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kush you need to realize going into this game I have fans like you everywhere I go. Like, seriously, you should see my twitch.tv inbox. | ||
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##vote: KingOfCats for quadruple posting seven questions and nothing else. I do not feel that KingOfCats cares if his questions are answered. On August 12 2014 09:50 TheKingOfTheCats wrote: Currently on page 10 and posting as i read. I don't know if these questions have already been answered. Also expect double/triple/octuple/whatever posts, i don't care if it's against the rules, it's necessary. It isn't necessary, you could have consolidated your 7 questions into one post. I think it's interesting that damdred and his buddy mages are scum reading each other. | ||
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On August 12 2014 11:00 Damdred wrote: So you would rather he not say anything and just continue to lurk? Also his quad posting happened 8 minutes, 3 minutes and 11 minutes apart if anyone else was in the thread at the time it wouldn't of been a quad post. Also hes done more than you bat are you caught up with the thread? Do you have questions? or are you just going to vote a guy for at least posting all his questions look pretty towny right now. Also Mages isn't scum reading me he is casting doubt on me because i'm being talkative and injecting myself into the thread instead of lurking. His vote and your vote on KOC are weird honestly, i'm sure that Mages is mafia at this point unless someone can convince me otherwise and right now you are acting pretty bad right now bat I'm caught up. I don't really care how many minutes apart his quad post was. I think his questions show a "this is what I -can- comment on" mindset. Not a "this is what I -should be- commenting on" mindset. Even if people do respond to those questions, the responses will be really spread out, nothing is going to get done. They are questions for the sake of questions. He even said "I don't know if these have been asked already." He could have just written the questions down, waited until he finished reading, and then ask them all at once if they had in fact not been answered. You think mages is mafia; I think it's great that you've reached such a strong conviction so quickly, I've never seen you this confident about a read before. From my perspective though, his responses to your inquiries didn't seem weird. I don't really have any questions. If there was anything specifically you want to know about I'll be happy to share my thoughts. Right now they're kind of scattered but I do like where my vote is at. | ||
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On August 12 2014 11:21 Damdred wrote: Ok bat I probably did react a bit harshly there so i'm sorry about that. I just don't like the vote but I do agree he should consolidate his post really. What do you think about these posters bat, Kush, Mages and Haru? I liked kush's roleplay comments those made me smile which, posts that make me smile make me think town. I also like that he had the opportunity to vote me but elected to wait and give me a chance to post a little first. I think you and mages post really similar. He reads just like you did in your first few games. You both write like you're sharing your inner dialogue in the moment, if that makes sense. I can definitely see how you guys have played/came from the same place before. It's hard to form an opinion on him. I got punished last game for giving you a free ride, and I don't want to make that mistake again by giving someone who posts like you a free ride, but at the same time it makes me want to give him a good chance. I don't know what Haru is doing I've played with him a few times before but I've never seen him do anything like this. Gut tells me scum haru, or scum anyone, wouldn't act like this, but that doesn't mean I approve of the weird behavior. | ||
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On August 12 2014 11:33 Sn0_Man wrote: I'm with kush atm. ##Vote: batsnacks I'll be back in 12ish hours. Lots of time for things to change but considering its majority lynch I like getting a vote out there *relatively* early It's about time this guy voted me too. You've been on my nuts all day. | ||
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On August 12 2014 11:58 Damdred wrote: Bat besides koc who would you vote and why? You because I'm salty about last game. Aren't you glad I voted koc? On August 12 2014 11:58 TheKingOfTheCats wrote: What makes you feel that i don't care if my questions are answered? Because you didn't post them in a way that was easy to answer. Be honest: as long as no one is voting you or talking about voting you, you don't care about those questions. | ||
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On August 12 2014 12:06 Sn0_Man wrote: Leave last game out of it. Koc's allowed to post questions, although it'd be nice if it was slightly more consolidated. No. | ||
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On August 12 2014 12:12 Sn0_Man wrote: yes or else? I'm going to go with the "else" option. Last game weighs heavily on how I will be judging Damdred. It's not going to change. You're already voting me, you have nothing to threaten me with. So please. Issue some more ultimatums. Don't ask me questions. | ||
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I think Damdred told his buddy about this awesome site for playing mafia called tl.net. And now someone who plays similarly to Damdred is playing with us; his name is mages. If this is true, isn't interesting that during their first game playing together here, that they would scum read each other? I would expect friends from another site to form some kind of initial camaraderie around each other in their first game together on this site. The fact that Damdred is so quick to scum read his buddy, indicates the seriousness of his conviction. | ||
