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PS after inning I felt qualified to vote yes for silent nights. | ||
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1) raynpelikoneet 2) GlowingBear 3) MysteryMeat1 4) Damdred 5) onevone 6) kushm4sta 7) TheKingOfTheCats 8) Mages 9) Koshi 10) batsnacks 11) Sn0_Man 12) 13) Note that glowingbear's slot may be available | ||
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I no longer inhabit lesotho no. I was born there tho and Canada's a boring place to put as ur location. | ||
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On August 11 2014 10:12 kushm4sta wrote: So far I've got a preliminary townread on koshi. His pledge not to post fluff is protown. I think scumkoshi would be more inclined to play to our expectations by shitting up the thread. Also his comment about posting townreads and scumreads looks like he wants to be useful. Agree/disagree with this read anyone? Preliminary townread? really? hows that help... regardless all he did was beg for somebody to carry him and then reiterated the statement, I fail to see how thats alignment indicative. | ||
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PS don't stop arguing with each other its helpful | ||
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On August 11 2014 23:39 onevone wrote: Honestly it's way too early to say that MM1 is today's lynch. The first wagon to get going is very rarely an actual lynch in my experience. But this is definitely a better topic to talk about than Avatar and it's likely that the clues to figure out the scumteam are already partly within reach from these first pages (combined with later evidence). I don't think "Figuring out the Scumteam" is our day 1 plan. Specifically, I think that scum would be more likely to think about the game in that manner over town who *should* be more concerned with finding exactly 1 scum day one, or else achieving a good, information-heavy lynch. | ||
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Also in a non-instant but still Majority Lynch game it's important to get votes out there at a reasonable time since it takes time to get 7? votes or however many we need today. Although you'll notice that I've refrained from voting. (#lynchbatsnax) | ||
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On August 12 2014 00:33 onevone wrote: Sn0_Man could be scum. He feels like the most lurky/invisible existence that still frequently posts in the thread. Nobody talks to me so :shrugface: | ||
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I see why you and rayn are asserting that. I'm not sure I agree that his posts are so "town mindset genuine" etc that he deserves a hard townread. On August 12 2014 00:38 onevone wrote: You could try taking an active role instead of making semi-useful comments here and there :/ Not really no | ||
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On August 12 2014 00:44 onevone wrote: Well then, what do you think of MM1, me and VE? I didn't like MM1's thread entry but I've been somehwat persuaded otherwise. Ur annoying. And I don't know who you are. And ur wrong about a lot. But Koshi and rayn are blowing some things wayyyyy out of proportion and it makes it hard to properly think about the case vs you since there are definitely good parts in it that are being obscured by silly arguments. VE entered the thread in a fun manner that I liked but that is also admittedly not particularly alignment indicative. I disliked his MM1 vote. | ||
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On August 12 2014 00:49 Koshi wrote: Why would scum Mages give a townread on KoC? Can you give me a reason? Sure, if he's like "well i gotta look loike i'm doing stuff better call out a lurker" then when we help him look at filters etc he backs off to be safe. Not that it's a particularly good reason but its about as possible as the "well he asked 2 small questions and never followed up on the answers at all must be town" read. | ||
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On August 12 2014 00:55 onevone wrote: You're townreading MM1 now or only don't dislike his entry anymore? What exactly am I wrong about? I dislike his entry less, we'll put it that way. It's still open to further reading pending more of him actually posting. things ur wrong about: On August 11 2014 22:07 onevone wrote: I think it's more fitting of scum rayn to make these generally meaningless comments on other posts. He's usually more focused as town. I'm too lazy to get more. He's plenty focused this game and playing normally. | ||
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On August 12 2014 01:11 onevone wrote: could be scum? better get that bandwagon started on such strong basis as "could be scum?" | ||
