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Hello people~
I see people have taken note of my name already - which is lovely.
Seems like timezones are quite an issue in this game, as the voting was very close and in the end the less fortunate time for me was voted in, and due to this the phases change at *drumroll* 4 am for me. Which is awesome + Show Spoiler +
Hopefully the reason that a few people have not posted yet is the timezones, as it sucks quite hard if people have to be replaced early on due to inactivity..
I have read quite a lot through the previous newbie game, though not the first days (when Jenny was still alive). I might have to look more into it later.
I also want to note that I am usually quite vocal in my games and like to push people who I find suspicious. (Push hard if the regular pushes have no effect on getting a reaction from the person in question.)
I want to start this all off with a few simple questions for you guys -
What alignment did you get?(town or scum)
What were you hoping to get?
What do you think of the Lynch all Lurkers and Lynch all Liars policies?
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On August 26 2014 16:19 abuse wrote:
I want to start this all off with a few simple questions for you guys -
What alignment did you get?(town or scum)
What were you hoping to get?
What do you think of the Lynch all Lurkers and Lynch all Liars policies?
I am town aligned and it was what i was hoping for. I don't think i would be a fan of Lynch all Lurkers as this is a newbie game and people such as myself find it hard to post unless questions are posed to them. (hopefully i can improve on this) I don't know where i stand on Lynch all liars though.
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Hello fellow princesses. Let us cleanse the world of wickedness shall we?
So there's been some activity while I was asleep and even though I mostly got some town vibes I'm a little weary about you JennyHell. You're being active a lot and that's great for reads but when you said that you were killed night 1 for being to towny I immediately thought why would he put himself out there so much once more. Wouldn't he be a little more lurky at least day one? (not necessarily completely silent but it's undeniable that the attention is on you right now). Maybe it's just my inexperience with forum mafia speaking but I'm not sure how comfortable I am with the disproportion between how much you've spoken and how many reads you gave. Three if you count the Superbia appreciation but I don't think I see that as a solid read.
You did give mostly your scum reads which I think as mafia you would have tried to get people to like you instead of pressing them so that's why you're still in my princess circle.I do want to hear from you day 2 because I feel like if you are town you are being a valuable princess to have and if you are mafia it's good that you talk a lot so we can see the wickedness inside your heart. As think as the day goes on we can find better lynches.
I did like Superbia's inquiry in regards to meatpalm's playstyle and by extension I didn't like Barakos attacking him. It's still pretty early in the day and my reads right now haven't got much heft to them. I'm looking forward to see more people talk though.
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On August 26 2014 16:19 abuse wrote:Hello people~ I see people have taken note of my name already - which is lovely. Seems like timezones are quite an issue in this game, as the voting was very close and in the end the less fortunate time for me was voted in, and due to this the phases change at *drumroll* 4 am for me. Which is awesome + Show Spoiler +Hopefully the reason that a few people have not posted yet is the timezones, as it sucks quite hard if people have to be replaced early on due to inactivity.. I have read quite a lot through the previous newbie game, though not the first days (when Jenny was still alive). I might have to look more into it later. I also want to note that I am usually quite vocal in my games and like to push people who I find suspicious. (Push hard if the regular pushes have no effect on getting a reaction from the person in question.) I want to start this all off with a few simple questions for you guys - What alignment did you get?(town or scum)What were you hoping to get?What do you think of the Lynch all Lurkers and Lynch all Liars policies?
Hello darling, I see you've come in and hit us with some questions. I will approach those soon enough, but let me start with punching you back.
You said you've read quite a lot of the previous newbie game, but not the first days. Was it someone in particular you were trying to get info on by doing that? Because only 3 of the people from the previous game is currently playing and if you say "Not the first days" dayS, means more than 1 right? I died n1, and meatpicture was lynched d2, so the only one you could possibly have seen that might be benificial for this game is lilwade.
I'd defo urge you to read day 1 and 2 as well, otherwise your dive into the previous game is almost completely fruitless. Just fyi.
Now to your questions, although I can see why someone would make such a play, I'm not a huge fan of it. Too easy for scum to hide. But I'll indulge you. Else you might just hit me again.
I am top town, yay me!
Couldn't care less if I was mafia or town. I like the game in general and don't care which side of the spectrum I am on.
The policies all depend on who fall under those categories. I prefer to try to read people based on what they have given, rather than come out of the bat and just get rid of the stragglers. Some people are bound to do less than others, and it's not necessarily indicative of either a mafia or town alignment.
