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On August 28 2014 05:14 JennyHell wrote:
Superbia, how invested do you feel in this game? Do you feel like you're being misread and if so, what would you be able to do differently to make people see you less scummy? Do you think mafia will try to stay under the radar or go out of their way and be one of the more noticable people?
I'm pretty invested in the game. I've put a lot of time and energy into it. It is my second mafia game ever, and my first forum mafia game, so I'm pretty excited about it all (this might seem like a hypocritical answer, but how invested I am in the game is a meta-question anyway, so expect a meta-answer).
Eh, to be honest, I care more about killing scum, if I seem a bit scummy in the process, then so be it. However, I don't want town to misslynch, so I'll try to keep it less chaotic, i.e. shorter posts, less jokes (alas  ). Since the game is progressing, it's probably less necessary to bait out information, so hopefully my reads will be easier to relate to.
Mafia will probably always try to stay under the radar until they are getting to the finishing point. One might pop up during day 2 to try and integrate into the town circle (if he/she's not there already). Probably the one who didn't vote on a miss lynch (if we get one today). I really really hope we get a lynch today, because it would the game so much easier.
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On August 28 2014 05:23 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2014 05:20 JennyHell wrote:
Superbia, another thing. What's your current thoughts about abuse? Your vote is on him, do you still feel he's the most likely to be mafia? I'm not sure about him. Many people are reading him town, including MeatPoppy. I'd like to lynch him at some point, but maybe not today? I'll see where my vote goes as the dark approaches.
So if not him, who would you rather see us lynching today?
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On August 28 2014 05:32 JennyHell wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2014 05:23 Superbia wrote:On August 28 2014 05:20 JennyHell wrote:
Superbia, another thing. What's your current thoughts about abuse? Your vote is on him, do you still feel he's the most likely to be mafia? I'm not sure about him. Many people are reading him town, including MeatPoppy. I'd like to lynch him at some point, but maybe not today? I'll see where my vote goes as the dark approaches. So if not him, who would you rather see us lynching today?
Probably dook or Breshke. I liked dook's initial read on abuse (because it was similar to mine), but his flip on me and his excuses ("this is how I play") seemed off. I'd probably go for dook, though it might seem like an easy target in my position, my Breshke read is not that substantial and he's been very lurky. I don't like to kill lurkers for obvious reasons. At this point I just want more information. I wish more people interacted with my push. I only got a definite townread (for now) off it.
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I suppose my vote is not doing much at the moment, since there's no way we're lynching abuse (unfortunately, imo).
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Vote Count – Day 1
Breshke (0): Superbia
Abuse (0): Superbia, gobbledydook
Superbia (2): Meatpudding, JennyHell
gobbledydook (3): Abuse, MihZaaa, Barakos
Not voting (5): lilwade, gobbledydook, Breshke, Daydreamarine, Superbia
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Okay!
Seeing your responses to my questions I am beginning to like you a bit more. I'm willing to change my vote from you.
You're probably just misunderstood town.. FFFFf.. haha.
You're getting a townpass for today, I want to see more from you during the night and tomorrow.
I'll instead put my vote on Breshke.
Why I'm choosing him out of my scum reads is because out of my scumreads he's the only one that's manage to skip reading 3 people in the game.
Last game the mafia people didn't have any interactions and didn't even give reads on eachother. I fear that is what Breshke might be doing here.
There's nothing majorly wrong with his logic, but I think it may come from a scum perspective.
I feel Breshke is a good wagon and he himself said he had difficulties posting unless questions are posed to him. So maybe a wagon will make him come out of his shell.
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On August 28 2014 04:57 JennyHell wrote:
Marry
I'm not quite ready to marry someone yet, but I do have a keen eye for Barakos.
How about we do a temporary engagement. Will you be my lovely bride?
As tempting as it sounds to have you as my bastion of light, hope and all that is good in this world of wickedness... I am afraid I can't fully commit to being your bride right now.
But let's talk some more and see, where it goes from here, shall we?
You say lilwade is playing like last game and therefore have him in your banglist for now, even though he isn't very active.
And at the same time your feeling about meatpudding is, that he plays a different game as last time, yet still you give him enough credit to put him on your banglist - at least for a one night stand.
