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On August 09 2014 05:30 slOosh wrote: Updated the playerlist, no conditional signups please. On August 10 2014 14:11 VisceraEyes wrote: /in? On August 10 2014 19:41 Oatsmaster wrote: /in?  | ||
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1) Mages Started the game by downplaying himself, which might be new/nervous town or scummy avoiding of attention. Continued to express his thoughts after that, which makes me lean town, especially since he wasn't just following the flow of the thread but rather tried to bring his own thoughts to the discussion. Especially as a new scum player it would be somewhat hard/risky to post like that. 2) MysteryMeat1 Also opened the game by downplaying himself ("I'm trash at forum mafia" etc.). This time added with fluff about Avatar and such. A couple of players see that as a scummy opening and vote for him, and I think it was probably the best target for a pressure vote this early on. After the votes on him, he comes back with a big case on VE (one of the voters) that isn't really saying much. He also says something like "the lynch is between me and VE now". I think he overreacts to the votes and combined with his self-trashing opening, it isn't a bad vote for now. ##Vote MysteryMeat1 3) Koshi I think he's seemed good so far, but then again, I'm not much of an expert on him 4) VisceraEyes Not that much to say about him yet, but I agree with this post: On August 11 2014 11:53 VisceraEyes wrote: His first post was all "Man I'm so bad and I can already tell you that you won't want to listen to anything I say" Obviously I'm paraphrasing. But that's the feels I got reading his post. It made my ass twitch. | ||
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On August 11 2014 21:34 raynpelikoneet wrote: What's the purpose of this all? What's the purpose of this question :/ | ||
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On August 11 2014 21:48 Koshi wrote: Ofc I am still here. I watched the thread view count go up from 2065 to 2135 before anybody replied. I am close to lynching rayn. Close to lynching rayn? Based on his somewhat useless commentary so far? | ||
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On August 11 2014 21:59 raynpelikoneet wrote: ##vote: onevone Why? | ||
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On August 11 2014 22:06 raynpelikoneet wrote: because you are most likely to be mafia. Again: why? | ||
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On August 11 2014 22:09 raynpelikoneet wrote: Your post was 70% fluff while you could only post a case on your scumread and not fill the post with other useless stuff. Also you refuse to answer me which means you probably don't have answers. Which makes your posts towards Koshi useless. townies do not post useless stuff. It's just wrong to describe that post as 70% fluff, since it clearly describes one town lean, one slight scumread and two nullreads + reasons for those reads. In any case it's definitely more meaningful than most of your posts so far.. What is there to say? I just arrived at the thread and saw Koshi's latest post, then asked if he was still around. It's not content, but it's not alignment indicative either. The way you asked about it was infinitely more useless than my original questions. | ||
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On August 11 2014 22:18 kushm4sta wrote: I disagree about rayn's question being more useless. What did you want to say to koshi? It was the latest post in the thread and I wondered if he was still around, since it looked like nobody else was (although several players came to post after that). rayn's question was just like "Why would you ever ask if another player is still around??". I don't get the point. It's just a meaningless question that doesn't discern anything about my alignment. | ||
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On August 11 2014 22:20 Koshi wrote: Double posting is against the rules. Post more stuff. As you can see this game is slow as fuck. Post more stuff. Tell us about your life. No hiding behind people if there is nothing to talk about in the thread. I cannot let you hide behind me if I can't shoot on anybody else. No. Because I was all alone in this thread and rayn didn't talk to me. And it was likely him and Kush and probably some evul cohost roaming the thread. Yes. I like this. There was no reason for onevone to not ask his question when he had one for me. Well, I don't think it's a good idea to lynch rayn D1 anyway. What does your last sentence mean? | ||
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On August 11 2014 22:28 kushm4sta wrote: onevone let's roleplay. im koshi, and you're onevone onevone - hey koshi u around still? koshi - yo onevone wats up? now what do you say? On August 11 2014 22:02 onevone wrote: Close to lynching rayn? Based on his somewhat useless commentary so far? | ||
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On August 11 2014 22:33 kushm4sta wrote: onevone that's in reply to what he said. In our roleplay, I'm koshi and I just said "hey wats up?" That's a hypothetical question so it's hard to say what exactly I would have said. If Koshi had been the only one to post and only said something like "yeah", I would have probably asked for his recent opinions. But the thread exploded instead so it's not very meaningful to think about hypothetical situations. | ||
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On August 11 2014 22:34 Koshi wrote: It means that you made 2 completely useless posts. These 2 posts don't serve any purpose. Why would a townie make these 2 posts? I don't know. Why would a scummer make these posts. Because scummers scum. The second post was made by you because you realized that there were a couple hours passed since I made the last post. But why did you not simply ask me what you wanted to ask me instead of asking "are you still here". Did it matter that I had to react to your post instantly? Also, you clearly are a smurf. So you know that I am always around. I didn't have anything to ask *you specifically*. I just thought that you were the only one around since you kept complaining that nobody else was around, so I asked if you still were around. How does this make me scummy anyhow? I just don't get these reactions. If you think that 2 "fluffy" posts make me scummy then I don't know what to say. | ||
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On August 11 2014 22:40 Koshi wrote: onevone, Can you type more words about the 2 bolded segments. Proof it. On August 11 2014 07:56 MysteryMeat1 wrote: Ya i really liked the original Avatar, but thought the first season of korra was pretty meh. I swear that asami looks like wonder woman though... "Proof" (Btw nothing particularly scummy about the fact that he posted about Avatar, it was just a note that he didn't only trash himself in his first posts.)The VE case didn't really say much because it didn't anyhow convince me that VE is scum. The first point about VE's opening post is just... nothing. The second point doesn't really do anything to make VE scum either. The third point could be possibly scummy(?), but I can't know because it's a subjective meta reason that is uncertain at best... Nothing worth calling VE as a scumread at least... | ||
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On August 11 2014 22:48 raynpelikoneet wrote: So let's go through your post: 1) read on Mages. You gave him a townread without actually saying you think he is town and instead worded it another way around which kinda makes me think you don't want to call him town for some reason. 2) read on MM1. weak read and there is nothing scummy MM1 has said so far. In fact i don't even believe you think MM1 is mafia because you end the sentence with "He is the best vote so far". 3) null read on Koshi - why? 4) null read on VE - why? So you did not really have any opinions on anything except for the read on MM1 which i strongly disagree with. There has been a lot of talk, for example VE is voting for your scumread and you read him null, which doesn't make any sense because he said mostly the same stuff you said about MM1. You don't talk about kush at all - while kush is one of high volume posters so far. I find it REALLY difficult to think that as town - you would have "more" to say on VE & Koshi than you would on kush. 1) Well, nobody is 100% town especially this early. He's just more likely town. That's all. 2) It's a weak read, but it's weird to say that he's done nothing scum-motivated. What's the town motivation for trashing your own play at the start and panicking at getting votes? It just seems *more* like a scum trying to avoid attention and then reacting too strongly to getting that attention. 3) Because it's hard to read him well and he's done nothing to make me particularly believe he's town or scum yet. 4) Because he has posted little and hasn't done anything particularly alignment indicative expect maybe making a post about MM1 that resonated with me. kush: I think he's also a bit hard to read and I didn't write down anything towny/scummy about him yet. Nothing really meaningful anyway. | ||
