Neat & Tidy Mini Mafia

On August 11 2014 13:25 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:

Do you actually have an opinion on the case on MM?

On August 11 2014 21:29 Onegu wrote:
Oh man so happy to play with Rayn and Koshi again.

@kush. It's hot and still under martial law, but last week they took the machine gun carrying soldiers off of my street corner so at least that is something.




Not to much really. Haru vote is much odder in my book, this isn't his first game like he said, and a straight up sheep this early in the game gets my toes in a curl when he says he is new. Anyway I'll be back in a bit after my kids sleep.

Also I bought a new notebook for this game. Then my 2 .5 year old found it and decided to draw pictures in it.

Brb in a few.

On August 12 2014 17:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Haru's just joking around and not playing. As he does as scum. As town yes - he jokes - but he also plays.
mafia.

On August 12 2014 19:46 Koshi wrote:
You must be kidding me.

On August 12 2014 19:52 Koshi wrote:

I wanted to lynch 1v1 for lying. I always townread Snow through the game.


Why is there nothing from this in your reads? You call 1v1, VE and Koshi scum but in the quote above you are insinuating that some couples are scum together.

On August 12 2014 19:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Haru are tou around in 2hours? I can't decide if your posr is incredibly scummy or the other way around.....

On August 12 2014 08:36 Damdred wrote:
Jokes on you buddy my filter is already bigger than on day one than it was on day 6.

Your foolish post makes you seem happy to shift blame to someone else. Your third pick for scummy makes me think you will try to make me omgus but your scum.

On August 12 2014 08:59 Damdred wrote:
Believe me MM for great judgment come with me mages is scum.

Its a great day one we found one look at it. He claims he hates lynches on day one and then randomly puts his vot on cat.

Look at his reads he was so sure i was acting scummy but wouldn't committ to voteing me wanted someone else chase his meta read on me so he could br safe.

He called out kush for nonreasons and tried to shift more blame on VE when i mentioned dodging questions.

##vote mages

follow me trust me

On August 12 2014 19:44 HaruRH wrote:

3)Damndred/mages interaction feels out of place and feels forced. It almost feels like they are staging a show just to show that they interacted with one another. They used meta from unquotable/uncheckable sources that obviously shows that they are staging some sort of performance.

On August 12 2014 09:43 Damdred wrote:
Maybe its cause i have so much experience with how he plays. I feel he is scum for the reasons i posted ill give him time to post back though

On August 12 2014 07:46 Mages wrote:
Haha, 1v1, Glad I could do that : )

Three most, I stick by Cats & onegu as my original two as i had said i was on the fence with them and went with cats bc i have little more to go on, if i had to take a third, i guess Damdred too because i've modded games before for him on another site and his playstyle is currently very much of that which he adheres to when he's evil in my games. He's talking a lot, on my board he's far less talkative, and he hasn't really made any hard "This is what i want and this is why" accusations. I know you guys can't know that as you haven't seen that side of him, but that's what I believe. Course, this is only day one and i daren't accuse Damdred yet too because he could be good, just trying something new on this board. I know from him that last game he was the last mafia after like 2 others ragequit or something, and he was able to win - is his style in this one similar to that of the last one or different? if it's different from I'd wager that it MORE likely that he's on the side of good and that would deter my doubt in him.

But there they are, those are the three I'll stick by.

On August 12 2014 20:07 Koshi wrote:
Yeah, I noticed it as well. But I don't think it is scummy. It is somewhat strange but they know each other so we might be missing parts.

HaruRH about batsnacks. What did you mean with "nobody townreads him" is that good or bad or?

On August 12 2014 20:34 Damdred wrote:
Well morning all, a few thoughts to open up the day

1) Right now i'm leaning towards town on batsnacks because of his randomness in the way he plays though I do not like where his vote is right now as I think it's on a towny I don't think hes scum for that and the time I did play scum with him he went a bit more crazy hes closer to how he was in noir or close to it i'd like to see more out of him but I doubt we will before deadline today.

2) Why am I getting flack for being more aggressive than I have in the past? Kinda a bit of bull on that one.

3) Since haru has came back to the thread he feels a bit weirder to me

On August 12 2014 21:58 Koshi wrote:

Harurh, Show me where rayn reads batsnacks as scum.

On August 12 2014 01:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:

I do think attacking same easy targets other people attack is scummy. I mean, townies do that aswell. But the whole construction of the post does not say anything - all it does is it gives onevone all sorts of outs to back off from his reads later on.