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On August 12 2014 01:17 raynpelikoneet wrote: Can you tell me what i have taken "way out of proportion"? I thought my case was pretty clear. He posts stuff that doesn't need to be posted - in fact there should be no reason to post that stuff. He doesn't really think anyone is town or mafia but he is still kinda saying so. Also if you think there are good points against onevone why are you holding your vote? Can you tell what those good point in your mind are? Or do you think one/both of me or Koshi are mafia pushing a townie lynch? Surely you remember how differently we read things. The real "blowing things out of proportion" push was koshi's but regardless, a quick example of a post of yours that I think is pushing on the wrong fronts On August 11 2014 22:48 raynpelikoneet wrote: So let's go through your post: 1) read on Mages. You gave him a townread without actually saying you think he is town and instead worded it another way around which kinda makes me think you don't want to call him town for some reason. 2) read on MM1. weak read and there is nothing scummy MM1 has said so far. In fact i don't even believe you think MM1 is mafia because you end the sentence with "He is the best vote so far". 3) null read on Koshi - why? 4) null read on VE - why? 1) I don't give "town" reads early either. I say things like "I like x's posting" etc. Words like "town" are strong, to me. 2) wats the issue with "so far"? Literally every early day-1 vote is obivously a "so far" vote unless you somehow can't unvote. I do now agree that the read was responded to well by koshi regarding MM1 clearly trying to foster a helpful thread environment which isn't something that I saw earlier, which means that I don't like his weak bandwagon vote here anymore. 3/4) Null reads early day 1 are more a lack of a read than "clearly null", unless theres been some serious discussion. Basically you just push on points that I don't agree with. Koshi has some sensible ideas and some I don't agree with as well, but I wasn't about to defend 1v1 on the silly points until he'd given a long accounting for himself (which I feel like he has by now). PS: anybody know who posts infinite smily faces in threads? 1v1 keeps doing it and its both annoying and suck-up-ish. | ||
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On August 12 2014 01:39 raynpelikoneet wrote: Sn0_Man could you also explain to me why you just said "it's more Koshi who is taking things out of proportion" but all of your post suggests otherwise. You don't like my points but Koshi has some sensible ideas. How does that make sense? Koshi's push on the "avatar" bit see: On August 12 2014 00:43 Koshi wrote: To me, its obvious here that what made MM1 1v1's vote candidate was his response to VE's pressure and the Kush/VE votes indicating that others agreed with him. Which really isn't a town mindset but is also not what Koshi was trying to push on him. Which is why I felt like you two weren't necessarily pushing on the right axis and it made it hard to read. Stop lieing. Here are your reads: The bolded is for both people the same. They downplay their game. BUT, the green stuff makes Mages a townread for you. While the red stuff made MM1 a scumread for you. Clearly Avatar talk made MM1 more scummy to you. If you say that it never did, I am just calling scumhunting for this day and make sure you are lynched. Maybe you were an overzealous townie, maybe, but don't tell me you weren't scumreading MM1 partly because he talked about Avatar. Because you did. Hence, On August 12 2014 00:45 Sn0_Man wrote: I don't read that post the same way koshi | ||
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Alright back to hypothetical land. MM1 gets modkilled on the spot, no flip till night post. (basically this is just "you can't vote for him"). who would you like to lynch? Also reasons. | ||
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or u prolly I'll vote if I feel like I seriously want to lynch somebody. | ||
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"Hi i'm here but i aint reading anything" followed by "Irrelevant irrelevancy about me being awesome at everything lvoe me" followed by oh wait nothing he aint even posted anything more what gives? AFK is fine but if ur gonna post in the thread when its happening (like 3 votes on the page he last posted on) then afk without content... yeah no | ||
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I have a bit of a fatalistic approach to day 1 lynches. Lynching scum would rock but realistically I'm never confident enough in Day 1 reads to hope for that too much. So I generally angle for a lynch with a reasonable probability of scum and a high probability of information and removal of useless/lurker players. This changes obivously if I somehow am convinced we found le scum. | ||
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@1v1 I mean one one hand those posts are more efforty and towny, but on the other hand they are more "Look how much I care" without actually then following up and doing things with it. I still dislike snackbats much more. | ||
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I've been away for a while so | ||
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I was mostly looking at this post: On August 11 2014 17:34 MysteryMeat1 wrote: Im going to sleep guys. Just so you know. Dont want to be seen as suspicious when the thread starts getting serious ^^ Like, what kind of moron posts that as scum...? | ||