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On August 11 2014 23:07 raynpelikoneet wrote: Then what is that part doing in your post? You made a post with 500 words when you could have said "i think MM1 is scum because he downplays himself - that's scummy." srsly. And you tell me you are not posting fluff? When posting about my early observations, not absolutely every word needs to be focused on points that make someone scum. It's definitely also worthwhile to consider towny points and it's not strictly bad to look at null points (although I guess that sentence was quite useless in the end). | ||
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On August 11 2014 23:05 kushm4sta wrote: k we still roleplaying and i'm still koshi "baby take off your pants" :O | ||
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On August 11 2014 23:24 Koshi wrote: Why is it scummy that MM1 talked with Koshi & Damdred about Avatar when we were talking about Avatar. Why is it scummy that when Mages posted about being afraid to post because he is new that MM1 said that Mages didn't need to be afraid to post because there were others just like Mages who are pretty new to forum mafia. Why is comforting people scummy? I am calling this now: Mysterymeat1 is TOWN I put money on it. Going against this is going against me. Please read again. I have never said that it's scummy to post about Avatar. It's not really definitely scummy to trash yourself. It's just that often scum are more keen to appear useless / meaningless as a player so that they won't be accused of being useless in the discussion. | ||
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On August 11 2014 23:25 Damdred wrote: Why is it wrong for him to color that line red when you put that in your scum post about him? Because I've already explained several times now that it wasn't something that made him scum, just something to describe his earliest posts with. Why would posting about Avatar make you scum? | ||
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On August 11 2014 23:30 Damdred wrote: But MM admitted in his post that it would probably look like OMGUS. Which it probably is I think he took the second post out of context. But it honestly feels towny from him and how he normally plays hes at least posting his thoughts and interacting. You just feel like your jumping on him and trying to push because he might of picked up momentum for a good mislynch at this stage. Honestly it's way too early to say that MM1 is today's lynch. The first wagon to get going is very rarely an actual lynch in my experience. But this is definitely a better topic to talk about than Avatar and it's likely that the clues to figure out the scumteam are already partly within reach from these first pages (combined with later evidence). | ||
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On August 11 2014 23:39 Damdred wrote: It doesn't make you scum at all especially what was going on in the thread at that point. Your case felt like you popped this in there as why other people were reading him scum and part of the reason that you were. It just felt disingenuous and a bit like you were warping the facts. And now it feels a lot like you are backtracking and trying to cover yourself. You "feel" a lot of hypothetical situations :/ | ||
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On August 11 2014 23:37 Koshi wrote: You don't agree that the reason to why Mysterymeat " trashed himself" was to make Mages feel more comfortable? Because that looks pretty pro-town to me. Dude. I just fucking coloured 50% of the things MysteryMeat said in green. TELL ME WHY THOSE THINGS ARE SCUMMY. You said this: I just gave you 4 reasons to townread MysteryMeat of that case. Tell me why those 4 reasons are bad. Because your vote is currently on MysteryMeat because this: So if I know analyze these 2 points you made about MysterMeat1 1) Downplayed + talked about Avatar ---> Like I said. This is not scummy. He talked with some people about Avatar. He comforted Mages. 2) He makes a case on VE that doesn't say much. ---> Probably the best case in the game so far. At least way better than all the cases on MysterMeat. I am still waiting on somebody telling me the 4 green bolded things in his case are more likely to come from scum than town. Because I see it coming more likely from town. Why is your vote still on MysteryMeat? ##unvote ##vote: onevone Why should my vote not be on MysteryMeat1? Should I rather not vote at all? I'll vote for someone else when I find someone more scummy. No point in not voting at all just because the read is weak. I just said that the reasons in MM1's case are not scummy in themselves. Yet you continue to ask me why they are scummy. I only said that the timing + weak (not scummy) reasoning of the case didn't look good, making it look more like a panic reaction. It's plausible that the case itself is a genuine town thought process. | ||
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On August 11 2014 23:47 Damdred wrote: yes I always get in trouble for using the same sensory words sometimes when I am writing. However you still failed to speak to the nature of the post, if you said something appears to make someone scummy and then come off of it and misrepresent whats going on and come off of it its backtracking. And you are backtracking off of what you said of MM How am I backtracking? I've never said anything else than MM1 being slightly scummy and that he talked about Avatar early on (not a scummy thing to do, just a description of what he did in comparison to Mages). | ||
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On August 11 2014 23:43 Sn0_Man wrote: I don't think "Figuring out the Scumteam" is our day 1 plan. Specifically, I think that scum would be more likely to think about the game in that manner over town who *should* be more concerned with finding exactly 1 scum day one, or else achieving a good, information-heavy lynch. I meant it as in generating clues to help determine the scumteam later on rather than figuring out the whole scumteam now. | ||
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On August 12 2014 00:06 Koshi wrote: tbh I am already extremely bored with onevone. But he is playing so I let him be for the time. How are we on Onegu? Is this completely null?  | ||
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On August 11 2014 23:57 raynpelikoneet wrote: I can't believe onevone is a smurf and does not have a read on kush. I've seen him play scummy as town and townish as scum. I don't think he's that easy to read really. With that said I wouldn't want to lynch him atm, he's been pretty active and talked about stuff. | ||
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On August 12 2014 00:19 Koshi wrote: Don't be sad. The good news is I will be pushing for your lynch extremely hard at the end of the day. We will be able to play together then! Glad to hear that you still remember me | ||
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On August 12 2014 00:02 Damdred wrote: Ok I think I might of played to many IML games and i'm putting to much on where votes are right now. However if you don't think its scummy why even put it in your post that lead up to a vote? Dunno, I had just finished writing about Mages and moved on to MM1. Both had downplayed themselves, but MM1 also talked about Avatar, so I guess I just put it in there. | ||
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On August 12 2014 00:23 raynpelikoneet wrote: I am putting Mages to townpile aswell. By the way, it'd be more helpful if you also explained your reads while sharing them rather than just saying "X is town, Y is scum". | ||