Killing all liars? You know it's a game of lies a deceit right? And there might be moments where town will have to go out of their way and say things that may not be 100% truthful, in order to save their asses from people being wrong, yeah? Or mafia pushing on them and getting town on the wrong path.
I hope that gave you the insight you were looking for. Again, just to remind you, read day 1 and 2 in the last newbie game.
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To answer your questions abuse:
Nobody will answer scum and even if they do, a little bit of trolling I don't think is alignment indicative, if anything it gives me more town vibes.
Was hoping to get a power roll of some sort because sometimes defending yourself as vanilla town can be very frustrating when you don't convince people that have gotten fixated on you.
I don't like lynch all lurkers, I prefer don't play with the lurker next game. Some times especially in newbie games vt will lurk and mislynching is not worth it just to be righteous.
As to lynch all liars, i do like it when for example when people claim roles to protect the real ones but those are very rare occasions so even though i wouldn't bilindly lynch a liar I sure would keep an eye on him and have him in my scum side.
I'll have to go now for up to 5 hours but I will resume as soon as i get back home.
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On August 26 2014 16:42 MihZaaa wrote:
Hello fellow princesses. Let us cleanse the world of wickedness shall we?
So there's been some activity while I was asleep and even though I mostly got some town vibes I'm a little weary about you JennyHell. You're being active a lot and that's great for reads but when you said that you were killed night 1 for being to towny I immediately thought why would he put himself out there so much once more. Wouldn't he be a little more lurky at least day one? (not necessarily completely silent but it's undeniable that the attention is on you right now). Maybe it's just my inexperience with forum mafia speaking but I'm not sure how comfortable I am with the disproportion between how much you've spoken and how many reads you gave. Three if you count the Superbia appreciation but I don't think I see that as a solid read.
You did give mostly your scum reads which I think as mafia you would have tried to get people to like you instead of pressing them so that's why you're still in my princess circle.I do want to hear from you day 2 because I feel like if you are town you are being a valuable princess to have and if you are mafia it's good that you talk a lot so we can see the wickedness inside your heart. As think as the day goes on we can find better lynches.
I did like Superbia's inquiry in regards to meatpalm's playstyle and by extension I didn't like Barakos attacking him. It's still pretty early in the day and my reads right now haven't got much heft to them. I'm looking forward to see more people talk though.
Hi MihZaaaa, we shall indeed cleanse the world!
Whether I am mafia or town I would still play the exact same way, or at least try to, so that in the off chance I would get mafia in a game in the future it'll be easier for me to seem towny.
I like that you are being wary of me. I am not confirmed to anyone but myself, but that said, I am a good ally to have in this world where wickedness have taken over. We need to banish it once and for all and save all of disneytopia!
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Also, MihZaa, you said you didn't like the disproportion of my amount of posts and how few reads I've given.
How many reads do you honestly think is appropriate this early in to the game?
How many do you think you could possibly give?
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On August 26 2014 16:19 abuse wrote:
I want to start this all off with a few simple questions for you guys -
What alignment did you get?(town or scum)
What were you hoping to get?
What do you think of the Lynch all Lurkers and Lynch all Liars policies?
Firstly, I am very wary of those who ask general questions, without providing their own answers first. Same goes for Jenny's MBK list, although I think it's way too early for that. At this point I think anyone could be a wicked one, and I'm not about to start trusting a single person until the day goes on.
Of Lynch all Lurkers, this has been invoked on me a couple of times so I have mixed feelings about it. It stands to reason that if there is no solid lynch candidate, to target a lurker on policy. It's always better to try and lynch a wicked one though. The greatest purpose of this policy is to make the scum fearful of lurking.
Lynch all Liars I don't believe in. In my experience, scum have been very careful about what they say to avoid lies and contradictions. Townsfolk will change their reads when they realise they've been tricked. It's a very townie trait to be changing it up as the day goes on. On the other hand, it's important to watch the MBK lists especially from D2 onwards. If you see someone giving a marry or a kill without good reason, chances are they are scum. Votes are the most important thing, if someone votes for a princess who's not on their kill list, be worried.
On August 26 2014 15:42 JennyHell wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2014 15:35 meatpudding wrote:
Maybe I'm too much of a newbie, but isn't this the opposite of true? More activity means we can be assured to hunt down the wicked ones.
I think town have the chance to win either way, if we play it out correctly. If it's a slow ride, then nothing much to do about it. We can't force people to talk.. Unless we treat them like we treated you, meatpizza, and look where that got us... I had you night 1 though.. I had you meatpimp! I tried to call the hounds off, but noone listened to me, even though I was killed. You are correct though that it is easier to scum hunt if people are being active, because you have more to go from. The same way it's also easier to read people town that way. Let's just hope the activity picks up. Who knows, we might be riding Turbo soon enough! (Sorry Disney for bringing in Pixar references!)