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Scumteam totally 1v1, snackbats and VE. For post-game cred. | ||
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Okay I may be a tad confirmation biased right now. | ||
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@mages: The reason I feel like KingofCats isn't RIGHT NOW a good vote is because given ample opportunity to do nothing he has instead made posts that are clearly discussion stimulators and demonstrated that he was thinking about certain posts (specifically the haru sheep) and wanted opinions. The lack of followup is mildly disturbing but until he returns I'm willing to let it slide. Specifically, if he comes back and fails to prosecute that line of thinking or explain why he is now satisfied with respect to haru (which wouldn't make sense atm really), then I could see lynching him. For now, I'm giving him time. Snackbats had the opportunity to participate in the thread and/or drive discussion as he was posting in the middle of a very active period and instead chose to joke aroudn and be useless. | ||
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On August 12 2014 03:48 Koshi wrote: Stop saying stuff that are lies or exaggerations to push your agenda. Several hours is in this case fucking 7 posts. There are fucking SEVEN POSTS between his first post and his second post. THERE ARE SEVEN POSTS OF NEW CONTENT BETWEEN KoCs HIS FIRST POST AND SECOND POST. You make it sounds like there were 25 pages of content being posted and in the meantime KoCs was actively lurking. 7 fucking posts. I would like to sheep this only in a much more friendly, open and un-aggressive manner. The idea that he was following the thread long-term seemed quite made up and VE's approval of ur post was distingly | ||
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dunno how that got misspelt | ||
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I sure hope so as we have 4 players with 2 game posts or less and a bunch of people not playing terribly helpfully in general. | ||
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On August 12 2014 05:27 Damdred wrote: Then help us improve town a bit Sn0, what do you want to talk about? What questions do you want to ask? no u | ||
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I have issues with 4 people at 2 "in game" posts. I have issues with Koshi flipflopping between people without reasons etc. I have issues with MysteryMeat's only defense being "I'm lynchbait guys" I have issues with VE's general poor play and forced-feeling interactions with Koshi. I have issues with rayn's low contributions beyond extreme tunnel on 1v1 I can't fix those things. But I can sure whine about them. | ||
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On August 12 2014 06:11 onevone wrote: You didn't refute any of my points even though you called them untrue a bit earlier. It's a bit hard to take you seriously. And by the way, I have several reads, and you only have your tunnel on me (as an actual read that you have pursued otherwise than simply saying "X is Y".) listpost time then. Or even VE's "I'm willing to lynch into these ppl" post. watever. | ||
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On August 12 2014 06:18 onevone wrote: You could make a listpost of your own by looking at my filter, but here goes. Leaning towards town Mages kush Koshi Not sure atm batsnacks Damdred Haru Onegu rayn Sn0 VE Slight scumread MM1 KoC They're really quite weak though. Translation: I looked through my filter to make sure that my story makes sense but please don't hold me to scumreads even though I'm desperate to get my vote somewhere. Sure dude. That said ur posting lots which I can't complain about atm. | ||
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We were also scumbuddies at one point. | ||
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He's also really not posting that much. | ||
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Not that that was 100% from his side, but that whole spat felt really silly and not particularly town-town. | ||
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You are fortunate that 3 other people also haven't seen fit to do the wondrous thing known as "actually posting" more than twice. | ||
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##Vote: batsnacks I'll be back in 12ish hours. Lots of time for things to change but considering its majority lynch I like getting a vote out there *relatively* early | ||
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Koc's allowed to post questions, although it'd be nice if it was slightly more consolidated. | ||
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On August 12 2014 23:51 onevone wrote: Is there more or less than 7 hours until deadline? 7 hours and 5 mins to deadline also wow dis thread moving | ||