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On August 12 2014 00:33 Koshi wrote: I agree with rayn. It would be helpful if you could tell us why Mages his play is most likely coming from town. Why should rayn tell you the answers to the game? rayn is testing others if they pay attention. Why are you not paying attention? Spoilered because I am bored talking about this: + Show Spoiler + On August 12 2014 00:28 onevone wrote: Dunno, I had just finished writing about Mages and moved on to MM1. Both had downplayed themselves, but MM1 also talked about Avatar, so I guess I just put it in there. Yeah you are scum. There is no reason for you to bring up again that somebody talked about Avatar in the 5 first posts of the game when everybody at that time was talking about Avatar. It is completely null that when there are people talking about watching Avatar, there is another guy who chimes in and says "I also watch avatar". There is no fucking way that you can add him talking about Avatar to something else and come to the conclusion he is scum or scummy. It's you who isn't paying attention, since I explained my town lean on Mages in one of my first posts + I've repeatedly said that the sentence about Avatar wasn't a reason for him being scum. | ||
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You could try taking an active role instead of making semi-useful comments here and there :/ | ||
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On August 12 2014 00:41 Sn0_Man wrote: I see why you and rayn are asserting that. I'm not sure I agree that his posts are so "town mindset genuine" etc that he deserves a hard townread. Not really no Well then, what do you think of MM1, me and VE? | ||
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On August 12 2014 00:43 Koshi wrote: Stop lieing. Here are your reads: The bolded is for both people the same. They downplay their game. BUT, the green stuff makes Mages a townread for you. While the red stuff made MM1 a scumread for you. Clearly Avatar talk made MM1 more scummy to you. If you say that it never did, I am just calling scumhunting for this day and make sure you are lynched. Maybe you were an overzealous townie, maybe, but don't tell me you weren't scumreading MM1 partly because he talked about Avatar. Because you did. Ugh... Just stop already. Even rayn conceded this stupid point right away despite pushing me with anything he could otherwise. You're simply inserting your own fantasies and theories into my post. Maybe my post wasn't 100% clear, but there's no way you can say from that that my reason for scumreading him was that he posted about Avatar. It's simply stupid. I only added that sentence as a short addition to the fact that they both downplayed themselves, while MM1 also talked about Avatar, but I didn't say that made him scum.... Only that he downplayed himself and talked a bit about Avatar. What's so hard to understand? | ||
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On August 12 2014 00:49 Sn0_Man wrote: I didn't like MM1's thread entry but I've been somehwat persuaded otherwise. Ur annoying. And I don't know who you are. And ur wrong about a lot. But Koshi and rayn are blowing some things wayyyyy out of proportion and it makes it hard to properly think about the case vs you since there are definitely good parts in it that are being obscured by silly arguments. VE entered the thread in a fun manner that I liked but that is also admittedly not particularly alignment indicative. I disliked his MM1 vote. You're townreading MM1 now or only don't dislike his entry anymore? What exactly am I wrong about? | ||
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On August 12 2014 01:01 Sn0_Man wrote: I dislike his entry less, we'll put it that way. It's still open to further reading pending more of him actually posting. things ur wrong about: I'm too lazy to get more. He's plenty focused this game and playing normally. You have to take into account that I posted that before rayn started posting on me. Before that he was just posting non-content one-liners like these: On August 11 2014 16:52 raynpelikoneet wrote: I make my cases in 10 posts. What does that make me? On August 11 2014 21:34 raynpelikoneet wrote: What's the purpose of this all? It's a bit unfair to say that I'm "wrong about a lot" without even showing me anything I've been wrong about :/ | ||
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On August 12 2014 01:05 Mages wrote: I think Koshi is good at least because of his ideas on the duality of downplaying between me and MM not being completely sound, how we both downplayed reasonably the same yet one of us was chosen as evil simply because of fluff. I had asked Kush at the beginning to tell me about himself so i could get to know him a wee bit better, the way he responded didn't look so nice. Note : Bolds are mine to draw attention to the crux of my discussion. So, Koshi's fine to me, Kush is a little bit more suspicious because of hostility, and Onevone im gonna need a little bit more time on. It's not because of fluff, it's because you continued to post your own ideas in the thread while MM1 just trashed himself and disappeared. If you had only posted that downplaying opening post, I would have put you on about the same level of suspiciousness as MM1 (that is: could be scum?). | ||
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On August 12 2014 01:17 raynpelikoneet wrote: Can you tell me what i have taken "way out of proportion"? I thought my case was pretty clear. He posts stuff that doesn't need to be posted - in fact there should be no reason to post that stuff. He doesn't really think anyone is town or mafia but he is still kinda saying so. Also if you think there are good points against onevone why are you holding your vote? Can you tell what those good point in your mind are? Or do you think one/both of me or Koshi are mafia pushing a townie lynch? What about your own useless one-liners though Not that it makes you scum.It's pretty stupid to say that someone is 100% town or scum early D1. | ||
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On August 12 2014 01:14 Sn0_Man wrote: better get that bandwagon started on such strong basis as "could be scum?" It's called pressure and also "beggars can't be choosers" Would you rather still be talking about Avatar.. I prefer to talk about potential scum. | ||
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On August 12 2014 01:23 raynpelikoneet wrote: Both of those are perfectly valid questions. First one says "explain your read/vote on VE?", the second one says "why do you post stuff that does not push the thread forwards in any case?". Just because you can't see why i post the stuff i do doesn't make it meaningless. It makes you bad or mafia. As you are a smurf and i think you know how this game works AND i think you know how i play i think it makes you mafia. I'm really starting to get tired of simply asking if someone is online being scummy. It's just null. If I labelled everyone who ever made posts like that as scum, then generally over 50% players in a Mafia game would be scum. Okay, actually Koshi answered your question there, although it didn't lead to anything changing in the discussion. Still I don't think it was wrong to say that you make more vague one-liner question like that as scum, at least in my experience. | ||
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On August 12 2014 01:30 Koshi wrote: Nothing ever indicated that the avatar talk was going to go further than the 6 or so posts made about it. Again you misrepresent things to push an agenda / idea. I didn't mean it like this: "We'd be still talking about Avatar if we weren't talking about MM1." But like this: "It's never bad to put on pressure and force people to react to wagons." | ||
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On August 12 2014 01:35 raynpelikoneet wrote: 1) Yeah i know you don't. You also don't waste time telling why people could be town without actually saying so - which is my point. 2) The issue is townies vote for people who they think are mafia. If you don't think someone is mafia you don't vote for them. Right? Unless you want to pressure them, but clearly that's not the case here. If someone says (in fact onevone said) "i think he is not a bad vote so far" do you think that guy thinks the other guy is mafia? For real? Easy vote - safe vote - looks like contributing (all of this post) - easy to back off later on. 3/4) the problem is this does not achieve anything. It's just filler. Null-redas. What's the purpose of saying "i think this and this guy are null"??? Especially in a post where you VOTE for someone. really, could you go read the post again and tell me what it actually says? What's inconclusive about saying Mages is a town lean? I think it's pretty conclusive, for an early read. Again, it's really hard to have a strong scumread early D1. You have stated one and it's completely wrong. I've stated a weak read and it could be wrong, but at least it's not grossly wrong like yours since I never stated that it was strong to begin with. | ||
