Neat & Tidy Mini Mafia - Page 4

On August 12 2014 18:12 Onegu wrote:
Also 1v1 his defense of himself and his vote on MM1 seemed really stubborn and like he refused to back off even when it was showed what holes were in it.

On August 12 2014 11:16 batsnacks wrote:


I'm caught up. I don't really care how many minutes apart his quad post was. I think his questions show a "this is what I -can- comment on" mindset. Not a "this is what I -should be- commenting on" mindset. Even if people do respond to those questions, the responses will be really spread out, nothing is going to get done. They are questions for the sake of questions. He even said "I don't know if these have been asked already." He could have just written the questions down, waited until he finished reading, and then ask them all at once if they had in fact not been answered.

You think mages is mafia; I think it's great that you've reached such a strong conviction so quickly, I've never seen you this confident about a read before. From my perspective though, his responses to your inquiries didn't seem weird.

I don't really have any questions. If there was anything specifically you want to know about I'll be happy to share my thoughts. Right now they're kind of scattered but I do like where my vote is at.

On August 12 2014 11:36 batsnacks wrote:


I liked kush's roleplay comments those made me smile which, posts that make me smile make me think town. I also like that he had the opportunity to vote me but elected to wait and give me a chance to post a little first.

I think you and mages post really similar. He reads just like you did in your first few games. You both write like you're sharing your inner dialogue in the moment, if that makes sense. I can definitely see how you guys have played/came from the same place before. It's hard to form an opinion on him. I got punished last game for giving you a free ride, and I don't want to make that mistake again by giving someone who posts like you a free ride, but at the same time it makes me want to give him a good chance.

I don't know what Haru is doing I've played with him a few times before but I've never seen him do anything like this. Gut tells me scum haru, or scum anyone, wouldn't act like this, but that doesn't mean I approve of the weird behavior.

On August 12 2014 12:51 batsnacks wrote:


Seems like everyone agrees with everything I've said about koc yet they still don't want me voting him. I have an hour at most left of consciousness before I won't be able to make substantial posts until the same time tomorrow night. Like I said earlier, my schools start next week. I have more work to do than is possible to finish in any realistic amount of time. I figured it was important to get a vote out in the open now while I have some time to talk about what's going on. koc looks bad to me. No one will answer those questions he asked, and if they do, nothing will ever come of them. If I were scum, koc's questions would be the first thing I'd want to respond to. That's how I feel, so I voted him, and so far no one has given me a good reason to unvote him.

On August 12 2014 18:40 Onegu wrote:



Like this post here he admits is vote is weak but not moveing it. I just dont understand him here. MM1 wasnt his only scum read at the time iirc, and when the holes in his case were shone and he admits the read is weak, why keep going at it at that point, I dont understand it.

On August 12 2014 19:49 HaruRH wrote:


from my preliminary read with what I wrote down in my notebook that I copied off onegu's idea because I thought that was a good idea.

I circled (koshi townreads sn0, changes to wanting to lynch him for lying, then changes to liking him) in my notebook.

1)MM1 called 1v1 town, but 1v1 called MM1 scum. It is almost like they chose to talk about each other just so that they have content about one another.
2)batsnacks is universally scumread by everyone (sn0,rayn,koshi,kush). Nobody have townread bat so far.
3)Damndred/mages interaction feels out of place and feels forced. It almost feels like they are staging a show just to show that they interacted with one another. They used meta from unquotable/uncheckable sources that obviously shows that they are staging some sort of performance.

On August 12 2014 19:55 Mages wrote:
I mean really, my thing with damdred, i was told to give three people i'm most suspicious of. I was put on the spot and I'm inherently suspicious of Damdred because where i come from its me him and one other that's the 'maifa superpowers'. I always have to be suspicious of him or I die, plain as that. What other questions do you guys have about it?

On August 12 2014 19:51 onevone wrote:


Not really. There are some things that really make me lean town, like his super careless opening posts and openly asking who he should sheep. All of that serves no purpose as scum, in fact it's harmful to his survival, but I could certainly see town posting like that. I also pretty much agree that KoC posting a hundred questions isn't really helpful while appearing to be contributive (especially since some of the questions were repeated questions from earlier).

He hasn't really done anything besides that though.

I'm caught up. I don't really care how many minutes apart his quad post was. I think his questions show a "this is what I -can- comment on" mindset. Not a "this is what I -should be- commenting on" mindset. Even if people do respond to those questions, the responses will be really spread out, nothing is going to get done. They are questions for the sake of questions. He even said "I don't know if these have been asked already." He could have just written the questions down, waited until he finished reading, and then ask them all at once if they had in fact not been answered.

On August 12 2014 20:14 onevone wrote:


Well, it could be that I'm overthinking stuff, but as I said, I don't think I've ever seen scum open in a way that brings them no benefits and only gathers negative attention. Perhaps batsnacks is just an extremely lazy scum and doesn't care about his appearance... but I prefer to believe that it's more of a townie attitude, I guess.

Could you make your towncase on KoC? Since it also affects how to read batsnacks a bit. (If KoC turns out to be town, it makes batsnacks look a bit worse)

On August 12 2014 19:44 HaruRH wrote:
2)batsnacks is universally scumread by everyone (sn0,rayn,koshi,kush). Nobody have townread bat so far.

On August 12 2014 22:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Yeah, after Haru said i called bats mafia.....
You too, why are you not reading the thread?

On August 12 2014 22:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I mostly do not like onevone's read on me, which apparently does not exist but he repeatedly feels the need to tell he does not read me town and that i might be scum. Koshi do you feel like he has been trying to figure out my alignment?

On August 12 2014 22:10 onevone wrote:
You should read too, rayn. I didn't say that you called batsnacks scum. Just that you don't townread him unlike you do most other players, which makes him a potential lynch candidate to you by process of elimination. At least logically. Thus "not exactly a scumread but close to it".

On August 12 2014 22:11 HaruRH wrote:


You guys need to show me where I wrote down mistakes, I am literally copying everything in my notebook, which is what I written down after going through the thread once.

2)batsnacks is universally scumread by everyone (sn0,rayn,koshi,kush). Nobody have townread bat so far.

On August 12 2014 22:16 onevone wrote:
Huh, that's true. Then I admit my mistake. However, that's the only "lie" I made yet, Koshi, so you should stop saying that already.

TheKingOfTheCats was clearly following the thread for several hours and keeping up with the events

It's called pressure and also "beggars can't be choosers" Would you rather still be talking about Avatar.. I prefer to talk about potential scum.

On August 12 2014 22:20 onevone wrote:
(Dunno why mentioning rayn there makes him scum still)

On August 12 2014 22:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Because it is a proof that he is either not reading the thread prpperly which is a scum trait or he has some idea from my posting why i think bats is mafia which - if true - makes him more likely town.

Koshi could you be Will Smith and go read KoC's past town games just to see if there is any game where he just asks questions and doesn't do shit.

On August 12 2014 20:53 Koshi wrote:

I somewhere want him to post a bit more before I really townread him. Just read this town game and compare it to this scum game. I think it gives him space till D2.

On August 12 2014 22:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Koshi i don't totes agree with you. In his town game he actually reaches to some conclusions. In his scumgame he doesn't. He talks about irrelevant stuff. While you are right in that he asks way more questions in his town game i don't see how this looks like his town game at all (because the questions are dumb - not thought out - and there are zero conclusions at all).