Neat & Tidy Mini Mafia

On August 11 2014 10:19 Sn0_Man wrote:
Preliminary townread? really? hows that help...

On August 11 2014 10:20 Damdred wrote:
As long qs koshi is useful and wants to help discussion he is obvious town.

On August 11 2014 10:22 Damdred wrote:
I'm not saying scum koshi couldn't do that but he would probably try to maximize post count don't you think?

On August 11 2014 10:45 Mages wrote:
I can't help but feel I'm at a disadvantage still, people already stating townreads, all I'm seeing is introductory day 1 posting, course where im from this is a lot more than what i'm used to granted, but i will learn your ways. Is it considered a red herring for someone to so blatantly declare that they're town?

On August 11 2014 13:25 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:

Do you actually have an opinion on the case on MM?

On August 11 2014 11:51 VisceraEyes wrote:
I think MysteryMeat is scum. GET REKT SON NEEEEXT

On August 11 2014 14:16 batsnacks wrote:
I haven't read anything yet but howdy hey... how ya'll doing?

On August 11 2014 15:43 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:
Kush do you have any thoughts on Haru?

On August 11 2014 16:37 Koshi wrote:
Scum always make cases in 2 different posts. Mostly they wait a bit longer than 2 minutes between the posts but still. They always make a post in advance to ask "permission" from the thread. Or out of eufory that they (aka scummers) found something they announce it to the thread like it is a big deal. While a townie would just give the reasoning + vote.


##vote: VisceraEyes

On August 11 2014 22:16 onevone wrote:
What is there to say? I just arrived at the thread and saw Koshi's latest post, then asked if he was still around. It's not content, but it's not alignment indicative either. The way you asked about it was infinitely more useless than my original questions.

On August 12 2014 05:54 Sn0_Man wrote:
kush u mentioned 3 of the 2-posters wat about batsnacks?

On August 12 2014 06:01 onevone wrote:


Is Haru scummy or just a policy lynch to you? I think some of the same logic applies to him as to batsnacks. I don't think I've ever seen scum open in a way that's totally bad/useless.

On August 12 2014 06:34 onevone wrote:
Koshi, could you explain VE? I'm not completely sure why you're voting for him.

On August 12 2014 01:05 Mages wrote:
I think Koshi is good at least because of his ideas on the duality of downplaying between me and MM not being completely sound, how we both downplayed reasonably the same yet one of us was chosen as evil simply because of fluff. I had asked Kush at the beginning to tell me about himself so i could get to know him a wee bit better, the way he responded didn't look so nice.

Note : Bolds are mine to draw attention to the crux of my discussion.










So, Koshi's fine to me, Kush is a little bit more suspicious because of hostility, and Onevone im gonna need a little bit more time on.

On August 12 2014 07:03 Sn0_Man wrote:
I'm pretty sure mages post was like really early kush

On August 12 2014 10:52 batsnacks wrote:
I think it's interesting that damdred and his buddy mages are scum reading each other.

On August 12 2014 08:54 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
I'll pass on posting a list of my reads.



I only posted this becasue Kush and VE said that me vacating the thread after it got serious was scummy, even though i only left for 2 hours...

I'm still not liking VE, he did say he was going to shoot Koshi tonight, but VE still hasn't done anything town, besides tunnel on a town the whole entire day.

1v1: I get a town feeling from him, Though i still don't like his agenda pushing. I think he's trying harder to scum hunt, but the fact that he put the 4th vote on me that early, makes me question it a little bit more.

On August 12 2014 19:51 onevone wrote:


Not really. There are some things that really make me lean town, like his super careless opening posts and openly asking who he should sheep. All of that serves no purpose as scum, in fact it's harmful to his survival, but I could certainly see town posting like that. I also pretty much agree that KoC posting a hundred questions isn't really helpful while appearing to be contributive (especially since some of the questions were repeated questions from earlier).

He hasn't really done anything besides that though.

On August 12 2014 11:33 Sn0_Man wrote:
I'm with kush atm.

##Vote: batsnacks
I'll be back in 12ish hours. Lots of time for things to change but considering its majority lynch I like getting a vote out there *relatively* early

On August 12 2014 21:16 Mages wrote:
lol, kush youve been against me since the word go.

On August 12 2014 12:18 batsnacks wrote:


I think Damdred told his buddy about this awesome site for playing mafia called tl.net. And now someone who plays similarly to Damdred is playing with us; his name is mages. If this is true, isn't interesting that during their first game playing together here, that they would scum read each other?

I would expect friends from another site to form some kind of initial camaraderie around each other in their first game together on this site. The fact that Damdred is so quick to scum read his buddy, indicates the seriousness of his conviction.

On August 13 2014 00:39 Onegu wrote:



I have I really think bat is scum, the way he came back into the thread asking who he should sheep was scummy as hell.

On August 12 2014 19:44 HaruRH wrote:
Alright I'm backa. I have made a nice little chart of everything that have happened so far (who called who scum/town etc) and I have noticed some weird stuff:

Out of the many interactions over here, 3 stood out for me:

1)MM1 called 1v1 town, but 1v1 called MM1 scum. It is almost like they chose to talk about each other just so that they have content about one another.
2)batsnacks is universally scumread by everyone (sn0,rayn,koshi,kush). Nobody have townread bat so far.
3)Damndred/mages interaction feels out of place and feels forced. It almost feels like they are staging a show just to show that they interacted with one another. They used meta from unquotable/uncheckable sources that obviously shows that they are staging some sort of performance.