So my question is - why do you treat both the same, while only one of them is behaving as he used to do in the last game?
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Vote Count – Day 1
Breshke (1): Superbia, JennyHell
Abuse (0): Superbia, gobbledydook
Superbia (2): Meatpudding, JennyHell, gobbledydook
gobbledydook (3): Abuse, MihZaaa, Barakos
Not voting (4): lilwade, Breshke, Daydreamarine, Superbia
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people need to actually vote. voting is mandatory.
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On August 28 2014 01:16 Barakos wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2014 21:36 gobbledydook wrote:
What's wrong with proposing a scumduo? If you don't agree, that's fine, but scumreading someone for not having the same opinion is not fine.
You overemphasize 'getting the thread going'. The thread is going to get going regardless of any person posting sooner or later on day 1. If I wanted I could also post a ton of open questions to 'get the thread going' but that's not the point. The point of discussion is to provide insight.
Now that abuse has posted his list of reads I think he's town. I think he has put a massive effort into solving this game. The only thing I don't like is he omguses me, but that's fine I can live with that.
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A reread of meatpudding's analysis and follow-up to my post seems to indicate he is town.
Also for those saying I just jumped into the thread randomly, that's how I roll, you can see my other games in the TL mafia database and I do this every game regardless of alignment. I am just not a high volume poster. I also happen to live in Australia where kangaroos live and where your night is my day. So you read a post of mp, called him abuses scumbuddy, get called out for it not being valid, read some more posts to see, that you couldn't hold up your point and retract instantly? Why didn't you bother with reading first and posting after? Show nested quote +On August 27 2014 23:21 gobbledydook wrote:
And if you want to lynch me that's fine. When I flip 'Princess Aurora, the Sleeping Beauty' as I claimed, then we know who's been misrepresenting my words and pushing for a mislynch. So you are trying to scare people away from voting to lynch you by saying "Don't vote for me, cause if you do, everybody will know I am a princess, which makes you scum?" Your overall appearance here in this thread looks pretty bad up until now. You hop in, you post some stuff, put a vote down, shortly afterwards take back everything you said, don't answer any question directed at you and on top of it all, you also explain that we shouldn't expect any more out of you, since this you are not a high volume poster and just randomly hop in and out of threads? Where is your effort to solve this game? I can't see it and the way you put it, you make it look like you are also not very interested in putting any effort into it. ##vote gobbledydook
I think you will find your scumhunting approach incorrect. Usually the assholes get lynched and flip town. It's because mafia have nothing to gain by insulting everyone. The mafia's greatest hope is that everyone forgets about them.
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On August 28 2014 06:42 Barakos wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2014 04:57 JennyHell wrote:
Marry
I'm not quite ready to marry someone yet, but I do have a keen eye for Barakos.
How about we do a temporary engagement. Will you be my lovely bride?
As tempting as it sounds to have you as my bastion of light, hope and all that is good in this world of wickedness... I am afraid I can't fully commit to being your bride right now. But let's talk some more and see, where it goes from here, shall we? You say lilwade is playing like last game and therefore have him in your banglist for now, even though he isn't very active. And at the same time your feeling about meatpudding is, that he plays a different game as last time, yet still you give him enough credit to put him on your banglist - at least for a one night stand. So my question is - why do you treat both the same, while only one of them is behaving as he used to do in the last game?
It's really simple actually.
Meat is scummy because I don't recognize this side of him, but his logic and his reads makes sense to me even if I don't agree fully on them. I like his approach to the game.
lilwade is acting the same, and although he's not contributed much, I don't feel ready to lynch him this day due to something I noticed that I don't feel comfortable sharing right now.
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On August 28 2014 06:55 gobbledydook wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2014 01:16 Barakos wrote:On August 27 2014 21:36 gobbledydook wrote:
What's wrong with proposing a scumduo? If you don't agree, that's fine, but scumreading someone for not having the same opinion is not fine.
You overemphasize 'getting the thread going'. The thread is going to get going regardless of any person posting sooner or later on day 1. If I wanted I could also post a ton of open questions to 'get the thread going' but that's not the point. The point of discussion is to provide insight.
Now that abuse has posted his list of reads I think he's town. I think he has put a massive effort into solving this game. The only thing I don't like is he omguses me, but that's fine I can live with that.
