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Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
August 27 2014 23:54 GMT
#365
I can see the point of view where dook is town and just frustrated it makes sense to me, remember i was starting to read him as town. I was hasty and when he flipped out i had my own mini flip out of this guy has to go. I would put my vote somewhere else preferably Mihzaa but with the wagons seemingly being on himself and me i can't I know im town i don't know that about him
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
August 28 2014 00:06 GMT
#373
gobbledydook why did/do you want to lynch superbia. I kind of asked this before you have never given a reason for it.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
August 28 2014 00:09 GMT
#378
You could go to all and search the prompt for voting him
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
August 28 2014 00:17 GMT
#385
any chance to expand on why superbia is scum other than hahaha
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
August 28 2014 00:22 GMT
#392
I don't know how this normally goes but i don't want to start a wagon on someone who doesnt seem to be here. Especially when dook won't even answer one question i'm asking him.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
August 28 2014 00:25 GMT
#397
Jenny why are you alright with us voting Mihzaa?
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
August 28 2014 00:31 GMT
#401
So by your stance on voting are saying that at the moment in your mind there is no chance of me being town?

Dook may be town but he may also be mafia, you have been fighting to save him more than he has and other than his first intial pushes he has hasnt explained his reads on anyone other than you.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
August 28 2014 00:32 GMT
#404
##Unvote.
##Vote: MihZaaa
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
August 28 2014 00:40 GMT
#410
Jenny just so im clear why do you think im mafia, do you have any updated information after the last time you spoke on it.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
August 28 2014 00:52 GMT
#416
Jenny where did your townread of dook come from? Just from rereading a little he was second on your kill list for a moment there then suddenly you are defending him like he is your top town.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
August 29 2014 02:35 GMT
#509
I think the fact that superbia's vote stayed on dook even though jenny was trying so hard for him to change it proves more that he was town. How easy would it have been for him to switch his vote to me after being one of the first ones to say they had a scum read on me? Also even though he was around at the end of the day he could have just lurked, the fact that he left his vote where it was as actually moved him into my town circle. The only reason I can see that he wouldnt change his vote to me if he is mafia is if he is mafia with Mihzaa. This would be because after his vote change it would be 3-3 on me and dook and Mihzaa would have been at 2. This could have brought Mihzaa into danger of being lynched but ill have to go back and asses their interactions

Also on jenny, I don't like how almost everyone is reading her as so town for trying to get votes off of dook. She seemed to have dook in her scum reads until after he bm'd. She has now pointed out more towny things he has done and explained the read on dooks emotion but if Jenny is mafia this was an easy way to get town points. I'm not saying this makes her mafia but I don't think she should be fully read town because of this. Also jenny for a second imagine that you are a cop with a town check on me. Who then would you think the two scum are?

Ill try answer the stuff asked of me during the night phase sorry for the inactivity
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
August 29 2014 03:13 GMT
#510
@meatpudding (r.i.p)
lilwade was in my town reads because of his reaction to dooks initial posts. He pointed out what was wrong with it and even tried to interpret the post with qutoes that failed even though it wasn’t about him.

My first problem with mihzaa was as I pointed out he already seemed to focused on survival with his first few posts. This immediately made me feel he was scum, nothing he wrote after this made me feel any better about himso he was still in my mafia reads.

@Barakos
Ill try talk you through the thought process of my votes. It starts with dook bm'ing and also calling me useless. This annoyed me a fair bit because yes I conceded ive been fairly useless this game msotly just agreeing with people and such but this is a noobie game and my first game of forum mafia ever and I had been trying to produce content but it just wasn’t happening whereas people than asked dook to explain his reads and he refused to. Him calling me useless felt ironic to me but yes my initial vote looking back was probably a omgus. Jenny then started defending him and pointing out that this could be town behaviour which made me realise my vote was very rash. At this stage I wanted to change my vote to mihzaa as he was someone I actually thought was mafia. Mihzaa was not active though so I didn't know If voting him would be seen as bad mannerd. Lilwade then voted on him so this cleared this up for me and dook finally explained his read on abuse which in my mind showed he was interested in playing the game again. I then changed my vote.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
August 29 2014 14:13 GMT
#550
I don't think this is a question to the mod but if there is two mafia alive and one gets role blocked does it stop their kp for that night? Also if anyone else got role blocked you should out.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
August 29 2014 23:59 GMT
#587
I asked if anyone else was roadblocked because if abuse was jailed mafia knew exactly what setup it was, If he was blocked by mafia (which now seems most likely as jenny and others have pointed out) the mafia had a 50/50 on the setup. Seems like i will be one of the wagons at the end of the day so its likely we could go two days without lynching a mafia. Because of this i wanted to try and get as much information out there so mafia can't fakeclaim easily tomorrow.