No harm Jenny, you played a good game.
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On August 26 2014 16:51 JennyHell wrote:
You said you've read quite a lot of the previous newbie game, but not the first days. Was it someone in particular you were trying to get info on by doing that? Because only 3 of the people from the previous game is currently playing and if you say "Not the first days" dayS, means more than 1 right? I died n1, and meatpicture was lynched d2, so the only one you could possibly have seen that might be benificial for this game is lilwade.
I'd defo urge you to read day 1 and 2 as well, otherwise your dive into the previous game is almost completely fruitless. Just fyi.
I did not dive into them, I just followed the game as it happened(started following when it was about mid-way), when I wanted to find out how does mafia even happen in a forum environment. I will definitely read the first two days later.
On August 26 2014 16:55 MihZaaa wrote:
To answer your questions abuse:
Nobody will answer scum and even if they do, a little bit of trolling I don't think is alignment indicative, if anything it gives me more town vibes.
you'd be surprised what you can get from these questions. 
Just to be clear - I am a supporter of Lynch all Liars and Lynch all Lurkers, if I do not have a clear scumread on someone by the time it's time to vote.
In my mind, there is no real time when a townie lying would benefit town, so I would urge you not to do so, because if I catch you, I will push you. And chances are you will be scum when you flip afterwards.
I have also recently played with a very annoying lurker, who just deflected all questions and did not really give any information at all to town. Behavior like this will also be pushed HARD.
Hopefully we get a good town atmosphere going where everyone is open about their thoughts and reads so scum has nowhere to hide. Have fun peeps~
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On August 26 2014 17:02 meatpudding wrote:
Same goes for Jenny's MBK list, although I think it's way too early for that. At this point I think anyone could be a wicked one, and I'm not about to start trusting a single person until the day goes on.
I have yet to give a MBK list, because it's way too early. I merely explained what it all meant and suggested that we should all use that format. Don't see what's scummy about that.. Unless you are a dryball that doesn't appreciate bringing fun in to things, which you yourself expressed earlier that you thought it was obligatory that we brought some flavour into this disney game.
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@ meatpudding,
Fair enough -
I am town and was hoping for a town power role.
Waiting for your answer to this also.
As for the policies, I have explained my stance a little above.
You seem to have a bit little different view on the lynch all liars policy.
How I see is, if you get caught lying - not explain it yourself, beforehand, and why you are changing your mind, then it is scummy and you deserve a lynch. Town does not have a reason to lie, without a reason (if you catch my drift). If a lie like that is caught, then this policy would take effect.
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On August 26 2014 17:09 JennyHell wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2014 17:02 meatpudding wrote:
Same goes for Jenny's MBK list, although I think it's way too early for that. At this point I think anyone could be a wicked one, and I'm not about to start trusting a single person until the day goes on.
I have yet to give a MBK list, because it's way too early. I merely explained what it all meant and suggested that we should all use that format. Don't see what's scummy about that.. Unless you are a dryball that doesn't appreciate bringing fun in to things, which you yourself expressed earlier that you thought it was obligatory that we brought some flavour into this disney game.
I agree it is way too early. I'm not objecting to the use of the format, I love it. I think that asking people to give reads so early is meaningless. (Should be obvious)
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On August 26 2014 17:10 abuse wrote:
@ meatpudding,
Fair enough -
I am town and was hoping for a town power role.
Waiting for your answer to this also.
As for the policies, I have explained my stance a little above.
You seem to have a bit little different view on the lynch all liars policy.
How I see is, if you get caught lying - not explain it yourself, beforehand, and why you are changing your mind, then it is scummy and you deserve a lynch. Town does not have a reason to lie, without a reason (if you catch my drift). If a lie like that is caught, then this policy would take effect.
I'm VT and that's the only role I've played before. I like it.
I guess there is a distinction between a lie told on purpose and a change of opinion.
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On August 26 2014 11:38 JennyHell wrote:
May I also suggest that we all give reads in Bang, Marry, Kill format? It's something I started on DailyMafia and will continue here, whether you like it or not ;D
Upon re-reading I think that is what you were trying to say. I thought that you were asking us to give reads right away.
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On August 26 2014 17:02 JennyHell wrote:
Also, MihZaa, you said you didn't like the disproportion of my amount of posts and how few reads I've given.
How many reads do you honestly think is appropriate this early in to the game?
How many do you think you could possibly give?