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snackbats continually refuses to contribute, opting to flame KoC for asking questions followed by voting him for the same thing. Then outright stating that he made no case on KoC but is voting him anyway and won't try to move the game forward in any other manner. A part of me thinks super-butthurt town after a bad last game but I don't know anything about last game and I'm lynching him unless things change. | ||
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I'll give you that he doesn't seem to have any desire to do anythign this game eiterh. | ||
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On August 13 2014 00:36 kushm4sta wrote: hey how about we don't talk about rayn's possible scummines right now, and we focus on actual d1 lynch targets. Apart from koshi incriminating himself with it yeah I agree. | ||
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I really see no reason to lynch haru over snackbats. Rayn u should know townies make idiot mistakes its what happened in OUR VERY FIRST GAME TOGETHER when u went super-ham mislynching WoS cuz u didn't see his point of view. | ||
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On August 13 2014 01:20 Mages wrote: I give my thoughts on who is scum and I get targeted. what encourages me to continue posting my thoughts? You barely have 3 scumreads to start with, you make no effort to engage your scumreads in conversation to determine their motivations, you do your best to foster suspicion of Damdred constantly without really attempting to make points against him, and you swap to snackbats without reasoning beyond "I had a change of heart" well lets hear why. | ||
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First up, first impressions: On August 11 2014 23:27 Mages wrote: [KoC is] playing very safe and might be good based on the most basic consideration and limited interaction. I say I get a town read off of him. On August 12 2014 00:32 Mages wrote: Right, even i gave an explanation as to why I thought Cat was townie. Damdred, what do you think about Haru? Alright that was ur first impression. The next time you mention anything with respect to Cats it's this: Which leads immediately to On August 12 2014 03:34 Mages wrote: Right, they should be at the same level until we get a read on him. Cats has had opportunity, so I guess that's what I'm going with, please feel free to change my mind. ##vote TheKingofCats Alright so... about that reasoning? Why are you voting for Cats? because he's "lynchable" without any reason for him being scum/antitown/anything? Please excuse us for not seeing anything that would indicate that you are town here (common town traits include "desire to lynch scum"). Please note that I made some very minor edits to the quotes above for readability purposes. They are still accurate. | ||
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snackbats is still easily the best lynch pending further developments. | ||
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On August 13 2014 01:50 raynpelikoneet wrote: NO KOSHI HE IS NOT TRYING TO FIND MAFIA! ugh.. this is annoying. Who the fuck in this thread is actually trying to find mafia though? like maybe 4 ppl | ||
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On August 13 2014 01:54 kushm4sta wrote: rayn i have to admit, I had got the same townie feels from the second sentence in that quote (not the first because that is retarded) U wanna lynch magers? | ||
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Because On August 13 2014 01:38 Sn0_Man wrote: , Alright dude here's ur ironclad reasoning for voting Cats. First up, first impressions: Alright that was ur first impression. The next time you mention anything with respect to Cats it's this: Which leads immediately to Alright so... about that reasoning? Why are you voting for Cats? because he's "lynchable" without any reason for him being scum/antitown/anything? Please excuse us for not seeing anything that would indicate that you are town here (common town traits include "desire to lynch scum"). Please note that I made some very minor edits to the quotes above for readability purposes. They are still accurate. Because haru looks like an idiot who tried something new and rayn is on one of those "this guy said something incorrect MUST BE SCUM" pushes that are super meaningless and also his favourite thing ever. | ||
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On August 12 2014 12:51 batsnacks wrote: Seems like everyone agrees with everything I've said about koc yet they still don't want me voting him. I have an hour at most left of consciousness before I won't be able to make substantial posts until the same time tomorrow night. Like I said earlier, my schools start next week. I have more work to do than is possible to finish in any realistic amount of time. I figured it was important to get a vote out in the open now while I have some time to talk about what's going on. koc looks bad to me. No one will answer those questions he asked, and if they do, nothing will ever come of them. If I were scum, koc's questions would be the first thing I'd want to respond to. That's how I feel, so I voted him, and so far no one has given me a good reason to unvote him. Bolded is a nice little contradiction. The two sentences are the exact opposite of each other. | ||