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On August 12 2014 01:41 Koshi wrote: The pro town move was to attack the 3 votes on mm1 and not sheep the bad wagon on him. Even if you somewhere believed he was scum. That would have been the hero town play. Why? If MM1 is indeed scum, it's a delicious opportunity to gather scum reactions. If he's town, it's also an opportunity to gather suspicious moves. It's definitely better than everyone holding their vote until the end. Attacking the wagon would achieve just that. Plus I don't even have a weak scumread on anyone else. | ||
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On August 12 2014 01:46 Koshi wrote: It is hard to have a strong scumread d1? I always got strong scumreads d1. Thia guys is hilarious. It's easy to have strong reads, it's harder to have strong reads with them being equally strongly correct. | ||
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On August 12 2014 01:58 Koshi wrote: Because by attacking the voters you bring life in the thread. People need to post opinions. The suspicion on mm1 and his "buddy" scummers was already casted by the initial 3. By attacking the 3 you also put suspicion on those 3 so that nobody can hide. No need to talk about it anymore though. Time for hero play is over. Nobody took it. Maybe I did as first by attacking you. What would have happened if I also voted for mm1 to gather reactions from him and his scumbuddies? We for sure wouldnt have seen your reasoning for voting mm1 is empty. Could you please rewrite why you are still voting mm1 or why you were voting mm1? Why was his case on VE not good? I am still interested in that. It is the only reason why you are voting him not? And the avatar+downplaying stuff. Stop with the Avatar stuff already. It's an abyss of logical reasoning. My vote on MM1 was weak, not "empty". It's simply for the facts that he downplayed his own abilities for (more likely) scummy motives and reacted very strongly to the votes on him, immediately putting together a case full of meta and conjecture - the feeling I have is that scum would be more likely to react strongly to pressure. It's all closer to null than scummy, which is why I never said that it was a strong read. But I don't currently really see anything better either, which is why my vote is still on him. It's not like it has to remain there until the lynch. | ||
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On August 12 2014 02:18 Sn0_Man wrote: @1v1: Alright back to hypothetical land. MM1 gets modkilled on the spot, no flip till night post. (basically this is just "you can't vote for him"). who would you like to lynch? Also reasons. I was actually just going through the player list. It seems like a lot of players haven't really posted anything worth thinking about yet. I don't think anyone else jumps out in a way that makes me think "he could be scum". There are a lot of bland questions and jokey posts that don't say much at all. Those could be coming either from town or scum, it's really hard to tell. Earlier I disliked your vague existence in the thread, but you've taken a bit more active role recently, so I don't feel like I'd want to lynch you now. Who would *you* want to lynch atm? Me? | ||
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On August 11 2014 13:25 TheKingOfTheCats wrote: Do you actually have an opinion on the case on MM? On August 11 2014 15:43 TheKingOfTheCats wrote: Kush do you have any thoughts on Haru? | ||
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On August 11 2014 11:53 VisceraEyes wrote: His first post was all "Man I'm so bad and I can already tell you that you won't want to listen to anything I say" Obviously I'm paraphrasing. But that's the feels I got reading his post. It made my ass twitch. Otherwise pretty much just null. | ||
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On August 12 2014 03:08 Sn0_Man wrote: Alright people PLEASE QUOTE whatever ur referring to cuz this got confusing hella fast. @1v1 I mean one one hand those posts are more efforty and towny, but on the other hand they are more "Look how much I care" without actually then following up and doing things with it. I still dislike snackbats much more. I think it's infinitely more scummy to post "look how much I care" without actually caring than not caring and not hiding it, although neither is good of course. | ||
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On August 12 2014 03:09 VisceraEyes wrote: Why aren't more people voting for MysteryMeat? The case is a slam dunk man, they don't come that easy very often. Did you find some divine wisdom about him being scum besides his self-downplaying and OMGUS reaction? I wouldn't say it's exactly clear yet. | ||
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On August 12 2014 03:12 Koshi wrote: ↓Is there much difference in the reply?↑ There's quite a bit of difference there... VE is just neutrally giving advice, MM1 is more like trying to downplay himself + get Mages on his side. | ||
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On August 12 2014 03:15 VisceraEyes wrote: It's the WAY he did it - like he's eager to talk (read: talking about his summer vacation and his personality etc) but not about the game (my cases need work, I need improvement etc). He wants to be seen active in the thread but doesn't want anyone to listen to anything he says. Agreed.. | ||
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A Fire Upon the Deep Mini Mafia Town Vanilla Lynched Day 1 Wat >.> | ||
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On August 12 2014 03:28 Sn0_Man wrote: Alright can I pretend to be grush or watever starsenses guy's name is? Scumteam totally 1v1, snackbats and VE. For post-game cred. More like post-game shame. How is batsnacks more scummy than TheKingOfTheCats in any way? At worst they should be at the same level. | ||
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On August 12 2014 03:40 Damdred wrote: He has never rolled scum here, and he does this all the time he goes away or lurks or whatever. Hes just usually absent and he will post something like that and just walk away. So is he still scum to you or not? Pretty close to null considering that he's been a lynchbait D1 as town so far. Although I just noticed that he seems more eager to talk about his reads in the other games, so maybe he could be scum here after all? I mean, he hasn't almost at all talked his reads so far, besides one, whereas in the other games he constantly gives out reads. | ||
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On August 12 2014 03:48 Koshi wrote: Stop saying stuff that are lies or exaggerations to push your agenda. Several hours is in this case fucking 7 posts. There are fucking SEVEN POSTS between his first post and his second post. THERE ARE SEVEN POSTS OF NEW CONTENT BETWEEN KoCs HIS FIRST POST AND SECOND POST. You make it sounds like there were 25 pages of content being posted and in the meantime KoCs was actively lurking. 7 fucking posts. Get out of your confirmation bias please :/ The point still remains that he was around for several hours and only made two not-that-meaningful questions during the time, then disappeared without any follow-up. If he returns strongly, then it's good, but right now I think his play has been the least contributive while appearing the most contributive on the surface in comparison. | ||
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On August 12 2014 03:52 Koshi wrote: ##unvote ##vote: VisceraEyes 1v1 is simply terrible town. VE just trew away a townread to follow some lies. I thought personal attacks were forbidden. Besides, you just threw away your hard scumread for apparently no reason. Why can't VE find my post reasonable? | ||
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On August 12 2014 03:47 Sn0_Man wrote: Actually i'd really like to see the proverbial list post from MM1 right now as that seems to be a thing of his. Yeah MM1, go ahead and write your standard listpost finally | ||