No, not at all. When i said that you had given plenty of reads for how early it was. The disproportion stemmed from the multitude and length of posts and not from too few reads. Again, this is a minor thing though.
What I would like to see is more from lilwade though. He may be asleep right now because I see he lives in the us but I'm interested in the fact that he asked for reads but ultimately did not contribute. I see that as a little scummy as if he's testing the waters with his toe before putting himself at all in the spotlight. I'll wait 10-12 more hours before I form an opinion based on being lurky. Daydreamarine is in the same boat.
In regards to the kill, bang, marry thing I think i'm in a bang jennyhell spot because I liked your reads and because I think you would have been more reluctant to take the microphone so hard day 1 had you been mafia. I'm too young to get married though.
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So.. anyone else have anything to say, or is everyone asleep? :[
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At work, so i will try to post some thoughts... if you have any questions, ask them, i will answer, when i am at home in ~3h
First of, to get this out of the world (at least I hope so):
I didn't mean to attack superbia. I liked the irony and wanted to point it out, because I found it funny. I may be new to forummafia but i wouldn't go as far as calling people scum because of their names. I also could have added some smileys to make the intention behind the post a bit clearer.
For what it's worth: 'Barakos' is a name I took out of a Warhammer Fantasy Battlereport, where the author named his Strigoi-Vampirecount 'Barakos' and i've been using the name ever since, so if you want a 'scummy' name... there you got it. 
Hope, that will be all, there is left to say about the name-discussion... now for the important stuff:
On Jenny:
I think Jenny is playing very similar to the last Newbie-Mafia and trys to get the thread going / is very vocal, so seeing that she was town the last game, I read her as town for now, although i am not very sure, since she stated herself:
On August 26 2014 16:59 JennyHell wrote:
Whether I am mafia or town I would still play the exact same way, or at least try to, so that in the off chance I would get mafia in a game in the future it'll be easier for me to seem towny.
Still most towny person at the moment.
On Abuse:
I didn't like you posting questions before answering them yourself... especially the ones, where you ask for the opinions on lurker- and liar-lynches.. It looks to me, as if you were trying to get yourselft the permission to lurk for a while... granted: you answered your questions when you were asked, still I found this a bit odd and will keep an eye on you.
And to answer your questions:
My alignment is town, but i kinda hoped i would roll mafia. I absolutely hate playing in the dark, so i would have loved to know, who is friend and who is foe. Now i will have to trust my instincts... god help us all!
Lynching a liar is something that is very situation-dependend... like "Did the person lie to protect a powerrole at night?" vs. "Did sb. fakeclaim a powerrole at daytime to get the real powerrole lynched?".
Lynching the lurkers is something I would only resort to, if I had no better scumread on anybody else, since I think it is a quite weak motiv to lynch somebody and chances are high, the lynchee will flip town. That being said: this is my first forumgame, so I haven't really met any really annoying lurkers. Let's just hope, everybody is active in this game, so we can get solid reads.
On the other ones, that have posted so far:
There is not much I can read out of your posts so far... mostly due to the fact, that there aren't that many posts to read from.
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My reason for asking about lynching liars and lurkers served 3 purposes.
1) to get your thoughts out, so people can have a peek into each others brains a little
2) to make sure people were on the same end of the stick as me, when it comes to what constitues a "liar" and what constitues a "lurker". One of the things being - I don't mind lurkers as much if they are just inactive. I do on the other half mind a lurker that is being called out but keeps ignoring questions. I have had this happen in another game and it is very annoying and I will not tolerate this.
3) See how people react to the policies, as well as what alignments would they prefer to play. While it seems like it does not matter, since you can lie easily about what alignment you would want to play, I have found that knowing this information helps you paint a picture of a player.(for example, compare your answer of the first question to MihZaaa) Later down the game you can use this as a tool to see if they match it or not.
I really do not have a problem with answering these questions myself, but how often do you really see people asking questions to others while answering them themselves at first?
It also served a double purpose, to see who would call me out on it and how soon would it happen. Happened pretty soon, which is good.
Is everyone else really sleeping at the moment? we have only done 2 pages of in-game content in the first... many hours, and the previous newbie game had 30 pages in 1 day, let's step it up!
All in all @Barakos, I like what you're saying. Hopefully this level of openness will stick to everyone here.
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Correction - in Day 1, not in 1 Day.
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Vote Count – Day 1
Not voting (10): The fairest of the fair.
Currently, no one is set to be lynched with 0 votes.
As a reminder for resolving ties - a player becomes the new lynch target when that player has more votes than anyone else.
Please contact the mods if the vote count is incorrect. Thank you!
Day 1 will end in .
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