For me it was a bonus that Jenny was the other person that was role blocked as at the time i was starting to live in a world where as i explained previously jennys defense of dook was just an easy way to get town points and she was going to coast her way to an easy victory. Now that she has claimed role blocked i think that world would be less likely as she could have just kept that information to herself and on the off chance she is lieing i think that situation will resolve itself.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
August 30 2014 00:22 GMT
#589
Marry
Daydreammarine
Never lynch this person

Bang
Abuse
As others have pointed out most likely roleblocked by mafia. I don't think mafia roleblock a partner here. During the night they would have still been thinking that there could be a a cop and a doctor and i think trying to block one of these roles would have taken much higher priority than roleblocking a partner just so he could claim it

Superbia
Sticking to his vote at the end of the day there seems towny to me. People are saying that i seem to follow what other people do and this seems scummy so shouldnt you be reading superbias vote at the end of the day there towny as hell. His vote was on the person who had majority but he was the only one active in the thread at the time.

Jenny
As stated above


Kill
MihZaa


Barakos, Lilwade (im not avoding putting these two into my reads i just want to think about it more but lilwae is leaning scum and barakos is leaning town at the moment
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
August 30 2014 14:15 GMT
#595
Barakos since you might be around, if you had been there at EoD would you have changed your vote if so on to who?
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
August 30 2014 14:52 GMT
#598
That's fair enough it makes sense that you couldnt really make that call knowing dook is town.

Also if you think superbia is mafia, who do you think his partner is? I went and looked back and for how active he has been him and lilwade have had almost no interaction. qith only a quick filter dive into both of them they have never really given a fully fleashed out read on eachother superbia having lilwade as leaning town and lilwade having superbia as neutral. I think if superbia flips mafia lilwade is most likely his partner.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
August 30 2014 15:27 GMT
#600
You seemed to analyse it much better than i did and cleared it up for me. I also think that abuses claim is now confirmed and i agree completly with the reasoning on how he was likely roleblocked by mafia. This makes Abuse my second top town if not equal with daydreammarine unless mafia was making a play (roleblocking one of their own) which again is very very very unlikely as it would have been such a huge risk as they still didn't know the setup, abuse is . Most of my problems with jenny this game have been that i have thought she is too town to be town. I realize that this is most likely paranoia and she is doing so many towny things for example fighting so hard to get the lynch of dook because she is town.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
August 30 2014 15:46 GMT
#604
I don't like that this will just look like im following someone else's lead again but

##Vote: MihZaaa

Not having posted at all today nor explained your vote on dook atop of me reading you scum the first day doesn't paint you in a good light. Ill be going to bed now but unless something unforeseen happens i will be up 2 and a bit hours before the deadline.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
August 30 2014 22:45 GMT
#652
@superbia
Barakos moved down in my town list because he seemingly gave jenny all this town cred for stuff that i thought didn't really matter like her vote on dook. He is back in my town circle now one of the reasons being this.


gg meatpudding - your death will not be in vain!
This kill... it doesn't make any sense to me.
Going through mps stuff. There has to be something he said, that triggered this kill.
Because I can't believe that superbias promise to dive through any of us was enough to make scum not shoot any of the three of us... we have been reevaluating each other several times now...

There has to be a stronger motive - I'll go digging!


And then when abuse outed that he was blocked

Abuse:
Thanks for sharing the pm with ous - not sure, what to make of it right now, will give it some thought.
I am not sure, if we really should be speculating about powerroles right now, as it is daytime and powerroles don't matter that much.
On the other hand this pm leaves us with 3 possible role-setups. 2 of them include a mafia roleblocker.
This would make the kill on meatpudding way more understandable to me, because if mafia has a roleblocker, they know, that there is either a medic or a jailer in town, which means they have to plan their kills around the possible safes, to ensure a kill.
This would mean, that there is a high likelyhood that they didn't really want to shoot meatpudding, but went for him, as it was a pretty safe bet, that he would not be protected and they would not waste their shot.


I think if he was mafia he could have just not commented on this as i don't think that by this time anyone had brought up this reasoning yet?
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