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On August 12 2014 04:28 Koshi wrote: ##unvote ##vote: onevone I agree Snow. I should keep my vote on the liar. I just can't believe a mafia player would keep inventing this reasons to call people scum and when called on it he just gives some bs explanation or ignores me. I am counting 4 times he posts something that is not true. 1) downplay + avatar (doesn't matter he says avatar means nothing when called on it, he wrote it there the first time) 2) MM1 case on VE comes from scum. (I point out it looks like coming from a town, ignores the points I bolded) 3) Voted for MM1 because the alternative is that we would still be talking about Avatar (Not true, the thread went serious really fast) 4) KoC lurked for several hours and contributed nothing. (This happened on page 6, the game started on page 5 if we don't count the avatar stuff.) (The thing KoC did was actually attack the people hopping blind on the MM1 wagon without reasoning, this is very pro town) 1) That's just your own conjecture that nobody else agrees with. Please get over it. 2) What was your point again? That he said some townish things in the case? I never said that the case was scummy in itself, only weak. The fact that he only posted it in reaction to the votes was a bit scummy. And that's still his only read so far, I think. 3) Again your own conjecture. I never said that I voted him to prevent us talking about Avatar. Just that the wagon on him is better than us talking about something irrelevant, and I don't know how you could disagree with that. 4) No idea how you could see KoC's play as townish. I think he's the scummiest of the lurkers. Just the way how he clearly was around (at least to some extent) for several hours and only came up with those two posts that essentially changed nothing in the flow of the thread. | ||
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On August 12 2014 05:46 raynpelikoneet wrote: I have contributed the most. You have one of the shorter filters in the game that has several posts like this + one-liner reads with no basis + an exaggerated and ill-founded tunnel on me. | ||
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On August 12 2014 05:45 Sn0_Man wrote: If you have complaints about my town play lets hear them. I have issues with 4 people at 2 "in game" posts. I have issues with Koshi flipflopping between people without reasons etc. I have issues with MysteryMeat's only defense being "I'm lynchbait guys" I have issues with VE's general poor play and forced-feeling interactions with Koshi. I have issues with rayn's low contributions beyond extreme tunnel on 1v1 I can't fix those things. But I can sure whine about them. There's no mention of me even though I'm your top scumread? | ||
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On August 12 2014 05:51 kushm4sta wrote:
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On August 12 2014 05:59 raynpelikoneet wrote: not true. are youcalling me mafia? try me. You have 2 pages. A lot of people have 3+. You have only one-liner reads with no basis if you don't count me. Your tunnel on me is ill-founded. Everything is true. What is untrue? Not calling you scum atm, pretty much just null. Why don't you try to fix those problems if you are indeed town? | ||
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On August 12 2014 06:04 raynpelikoneet wrote: Except you voted one dude for it. good night everyone. I guess you could say that MM1's first posts are useless, but they're not *obviously* useless like those from batsnacks or Haru. I mean... It's different to make posts that appear okayish, but are bad, than to make posts that are just obviously bad. | ||
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On August 12 2014 06:07 raynpelikoneet wrote: 'yeah and you have 5 pages. And zero reads. Except your read on MM1 which you just contradicted. now srsly gn. You didn't refute any of my points even though you called them untrue a bit earlier. It's a bit hard to take you seriously. And by the way, I have several reads, and you only have your tunnel on me (as an actual read that you have pursued otherwise than simply saying "X is Y".) | ||
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On August 12 2014 06:12 Sn0_Man wrote: listpost time then. Or even VE's "I'm willing to lynch into these ppl" post. watever. You could make a listpost of your own by looking at my filter, but here goes. Leaning towards town Mages kush Koshi Not sure atm batsnacks Damdred Haru Onegu rayn Sn0 VE Slight scumread MM1 KoC They're really quite weak though. | ||
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Koshi: I think there's a decent chance that MM1 is town. Someone mentioned this before, but this post feels a bit weird to post as scum: On August 11 2014 17:34 MysteryMeat1 wrote: Im going to sleep guys. Just so you know. Dont want to be seen as suspicious when the thread starts getting serious ^^ And it's true that MM1 wasn't downplaying himself on his own initiative, plus his lynchbait status might be a passable excuse for saying that to begin with. So I think MM1 might not really be a good lynch for now. Your case on VE seems to be mostly based on your disagreement about MM1. I don't get why VE is so sure about him, but I don't get why you're so sure either. And it's kind of understandable to get a bit angry at you. I did too. So I'm not really too convinced.. | ||
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On August 12 2014 07:30 Mages wrote: I probably look suspicious because i dont like day one lynches, never have, they typically only work to the team evil advantage. The reason my later posts look like bullshit is because they are based on bullshit, I am obligated to lynch vote someone so I had to. But should I be watched? Yes. Should you? Of course. Someone's evil, and I don't mind the accusation, just explaining to those who don't know me why the breakdown occurred. I actually laughed out loud IRL :D But I guess you mean that the material you're working with is bullshit, as in not very indicative of anything? I agree to some extent. Still there should be better reasons to suspect people than kush's "who are you".... | ||
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On August 12 2014 09:50 TheKingOfTheCats wrote: Currently on page 10 and posting as i read. I don't know if these questions have already been answered. Also expect double/triple/octuple/whatever posts, i don't care if it's against the rules, it's necessary. Why don't you think it's a good idea to lynch Rayn D1? You're implying that he may be a good lynch at a later date so what has he done to make you think he's scummy? And why is it a better idea to lynch MM over Rayn today? rayn is a great asset as town so it's pretty risky to lynch him immediately even if he seems a bit suspicious. As scum I'm always delighted when a veteran player gets somehow lynched on D1, so it's kind of my policy to prevent that as town unless there are heavy reasons to lynch. | ||
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On August 12 2014 09:58 TheKingOfTheCats wrote: So you're saying that one of the points you have against MM is that he made a non alignment indicative post at a bad time? How does that combined with him saying his play wasn't the best make him scummy? What I disliked was that he made the case only in reaction to getting votes and aimed at one of the wagoners. It just felt a bit like an unnatural panic reaction, I guess. But it's not a big point against him anyway and currently I don't feel very comfortable lynching him. | ||
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On August 12 2014 18:40 Onegu wrote: Like this post here he admits is vote is weak but not moveing it. I just dont understand him here. MM1 wasnt his only scum read at the time iirc, and when the holes in his case were shone and he admits the read is weak, why keep going at it at that point, I dont understand it. It was my only (weak) scumread at that point, by the way. I don't really see why I should unvote just because I'm not that confident in him flipping scum, if there's no better choice available. Later on I did change my mind a bit and came to the conclusion that he isn't a very good lynch for today (mainly because of his lynchbait status and some townie factors in his filter). | ||