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On August 13 2014 02:19 kushm4sta wrote: sn0, can you explain the reasons behind why: snackbats is the best lynch, mages is the second best, and haru you dont want to lynch "probably", "dunno" On August 13 2014 02:27 kushm4sta wrote: We are talking about your reads. I have no idea why you are even bringing this up. Try reading ur own posts ty we are talking best lynches. I'm not that opposed to haru lynch I just need convincing and nothing u guys post makes me think he's scummier than snax/mages | ||
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On August 13 2014 02:34 batsnacks wrote: The Haru at the beginning of the thread and the Haru who has a notebook are like two completely different people. That leaves me wondering, if Haru is town, why didn't he start the game playing how he is playing now? He obviously thinks the way he is posting now is townier, otherwise why switch to this style? I'm probably going to switch my vote and sheep rayn for the rest of the day; he's right about me and that inspires confidence. I'm off work in about 8 hours so ill dialog with whoever is on then. I mean who plays the same at game start vs once there's info and reads out there? I mean you opened with "i have so many fans omg u should see my twitch inbox" I'm assuming we both agree you changed ur posting somewhat since that. U and haru both posted twice then ditched until the thread was REALLY going so how u try to nail him for that is beyond me. | ||
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On August 13 2014 03:14 Damdred wrote: Why the sudden change Onegu? There was still a chance fo someone going to bat and you seemed dead set on him? Wat happened to ur VE suspicions? | ||
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On August 13 2014 03:44 Koshi wrote: Either we believe this guy has a notebook and he is town. (Also terrible at writing in this notebook.) Or he is a liar. I think rayn is pretty convinced he's a liar based on the supposed contents of his oft-mentioned notebook | ||
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On August 13 2014 03:59 onevone wrote: Hahaha, thanks. This game has made me laugh so much already. I'd love to be proven wrong. Actions speak so much louder than words. | ||
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It means that I'm currently agreeing with rayn a lot and that koshi's looking... bad So I wanna see what he has to say for himself. what else is that supposed to mean? | ||
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I badly don't want to vote with VE and MM1 for example also why the fuck is VE comfortable voting with MM1 still his top scumread? but asdjl;fhal;sdkfjas;ldfk everythign sucks | ||
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On August 13 2014 04:06 raynpelikoneet wrote: I have not made a case on bats. I think he is town so get rekt koshi plz. he means ur towncase aka "wow this 1 sentence too townie omg" bullshit why's kush agree with u I hate everyhing | ||
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There are 2 factions in this game: Scum, and Town. Scum want to hide as they have inevitability with night kills. As long as they lynch town they are happy. They know who is scum and who is town, so they don't particularly work hard to figure out who is which. They play like you are, trying to pretend they are town. Town have urgency. They need to lynch scum asap or they LOSE. The only way they are happy is if they lynch scum, anything else is a problem. They care about one thing, and one thing only: Finding scum. They question others to determine their motives and alignment. They think critically about what is occuring. They attempt to bring new information to light in order to help their townmates find scum. They point out fallacies in others thinking. They do all these things that you refuse to do. so basically either ur scum or you refuse to play to your wincon. Playing the victim "Oh u guys just accuse me oh you guys can't decide on who to lynch oh woe is me" is NOT FUCKING HELPING TOWN so if we think ur scum for it its because YOUR PLAYING TO SCUM'S WINCON. So shape up or shut up. This isn't a personal attack. This is pointing out how you are playing and establishing why people think you are scum. If you continue to play the victim and fail to demonstrate a strong desire for town victory instead of hiding behind your own personal feelings then you will be lynched. | ||
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On August 13 2014 05:32 Mages wrote: I know that Damdred is wrong about me, and by extension he is wrong about Haruh. I mean u get an hour and a half to explain but this is indeed really really bad | ||
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wtb votecount plx I'm not going to cause a no-lynch over a haru lynch for example. | ||