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A reread of meatpudding's analysis and follow-up to my post seems to indicate he is town.
Also for those saying I just jumped into the thread randomly, that's how I roll, you can see my other games in the TL mafia database and I do this every game regardless of alignment. I am just not a high volume poster. I also happen to live in Australia where kangaroos live and where your night is my day. So you read a post of mp, called him abuses scumbuddy, get called out for it not being valid, read some more posts to see, that you couldn't hold up your point and retract instantly? Why didn't you bother with reading first and posting after? On August 27 2014 23:21 gobbledydook wrote:
And if you want to lynch me that's fine. When I flip 'Princess Aurora, the Sleeping Beauty' as I claimed, then we know who's been misrepresenting my words and pushing for a mislynch. So you are trying to scare people away from voting to lynch you by saying "Don't vote for me, cause if you do, everybody will know I am a princess, which makes you scum?" Your overall appearance here in this thread looks pretty bad up until now. You hop in, you post some stuff, put a vote down, shortly afterwards take back everything you said, don't answer any question directed at you and on top of it all, you also explain that we shouldn't expect any more out of you, since this you are not a high volume poster and just randomly hop in and out of threads? Where is your effort to solve this game? I can't see it and the way you put it, you make it look like you are also not very interested in putting any effort into it. ##vote gobbledydook I think you will find your scumhunting approach incorrect. Usually the assholes get lynched and flip town. It's because mafia have nothing to gain by insulting everyone. The mafia's greatest hope is that everyone forgets about them.
Care to substantiate your case on me a bit more? Furthermore, why are you voting now?
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Gobble - Care to further explain your vote on Superbia?
If we weren't lynching him, who'd you rather see us lynch?
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On August 27 2014 05:00 lilwade wrote:
With classes starting getting anywhere is a huge pain but,
Here is my perspective from the last 12 hours.
1) Jenny you have started strong again but apart from last game you have come off way stronger this time around, maybe overcompensating to try to appear like you start every game the same, I am not sure. you are probably on my bang list for now, you know how I hate to commit to marry. What are your thoughts on MihZaaa?
2) Superbia despite your post that was longer than my last college paper I feel you are doing your best to seek out scum and test the waters and I think no mafia would have gone to lengths to provide what you did albeit in a poorly formatted manner. For the most part I think your genuine, but I still have my doubts on the quality of your reads.
3) Barakos I think you started of pretty strong but have moved down a little bit with some filler posts. Who do you think we should persue? Did you actually read superbia's post? do you think it could have been scum motivated? What in it makes you think it is an abomination or were you merely calling it that because of how long it was? What are your thoughts on abuse?
4) MihZaaa I agree the time zone difference is a bit of a pain but i will try to post between classes and all through out the night and morning to make it easier for you and any others who arent in the US. What are you thought on jenny and superbia because those are my strongest reads atm. Do you think jenny is overcompensating? I just refreshed and saw your post, I agree for the most part that superbia's long post was filled with nonsense but do you think it is town motivated?
5) abuse I think that every mafia game we have atleast 1 person (you), to start of the game with classic reaction questions and I like it tbh, Myself you can call me Town Hero for I will seek out scum so none of our beautiful princesses have to die. I was hoping to get a character that I could add a lot of flavor with but I was unfamiliar with how to go about it.
As for my thoughts on you I think you are spending a little to much time defending rather than advancing and I do not like that. What can you bring to the table that will get the game on the right track aside from your first post.
Anyone I didnt mention was not worth mentioning and you need to be worried about that because I will be waiting to hear from you.
A cursory reread makes me feel the absence of lilwade. Look at this post. It feels...noncommittal doesn't it. So the problem with being noncommittal is that scum generally want to leave their options open so they can't be held responsible.
He follows up with a disapproval on my manner of entering the thread which is partly based on a misread. He disappears afterwards:
I would lynch lilwade but I think superbia is better.
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On August 28 2014 07:06 gobbledydook wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2014 05:00 lilwade wrote:
With classes starting getting anywhere is a huge pain but,
Here is my perspective from the last 12 hours.
1) Jenny you have started strong again but apart from last game you have come off way stronger this time around, maybe overcompensating to try to appear like you start every game the same, I am not sure. you are probably on my bang list for now, you know how I hate to commit to marry. What are your thoughts on MihZaaa?