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On August 12 2014 19:09 raynpelikoneet wrote: KOC it's been now 36h. Time to start providing conclusioms instead of asking endless questions. I agree, but at the same time... What happened to your scumread on me? | ||
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On August 12 2014 17:37 TheKingOfTheCats wrote: In the one other game i've played with Haru he was scum and he played quite a bit, he also didn't joke around at all. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/450895-newbie-mini-mafia-lvi?user=HaruRH&page=2 Granted you can't get a good meta from someone after playing 1 game with them but from what i've observed the reason you're voting for Haru completely backwards. Wow, looks like Haru was pretty active as scum there. And serious too. Not sure where rayn gets his meta heuristic? | ||
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On August 12 2014 19:42 Koshi wrote: No. I don't have to. I am sure he is not the best lynch. He is very likely town anyway. Hmm but proving KoC is town might makes it easier for people to find scum. Oh well. batsnacks is not scummy to you? Not really. There are some things that really make me lean town, like his super careless opening posts and openly asking who he should sheep. All of that serves no purpose as scum, in fact it's harmful to his survival, but I could certainly see town posting like that. I also pretty much agree that KoC posting a hundred questions isn't really helpful while appearing to be contributive (especially since some of the questions were repeated questions from earlier). He hasn't really done anything besides that though. | ||
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On August 12 2014 19:47 raynpelikoneet wrote: You being involved in the game points towards you being town. Maybe your first post was just dumb and i was wrong. I dislike haru and koc the most. While i didn't realize the game i read started on page 2 on his filter all hehas posted this game is jokes and complained. Koc hasn' provided any reasoning to anything. No conclusions. I guess i have to reread haru from another pov. More about that when i am off work and can actually do that. Batsnacks is anothee dude i don't remember anything from and then there is damdred-mages stuff i want them to talk more about. VE is useless but not lynching him. Even if he is scum he is not the only scum and i can't read ve on d1. Basically evertone else looks more or less town. What do you think about that game that was linked of Haru as scum where he was very active and serious? Since you said something like his scum meta is to joke around. | ||
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On August 12 2014 20:01 Koshi wrote: The opening post isn't townie at all. Doing completely nothing and asking to sheep somebody works as scum. I have done it in Normal Mini Mafia LVI. Him going after KoC is completely wrong. This screams of scum jumping on something delicious. 1 page filter. Well, it could be that I'm overthinking stuff, but as I said, I don't think I've ever seen scum open in a way that brings them no benefits and only gathers negative attention. Perhaps batsnacks is just an extremely lazy scum and doesn't care about his appearance... but I prefer to believe that it's more of a townie attitude, I guess. Could you make your towncase on KoC? Since it also affects how to read batsnacks a bit. (If KoC turns out to be town, it makes batsnacks look a bit worse) | ||
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On August 12 2014 20:45 Damdred wrote: Actually curious how does bat being wrong on KoC make it worse? Townies are allowed to be wrong completely and it happens often and usually isn't alignment oriented (being wrong or not) It just means that batsnacks looks better if KoC flips scum than the other way around (I doubt they would be scum together atm). | ||
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On August 12 2014 20:53 Koshi wrote: I somewhere want him to post a bit more before I really townread him. Just read this town game and compare it to this scum game. I think it gives him space till D2. Hm yeah... He does ask a lot of questions there as town too, and doesn't come to many conclusions early on. Perhaps it's just the way he plays. As scum he seems to be a lot less active. | ||
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On August 12 2014 20:59 kushm4sta wrote: k but this line of thinking is fairly obvious. scum know that. So "who to sheep" is something scum might say just because people will read it tooscummytobescum, and less overtly scummy, serious koc like questions become the new tooscummytobescum. That's some serious WIFOM I've thought about that before, but never actually done it as scum. Since as town it's a lot easier to get away with gathering early pressure. As scum it's harder to react. | ||
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On August 12 2014 21:07 Mages wrote: So if we don't get seven votes today, nobody is lynched, is that correct? Yeah, and that isn't really a good option. At the very least we should policy lynch the least useful player if nothing else, or this will never go anywhere. Hopefully we can agree to a decent candidate though. | ||
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On August 12 2014 21:09 Koshi wrote: batsnacks. I have know him to be pretty good town in TL Order. I have know him to be pretty batshit insane town in Titanic. I have observed him being pretty batshit insane town in Showdown. I have known him to be pretty shady/ghostly scum in Storm. Do I know him from somewhere else? I don't think so. 1) This game he is ghostly. He started the game with activity excuses. He repeated these activity excuses somewhere else in his filter. The excuses came out of nowhere really. 2) His jumping on KoCs is not consistent with how he is approaching the game. Suddenly he is 100% certain on a scum. 3) 1 page filter. 4) Awkward stuff around the Damdred previous game stuff. Just awkward. Nothing insane about it. This is all out of memory. Somebody should really look at those posts I quote about him. Ugh, people are townreading him and I don't know why. I don't really like the KoC vote either... It's a bit sudden to just go 100% scum on him based on little evidence after doing nothing before. A more townie mindset would be to try and figure stuff out rather than settling on one target and just leaving it at that. | ||
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On August 12 2014 21:58 Koshi wrote: Harurh, Show me where rayn reads batsnacks as scum. He basically said that everyone except KoC, Haru, batsnacks and VE feel town. Not exactly a scumread but close to it. | ||
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On August 12 2014 22:21 Koshi wrote: hahahahaha↓ less than 2 pages in game, only 1 event, KoC didn't ignore that event. When pressured about why you put a 4th vote on mm1 without any basis. Here we go again... At least the amount of points is reduced by now. 1) I just don't get it. Why does it matter if it was only 2 pages in game? Where am I even saying any lie? The fact still remains that he was around, at least to some extent, for several hours / 2 pages and all he did was post those two small questions. Now I can understand that it might be just his general playstyle after looking at his earlier towngame, but at the time I was only answering VE's question about why was I more interested in KoC over Onegu and I had no idea about KoC's meta back then. So there's no contradiction, no lie, nothing. It's simply a short answer to VE's question that is absolutely devoid of lies. 2) A) The vote wasn't "without any basis". Now you're lying..... Sigh. B) I don't see what's wrong with putting your vote on your only, although weak, scumread. C) It's just objectively better to talk about wagons than to talk off-topic. My vote didn't move the discussion away from Avatar, no, but certainly it was more constructive to the discussion than delaying my vote and talking about something less relevant. It's just plain good to move your vote around according to your opinions. | ||
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On August 12 2014 22:30 raynpelikoneet wrote: Koshi i don't totes agree with you. In his town game he actually reaches to some conclusions. In his scumgame he doesn't. He talks about irrelevant stuff. While you are right in that he asks way more questions in his town game i don't see how this looks like his town game at all (because the questions are dumb - not thought out - and there are zero conclusions at all). Maybe... But this still looks closer to his towngame IMO. I hope he starts actually doing something with all of his questions though. | ||