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On August 12 2014 12:41 Damdred wrote: Ok so i doubt the mage wagon will get much taction at this rate so i won't push past this post until he posts some more ill keep my vote on him though. Ok bat why is your vote on koc then? You said it wasn't a case at all. You also said you are nt giving mages a free pass (which btw i wasn't given a free pass got the crap kicked out of me three times just about). But you aren't pressuring him you'd rather vote with him... Seems like everyone agrees with everything I've said about koc yet they still don't want me voting him. I have an hour at most left of consciousness before I won't be able to make substantial posts until the same time tomorrow night. Like I said earlier, my schools start next week. I have more work to do than is possible to finish in any realistic amount of time. I figured it was important to get a vote out in the open now while I have some time to talk about what's going on. koc looks bad to me. No one will answer those questions he asked, and if they do, nothing will ever come of them. If I were scum, koc's questions would be the first thing I'd want to respond to. That's how I feel, so I voted him, and so far no one has given me a good reason to unvote him. | ||
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On August 12 2014 13:07 TheKingOfTheCats wrote: Mages didn't really scumread Damdred and Damdred is voting Mages because Mages pressure voted me and made a post that looked like he was calling Damdred scum and then didn't follow that up with a vote. There really isn't much to his case. Do you have any reasons for thinking Mages is scum other than that Damdred does? No, I don't have any reasons for thinking mages is scum. I never said I thought he was. I said he reminds me of Damdred. | ||
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On August 12 2014 13:12 TheKingOfTheCats wrote: The only thing you've said about me is that you don't like that i've (repeatedly) broken the no double posting rule and that you don't think anything will come of my questions, something that amounts to nothing more than a guess and even if that is the case you've given no reason as to why you think i've posted questions that i know people won't answer. You don't have a case on me, that's why people "don't want you voting me". You summed it up better than I could have. Maybe someone's going to blow my mind, answer your questions, and it will wind up being the most important play all game long. I can't predict these things. Until then, I'm satisfied with my guess. Until then, I believe you did knowingly space out your questions into multiple posts in order to make your thought process more difficult to consolidate. | ||
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##vote: HaruRH | ||
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Don't mafia and drive kids | ||
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But yeah I'm still curious, why 1v1? He had the biggest filter. Don't people like to say that whoever has the biggest filter d1 is auto-town? | ||
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On August 14 2014 11:05 HaruRH wrote: Thats just a heuristic. I had my worries abiut the damdred-mages interaction. However, I don't think it was a scum-scum interaction. So i wrote off damdred as town. Kush is town. Koshi maybe town. Im town. Rayn probably town. Mm1 is town. Therefore, I considered shooting in the pool of: Bat/ve/kotc/sn0/onegu/1v1. Out of these, bat/ve were lynchable. Not wasting bullets on them. Kotc was townread by some. So I was to shoot in sn0/onegu/1v1. But I ranked it as 1v1 > sn0 > onegu in terms of who I wanna shoot more. Onegu voted me at the end and didnt shift. 1v1/sn0 was the first 2 to jump on mages AFTER his concede. Could be a bus. So I had to decide who of these 2 to shoot, and I chose 1v1 because he feels the hardest to lynch of these 2. That was my thought process. If you're town, everything you just said and can say about this game is a heuristic. Even after reading this post, I still don't feel like I understand why you picked 1v1. Did you realize you were targeting the person with the largest filter? | ||
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On August 14 2014 11:40 HaruRH wrote: What does that even prove? Largest filter=town? I can quote you many games where d1 most filter =/= town. Like my only scum loss. Well, since you're offering, I will take a look at the many games you can quote where scum had the largest d1 filter. | ||
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On August 15 2014 02:04 Koshi wrote: 1 shot vig, 1 shot cop and then a medic is possible vs 2 scum powerroles. Why would that be op? If VE were the medic he wouldn't have claimed like that. You feel that I'm right, I know you do. | ||
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ve isn't the medic; there is no medic Ve knows there isn't a medic That isn't how medic claims medic, that's how scum claims medic Just think about it | ||
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On August 15 2014 02:28 Sn0_Man wrote: whaddya mean? either he's the medic, or scum don't have enough power roles for there to be a medic or he's gambling all of which could be true The way he claimed makes me believe of those is more likely than the other two. | ||
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On August 15 2014 02:47 Koshi wrote: batsnacks. Comment about other things please. There is no way we will ever lynch VE over you. That's a shame. If VE were town, mafia would have cced medic. VE being scum fits too well. You know I'm right. | ||
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On August 15 2014 06:16 Sn0_Man wrote: I'm imagining either onegu or batsnacks trying to help town by rising above the other's level and doing anything useful at all. I know I'm a bit of a dreamer. Give me some ideas because I'm out of them. | ||