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I'm really bored of hearing "vote haru if ur town" incessantly. | ||
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since actually editing posts in this subforum is forbidden for obvious reasons WHY R U VOTING CATS THO U SAID HE'S GREEN SJL:DKFHS:DLFKJSD | ||
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u still haven't expalined why u think haru's town apart from "damdred was wrong about me so must be wrong about him" which is awful | ||
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##Vote: Mages well this is obnoxious on a lot of levels regardless of outcome | ||
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At least, thats my memory of it | ||
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Posting an "OOPS EBWOP ##UNVOTE KOC" would get u by pretty ok most of the time. | ||
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How's rayn actually right 3/3 day 1 kill me | ||
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On August 13 2014 06:31 Koshi wrote: Mages. I am with you. This town is terrible. Seals | ||
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This is why ppl start in newbie mafias | ||
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There literally aren't enough people around to lynch mages I dont' think. | ||
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IF YOU ARE ONLINE VOTE MAGES HE SCUMCLAIMED | ||
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On August 13 2014 06:55 raynpelikoneet wrote: Keep a eye on Koshi! plz! relaxxxxxxxxx i got u i know ur scared of dying 2nite | ||
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snackbats has this thing where mages called him mega scummy but apart from that he's been scummy all game and nothing's changed since he was my preferred lynch candidate pre mages-concede. Onegu is playing hide and go seek or soem shit I'd have to read him. Which sounds boring. VE has a fucking medic claim to hide behind QQ other than that he's like actively being as anti-town as possible. | ||
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Would lynch. Rayn if we pretend we all followed with ur haru lynch he'd have flipped town then wat was the plan today | ||
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Specifically we already have a 1-shot cop and a vig and scum can probably do some power-role math (mages flipped goon right) then I find it reasonable to think that scum would take a risk on town not having a medic considering their poor position atm. It's not like VE's claim was an inherently townie type of claim since if it's true then scum virtually have to have an RB who can RB him out of the game, which he should know as town and not claim like a fuckwit. Actually the more I write the more I feel like VE's claim is more likely to come from scum than town. | ||
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Pls do things. Random comment without conclusions etc is no gud. | ||
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Thats an improvement so now go make real case on VE and vote or something. | ||
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On August 15 2014 02:26 batsnacks wrote: Koshi why does VE -know- there isn't a medic? whaddya mean? either he's the medic, or scum don't have enough power roles for there to be a medic or he's gambling all of which could be true | ||
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On August 15 2014 02:47 Koshi wrote: batsnacks. Comment about other things please. There is no way we will ever lynch VE over you. Speak for urself, but yes snackbats u need something better than sheeping my accusations of VE | ||
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On August 15 2014 03:05 batsnacks wrote: If VE were town, mafia would have cced medic Why? Explain this out for me in detail please. | ||
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"IF UR TOWN VOTE HARU" thx dude | ||
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On August 15 2014 04:00 raynpelikoneet wrote: One question sno. Do you think i am mafia? I don't know. I consider it possible. | ||
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Since u seem convinced it isn't u either, give us some thoughts. | ||
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Then edited to an Unvote when he realized his fuck-up Then Ragequit cuz he felt it was a slip and got warned for editing etc. | ||
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I know I'm a bit of a dreamer. | ||
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I'm happy to hear ur reasoning on things. Do you think the scumteam is now VE and Onegu? What reasoning do you have on Onegu BEYOND omgus because you look scummy enough for that not to be a reason. Just write me nice long posts filled with all your thoughts on the game so that I can read you  | ||