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On August 12 2014 22:21 Onegu wrote: Like not really, i really go off of feeling with rayn and try to figure out if he means what he says and what he is asking. And at this point I believe him and get no feelings the other way. And you're always correct? | ||
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On August 12 2014 22:47 onevone wrote: Haru: I'm not quite sure how VE is being inconsistent? He's been pretty consistently pushing MM1. And I think my reads have evolved quite a bit so I'd hardly call them "rehearsed". | ||
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On August 12 2014 23:22 raynpelikoneet wrote: Yeah i also make sense to marv. That's about it. ^^ You made sense to me at some point, but less so in later games. Granted you've also rolled scum a lot. | ||
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On August 12 2014 23:25 VisceraEyes wrote: MyysteryMeat is still on the table too right guys? Can we lynch MM yet? I don't really think so considering his lynchbait status and some of the townie things he said. Plus it wasn't really that bad of him to downplay himself considering that he's a lynchbait and it was in response to another post. | ||
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On August 12 2014 23:29 raynpelikoneet wrote: I've been awesome in my later town games. I even got lynched once because i was so awesome. Just trust me. Haru is scum. Hahaha Well, he can die. I still haven't heard why VE is inconsistent or why I'm being "rehearsed". And that vote on me was the ultimate throwaway vote without any ambition. | ||
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On August 12 2014 23:34 Koshi wrote: It bothers me you are so silent about batsnacks. Yeah, I'd like to know rayn's opinion on batsnacks. | ||
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On August 12 2014 23:47 raynpelikoneet wrote: i like bats. And I like cats. Could you say something more in-depth? | ||
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On August 12 2014 23:54 Sn0_Man wrote: 7 hours and 5 mins to deadline also wow dis thread moving So Haru will return just around the time of the deadline... I hope it's before rather than after... | ||
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On August 12 2014 23:59 raynpelikoneet wrote: btw i really did. all the TL ppl did lynch me on another forum (Palmar, Koshi and Robik) as i told them how many mafia are left in a no-flip game and then told them who are the last mafia. Then i afked for the weekend. Apparently i climed someone's role (when i in fact claimed scum and all other shit). It was kinda funny <3 By the way, I found you more towny than currently in another game and you were scum. I sincerely hope you'll put in more effort if you're town. | ||
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On August 13 2014 00:24 Koshi wrote: ahh rayn. Yeah, but it is not that alignment indicative. All people who say they can read rayn base it on the fact that his arguments are better and of higher quality when he is town compared to when he is scum. I share your restriction to call him town. The thing he did with putting Onegu on the spot to call him town is something Robik reads rayn scum for iirc. But in the end I want to lynch into other people before rayn. rayn should be like auto D3 lynch. I agree. I think there's a somewhat good chance that he's scum here, but I don't think he's good D1 lynch material. | ||
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On August 13 2014 02:04 kushm4sta wrote: boldified is a contradiction. Why is he top townreading someone who he thinks is fabricating conversation? Yeah this is definitely weird. | ||
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On August 12 2014 23:13 HaruRH wrote: Meanwhile, ill just throw my vote with 1v1. ##Unvote ##Vote: Onevone On August 12 2014 23:13 HaruRH wrote: Show me a game where I made sense d1 and youre allowed to lynch me right here right now. | ||
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On August 13 2014 00:50 marvellosity wrote: Day 1 Votecount MysteryMeat1 ( 0 ) - TheKingOfTheCats ( 2 ) - VisceraEyes ( 0 ) - onevone ( 0 ) - Mages ( 1 ) - Damdred batsnacks ( 6 ) - HaruRH ( 3 ) - There are ~6h 10min until deadline. You need 7 votes to lynch someone today. This is a bit outdated already, I think Mages voted for batsnacks and kush voted for HaruRH after it. And batsnacks just voted for HaruRH. I think it's rather safe to assume that there's scum among batsnacks/HaruRH/Mages. At least one. In that case batsnacks is not very likely scum, since the other two easily sheeped to him. I guess it's a bit premature to evaluate the wagons like this, but at least it makes some sense to me. | ||
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On August 13 2014 01:02 Mages wrote: For the sake of moving this along, as well as a change of heart, I ##unvote ##Vote Batsnacks Why did you vote for batsnacks again btw? | ||
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On August 13 2014 03:56 Mages wrote: Like seriously, you stare at a manatee long enough you're gonna start seeing a mermaid. I've seen nothing from you guys over the last two days but more flip flopping that mitt romney. Make a decision already. You could offer your input to the discussion as well. It's not like you absolutely must follow the strongest consensus theory. | ||
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On August 13 2014 03:58 Sn0_Man wrote: Mages is strongly against all forms of scumhunting. It's against his wincon. Hahaha, thanks. This game has made me laugh so much already. | ||
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On August 13 2014 03:59 Sn0_Man wrote: Koshi why does rayn make more sense than you though? Like i preferred the batsnax lynch for so long but... :/ Not sure what this means? | ||
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On August 13 2014 04:02 Sn0_Man wrote: It means that I'm currently agreeing with rayn a lot and that koshi's looking... bad So I wanna see what he has to say for himself. what else is that supposed to mean? Oh yeah, you meant "why does rayn make less sense than you?". Nvm. | ||
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On August 13 2014 04:04 Sn0_Man wrote: Day 1 is actually the stone worst why can't I have flips and shit to help think. I badly don't want to vote with VE and MM1 for example also why the fuck is VE comfortable voting with MM1 still his top scumread? but asdjl;fhal;sdkfjas;ldfk everythign sucks Lol, that's true. | ||
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On August 13 2014 04:02 Koshi wrote: Tell me why you are sheeping/voting with rayn. Why rayn is convincing? Why is this rayn town? Why are you sheeping/voting with VE? VE votes for the person he forgot in his lurker list of 4 names/ Why are you voting with MM1? Read the Showdown filter from batsnacks and see how he EVERY day posts in the timeframe before todays lynch. But today he can't. Odd much? rayn is doing nothing. Nothing. Best lynch is VE or batsnacks if you want to keep people who actually CONTRIBUTE. Because those 2 don't and have a hot shot on being scum. Explain to me rayn his case on both Batsnacks and HaruRH. In detail please. Hopefully this is my last post. I am now lurking. Maybe I make 2 more posts. If I am generous. I really don't like voting with rayn too much. I think rayn has been mostly stating his opinions as facts and rarely used any kind of reasoning, and when he has, it's been cherry-picking a single quote or blowing something out of proportion (like that Haru's confusing notebook 100% must come from scum). I don't have much of a read on MM1/VE at the moment, so I'm not really opposed to voting with them. And I just don't like Haru. He seemed very disinterested in how to use his vote / what the result of the lynch would be, and his reads have been very bad, not even making sense as a coherent read collection. And he defends himself with him being a bad D1 player and goes AFK without answering any of my questions... Not really sure how it makes batsnacks scum to be AFK? Stuff happens. Haru is AFK as well. | ||