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On August 15 2014 06:22 Sn0_Man wrote: Explain why ur listening to rayn lol thats generally a bad idea. If he's scum he's misleading u and if he's town he's off on a wild goose chase see: his HaruRH crusade. I'm happy to hear ur reasoning on things. Do you think the scumteam is now VE and Onegu? What reasoning do you have on Onegu BEYOND omgus because you look scummy enough for that not to be a reason. Just write me nice long posts filled with all your thoughts on the game so that I can read you  I don't actually have reasons for voting Onegu I just voted him for the hell of it; which is why I think he voted me, for the hell of it. So right back at him. Why not? This is entirely hypothetical but I think VE is scum who claimed medic and I think his reasoning for claiming medic is as follows: 0. VE is scum (assumption) 1.VE figures out there is no medic because medic, cop, and vig would be imbalanced for town 2. VE claims medic, knowing there is no medic 3. There is no medic, so town isn't going to CC 4. VE achieves uncced medic status for free; there is no gamble The reason I think this is the way he claimed. He claimed at the start of day 2 at the very first sign of trouble, right after he successfully shot the cop. He knows there is a cop, he knows there is a vig, so he assumes there can't be a medic. Does this make sense? | ||
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On August 15 2014 06:36 Sn0_Man wrote: This certainly makes sense, except for the part where I brought this up before you did so it doesn't really count as evidence of you thinking about the game the way town are expected to. Also that doesn't cover the other 7 people in the thread whom surely you have some thoughts on? Also "If you assume VE is Scum then he's Scum" isn't exactly ironclad proof and while I agree that his claim wasn't good, Koshi pointed out that he's made very bad claims before as town so it isn't proof of him being scum either. He does seem rather more interested in fighting with Koshi than in finding scum though. I didn't sheep you. I was posting from my phone at work I didn't even read the thread. And I wasn't claiming to have ironclad proof of VE being scum; I still think I'm right but there is no such proof I could give you. Who else do you want thoughts on? You're going to have to be specific because I'm tired of just talking about stuff at random to have people say THIS POST IS TERRIBLE or WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT THIS EFFECTIVE NOW OR YOU GET LYNCHED etc. | ||
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On August 15 2014 06:41 Koshi wrote: Onegu his entire filter is filled with reasons why he thinks you are scum batsnacks. Unlike you he did play on D1. I'm happy for him. | ||
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Why are you sure that I think rayn is town? Maybe I'm just conscious of the fact that more people listen to him than they do me. | ||
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Look I'm being rayn: Koshi are you scum? FLOCK YOU KOSHI WHY ARE YOU SO TERRIBLE | ||
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On August 15 2014 06:58 Sn0_Man wrote: Yes but what does that have to do with who is scum? What do you want? My third time asking this. You want a list post with little bullet points next to everyone's name colored red/green for what alignment I think they are? If you can't figure out what you want from me, why should I be able to? | ||
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Keep taking it easy guys. Look where it got me in Showdown mafia; if you weren't in that game, just ask Kush. I'm sure he would love another opportunity to talk about it. | ||
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On August 15 2014 07:24 Koshi wrote: How are you doing on: KoC is mafia because he asks questions in different post so his thought process was harder to understand. HaruRH is mafia because Notebook HaruRG and end D1 Haru are different. VE is scum because town can't have 1 shot cop, medic and Vigi against a Godfather and RB. Maybe ask a little nicer and I'll care a little more. | ||
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KOC, technically, looks worse than anyone in the game. I don't care that asking tons of pointless questions that never get answered is part of his meta, it looks bad. It's like even if people answer his questions, that's actually worse for town than if they had just ignored him. Yet people are actually town reading him? That's lazy. HaruRH said he shot 1v1 which, even though I thought his reasons were incomprehensible, I still believe him. I believe him because I think anyone shooting the longest d1 filter is incomprehensible. His actions = incomprehensible ; his explanations = incomprehensible. It's not much but at least the two match. I still think VE is scum because: On August 15 2014 06:31 batsnacks wrote: I don't actually have reasons for voting Onegu I just voted him for the hell of it; which is why I think he voted me, for the hell of it. So right back at him. Why not? This is entirely hypothetical but I think VE is scum who claimed medic and I think his reasoning for claiming medic is as follows: 0. VE is scum (assumption) 1.VE figures out there is no medic because medic, cop, and vig would be imbalanced for town 2. VE claims medic, knowing there is no medic 3. There is no medic, so town isn't going to CC 4. VE achieves uncced medic status for free; there is no gamble The reason I think this is the way he claimed. He claimed at the start of day 2 at the very first sign of trouble, right after he successfully shot the cop. He knows there is a cop, he knows there is a vig, so he assumes there can't be a medic. Does this make sense? | ||
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On August 15 2014 08:12 kushm4sta wrote: but batsnacks, why would he claim a pr when it's unlikely we have another pr? that's why i see the claim as null. Kush if you are the medic, do you claim when VE did? If I'm VE, I don't claim when he did. That's why. | ||
