed that he was blocked Abuse: Thanks for sharing the pm with ous - not sure, what to make of it right now, will give it some thought. I am not sure, if we really should be speculating about powerroles right now, as it is daytime and powerroles don't matter that much. On the other hand this pm leaves us with 3 possible role-setups. 2 of them include a mafia roleblocker. This would make the kill on meatpudding way more understandable to me, because if mafia has a roleblocker, they know, that there is either a medic or a jailer in town, which means they have to plan their kills around the possible safes, to ensure a kill. This would mean, that there is a high likelyhood that they didn't really want to shoot meatpudding, but went for him, as it was a pretty safe bet, that he would not be protected and they would not waste their shot. I think if he was mafia he could have just not commented on this as i don't think that by this time anyone had brought up this reasoning yet? | ||
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On August 31 2014 09:44 Superbia wrote: You do your mafia actions in private though. I meant he seemingly hasnt been here since D1. Anyways it doesn't really matter its not something that would make me change my vote. | ||
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On August 31 2014 10:13 Superbia wrote: Let's hope for PR magic. We need it. This | ||
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Again sorry about all the sheeping! | ||
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