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On August 13 2014 04:43 TheKingOfTheCats wrote: Conclusions from all the questions i asked: I have none, i'm completely clueless. If i had the inclination to read more into players actions atm i'd probably find something but honestly at this exact point in time i couldn't care less about this game so that's not going to happen today. I also don't care who gets lynched today. It'll mean i have 1 less person to think about and if they flip red gg bunch of conf town and in the more likely event they flip green i'll be able to pick apart peoples reasons for voting them. If this post makes any of you want to vote for me i completely understand and i'm completely ok with it. ##Vote: TheKingOfTheCats This is probably the worst post of the game no matter your alignment. I really hope you're not town. | ||
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On August 13 2014 04:56 Koshi wrote: If Kings was actual scum with Harurh he would put his vote on scum to look good. Not this. I think that's what he should do, but maybe he thought the situation was unsalvageable? I've seen a couple of games where the whole scumteam practically gave up quite early on. In the end I think it's more likely that KoC and Mages are just anti-town townies. | ||
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On August 13 2014 05:16 Mages wrote: Then I won't elaborate. But anyone who believes my tirade earlier should realize, I haven't played werewolves for 15 years to break down that easily, especailly not on a board where a dear friend invited me and I have an impression to make. By the end of this game, I guarantee you'll understand completely why Damdred brought me here. I can believe that town Mages would think of a plan like this, since I'm guilty of similar plans myself. I'd advice you not to rely on making yourself look bad to bait reactions from now on though. It should be more helpful to just play normally, at least in usual circumstances. | ||
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On August 13 2014 05:20 Mages wrote: Damdred, you need to trust me on this, Haru is not Mafia, and you need to change your vote. What makes you so sure? | ||
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On August 13 2014 05:32 Mages wrote: OneVOne, you're right, under normal times I wouldn't have done the near suicidal play I just did, but i had to know each of you and the only way to do that was to bait you guys. Shan-Yu, get to know a man, if you know what I mean. Haruh is not mafia based on my inclination to believe that Damdred believes me to be evil, and Haruh as well. Damdred has admitted to me in the past that he believes I'm better at mafia, and in most cases this is true but he's not bad either. I know that Damdred is wrong about me, and by extension he is wrong about Haruh. Give me 10 minutes to sate my screaming infant and I'll post a grander and more detailed reasoning why pretty please. Others mentioned it already, but yeah, how does that even make Haru town? | ||
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On August 13 2014 05:55 raynpelikoneet wrote: 1h. vote for haru. make scum!koshi sad . !! Wat | ||
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On August 13 2014 05:16 Mages wrote: Then I won't elaborate. But anyone who believes my tirade earlier should realize, I haven't played werewolves for 15 years to break down that easily, especailly not on a board where a dear friend invited me and I have an impression to make. By the end of this game, I guarantee you'll understand completely why Damdred brought me here. On August 13 2014 06:20 Mages wrote: No, this is straightforward Mages being done with this boards rules. They work for you guys, and that's cool, they just don't work for me. What happened? | ||
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On August 13 2014 06:23 Mages wrote: I slipped up. Couldn't cover my tracks, and derailed everything I had setup. I am beyond pissed off at myself and am in the process of ragequitting. Well then. ##Unvote ##Vote Mages | ||
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On August 13 2014 06:28 Mages wrote: The part where I fucked up was about Cats, and the loose placing of his name. I had put that he was town in my 'revelation' yet had my vote left on him, i had put ##Vote TheKingofCats for one reason or another, when I had meant to put ##unvote, it was a simple matter of putting #unvote but i wrote the wrong thing, i didn't think i'd be noticed so quickly so yes, I attempted to change it to what i had originally intended it to read. I have this huge flaw of 'mistyping' when I'm scum or otherwise, and usually end up going back and proofreading myself several times because of mistakes like this. This board's version of no-editing is my pitfall, and it got me. Kudos team good. I don't understand why you wouldn't just EBWOP it and say that you mistyped it in a hurry, nobody would have doubted you. But thanks for the free lynch I guess. | ||
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On August 13 2014 06:30 Mages wrote: I dont know what EBWOP means? Edit By Way Of Posting, posting the same post again with the fixed content. | ||
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On August 13 2014 06:28 Mages wrote: The part where I fucked up was about Cats, and the loose placing of his name. I had put that he was town in my 'revelation' yet had my vote left on him, i had put ##Vote TheKingofCats for one reason or another, when I had meant to put ##unvote, it was a simple matter of putting #unvote but i wrote the wrong thing, i didn't think i'd be noticed so quickly so yes, I attempted to change it to what i had originally intended it to read. I have this huge flaw of 'mistyping' when I'm scum or otherwise, and usually end up going back and proofreading myself several times because of mistakes like this. This board's version of no-editing is my pitfall, and it got me. Kudos team good. | ||
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On August 13 2014 06:38 Koshi wrote: Dude why did you give up? Nobody knew you edited on purpose because you have a meta for misstyping things? Just play it cool and say "Ohh sorry I didn't know, I wanted to unvote but misstyped and wanted to fix it". This. There was absolutely no reason to concede, nobody would have believed that it wasn't a mistype. It feels a bit dirty to win like this. | ||
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On August 13 2014 05:05 Mages wrote: But in all seriousness - I went through several near bi-polar personalities this game to gauge reactions and who would be the quickest to jump on a bandwagon. That being revealed, I have come to the following conclusions about who is good and who is evil. rayn- Was quite hasty to jump all over me, however he seems to have towns best interests at heart that's why he fights so vehemently. I would hazard a guess that he is Blue. ve- Seems to be evil, none of his arguments really stick out to me. MysteryMeat1- Received much early game hate, not nearly so much in the later part of the game, so he's managed to turn people around, if he were evil with such a high vote count I Think he would have let it ride. Damdred- Another person i falsely accused to see how they would react to me. Damdred is without a doubt Blue. onevone- koc- Is defnitely green koshi- Not evil, more lighthearted and posts a somewhat normal amount. Suspicion : Townie batsnacks- He could talk the devil into setting himself on fire. High percentage chance of being evil. Sn0_Man- By far the person who went hardest against me, during the 'sarcasm IDGAF' phase. Has a low tolerance to bullshit and seems far more vested in this game than anyone else. Doesn't do quote fests, but comes up with original prose. Intense Likelihood of being Good. Onegu- Doesn't seem to post a lot, and didn't really respond to any of my personas. Doesn't seem involved, jury is out. HaruRH- Is about as scummy as I am. lol | ||
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On August 13 2014 04:53 onevone wrote: One scenario where I won't lose my faith in humanity is that Haru+Mages+KoC are scum and can't be bothered to fight on anymore. But I think the truth is more unfortunate. Maybe I was actually right here? | ||
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On August 13 2014 06:55 Sn0_Man wrote: Oh yeah silent night inc huh. Well we'll see wat happens. I still want 8 on mages for safety. No worry, it would be a scumclaim to unvote him. | ||
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