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Also that doesn't cover the other 7 people in the thread whom surely you have some thoughts on? Also "If you assume VE is Scum then he's Scum" isn't exactly ironclad proof and while I agree that his claim wasn't good, Koshi pointed out that he's made very bad claims before as town so it isn't proof of him being scum either. He does seem rather more interested in fighting with Koshi than in finding scum though. | ||
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On August 15 2014 22:51 kushm4sta wrote: I do expect scum to be demotivated in this game. That would make VE more likely to bet on a hail mary medic claim. Onegu is writing a lot still, showing effort which is pretty townie. Sn0's activity has dropped off, so that reinforces my scumread on him. On August 15 2014 22:59 HaruRH wrote: kill urselvesI agree with this. Their partner just suicided and the game's main scumread turns out to be vigi. then try reading any part of the thread ever | ||
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On August 15 2014 23:28 kushm4sta wrote: sn0 why are you pissed that im scumreading you lol? it's true that i haven't read the thread... well that would be why. ur doing it for no reason. also haru's reason for scumreading me is literally "well I thought that one person on mages would be scum so I arbitrarily decided that it was either 1v1 or sn0 for literally no reason and shot 1v1 and now that he's flipped town it must be Sn0" which is mildly off-putting considered he's the only setup-confirmed town in the thread and it's quite apparent that he wasn't born with a functioning brain. | ||
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On August 15 2014 23:39 Onegu wrote: I still town read you sn0, but tbh I am starting to look at kush. This isnt the same kush who was n1 killed in HW. He basicly is just saying reads on people with no basis. Don't forget there are only 2 scum left and both koshi and rayn hard-read kush as town from very early iirc. Which would mean that they'd have to be hella wrong for kush to be scum also my (probably bad) kush heuristic is that his scum play involves hard bussing from day 1 which aint happened yet. | ||
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On August 15 2014 23:59 kushm4sta wrote: Sn0, what if my suspicion was actually just a reaction test, one which you failed. Get mad, scum. meh i was mad at the thread doing my morning read through and u 2 morons stuck ur thick heads in and called me scum at the wrong moment so I complained. ur not smart enough to do reaction test bullshit so w/e hf with this. Ur just digging at me cuz ur enjoying my reactions now. @koshi yeah only how does mages list scum!batsnax as red and nobody else in his listpost? he's kinda pigeonholed into pushing batsnax d2 in that circumstance iunno. I guess bussing is real. | ||
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On August 16 2014 01:18 kushm4sta wrote: sn0 sorry for being a dick to you i guess? can you give your thoughts about who you want to lynch? cause you aren't voting anybody for some reason. The entire reason i was mad during my thread read-through was because none of the people that i wish to lynch have any desire to look townie. I want to lynch bsnax, 1gu, VE, and MM1 probably. With little to choose between them. bsnax i'm worried about his mages interactions, 1gu i dunno didn't seem the most scummy, VE has a medic claim, MM1 has meta of sucking ass. It's hard to decide who is likely to be scum vs who is playing like shit for no reason. But I'm also like really suspicious of Rayn I just don't think it makes sense to try and push him over those 4 right now. And I harbour lingering doubts about koshi and you too but w/e. Again, I don't feel like I can properly analyze or push active trying players without taking out the trash first, so to speak. I dunno I just wish that more people would be obvtown or something. | ||
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Like i'm really not suspicious of u/koshi but I'm not 100% on ur towniness. It makes more sense to focus on the first 4 over even looking too hard at you guys really. I could go for an MM1 lynch. Like I said, I don't see a lot to choose between the 4 and it kinda bothers me. | ||
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On August 16 2014 03:02 Koshi wrote: tldr: Onegu is town. Which leaves exactly u and bsnax as scum candidates according to ur list??? | ||
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Then there's this quote: On August 16 2014 03:06 Koshi wrote: I am willing to lynch these 2 people and go into lylo with all information I have now. Which indicates pre-knowledge that lynching bsnax + VE = Lylo. Which means Koshi knows they are town. Yes I know it could be much more innocent than that. And other minor things that I keep noticing, like the 1v1-Koshi interaction early. But I have so many doubts too. If Koshi's scum he can have max 1 scumbuddy. Why is he so hard defending 1gu and MM1 both? As scum he'd be looking for ez mislynches there and could easily get away with pushing whichever of them is town IMO. Plus he doesn't try to clear VE's name but he keeps indicating that VE's claim has merit, which he doesn't have to believe. He's handing out HARD townreads like candy too, which admittedly scum can do but koshi has shut himself off of SO MANY potential lynch pushes that it's hard to see scum doing that. Okay Koshi's probably town but these posts feel bullshit al;sdjkflasdjf. Maybe he's right and bsnax is scum? Hmmm 3.5 hrs to lynch I'll figure something out by then I hope | ||