On August 12 2014 03:45 VisceraEyes wrote:
So okay. These are the people I'd lynch into today:

MysteryMeat1, Onegu, KingofCats, batsnacks

I feel like the case on MM is the strongest, so that's where my vote is. But I feel like I'm going to have to move it because people are squeamish about lynching him based on his history of being D1 mislynched, so I'm going to look into alternatives.

On August 12 2014 22:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Here:

This does not make any sense because in the first part you basically say you think those guys could be scum together. Then you townread the other one and scumread the other. Which makes no sense at all that you wrote all those paragraphs.

I had not talked about a single thing about bats when you made your post. Or if i have show me where i say i think he is mafia? I have had a read on 5 people - none of them were bats. At that point I had said kush is town, Koshi is town, Onegu is town, Haru and 1v1 are scum.

Leaning scum: koshi (he has been the most wishy washy player till now)

Explain how because i don't see how either of these are anywhere near the truth. You can't just say something and not explain it. Sooner or later you have to, and now is later because this - to me - makes no sense at all.

Wrong (i know you already said you misread but still wrong).

That's pretty much everything you have said in this game except for your null reads.....

On August 12 2014 22:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Okay Haru is mafia because this does not make any sense at all.
Noone is stupid enough to not see i am talking about - and ONLY about - 1v1 here.
No chance.

On August 12 2014 22:45 Koshi wrote:

He just changed his story.

meh, I am not a fan of HaruRh but less a fan of batsnacks.

In some Universe I can see HaruRH being town and playing exactly like this.

On August 12 2014 22:50 Koshi wrote:

hmm? Aren't you the guy saying that he is unlynchable after D1 because you always look insanely town?

On August 12 2014 22:57 kushm4sta wrote:
rayn i'm interested in why you think haru is scum, because i don't quite get your case and haru looking pretty town to me

On August 12 2014 23:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:

He doesn't make any sense. Trust me on this.

On August 12 2014 23:20 Koshi wrote:

It's majority lynch. Are you planning to convince 6 other to vote with you?

On August 12 2014 23:43 Koshi wrote:

Then vote batsnacks. If you won't I will really consider changing votes to you.

On August 14 2014 07:13 batsnacks wrote:
Why would damdred shoot 1v1?

On August 14 2014 10:48 batsnacks wrote:


But yeah I'm still curious, why 1v1? He had the biggest filter. Don't people like to say that whoever has the biggest filter d1 is auto-town?

On August 14 2014 11:30 batsnacks wrote:


If you're town, everything you just said and can say about this game is a heuristic. Even after reading this post, I still don't feel like I understand why you picked 1v1. Did you realize you were targeting the person with the largest filter?

On August 14 2014 19:28 Koshi wrote:
Can somebody please explain why batsnacks is town?

1) Not solving the game, his recent contribution is attack confirmed town.
2) He gives irl excuses to not play. His kids have to go to school in a week. He needs to work. I have proven that in the 2 games he played before this one batsnacks posted during these times.
3) He is not batsnacks insane. In his towngames he is insane and prominent every time he posts. In his 1 scumgame he was very ghostly. Just like here.
4) Mages never pushed Batsnacks. He moved away from batsnacks to sit on KoC during primetime. Look at the votecount from marv I quoted.

How is this not enough?

On August 13 2014 07:39 slOosh wrote:

Final Day 1 Votecount

Mages ( 7 ) - raynpelikoneet, onevone, Sn0_Man, Koshi, Mysterymeat, HaruRH, Damdred
HaruRH ( 4 ) - VisceraEyes, kushm4sta, batsnacks, Onegu
batsnacks ( 1 ) - Mages
TheKingOfTheCats ( 1 ) - TheKingOfTheCats

Mages was lynched with 7 votes.

The Night will end in

On August 14 2014 20:09 Koshi wrote:

These are a lot of assumptions without basis bro.

On August 13 2014 07:39 slOosh wrote:

Final Day 1 Votecount

Mages ( 7 ) - raynpelikoneet, onevone, Sn0_Man, Koshi, Mysterymeat, HaruRH, Damdred
HaruRH ( 4 ) - VisceraEyes, kushm4sta, batsnacks, Onegu
batsnacks ( 1 ) - Mages
TheKingOfTheCats ( 1 ) - TheKingOfTheCats

Mages was lynched with 7 votes.