As such, I have my list out:

Top town: Haru

Leaning town: MM1 (he always die early and is always the lynch target)

Fence: kush, mages, rayn, onegu, kotc, damndred, sn0,bat (I still need time to evaluate their game play).

Leaning scum: koshi (he has been the most wishy washy player till now)
VE (his reads are not consistent)
1v1 (his reads feels forced and rehearsed, almost a perfect copy each time he gives his list)

On August 12 2014 19:49 HaruRH wrote:
from my preliminary read with what I wrote down in my notebook that I copied off onegu's idea because I thought that was a good idea.
I circled (koshi townreads sn0, changes to wanting to lynch him for lying, then changes to liking him) in my notebook.

On August 12 2014 22:11 HaruRH wrote:
You guys need to show me where I wrote down mistakes, I am literally copying everything in my notebook, which is what I written down after going through the thread once.

On August 12 2014 22:41 HaruRH wrote:
officially updating what I wrote in my notebook after some errors have been spotted in my attempt to pen down everything; this is my first time trying this shit to supplement my shitty d1. Don't bother scumreading me for this post because this just represents what I wrote and found interesting, plus my after thoughts. You don't need to agree with them.

On August 12 2014 23:48 HaruRH wrote:
I literally cannot provide any content now because I spent too much of my only free time doing that stupid notebook idea. I still like that idea tho, I will try to do it for all my games in the future (and try to not make any mistakes)
1v1 I will explain them tomorrow when I wake up, approx. 7 hours later.

On August 13 2014 01:51 Sn0_Man wrote:
I'd probably rather lynch mages than haru, dunno.

snackbats is still easily the best lynch pending further developments.

On August 13 2014 02:17 Sn0_Man wrote:
Out of curiosity, what kind of scum posts "Don't bother scumreading me for this post" lol

On August 13 2014 02:21 Sn0_Man wrote:
Because snackbats has a terrible thread entry, no contribution from there, and a terrible attitude.

On August 13 2014 02:21 Sn0_Man wrote:
Because haru looks like an idiot who tried something new and rayn is on one of those "this guy said something incorrect MUST BE SCUM" pushes that are super meaningless and also his favourite thing ever.

On August 13 2014 02:23 Sn0_Man wrote:
Also because it's majority lynch we can't just all vote whoever so there's value to consolidation.

On August 13 2014 02:36 Koshi wrote:
Why are you so hard try battie?

On August 13 2014 05:32 Mages wrote:
I know that Damdred is wrong about me, and by extension he is wrong about Haruh.

On August 14 2014 08:00 VisceraEyes wrote:
Batsnacks Damdred Kush Mages ftw?

On August 15 2014 10:32 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
as much as i don't like it, i think we should leave VE alive for a day or two more.

On August 14 2014 20:00 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
I really don't like onegu. I had a brief interaction with him. He said he came back and was rereading the thread. However the moment i posted stuff he responded. I felt like he wanted time to make sure his story matched with mafia. He pushed on bats while siding with mages. he also hasn't posted in a while.

I'm willing to vote for him now in the hopes that he comes back to the thread and contributes.

On August 15 2014 23:38 Koshi wrote:

How the fuck are you going to vote for somebody on the Mages wagon? There is no case on MM1. He always plays like he plays atm. Look at Noir2.

He has an insanely daring opening conversation with Mages if both scum:


Then you got waffling city from Mages on the MM1 wagon. He is not trying to stop it at all.


This is terrible though, depends what Mages want to do here. I guess nullish?


All in all.


FUCKING TERRIBLE LYNCH

What about we lynch batsnacks or Onegu?

Who seem to be incapable to speak to each other.

On August 16 2014 01:25 Sn0_Man wrote:

The entire reason i was mad during my thread read-through was because none of the people that i wish to lynch have any desire to look townie.

I want to lynch bsnax, 1gu, VE, and MM1 probably. With little to choose between them. bsnax i'm worried about his mages interactions, 1gu i dunno didn't seem the most scummy, VE has a medic claim, MM1 has meta of sucking ass. It's hard to decide who is likely to be scum vs who is playing like shit for no reason.

But I'm also like really suspicious of Rayn I just don't think it makes sense to try and push him over those 4 right now. And I harbour lingering doubts about koshi and you too but w/e. Again, I don't feel like I can properly analyze or push active trying players without taking out the trash first, so to speak.

I dunno I just wish that more people would be obvtown or something.

On August 16 2014 03:50 Sn0_Man wrote:
oke oke voting bsnax should be informative or something

for visibility ##Vote: batsnacks

On August 16 2014 06:56 batsnacks wrote:


I should have cced immediately period.

On August 19 2014 01:01 VisceraEyes wrote:
That's another thing that makes me confirmed not scum - scum tried to counterclaim me right before they got lynched. LMAO! I was a hard-lurker at the time and he tried to counterclaim me on the block.