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A lot of the MM1 discussion was super early and revolved around 1v1 who's dead and flipped town. He also didn't vote for mages although I don't consider that strong evidence. | ||
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batsnacks ( 6 ) - Onegu, Koshi, HaruRH, Sn0_Man, raynpelikoneet, kushm4sta MysteryMeat1 ( 2 ) - [b][green]TheKingOfTheCats, batsnacks Koshi ( 1 ) - VisceraEyes Everybody who didn't vote for batsnax has flipped or is named VE Rayn had ample opportunity to NOT vote for bsnax. lets lynch VE today this is exceedingly simple. ##Vote: VisceraEyes | ||
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@Koshi I wanted to lynch rayn super bad at the beginning of today reading ur post then I looked at the votes and rayn basically has had super lots of opportunity to (safely) ruin a lynch on scum twice in a row (both lynches were exactly the required amount of votes no spares) and didn't. I feel like he's town. | ||
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Like he popped back into the thread after being AFK for hours just to come to consensus and lynch bsnax. I get that his play is not at all what you expect from town rayn but there's no way he's dumb enough to throw away allies that he doesn't have to in a game where scum need 3? mislynches now (haven't mathed it lel 2 hard). @everybody else who is temporarily afk: You all know VE is scum just lynch him. The argument against kush sux ass as does the one vs rayn. | ||
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There's literally 1 living person who didn't vote bsnax. VE MUST be scum. Its actually trivial. | ||
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I admit it's not impossible but it seems SO MUCH LESS LIKELY than that the 6 living people who voted to lynch scum yesterday are town and the 1 living person who DIDN'T vote to lynch scum is probably scum himself. Keep it Simple, Stupid. Blue role shit is just WIFOM, I'll happily believe VE would make that choice as scum BECAUSE HE KNOWS U GUYS REACT LIKE THIS. | ||
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Although scum counterclaiming scum "confirms" one of them right? thats the kind of shit scum have to pull to win this game. Whatever. I maintain that VE is clearly scum but I'm also okay with kush lynch or i guess rayn lynch. It doesn't look like my vote makes any difference right now anyway but I'll be around all the way to lynch to make sure something happens. | ||
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On August 19 2014 01:11 kushm4sta wrote: 3 prs in a 13 person game is fucking ridinkitydonkulonk DATS Y VE IS LE SCUMMERONI | ||
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Watever I'd rather lynch kush over rayn today, and will be voting to that effect if necessary. I still think VE is last scum. I'm not terrible idiot look at VE's gameplay he does literally nothing all game, is literally the only living person who hasn't voted for scum whatsoever, and all he has is a claim that is pure WIFOM to hide behind. I think he's scum. | ||
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On August 19 2014 01:55 VisceraEyes wrote: Eh...I was AFK at GenCon, I could have just not submitted, etc etc. Whatever, you're right, I guess it's not COMPLETELY UNTHINKABLE to consider that I might take a gambit or that I'm mafia here. But occam's razor clearly suggests that I'm medic here given ALL the facts, so the point is moot. thats only occams razor if ur pretending this game doesn't include lynches and votes that are recorded for future informational purposes | ||
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I still think VE is most likely to be the last scummer but since I can't get backup I'd rather lynch kush over rayn today considering the votes. Which I think are what are telling: Who voted scum and who didn't  | ||
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I looked at who voted who and when and came to the conclusion that everybody was on board with lynching scum except one guy. Which, coincidentally, is how many scummers are left. Actions speak louder than words to me. | ||
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GG team we won amazing. Onegu's actually a slippery mofo as scum. | ||
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On August 24 2014 05:07 slOosh wrote: Post game analysis and such will be coming soon after. >_> <_<  | ||
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JK don't look it up until ur done analysis :3 School is far more important than mafia postgame analysis anyway. | ||
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