The Night will end in

On August 14 2014 23:21 Sn0_Man wrote:
wish haru shot himself

On August 15 2014 00:15 Sn0_Man wrote:
okay ur right maybe i dont but i did briefly

On August 15 2014 08:34 kushm4sta wrote:
batsnacks I see what you are saying, but I'm taking it to the next level.
It was obviously a fishy as hell claim so why would he claim it as scum?

Though, sometimes scum make really bad claims because they are playing the level game and they know in a way bad claims are even more believable. But that is pretty rare.

That's why I think it's safer to treat the claim as null.

On August 15 2014 09:08 kushm4sta wrote:
haru do you understand my reasoning why I tihnk mages cleared bat?

On August 14 2014 18:17 Koshi wrote:
It does not matter that Mages said he would push batsnacks right before he surrendered. That is null maybe a bit town.


The only thing that matters is that Mages in his 5 page filter tried to convince anybody that batsnacks is scum. HE NEVER EVER DID. Mages even never gave a reason to why batsnacks is scum, not 1 reason. Mages moved of batsnacks when the wagons were forming and went back to KoC. Mages only called batsnacks scum in his listpost when HaruRH was very likely to be lynched, but apart from putting batsnacks in his listpost there was 0 intention to put any attention on batsnacks. Attention was put on 1v1 not having a reason and other silly things.


Batsnacks is not in the clear.



Snowman is town.
MM1 is town.

On August 14 2014 08:55 kushm4sta wrote:
conclusions I make from looking at mages' filter:

koc is probably town.

Batsnacks is probably town. Mages wanted to lynch batsnacks over haru really badly. I don't think you can conclude anything about Haru's alignment from that, but why would scum try to move a split vote onto another scum? I think If batsnacks was scum, he would want to lynch haru.

On August 15 2014 22:51 kushm4sta wrote:
I do expect scum to be demotivated in this game.
That would make VE more likely to bet on a hail mary medic claim.
Onegu is writing a lot still, showing effort which is pretty townie.
Sn0's activity has dropped off, so that reinforces my scumread on him.

On August 15 2014 23:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Now i gotta go. I hope i can be back before the phase change but i doubt.
Let's kill MM1!! ftw!

On August 15 2014 23:19 Sn0_Man wrote:

kill urselves
then try reading any part of the thread ever

On August 16 2014 01:03 batsnacks wrote:
Everyone wants to talk about voting VE but no one wants to vote him. Another reason he is probably mafia.

Well now you all can vote him without the pressure of being first.

##unvote
##vote: VisceraEyes

On August 17 2014 13:30 Onegu wrote:



??? So he would make it 3 mislynchs instead of 2 on purpose?


Really doesn't make sense to me

On August 18 2014 22:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Plz don't be dumb. VE is not mafia. No sane mafia would no-kill because they would have to lynch one more dude in comparsion for killing. VE was already under suspicion for his non-playness and making 2 mislynches -> 3 mislynches would be an awful mafia play. VE is not awful.

On August 18 2014 22:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
HARU AND KOSHI STOP BEING IDIOTS! NO! NO NO!

On August 19 2014 01:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Sn0 VE has unfortunately been useless as shit in the past games.
Like a couple games ago he didn't vote in LYLO...

On August 19 2014 01:28 VisceraEyes wrote:
I agree with that Haru except I'm not sure if anyone alive just "no-shot" this day - it's like, if they wanted me to be a question mark then why would they no-shoot? Doesn't killing someone achieve that? And if "?" is their goal, wouldn't killing someone cause even MORE doubt on me?

I think it's just more likely that I saved Koshi, but that's just from an objective standpoint - even if they can get a lynch on me, anyone who pushes it looks like shit when I flip. I think they thought I wouldn't save Koshi and that they WERE implicating me by shooting someone I wasn't saving.

On August 19 2014 01:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
VE's most obvious save was Haru. That's why any other shot than Haru makes sense. That's why the save makes sense (while the target was terrible because if Haru gets killed VE is auto-lynched).

On August 19 2014 01:34 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm just saying I'm not sure anyone in the game like, doesn't want to kill someone, you know? Presumably with only one left, that's a lot of fucking lynches.

But I can see a no-shot too I guess. I just don't know who does it. Koshi is the only one I think, because he "KNEW" that I'd save him last night or something Koshiesque.

On August 17 2014 07:30 kushm4sta wrote:
if ve was scum he also would have nked.
so I dont see how this nk proves anything. actually I think it makes it more likely for ve to be scum, because if he was really doctor he would have probably missed.