2) Superbia despite your post that was longer than my last college paper I feel you are doing your best to seek out scum and test the waters and I think no mafia would have gone to lengths to provide what you did albeit in a poorly formatted manner. For the most part I think your genuine, but I still have my doubts on the quality of your reads.
3) Barakos I think you started of pretty strong but have moved down a little bit with some filler posts. Who do you think we should persue? Did you actually read superbia's post? do you think it could have been scum motivated? What in it makes you think it is an abomination or were you merely calling it that because of how long it was? What are your thoughts on abuse?
4) MihZaaa I agree the time zone difference is a bit of a pain but i will try to post between classes and all through out the night and morning to make it easier for you and any others who arent in the US. What are you thought on jenny and superbia because those are my strongest reads atm. Do you think jenny is overcompensating? I just refreshed and saw your post, I agree for the most part that superbia's long post was filled with nonsense but do you think it is town motivated?
5) abuse I think that every mafia game we have atleast 1 person (you), to start of the game with classic reaction questions and I like it tbh, Myself you can call me Town Hero for I will seek out scum so none of our beautiful princesses have to die. I was hoping to get a character that I could add a lot of flavor with but I was unfamiliar with how to go about it.
As for my thoughts on you I think you are spending a little to much time defending rather than advancing and I do not like that. What can you bring to the table that will get the game on the right track aside from your first post.
Anyone I didnt mention was not worth mentioning and you need to be worried about that because I will be waiting to hear from you. A cursory reread makes me feel the absence of lilwade. Look at this post. It feels...noncommittal doesn't it. So the problem with being noncommittal is that scum generally want to leave their options open so they can't be held responsible. He follows up with a disapproval on my manner of entering the thread which is partly based on a misread. He disappears afterwards: I would lynch lilwade but I think superbia is better.
First off my initial read is that you rushed head first into it rather than getting others opinions, It came from nowhere and I still think it was poorly accused, yes I had trouble with your fail quote post but I admitted that. As for lynching you I do not think you are my prime candidate. So I have my opinion on who is town at the moment but that wont get the game moving forward, from all of the filters ive read my top scum right now is...
MihZaaa
On August 27 2014 22:24 MihZaaa wrote:JennyHell Show nested quote +Following it up with a response to lilwade asking about me and superbia, and this is very minor but he, instead of saying what he said in previous post that we are in his towncircle, he decides to phrase it as a "no lynch zone", which felt a bit off. I had a no lynch zone but not a full town list yet. I was expecting the others to talk more so I can get a clearer mafia read instead of a "least town" read I had on abuse. Show nested quote +He then had his lengthy post where he seemed extremely defensive, but he brought up some good parts as well that I can agree on. But the general feel I got from his lengthy post was that all the commented on was things that was about him, concerned him or was good for his play, which to me felt scummy. I talked about things concerning me because that's where I have the most valuable input. Not only that but I wasn't giving my thoughts in regards to Superbia's reads on others that much because I was interested in their unadulterated answer/reaction more.
Here you can see him flip flop around he claims his least town was "abuse" after the gobbledydook posts and yet he still comes in with the one liner post voting for gobbledydook. A person that does not have their own opinion is more detrimental to town than anything else. His filter kinda jumps around from person to person and doesnt really give scum insight.
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On August 28 2014 07:00 JennyHell wrote:
It's really simple actually.
Meat is scummy because I don't recognize this side of him, but his logic and his reads makes sense to me even if I don't agree fully on them. I like his approach to the game.
lilwade is acting the same, and although he's not contributed much, I don't feel ready to lynch him this day due to something I noticed that I don't feel comfortable sharing right now.
I can relate to your point on meatpudding, since i got the same feeling about his logic and even though he didn't post much, his answer to the question i had for him helped me see, where I missunderstood abuse.
I got mixed feelings about lilwade. His entrancepost seemed sloppy to me, since he seemed to have missed some posts but he mentioned he was under some kind of stress because school. Looking forward to see what it is, that caught your eye - maybe it will help me read him a little better.
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It's less than 3 hours left. I'd like for people to get more active!
We need more conversation amongst eachother. Short bursts and more people active.
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