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If I were the real medic, and I were VE, I would not have claimed like that. At the first sign of trouble, and at the very beginning of the day; right after the cop and the vig had been revealed. | ||
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On August 15 2014 08:34 kushm4sta wrote: batsnacks I see what you are saying, but I'm taking it to the next level. It was obviously a fishy as hell claim so why would he claim it as scum? Though, sometimes scum make really bad claims because they are playing the level game and they know in a way bad claims are even more believable. But that is pretty rare. That's why I think it's safer to treat the claim as null. -Obviously- a fish as hell claim? Why have I been feeling like >50% of the players in this game disagree? | ||
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On August 15 2014 20:16 raynpelikoneet wrote: That is not an answer bats. You first thought haru was fakeclaiming. Then you said "oh damn i read one shot cop as blabla.." which means you do not question the vigi claim any more. THEN you start asking haru about why he shot 1v1. Again, how does it help you find mafia whatever haru answers? Don't avoid the question, answer it. Rayn I was done talking about this. You're the one still talking about it. I was curious why he picked 1v1, because that's not who I would have picked, so I asked him about it. That's it. That is the answer. | ||
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On August 15 2014 20:49 raynpelikoneet wrote: Okay why do you post stuff that does not help you find mafia? That's what we are doing herw - not discussing who made good / bad decisions. Could have fooled me. | ||
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Well now you all can vote him without the pressure of being first. ##unvote ##vote: VisceraEyes | ||
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On August 16 2014 01:30 Sn0_Man wrote: Koshi promises me ur supposed to be a boss as town bsnax. VE isn't the medic Koshi. There is no medic. Why don't you want to vote him? | ||
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But it stands. How is VE any less guilty than me? He has nothing except a claim. Our "medic" is doing less than me. | ||
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On August 16 2014 01:47 Koshi wrote: I am willing to change if you can give me 2 posts of VE that look off. Not only the medic claim. Or something from Mages his filter that incriminate VE. Anything at all that hasn't to do with the medic claim. How about his last 4 posts? All he does is cry about how you said he was bad and then he votes you and peaces out. I can not believe anyone believes that claim is legit. All of his responses since he claimed have been NOPE I'M MEDIC END OF STORY. He asks you how telling him he's bad isn't helping solve the game because he's town. Well how is him voting you and leaving helping town? | ||
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Last thing: I am so disappointed in you sno. Lynch me for information? Is that a joke? | ||
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On August 16 2014 04:32 raynpelikoneet wrote: Okay i will sheep Koshi. I hope he is right. ##Unvote: ##Vote: batsnacks I got 5min so if you have something to say to me say it now. Sucker. Keep VE alive another day for me, will you? | ||
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On August 16 2014 04:32 raynpelikoneet wrote: Okay i will sheep Koshi. I hope he is right. ##Unvote: ##Vote: batsnacks I got 5min so if you have something to say to me say it now. Sucker. Keep VE alive another day for me, will you? | ||
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On August 16 2014 04:06 slOosh wrote: Day 2 Votecount batsnacks ( 4 ) - Onegu, Koshi, HaruRH, Sn0_Man MysteryMeat1 ( 3 ) - TheKingOfTheCats, raynpelikoneet, kushm4sta, Koshi ( 1 ) - VisceraEyes VisceraEyes ( 1 ) - batsnacks 6 votes are required to lynch. Countdown till deadline: See that guy voting Koshi? I am the only one who voted him today. Feel ashamed; you deserve it. | ||
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On August 16 2014 05:11 kushm4sta wrote: reember damdred tho? u deserve it Kush when are you going to start sending me nudes? | ||
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On August 16 2014 05:23 Koshi wrote: Batsnacks. Why can you now post before deadline? I just got home and all I feel like doing is bitching and that's all you're going to get. You have already voted me, you can't threaten me with anything. | ||
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From my phone. By the way, you think VE is the medic. Just reminding you. | ||
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On August 16 2014 06:13 Koshi wrote: One more time: IF you are town. YOU fucked up. Not we, YOU. I do not believe you are town because of the cases I made against you. But now with this claim I am even more sure because I almost can't believe you wouldn't simply CC earlier and reduce scummers to 1. No difference in claiming earlier vs claiming now. VE still hasn't said a thing. Nothing has changed except I tried to avoid claiming to stay alive another day and make sure Haru doesn't die, which he will now. | ||
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On August 16 2014 06:21 Koshi wrote: Yeah... It kinda doesn't matter if it is you or Haru bro... Haru can't do more night actions It matters significantly because Haru is confirmed town. | ||
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Onegu, Koshi, HaruRH, Sn0_Man, raynpelikoneet, kushm4sta People who are being town read because town is lazy: TheKingOfTheCats Scum: VE | ||
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On August 16 2014 06:54 kushm4sta wrote: you should have cced immediately if you really are medic I should have cced immediately period. | ||
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