On August 17 2014 11:09 kushm4sta wrote:
if i was scum and I knew there was a medic I would never in a million quadrillion years shoot koshi.

VE you are saying scum thought you were holding a grudge against koshi because he scumread you, and so you wouldn't protect him, and then they based their nk on that? that is ridic

On August 19 2014 01:40 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like, yeah, and I get it. That's mafia's only course really if they want to lynch me and not kill me in the night, which I'm pretty sure no matter who is mafia, they're not night-killing me SPECIFICALLY because town is just not thinking. But as you said, that was pretty much everyone's FIRST thought right? Didn't you JUST say that? So why does that make Kush scum here?

I'm not trying to argue against Kush lynch btw, I just want to clearly understand your point.

On August 19 2014 01:10 kushm4sta wrote:


eh i don't buy this.

why would scum try to counterclaim a townie right before they die?? it's not going to save them. it's going to make the townie look townier after they die.
IMO it looked like a calculated move to make VE look more townie.
Chances are there isn't a doctor, because 3 prs in a 13 person game is fucking ridonkulonk. So batsnacks does some obvious fake claim to make the other claim look townier.
See what I'm saying?

On August 20 2014 21:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Good luck trying to convince Onegu to vote for himself.

On August 20 2014 21:48 Koshi wrote:
I did fucking everything right this game HaruRH. I saved you from rayn, I pushed batsnacks, I fucking knew Kush was a bad lynch, I have the biggest filter, I pushed this game forward to the right direction so many times.


How the fuck do you dare to spit in my face and side up with MY scumread, somebody who has been wrong all the game. You have done fucking no analysis this game. It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are.

But still you do your own fucking thing and refuse to listen to people who are actually playing this game and are nailing this game.

You have done fucking no analysis this game. It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are. 

On August 20 2014 22:14 Koshi wrote:


HaruRH. I typed an entire case on rayn. Twice now.

You ignored my case.

Why am I not worthy to be replied to?

But when rayn martyrs and votes to most obvious town in the game that hasn't got the luck to roll blue, you come to his rescue and beg him to lynch my townread?

Why am I so below you that you can just ignore any work I put in this thread?

On August 21 2014 08:20 Koshi wrote:
HaruRH,

So I know I fucking pissed you off. I am sorry for it but maybe because of that I am getting lynched lol. I also still think you meant to vote VE as a throwaway vote or something. But I really would like you to lynch rayn over me and not vote with VE. Obviously I say this as both alignments but like... I really do play different than in the team melee game right?

Please look past my dumbness and consider lynching rayn.

If it is a big no, still attempt to play the game tomorrow

Thx
Sad Koshi

On July 25 2014 10:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i don't have the patience to look over what koshi says. i just don't.
make a case koshi if you think i am mafia. don't just quote some shit.

On August 21 2014 17:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So why exactly do you have me as scum?
Tonight i read your case against me and if it contains stuff from D1 or D2 you are mafia because if that is the case you are accusing me for same things that you read me town for earlier.

On August 20 2014 10:28 HaruRH wrote:
I bet my fucking game its onegu.

##Vote: Onegu

On August 20 2014 21:45 Koshi wrote:

STOP TROWING THIS GAME.

Tell me why VE is town.
Tell me why Onegu is scum.

WHY CAN'T YOU DO ANYTHING THIS GAME. It's fucking pathetic.

On August 24 2014 15:33 Hapahauli wrote:
Man everyone is so angry.

On August 20 2014 21:48 Koshi wrote:
I did fucking everything right this game HaruRH. I saved you from rayn, I pushed batsnacks, I fucking knew Kush was a bad lynch, I have the biggest filter, I pushed this game forward to the right direction so many times.


How the fuck do you dare to spit in my face and side up with MY scumread, somebody who has been wrong all the game. You have done fucking no analysis this game. It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are.

But still you do your own fucking thing and refuse to listen to people who are actually playing this game and are nailing this game.

On August 24 2014 23:41 Onegu wrote:
GG. I blame Mages, hope he guts permaban and never touches our site again. Somehow me and bats didnt believe VE's claim, and whats funny is if I was RB and bats goon and 2 goon flipped I think VE would have been much easier lynch. I shouldnt have shot last night or at least shot at haru, just didnt think haru would be so stubborn to just come in thread post "onegus scum see you at deadline"

On August 27 2014 06:57 slOosh wrote:

My bad, academic year just started and other excuses (diablo II is supes fun)

Let's put some pressure on me haha

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